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Topic: What's in Your 12th House?
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venus in gemini Knowflake Posts: 819 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted October 24, 2010 04:35 PM
Well, I have to admit this up front, that I have never truly looked at my 12th house. It was easy to pass right over, because there are no “planets” sitting there. All I ever acknowledged was that Scorpio was on the 12th house cusp. I guess I wasn’t ready to actually look at my 12th house until now. After listening to Marguerite Manning on her Blog Talk Radio program about Past Life Karma, I thought I would finally take a look at my 12th house, to see what was buried there. The first thing she looks at is the cusp. What’s on the cusp of your 12th house? That tells her a lot, right there. And of course, I have Scorpio on my cusp. Deep, dark, swamp thing Scorpio. I should have stopped right there. But no, I am only happy when I am digging down deep, looking for the truth, looking for the dirt. Thank you 8th House Sun for that. I am never happy with just the surface dirt, I have to find “all” the dirt. So I innocently start adding asteroids to my chart, just to add a little flavor to my empty 12th house. (And at this point, I want to give a big shout out to IQ, who taught me about asteroids and their importance. Trust me on this. I have been on that band-wagon for a couple of years now. ) So let’s see....what do I have in the 12th, as far as asteroids go? I thought I would start with the love and sex asteroids. (Oh, there goes my 8th house again...Sex, death and other people’s money!) And I found: Lust Sappho Salome Bacchus Adonis Nymph As well as Arthur, Lancelot, Medea, Soma, and Manu. I had to look up Manu. According to Hindu tradition, he was the progenitor of Mankind, the first king to rule the earth. You have to look at asteroids in your chart for the myth and the archetype they carry. So with Manu there, as the progenitor of Mankind, well, I guess he was pretty “busy” too. But anyway, when I first saw those asteroids, I thought, "Hmmm, 12th house. I sort of keep those hidden". They are in my closet. With Saturn in my 1st, what I show to the world is a little more serious. You don’t get to see my Nymph until I know you better. But then I looked at my South Node. My South Node is in the 5th house, in Aries, conjunct Mars. I have also seen quite a few of my past lives, so I do know that I was a kick ass kind of guy. A very strong warrior type. But I neglected to look at the rest of the story. The 5th house is love, children, the ability to produce, creativity, and pleasure. And that is when it hit me! Oh man, with those asteroids sitting in my 12th, I was a hedonist! I was one of those guys who was strong and powerful, and women fell at my feet. And I did what men typically do. I did lots of it. So in this incarnation, with my North Node in Libra, I am learning to play nicely with other children, and be much more considerate of other people’s feelings. I am learning how to live in peace and harmony. I am learning how to find inner peace and equilibrium. I am learning that love is a bigger concept than just passion. So, tell me what is in your 12th house? And more importantly, does it resonate with your south node, as to who you were in a past life? Does it trigger anything for you? If you haven’t been shown any of your past lives, this is a great way to see who you were, and what you did. The 12th gives you some great clues. IP: Logged |
belgz Knowflake Posts: 2473 From: Planet love :) Registered: Apr 2009
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posted October 24, 2010 04:42 PM
My 12th house ruler is the sun and it is placed up in the 10th house conjunct my chart ruler mercury.I have Venus in Leo conjunct part of fortune in there and surely that must mean positive karma right ? Lol Venus makes a sextile to: north node moon (11HR) MC Saturn (5HR) Pluto (2HR) It is trine:
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Lara Knowflake Posts: 4848 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted October 24, 2010 04:57 PM
Jupiter! Cj AC Actually Jupiter aspects my moon, Venus, mars, Saturn, Uranus, Pluto, Neptune too. IP: Logged |
katatonic Knowflake Posts: 5510 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted October 24, 2010 05:06 PM
snap lara, i have 12th house jupiter too, retro in capricorn (which is on the cusp too). it is WIDELY conj the ascendant, a little closer to trine venus, and trine my IC/akash/viviane by 0-2 degs.saturn, 12th ruler, is in 7th (unless you use equal houses!) in virgo; this is also chart co-ruler with uranus (to which it is sextile) in 5th. i don't recall finding any asteroids in house 12 though! lotsa connections to other things though obviously. IP: Logged |
puppet04 Knowflake Posts: 124 From: usa Registered: Aug 2010
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posted October 24, 2010 05:07 PM
karma, vesta are both there in aqua don't know what that means any ideaS?thanksIP: Logged |
seeleah Knowflake Posts: 352 From: kokomo, IN, USA Registered: Dec 2009
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posted October 24, 2010 05:14 PM
sun in 12th and nessus both in cancer.. thoughts?
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CrazyAquarian Knowflake Posts: 493 From: US Registered: Jan 2010
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posted October 24, 2010 05:33 PM
I have Scorpio on the Cusp of my 12th house as well and my moon in it. Juno too. All very lovely placements :|------------------ ~Believe~ IP: Logged |
lalalinda Moderator Posts: 897 From: nevada Registered: Apr 2009
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posted October 24, 2010 05:33 PM
Too Cool Lara, (and Kat) me too Jupiter/12th Chart Ruler, conjunct Ascendant12th house is ruled by Scorpio and Pluto is posited in the 9th sextile Neptune square Jupiter trine Saturn opposite Chiron inconjunct Mercury square Venus sextile Mars IP: Logged |
CrazyAquarian Knowflake Posts: 493 From: US Registered: Jan 2010
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posted October 24, 2010 05:35 PM
quote: sun in 12th and nessus both in cancer..
I'd think you'd be hard to read. Your sun being in such a hidden area. Do you find it hard/uncomfortable to express yourself? Very private person especially with your cancer. Just some ideas. Not sure about nessus....------------------ ~Believe~ IP: Logged |
Lara Knowflake Posts: 4848 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted October 24, 2010 05:49 PM
V cool Lala and Kat! My 12th ruler is my AC ruler - how can that be? and cancer/capricorn don't even rule a sign in my chart and moon and saturn are cj each other in 9th, jupiters house! Chart ruler/sun is also in 9th. huh? thats ODD. IP: Logged |
dinobleue Knowflake Posts: 146 From: USA Registered: May 2009
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posted October 24, 2010 05:53 PM
Moon conjunct my ASC, and Chiron...not sure about asteroids though- not much experience there. IP: Logged |
MyVirgoMask Knowflake Posts: 3018 From: Bay Area, CA Registered: May 2009
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posted October 24, 2010 06:00 PM
Moon in the 12th (in Aries), conjunct Chiron (in the 12th)...both oppose Uranus. IP: Logged |
pisces moon Knowflake Posts: 9 From: Registered: Aug 2010
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posted October 26, 2010 09:38 PM
My 12th house is ruled by neptune which is scorpio in the 7th. I have pisces moon and aries saturn in the 12th. the moon opposes venus, uranus and pluto but is trine neptune. Saturn is square midhaven and trine mars. I have some idea about what it means in it's parts but no idea what it means as a whole. IP: Logged |
teasel Knowflake Posts: 2142 From: Ohio Registered: Apr 2009
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posted October 27, 2010 12:25 AM
Uranus is in my 12th. There were a few asteroids as well, but I forget what they were. IP: Logged |
Spanky Butler Knowflake Posts: 1033 From: Australia Registered: Apr 2009
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posted October 27, 2010 03:38 AM
My 12th is empty to all appearances.I wonder what lurks beneath the Piscean waters, lol. Okay asteroids, here I come..... After much toil & sweat I finally found one after searching halfway down the Greek asteroids. (Nike - Just do it, lol.) Geez Louise I hate homework. I'll be back.... IP: Logged |
Spanky Butler Knowflake Posts: 1033 From: Australia Registered: Apr 2009
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posted October 27, 2010 04:53 AM
YayInnanen cnj AC. Also Telephus Getting there White, Damn my eyes are getting tired. I might be back for more, depends on how stubborn I am, lol. IP: Logged |
seeleah Knowflake Posts: 352 From: kokomo, IN, USA Registered: Dec 2009
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posted October 27, 2010 08:23 PM
Um, am I hard to read...for some reason lately yeah..I was always told I was an open book before because of my mercury conjunct my ascendant...but I am more quiet now than I have ever been. I think maybe it might be that I need to work on my ego karmically this time around..with abuse as a possible key issue? IP: Logged |
FrozenQueen Knowflake Posts: 471 From: The boundary where 'reality' ends and Dreams begin Registered: May 2010
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posted October 27, 2010 09:10 PM
12th house cusp in Gemini *duh*I don't need to check any sites to tell me what that is about. In a past life, I was a harbinger, to bring a powerful message, but I was too caught up in the material world(SN in Virgo 2nd), I lost faith and was unable to complete my mission Now, I've been sent again with a loaded 3rd house, NEMESIS conj KARMA conj Mercury in Scorpio in 3rd, Jupiter in Gemini in 10th and the NN in Pisces in 8th to BELIEVE and trust and have faith in a Higher Power. I don't remember my past life, but I remember my failed mission like a thorn in my side( Chiron in 12th in Cancer) and realising it to be the reason I am not home and I know, this time, I have to succeed. The only asteroid I can find is INTERKOSMOS conj. my Ascendant, its meaning only too clear: I am repeating my incarnation here because I strayed last time around. I'll check up others too... Cool thread edit: Chiron is retrograde which means I have to draw my healing inward...Healer, heal thyself. Oh, and found an asteroid...guess who conjuncts my Chiron?? DIONYSUS Wonder if I was a drunk monk type in my past life?? Could be why alcohol, smoke, drugs etc. hold no enchantment for me...I ODed in a past life. P.S. VIG...you're a guy ------------------ अस्तो मा सद् गमय | तमसो मा ज्योतिर्गमय | मृत्योन् मा अमृतं गमय् || ॐ शांति शांति शांति From the unreal, lead me to the real, From the darkness, lead me to light, From death and destruction, lead me to immortality. Peace. Peace. Peace. ♥ IP: Logged |
DD Knowflake Posts: 6678 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted October 28, 2010 06:37 AM
Mars, Amor, Liebe (love), Medea, Valentine, Soma, Mesopotamia As per equal system: all the mentioned ones plus
Anteros, Siva, Lancelot, Moira, London, Eurydike, Tyche, Bacchus, Ariadne, Penelope and probably a bunch of others.
Scorpio at the cusp of 12th house Pluto in Libra conjunct MC, and squaring Venus (in 10th and 11th per equal system) Mars in Sagittarius in 12th house. conjunct Neptune, Amor, Ireland, ASC, NN IP: Logged |
oneruledbymars Knowflake Posts: 757 From: South Carolina Registered: Apr 2009
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posted October 28, 2010 07:22 AM
I have Saturn in the 12th and those that ever make sense...lol Along with Spirit and Logos/Kaali...we know where my Karma lies! lolIP: Logged |
DiandraReborn25 Knowflake Posts: 2186 From: Portugal Registered: Apr 2009
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posted October 28, 2010 08:35 AM
well this is one of my favorite threads! i also never use to look at my 12th and now i looked several themes of asteroids here. my 12th is in Virgo,with Mercury there too in 0Libra. Before showing the asteroids i must say that im sure of some of my pastlifes: in Sumeria,Egypth,Greece,Roman times and around the times of Knights/im very drawn to the stories of aVALON for instance. i also know that i was an astronomer/astrologer with Jonnhy in ancient Egypth.and also in the times of when Jesus was born ( this by Lexx). 12th house: Gilgamesh 12 Virgo Triglov 12Virgo Hathor 13 Virgo Nemesis 13 virgo Ostara 13 Virgo Maria 26 Virgo ( means Mary) Horus 16 Virgo AThens 16 Virgo - all this opose Nymphe Echaton 10Virgo Briede 22Virgo Semiramis 22virgo Camelot 22virgo Solidarity 24Virgo Lova 26virgo musa 26virgo nefertiti 26virgo ricco 26virgo (means richnesses) these oposes Nepthrys 26 Betleem 27virgo galahad 27virgo IP: Logged |
DD Knowflake Posts: 6678 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted October 28, 2010 08:46 AM
Hey Diandra,your Camelot conjuncts mine!!! Oh and trines my Arthur on 21 Cappy. IP: Logged |
DiandraReborn25 Knowflake Posts: 2186 From: Portugal Registered: Apr 2009
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posted October 28, 2010 09:24 AM
so let me see,hathor has to do with strong women,patience,courage and nurtuting qualities,and also astrology.likes good things in Life cj nemesis and horus and triglog and gilgamesh. obvious here is the lifetime in Egypth. horus there too means nurture creative talents,courage,balance,healing,the arts,beauty and family. Nemesis has to do with enemies isnt it?perhaps i was a stonr willed woman,with healing qualities,or creative talents,nurturer,with a happy family.but somehow had enemies? this can go along with egypth ( echaton is there too) theme but also with roman,as Athens is there too. dont know what ostara,triglov means or gilgamesh there... i had a lifetime in the times of Camelot?hmmm i once had a dream of me and John getting married in those times though ( there is briede there look!)..and most of my lifetimes i was also a seer,someone linked to the spiritual. a good person with helping qualities too. SEMIRAMIS was a great queen,who ruled persia,assiria,armenia,arabia,egypth and asia..she created the gardens of Babylon! i was there too in one of my lifetimes with JOhn,see that with IQ and DD. THAT STELLIUM with lova/musa/nefertiti/ricco...might mean i lived in the time where nefertiti was Queen?i was probably a beautiful woman,who had love and richnesses...oposing nepthrys might mean that i was a person of the Light with deep spiritual beliefs and strong psychic talents. these square my AMENHOTEP in the 9th and ISIS/APHRODITE TOO. and Neptune 3rd. there is also galahad and Betleem there...i know that i lived there,probably and according to Lexx,and after the research i did,i could very well be Melchior,one of the 3 astronomers that gave presents to Jesus.or if not,someone very close to them. Galahad is there...makes sense cause i have n.Gawain cj n.Arhtur and Seth(also means loyalty and opositions). these cj my DRACO IC! i have natally my NN in the 9th in 21Geminini, conjunt: - GALATEA 17 - Vesta 19 - Varuna 19 - KAMA 21 - Caesar 25 - Amenhotep 24 SOUTH NODE - Glasgow 22 - pyramid 22 - lachesis 23 - cupid 25 Pyramid has to do with iniciation and protection,being tested and ancient knowledge,eternity,preservation.Of course,it also connects to the pyramids of Egypth probably. Lachesis was one of the 3 Moira,relates to personification of Destiny in Greek mythologie. Cupid there pertains to romance/love but also " being tantalized by óne´s reflexion. Glasgow...doesnt it also has to do with Camelot,arthur and Merlin? so probably this strenghten the suspicious that i was also someone related to the Camelot figures?someone somehow with narcisic?but an iniciater of the spitirual world? note that i have draco Merlin cj n.Karma/Fortuna. IP: Logged |
DiandraReborn25 Knowflake Posts: 2186 From: Portugal Registered: Apr 2009
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posted October 28, 2010 09:36 AM
i think my whole chart supports the 12th conections because:Sun 6 cj Estrela 6(star) cj Nofreteti 8 cj Apollo 8 cj Magion 4 cj Klio 6 cj Ireland 7 ASC cj Bethleem Astrowizard 3 scorp Kleopatra 4 Anubis 3 Merlin 8 strenghten the fact that i was really an astronomer/astrologer in egypth,relating to guardian and protector,feeling conected to LIfe. nessus 4 pandora 5 leo veritas 5 ubasti 5 soma 6 stargazer 6 ishtar 7 wallahan 8 mars/valentine 10 KARMA 13 leo artemis 13 ambrosia 13 parsifal 13 silver 13 these lASt ones i dont know... hestia 14 fortuna 14
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DiandraReborn25 Knowflake Posts: 2186 From: Portugal Registered: Apr 2009
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posted October 28, 2010 09:38 AM
DD REALLY? OMG do you think we met there?i thibk i was someone related to magic or white witch,someone very into the spiritual theme. IP: Logged | |