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Topic: Pisces Men... Yes again... LOL
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Lioness Knowflake Posts: 719 From: Registered: Mar 2010
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posted October 25, 2010 01:33 AM
I have been very distracted from work,home, and friends etc... Only because Im tryin to figure out what the heck is going on... LOLsooo YESSSSSSSSSSSSS Thats very true... Im stuck here.. I've been obessed with trying to figure things out, but can't.. This is actually what brought me to astrology aprox. 8 months ago.. I also do feel that I am here for other people, not myself... Im meant to do something.. Only I have no clue what that is... I feel Im suppose to some how help people, but in a very private and discreet way.. IP: Logged |
PlutoSquared Knowflake Posts: 437 From: Mars Registered: Aug 2010
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posted October 25, 2010 01:34 AM
Let me also clarify, that the 6th house is a great house. My interpretation of doing for others, and not doing for self, is just ONE interpretation. It's possible that your soul chose to evolve the Leo energy in the "me, me, me" sense and do something even better... help others. That's great. Regardless, these old (12th house, hidden, old) issues need to be faced. 2.) Mars in Scorpio in 9th square Sun (Leo in 6th) Again sq my Mars. To me these energies are directly challenging, almost to the point of causing conflict. Because the (scorpio) 9th house is the house of philosophy, travel, legalities, and higher mind and education opposing your service and health factor, this could mean that issues regarding death, regeneration, control are effecting your drive and health, and identity. Lioness, these transits are here to CHANGE you. If there's comfort in knowing that alone. It's going to be almost impossible to resist whatever is going on right now. Are you going through any sort of battles right now? Legal or otherwise, or do you feel that this scorpio in 9th is also signifies old "sexual and romantic" issues? 3.) Saturn in Libra in 7th house Conjunct Uranus Uranus at 15Lib saturn at 10Lib
... To continue, again...
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Lioness Knowflake Posts: 719 From: Registered: Mar 2010
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posted October 25, 2010 01:42 AM
No no legal issues.. I do feel the change.. I have changed in some ways... Yes it is some what comforting know I'm meant to change... AND Pisces has indirectly helped with some of that.. (hard to explain) Yeah I guess you can say I have had my share of sexual romantic issues.. Hey I got pluto sq venus... lol So its my transits that keep the connection going?? Is it me that cant let go, bc Im still trying to learn?? I do feel the universe (so to speak) keeps me and pisces going back, no matter what I try to do to stop it... I even deleted him number several times, and then something "happens" and he calls me... Its jus weird.... IP: Logged |
PlutoSquared Knowflake Posts: 437 From: Mars Registered: Aug 2010
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posted October 25, 2010 01:50 AM
3.) Saturn in Libra in 7th house Conjunct Uranus Uranus at 15Lib saturn at 10LibOk, Saturn in Libra in 7th conjunct Uranus in Libra: First of all, having Uranus in the 7th house can mean a couple things, or all of them, too. It can mean that you prefer to have excitement in your love relationships, have a great amount of emotional distance that allows you to pick and choose better what you want to get involved in, it can mean abrupt ends and beginnings in relationships, or it can mean going after really "crazy and unique" individuals, or individuals that really cause you to expand your horizon, embrace new people, new philosophy and love just happens to be the catalyst for that... So, here comes Saturn. Saturn is diligent, it is slow, it is devoted, hardworking, committed, SERIOUS, slow moving, and it's going to be sitting on top of your 7th house sector, on top of your Natal Uranus... What that means to me (well, what my gut feels) is that this is going to put all of that Uranus energy to a stop. It's going to make you sit down and focus on your love life. Whether it's because of a relationship (which I suspect because Saturn is in Libra in 7th, which is the house of partnership), it could be something else, too... It could be that you are being put to the test regarding your uranus energies in your 7th house sector... This is going to be a Karmic time that causes you to really go deep an re-evaluate your partnerships (friendships, family, and romantic) and the way you go about them. Maybe you will buckle down. Maybe you will feel restricted, it's hard to tell. A lot of times, for instance, when Saturn conjuncts a man's venus, it signifies marriage. I am assuming this means a significant relationship because Uranus is in your house of partnership, and Saturn is going to have it's say, and pretty soon... IP: Logged |
PlutoSquared Knowflake Posts: 437 From: Mars Registered: Aug 2010
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posted October 25, 2010 01:57 AM
Lioness,"So its my transits that keep the connection going?? Is it me that cant let go, bc Im still trying to learn?? I do feel the universe (so to speak) keeps me and pisces going back, no matter what I try to do to stop it... I even deleted him number several times, and then something "happens" and he calls me... Its jus weird...." Well, from what I've learned about Astrology is it's almost like a map of your life. The transits are the energies that you will face during your lifetime. How you choose to face the transits is your choice, and there are infinite possibilies. However, whatever you choose, there will be kind of a beacon where you'll be heading towards. Something that dawned on me when thinking about your 6th house sector a bit more, is that it's evolved the Ego of Leo. Virgo is of service to humanity. It diligently serves, without the Leo hangups, for the betterment of others. Maybe, in like a "one piece to the puzzle" way, this Pisces is going to help you lose that Leo ego, be humble, "submit" to love, and in turn (regardless of the outcome), be better able to fulfill that 6th house destiny of your sun - to be of service. That's my metaphysical mumbo-jumbo for tonight, but it's my best guess. IP: Logged |
Lioness Knowflake Posts: 719 From: Registered: Mar 2010
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posted October 25, 2010 02:01 AM
Uranus for me, is yes wanting extra space, and freedom to be. Yes I have alot of relationships that start quick and end quick.. Which is probably part of the confusion with Pisces.. Why wont it end... LOL.... Yes it has been a karmic time, and I feel "something" is after me, and wont let me breath.. I have given alot of thought into different aspects of my relationships... Your doing a GREAT JOB!! (high five to u!) Thank you for taking this time to do this for me, its very much appreciated... I do have to go to bed... Feel free to let me know what else you see.. I will reply tomorrow.. I was looking at me and Pisces Composite alot of Scoprio energy, plus pluto going on... The NN is conjunct Psyche.. We are meant to change our thinking?? Maybe.... Here take a look... What am I suppose to do here?? I know Im suppose to do something.. I just feel it... I know once I do it.. I feel the connection will be gone or at least not as strong...
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PlutoSquared Knowflake Posts: 437 From: Mars Registered: Aug 2010
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posted October 25, 2010 02:04 AM
Glad to help. It was fun. I'll post more tomorrow.IP: Logged |
Lioness Knowflake Posts: 719 From: Registered: Mar 2010
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posted October 25, 2010 02:08 AM
Im also going to post my and his progressed charts... IDK if it helps.. No worries if you dont need them... Just in case.. Again THANK YOU THANK YOU!! You HAVE helped me... big hugzzzzzzzzzzzz My progress His Progressed I wish I could do progressed synastry style, but I dont see that option. IP: Logged |
Chryseis Knowflake Posts: 42 From: Australia Registered: Sep 2010
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posted October 25, 2010 06:59 AM
Lioness, does the guy have kids?I was thinking about what PlutoSquared was saying about the Saturn transit to Uranus in 7th. If there is commitment it will probably be rushed on his part. Be careful of your emotions wanting the ideal rather than the reality with that quincunx between your natal venus and neptune being triggered by transiting Mars on Halloween. I didn't read all the posts, sorry. I have a distinct impression that he's looking for someone to look after something that is his responsibility so that he can go off and have fun with his mates. IP: Logged |
Lioness Knowflake Posts: 719 From: Registered: Mar 2010
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posted October 25, 2010 12:54 PM
@ Chryseis HE has one kid, that lives with the mother... He spends alot of time with his child.. That is not in his charachter. HE values every moment with his child... He doesnt drink, or smoke or do any drugs. He's acutally very stable, and secure. IP: Logged |
PlutoSquared Knowflake Posts: 437 From: Mars Registered: Aug 2010
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posted October 25, 2010 02:56 PM
The composite is extraordinarily telling... lemme post some good questions here, cuz I'm going to need you to be honest about this relationship...IP: Logged |
PlutoSquared Knowflake Posts: 437 From: Mars Registered: Aug 2010
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posted October 25, 2010 03:05 PM
1. Juno conjunct ascendant in Capricorn2. Pluto (Moon and Jupiter) in 10th in Libra opposite Aries Venus in 4th house. 3. Sun and Mercury in Taurus in 5th (very sensual and sexual) opposite Mars in Scorpio in 11th. 4. Neptune in Sagg in 12th 5. Saturn either 7th or 8th house in Leo MY QUESTIONS: 1. Is this a relationship that "fears" being public? 2. Is this a relationship that fears the back-biting and revenge of a social sphere at work? 3. Is this relationship that would be a "big deal" if it was apparent to everyone around? 4. Is this a relationship that you could seriously turn into a long term relationship/partnership (is it a partnership already?) because of the Capricorn ascendant conjunct Juno? 5. Is this a relationship that's probably A LOT OF FREAKIN FUN and very romantically potent - maybe BECAUSE it's also secret??? IP: Logged |
PlutoSquared Knowflake Posts: 437 From: Mars Registered: Aug 2010
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posted October 25, 2010 03:16 PM
This is a relationship that has opposing energies.On one hand, it's placements demand that it is emotionally "public", that it can be fun and free at the workplace, and passionate around friends. On the other hand, the venus placement demands that it is quiet, cautious, secretive and handled delicately - and also experienced passionately and implusively (aries) around the homefront or closed off arenas. Sun, Mercury in Taurus in 5th... is like slow brewing your romance. So, it's like "don't budge me, I want to savor every drop of this passionate romance, before I contend with the Mars in Scorpio in 11th house. Basically, "I don't want anyone to know about this absolutely sexy romance until we are sure "this is the one", and also fears the retaliation and perhaps contention and change that being passed around the social arena will bring... Neptune in 12th... this is reliving probably a lot of past romantic feelings, like "being teenagers again... being free to dream and be romantic - and without anyone knowing (12th house)" Saturn in Cancer/Leo cusp in 7th and 8th house - you guys both will have to do a great deal of emotional work to "face" this relationship. It's going to be a serious work in progress, one that may take a long time to figure out, one that may also be VERY frustrating, because both people have hangups in relationships, and neither wants to tread foolishly and let go of their control..." Lioness, good luck working on these energies. I see exactly why that Neptune placement was so telling now about the "distracting" issue at work and service. You guys probably are both trying to work diligently, and now this "karmic" relationship regarding love and passion is disturbing your whole world... Very interesting. IP: Logged |
Lioness Knowflake Posts: 719 From: Registered: Mar 2010
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posted October 25, 2010 03:31 PM
All I can say is LOL.... Yes its totally secret, which is exciting, and we have said we are like teenagers sneaking around.. The reason for the secret is because we work together. Different depts, but still see each other all day.. I am the Leo Mgr, while he is the Pisces background employee.. People have picked up on his, and he has gotten razed about me.. People know, but they dont know.. But Yes they are always wondering.. The guys tell him, theirs your girl... HE jus says ahhww she wishes she could have a stud like me... Then they all laugh.. If the "guys" found out he said he would never hear the end of it.. Yes its EXTREMLY slow, like I said its been almost a year now.. Yeah we both got our issues.. We do talk about them alot, and kinda give each other advice, we are both "runners" which we have talked about, and both of us have said that it is out of charchter for both of us, to remain like this "afterwards"
We do play little games, are we say stuff around other people, that only we would understand.. Yeah its alot of fun...
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PlutoSquared Knowflake Posts: 437 From: Mars Registered: Aug 2010
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posted October 25, 2010 03:34 PM
I'd say that if you guys do break through this issue of exposure, you're going to have to get used to working together and loving seperately.You'll just have to learn to keep work at work, and love at home. It's not really that big of a deal, but I don't know what profession you guys are in (so, who am I to say, exactly). This will be a continual theme with the two of you, and as long as you're comfortable with that, and you both want to continue working on it, this relationship can probably prove to be very enduring... With Juno conjunct Ascendant, I think it's "marriage bound". Good luck, Lioness!!!  IP: Logged |
Lioness Knowflake Posts: 719 From: Registered: Mar 2010
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posted October 25, 2010 03:54 PM
We are comoftable working together. What he doesnt like is other guys (vendors) have asked him about me.. (ok too funny) We have been getting closer... I could see myself with him.. but IDK if he can see himself with me.. In synastry we have a DW Juno conjuct each others Asc... See how karma is after me... since we are both runners, it put us here together, and neither can run.. its impossible... I have known him for a veryyyy long time.. We have both worked for the company for 10+ years.
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Chryseis Knowflake Posts: 42 From: Australia Registered: Sep 2010
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posted October 25, 2010 05:14 PM
Lioness, the fun with his mates idea is more about golf for instance, not drinking and drugging so much, though I thought he did like to drink.I think you may be surprised how much he is looking for someone to fill the responsible role with his child - like a substitute mother. Seems a lot of pressure to be in pole position in parenting - he prefers the role, I think, of parental display rather than the monotonous minute by minute care. Excuse me if I am incorrect though. Otherwise, to me he doesn't seem that keen on a commitment - only if it serves a function, and he may not be quite sure you fit the functions he is looking for. IP: Logged |
Lioness Knowflake Posts: 719 From: Registered: Mar 2010
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posted October 25, 2010 08:16 PM
Plutosq wanted to say thank u again for all ur time, and help... I really appreciate it.. @Chrseis The child thing is incorrect.. If you knew him you would know that... I have noooo doubts whats so ever about that... He spends as much time with his daughter as much as possible, and he just shines when he speaks of her... I think he's an awesome father.. Which is one of his best qualities.. Yeah Im sure he's not to keen on commitment in general.. Im ok with that, my issue was my feelings that he gives me, and my level of confusion.. Why does he not just walk away, and why dont I just walk away.. This is the norm for both of us, but yet neither of us will... I would have rather we have been done, then continue like this... Its very confusing and frustrating... I am frustrated with the strong bond and connection... I have spent months trying to understand it and figure it out.. I have had to deal with feelings I dont understand, and things were brought to subconscious all because of this one person.. Its very hard for me to "get this" I have a strong need desire to understand things... If I dont understand, I seek the answers... How do u seek answers to what your feeling?????? Well Astrology, thats how I came into this.. Which has some what guided me... But yet Im still very confused.. He makes my head spin in an emotional spiral which really isnt me.. Its very hard for me the understand things feelings, that I dont know what they are.. I honestly have no clue what my feelings are.... I feel as if I dont even know my self anymore... Where did these feelings come from.. From him??? That doesnt make sense either... IDK just confusing and weird... IDK like pluto square said though the universe is making me change... Im having to accept it, take it.. deal with it... Its not easy... Its been a tough 2 years.... To be perfectly honest. If he told me hey I cant stand you, get f- away from me... I would be relieved... Would I be hurt yes... But I understand hurt.. I know how to handle hurt.. Im use to hurt... I know what I need to do.... But here idk what the hell Im doing... Im such a strong person, but he makes me weak.. I dont get it... Its what ever he wants... I feel I owe him something... I would literally do anything for him, w/o a question...Unconditionally For gods sake Im a Leo... What Leo does that... lol sorry to ramble... IP: Logged |
PlutoSquared Knowflake Posts: 437 From: Mars Registered: Aug 2010
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posted October 25, 2010 09:16 PM
You'll make it through the harsh transits, Lioness.If I were you, I'd go to www.astrotheme.com and chech the ephermerides tool, find out when Pluto opposite Venus is going to be outside of a 3 degree orb, make sure you have all the options selected, otherwise It might not register the transit. If you can see when Pluto will be outside of that orb, you will know when EXACTLY you will begin to get some closure and be out of this "push, pull, up, down, emotional rollercoaster". IP: Logged |
Chryseis Knowflake Posts: 42 From: Australia Registered: Sep 2010
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posted October 25, 2010 09:43 PM
Lioness, you're problem is that you are very pretty and very competitive - and I don't mean either as a negative, but these features can sure get you into trouble.(Venus in Taurus opposing Jupiter, venus ruled by moon/merc and sun conjunct in Leo, plus Mars in Leo *rolls eyes*...omg)Is it worth it? Chiron-Neptune transiting the 12th is bang on an aggravating opposition to your Mars in Leo, ruler of 2nd. Well yes, it probably is, but how far are you willing to compromise here. And why is it secret (I didn't read all the posts sorry). The problem is that I'm thinking he emulates the frustrating/charismatic qualities of your father that found you chasing after him to be able to be in his radiance as a child of 5-7yrs (Sun in Leo square Neptune in quincunx to venus in 4th). Take a 'word'of advice from your mother (Moon/Merc sextiling Saturn on IC and Uranus in 7th). 'Equal him, in lifestyle, but on your own timetable' Its not hard - you have similar leisure/social/business lunch natures I'm thinking. Once you have your self running more in tune with this revamped self esteem then you can reassess your orientation to him (when the Jup/ura transit makes final squares to Natal jup trining natal Mars)in light of things like reputation and what you want to do with your life,share etc, and your philosophy of life (10th house jupiter squaring pluto in 8th ruler of 9th). IP: Logged |
Lioness Knowflake Posts: 719 From: Registered: Mar 2010
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posted October 25, 2010 11:14 PM
Nooo.. No worries.. No offense taken I appreciate any and all input.. Its only a secret because we work together and I am a manager and he isn't. Even though I am not his manager.. Mgr employee relations are frowned on. You see I work in a male predominate area. I am the only female manager. There are only 2 other females in the entire building, both women being much older .. Im this 30 something little 5'2 hot shot that wont take crap from the guys... They respect me, but yet joke with me..... So if the other workers heard Pisces hooked up with me. OOOOO it would be the TALK FOREVER! Him scoring "big points" lol... They already do see our connection.. Its noticeable, they have made wise cracks and asking him, if anything is going on with me... He jus makes a joke, they all laugh.. He tells me all this... But yeah he tells me that one of the guys always tells him, your girl is outside talking to ------... So damn they tell him everything about me.. But its jus them trying to see if anything is going on... Its a mess.. I know... So we BOTH swore each other to totally secrecy. To avoid the rumors and what not... Since Im not his manager I dont have access to any of his info, or get information on his performance or what not... Im a little confused at what chart you were looking at though. Venus in Taurus? My natal venus is in Cancer my progressed venus is in Leo.. But yeah I have a knack for getting my self into trouble :P Dont get me wrong, I for sure keep him on his toes...He never knows what Im going to do next.. He knows nothing of these feelings I have.. Actually no one does.. Just here on LL is where I get it all out.. When I am near him Im the big bad wolf, that wont take no crap... He has said the guys respect me more than the other male mgrs, bc I have bigger balls... LOL.. I will tell the guys u f-up.. fix it.. then I move on.. Here's the funny thing.. (also to Plutosq)... I was thinking about how u said we are working out relationship issues together... Yes its true... I didnt realize it bc we do it in such a way, that its actually fun... I guess cuz its comfortable for both of us... Well we are BOTH very very competitive (then through in that aries venus and mars opps mars)dont ask how it was in private) We are EXTREMELY competitive with each other... So we have both admitted we take off at the 1st sign of getting trapped.. SO we will tell our stories, to each other, but in an ooo yeah I can top your story listen to MINE to of way.. Funny but we both tell each other OOOO u fell for that u got succcckered in.. hahahah.. We laugh about it... Then compete with another story.. We talk shiz about the other and laugh... Its really cool.. I love when we talk.. IP: Logged |
Chryseis Knowflake Posts: 42 From: Australia Registered: Sep 2010
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posted October 26, 2010 01:24 AM
Yeah you're right, I don't know where I got Venus in Taurus from.IP: Logged |
Lioness Knowflake Posts: 719 From: Registered: Mar 2010
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posted October 27, 2010 12:04 AM
Ahh.. Screw Pisces... Im taking off again... Cant handle being around him for that long... Screw Gem also... I gave him a piece of my mind.. IDK WTF he wants from me... He needs to leave me alone also... Men sux!
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racole12 Knowflake Posts: 684 From: the world is my home! Registered: Feb 2010
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posted October 27, 2010 12:05 AM
mine has been acting weird the last 2 weeks... I haven't even talked to him this week... IP: Logged |
Lioness Knowflake Posts: 719 From: Registered: Mar 2010
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posted October 27, 2010 12:07 AM
This pisces came back 2 weeks ago, with a vengeance.. IDK its jus to much for me... I cant take being around him that long... I guess.. its jus to much... Its to much feeling... I gonna go crawl into my shell and lock the door... Blahhhh..Men Sux! IP: Logged | |