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evanski
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posted October 28, 2010 09:45 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for evanski     Edit/Delete Message
Diandra, your North Node is on my South Node

I have no planets in 12th.
12th cusp is in Taurus, ruler Venus is in 9th (or 10th in equal house).

Asteroids in 12th ...

Eureka
Goethe
Sibelius
Chambers
Bede
Amor
Hephaistos
Cava
Midas
Camelot
Daphne
Photographica
Urda
Parsifal
Ywain
Cerberus
Jason
Doris
Aquamarine
Parvati
Auckland (my birthplace)
Genevieve
Varuna
Arcadia
Louise
Samadhi
Lumen

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Mblake81
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posted October 28, 2010 11:32 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mblake81     Edit/Delete Message
Moon in the Twelfth House 12th hs
Moon in Virgo
Sun Square Moon
Moon Square Uranus
Moon Trine Venus

Mars in the Twelfth House 12th hs
Mars in Virgo
Mars Conjunct Ascendant
Mars Square Midheaven
Mars Square Neptune
Venus Trine Mars
Mercury Sextile Mars

on a different subject but related to the 12th house, my neptune.

Neptune in the Fourth House 4th hsNeptune in Sagittarius
Neptune Opposition Midheaven
Mars Square Neptune
Neptune Square Ascendant
Jupiter Sextile Neptune
Saturn Sextile Neptune
Neptune Sextile Pluto

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DD
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posted October 28, 2010 12:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DD     Edit/Delete Message
Yes, I definitely think we met there, Diandra.

I was member of a coven of Druids, at least in one of my lifetimes there.

HEKATE, RUDRA (8 Virgo) conjunct LILITH (6 Virgo) conjunct (AKASHI) (3-4 Virgo)

(around my 10th house cups per equal houses)


trine Venus on 6 Cap, ISIS (8 Cap), OSIRIS (7 Cap), GUINEVERE; SPIRIT (10 Cap)

(around my 2nd house cusp)

trine LUCIFER on 6 Taurus

(one degree off my 6th house cusp, still in 5th)

square Mars, IRELAND (5 Sag), ASC, Angel, Lust, Poseidon, Wisdom (7 Sag), ATLANTIS (8 Sag)


opposing ISHTAR, HORUS (8 Pisces), PHOLUS (6 Pisces), ECHNATON (7 Pisces) and CERES on 9 Pisces,

(on my 4th house cusp)

Also,

AKASHI on 3 Virgo
(9th house)

trine

VESTA, KNIGHT, STONEHENGE (all on 1 Cap), TRISTAN, BODA (3 Cap), CHALDAEA (4 Cap) GILGAMESH (0 Cap)

(1st house)

trine

SEMIRAMIS and TELEPHUS (0 Taurus), which opposes UNION and Uranus on 29 Libra and 1 Scorpio

(5th house - 11th house)
BTW what is the number for Pyramid?


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DD
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posted October 28, 2010 12:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DD     Edit/Delete Message
Diandra,

your Amenhotep opposes my Nofretete on 25 Sag.
And trines my Nefertiti on 27 Aquarius.
Your Caesar opposes my Caesar - Kleopatra-conjunction on 26 and 23 SAg.

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DiandraReborn25
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posted October 28, 2010 12:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DiandraReborn25     Edit/Delete Message
sorry DD it wasnt piramids buut Pyramus 14871.

certainly it was DD! look that my sun/estrela/nofretiti/apollo/klios and magion there cj your virgo stellium!

and your venuus/isis/osiris/guinevere cj my IC6cap and pallas.

DD..

we met in egypth too!im prone to think i was a seer then.

Evanski

really?perhaps we met too!:P

Mblake

perhaps in this lifetime your emotions and combative energies are somehwat hidden from others?and asteroids?do you have any there?they are the ones who can mostly hint torwards who we were in a past life.

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DD
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posted October 28, 2010 12:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DD     Edit/Delete Message
Ah, I see.
But Pyramus doesn`t have anything to do with the pyramids, he was the ancient "Romeo" (from Ovid`s metamorphosis "Pyramus and Thisbe")


Anyway,

yeah probably we met in Egypt, too, though I don´t have any strong distincts recalls or "hunches" about Egypt.

It`s different than with Sumeria, Atlantis, England /IReland, ancient Rome or Samarkand (actually I have a VERY strong resonance with Samarkand)

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posted October 28, 2010 12:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DiandraReborn25     Edit/Delete Message
awww i was mistaken cause when seeing the chart it only appeared "pyram" and i instantaneously thought it was pyramiths ahahah

you dont know how many asteroids i saw today...a bunch of them i was already with my eyes switched.

well sometimes i dream about Egypth very vividly.and IQ confirmed me too i was there with John more than one time so...

Ancient Rome - i never had any dream about it,but somehow i know i was there..im dranw to everything that has to do with it.whacthed all related to it and loved the series Rome.!

Sumeria well...you remember our thread that we also put some images there...it was really that beautiful..those gardens...

Atlantis,,never had dreams or recalls but through research,me and IQ saw probably that me and John whitnessed some major catastrophy...

well then,Lexx lexigramed my name and i was most of the times a woman that was a SEER,both in sumeria,and in egypth,related to RA,ISIS,OSIRIS.and also im LEMURIA,as an astro muse..

im also drawn to all that pertainss camelot,avalon and the Morgan le Fay story.

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venus in gemini
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posted October 29, 2010 08:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for venus in gemini     Edit/Delete Message
This is copied from "Cosmic Karma, Understanding Your Contract with the Universe".

I am retyping these from the book, so I will add them as I type them.


Pluto in the 12th

You can’t help but seek to expand your personal awareness and develop your subconscious abilities. You’ve chose to become a more powerful soul in this lifetime because you’ve agreed to regenerate and heal those painful emotional experiences and traumatic psychological events that kept you and your soul confined for lifetimes. That is why this 12th house Pluto insists that you now protect yourself and rehabilitate others by uncovering the unconscious secrets, examining the emotional afflictions, and understanding the psychological weaknesses that traumatized you in the past. And threaten the rest of us every day. Your compassion for the week must include therapy for the soul. Your new beginnings depend on being able to heal our emotional lives by examining your eternal one. In this Pluto house, forgiveness if power.

Transformation triggers: The powerful secrets, desires and resentments you unconsciously bury to protect yourself and cleverly uncover to destroy us.

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posted October 29, 2010 08:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Benedict Moon*     Edit/Delete Message
Saturn (Chart Ruler), Uranus, Neptune, and a couple of asteroids in the 12th. Fun, fun, fun!

I have Sag on the 12th house cusp too, which if I recall, Marguerite had said it was a very visionary-ish placement to have. Great for insight.

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posted October 29, 2010 08:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for venus in gemini     Edit/Delete Message
Saturn in the 12th house

Your soul’s karmic lesson in this lifetime is emotional wholeness, which means your crippling insecurities, heavy responsibilities, and severe limitations will always be experienced in those areas of life that are fundamental to healing the unconscious past. In general, this would be the psychological strength, emotional health and eternal soul areas of life - in particular, your spiritual life.

This is why you were forced to cope with some type of profound loss or emotional sacrifice in your formative years, such as a father who faded from your life at an early age, a rejecting parent who failed to respond to your basic emotional needs, or an unhealthy upbringing that lacked the authority, stability or protection you needed to feel safe. This is the karmic classroom of “childhood lost,” the Saturn house where being made to feel either physically, mentally, or emotionally abandoned when you were younger is the mandatory burden of hopelessness for getting in. Being instilled with a profound sense of guilt and unworthiness because of it is the only real hope you have of ever getting out.

There’s really no better motivation for seeking to become part of something that is greater than yourself and committed to a higher cause than harboring an irrational belief that you’ll only be left alone to fend for yourself by anyone lesser who isn’t. No wonder your emotional suffering was necessary back then. This Saturn was teaching you how to develop the unconditional faith, creative imagination, and psychological strength you needed to achieve your divine objective today: forgiveness. With a 12th house Saturn, it’s now your karmic responsibility to provide compassion to those people who need it most. This, according to the cosmos, is really just a matter of forgiving all the people that you think deserve it the least. So let go of them and your past, because even though you and your soul are destined to bask in the glory of spiritual success for the rest of eternity, it won’t be before you’ve spent at least 29 ½ years on this planet earning it.

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posted October 29, 2010 09:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for venus in gemini     Edit/Delete Message
Neptune in the 12th house

Universal Payback: Your Eternal Life

With natal Neptune placed here in the private sanctuary of the soul, this karmic debt appears to be the result of a previous lifetime in which the subliminal escapes of unconditional faith, creative imagination, and the unconscious past were severely abused and/or carelessly neglected. It seems those who relied on your emotional support suffered severely when you fell victim to your own self-inflicted isolation, guilt, or martyrdom after being overwhelmed by the harsh realities of life. No wonder yesterday’s self-imposed confinement evokes today’s deep-seated loneliness. Although you’re often undermined by an extreme vulnerability to drugs, allergies, and alcohol, your karmic payback in the here and now requires providing the real victims of the world with the compassionate support they truly deserve and the psychological rehabilitation they so desperately need. If not, expect a painful loss in the areas of life that contribute to your own. In particular, any of your own experiences with soul, faith, spirituality, religion, mental health, addictions, dependencies, illegal activities, institutions, prisons/hospitals, secrets, the unconscious past, karma/past lives.

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posted October 29, 2010 09:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Benedict Moon*     Edit/Delete Message
Wow, how fitting! Thanks! Saturn in the 12th is just the ball and chain that holds me back from everything else.


*EDIT* Ooooo, neptune/12th house description was interesting too. Karmic brownie points seem to be about helping out the collective. I hope working in a hospital counts (on nightshift, mind you). Everytime I'm around lots of people, I feel the need to retreat and recharge my batteries. It must be the stress of too much energy.

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posted October 30, 2010 01:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for venus in gemini     Edit/Delete Message
Sun in the 12th house

With the Sun positioned in the 12th house of your natal chart, you have agreed to apply the hard-earned expertise of your Sun sign to the divine sacrifice of emotional service to others. This means that you must now use the power of your solar degree to universally elevate your own immortal spirit by compassionately rehabilitating ours. Talk about higher callings. Evidently, this is one lifetime that should come with a halo, not just because your soul is cosmically committed to providing others with the deep sense of emotional fulfillment they deserve, but because you’re the one who must selflessly supply them with the strong sense of psychological well-being that they need. This is really no mortal task when you must first overcome your own childhood sense of guilt, loss, or shame before you do it. Is it any wonder that you’re so influenced by the past?

With your Sun committed to the secrets, sorrows and self-undoing of the 12th house, apparently you were born to heal it, and us. This is why you will always intuitively connect and indiscriminately merge with anything that appears to be familiar, seems to be suffering, or needs to be rescued. It’s what you do, and why you shine with inspired results whenever we don’t. That is, until you decide to use your wellspring of unlimited empathy and therapeutic special effects for something other than relieving our pain - like enabling it, or worse, escaping your own. That is usually when you stop impressing us as the brilliant power behind the throne and start annoying us as the neurotic martyr behind the scenes, while alienating us as you become your own worst enemy in the end. After all, your soul promised to use all that unconditional love, abstract awareness, and psychic insight to help us through our deepest fears and our darkest nights, not create them, and to awaken our spirit and brighten our tomorrows, not overwhelm them. It’s really no coincidence that you were born just as the Sun was breaking over the eastern horizon and into our conscious awareness. This is the time of day when all human beings unconsciously accept enlightenment by instinctively opening their eyes to the brilliance of a higher power. Which, according to the cosmos, is supposed to be you.

Your Lazy Sun Syndrome complaints: “They have no right to keep secrets”; “I have every right to my privacy.”

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posted October 30, 2010 02:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Redstar     Edit/Delete Message
12th in Libra contains:

Pluto 29.14 Lib Rx (chart ruler)
Hygea 2.41 Sco Rx
Giza 3.17 Sco Rx
Anubis 4.00 Sco Rx
Saturn 4.05 Sco Rx
Babylon 6.25 Sco Rx
Reiki 7.21 Sco Rx

Must've done something naughty back in the days to get that.

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Ami Anne
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posted October 30, 2010 02:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message
I have Neptune in the 12th house. I have ,always,been afraid of drugs and alcohol cuz I knew, subconsciously, that I could get addicted.

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Pluto conjunct Dejanira, Girlfriend.

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posted October 30, 2010 02:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Redstar     Edit/Delete Message
Ami how do you feel about water?
or great bodies of water, or being in open water, such as on a boat?

My brother has the same placement and swears he drowned in his past life.

He loves swimming in this one, but is always slightly uneasy when he first gets into the water, especially in open ocean type setting.

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posted October 30, 2010 02:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Benedict Moon*     Edit/Delete Message
I have Neptune in the 12th and I've had many dreams about drowning. I like going to the beach, but big bodies of water (especially THAT big) make me feel terribly unsecure. Its just that you have no idea what could be IN there.

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posted October 30, 2010 02:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Benedict Moon*     Edit/Delete Message
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posted October 30, 2010 02:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Redstar     Edit/Delete Message
Hey BM and thank you for your reply

I have read that it can be an indicator of a possible drowning, amongst many other things.

Interesting to know that you get dreams related to that too.
How is your neptune aspected?

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posted October 30, 2010 02:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for starkiss1     Edit/Delete Message
Karma Aqua 22'53 12th.
I like Aquas. Might be a rising one myself.

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posted October 30, 2010 02:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for starkiss1     Edit/Delete Message
Karma Aqua 22'53 12th.
I like Aquas. Might be a rising one myself.

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posted October 30, 2010 02:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Benedict Moon*     Edit/Delete Message
My Neptune aspects the most important planets in my Chart (very strong). It...

-Opposes my Mercury
-Trines my Moon
-Sextiles my Pluto

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posted October 30, 2010 02:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for seeleah     Edit/Delete Message
thanks gemini in venus!

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Ami Anne
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posted October 30, 2010 02:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message
Hi Redstar
I have a Cancer moon. They say you don't drown with a Cancer moon lol
I don't like large bodies of water but I like to swim in pools

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