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Lioness
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posted October 24, 2010 11:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lioness     Edit/Delete Message
No matter what I just can't get away from this... I really like him, yet I dont see anything working out... When I do move past him,and move on.. He comes back to me with a vengeance. He just knocks me off my feet again, over and over..

In the last week or so, we have become even closer, talking more and more.. He's finally being totally honest with me, and opening up to me.. Which is cool.. But yet I feel another let down is just around the corner.

Next month in Nov will be a year that this has been going on like this, back and fourth up and down...
I just wish I could understand this connection.. Its very confusing... Is it the synastry, the composite our transits??? Why are we so locked into this??
I have honestly tried everything to get past this, from deleting his number, to ignoring him, and going off on him.. Thinking HE would tell me something, go away... But yet nothing... We get upset with each other, we wont talk for a while, then one of us goes back, like nothing ever happen.. Then we get closer, until we get upset again.. Then we start all over...

It wasnt suppose to be like this.. We were just going to go out, have some fun.. Then walk away... Now we are so bonded that no matter what either of us tries, we cant walk away... He's FINALLY even admitted to the "special bond" we have, and how I HAVE to be a part of his life..
He tells me no matter what, u know I have ur back, and I know u have mine... He said I know u will always be there for me.. SO I dont worry about u going away..

sighhhhhhhh...

I dont want to be like this anymore.. I dont want to keep going up and down...

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posted October 24, 2010 11:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PlutoSquared     Edit/Delete Message
I say make him PROVE it. Like that prove your love song by madonna... http://www.spike.com/video/madonna-into-groove/2721354

Sorry, but you're a Leo and I always think of Madonna with Leo...

But, seriously, make this guy prove it. He was the one that messed it up the first time.

Just my Aries opinion

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PlutoSquared
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posted October 24, 2010 11:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PlutoSquared     Edit/Delete Message
And Lioness,

Decide on if you like the excitement or if you want to settle with this guy.

If you like the excitement, then stop worrying and let it go where it goes.

If you want to pounce on that fish, then start pulling in the reigns and being serious about it...

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Lioness
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posted October 25, 2010 12:05 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lioness     Edit/Delete Message
He has made a better effort.. Granted not a 360 but better.. He did stop with the beating around the bush thing. He's being alot more direct, and in turn has opened him self up to me...

As for me I can just go with it, and see how it plays out.. Thats really not what bothers me, what bothers me the most is these intense feelings, the connection I have with him.. Its very deep.. I feel things I have never felt before.. I didnt even know I could have such strong feelings about things.. I can feel him, and I know what he's thinking.. I feel as if I can see his soul, and that I can see through him... I feel him block me at times, but yet I break the block.. Sounds weird?? I know.. these are some of the things I dont understand... He even told me, I cant believe how much u know about me. He says he really likes that because he know's he doesnt have to explain himself to me... He said I am just like him (we mirror each other, so to speak)

I just want to understand.. I need to understand... I feel if i could understand the "why" I could better cope with this.. Why is this so strong, what is the purpose?? Its driving me insane...

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posted October 25, 2010 12:09 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for PlutoSquared     Edit/Delete Message
Can you post YOUR chart with transits???

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Lioness
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posted October 25, 2010 12:15 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lioness     Edit/Delete Message
My Natal??

Yeah here you go..

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posted October 25, 2010 12:18 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for PlutoSquared     Edit/Delete Message
Right off the bat, I'm going to say likely you're going to make a commitment in the next year, seeing as Saturn in Libra will conjunct your Uranus in the 7th house.

That just screams putting a halt to any experimenting and dating, and doing the buckle down...

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posted October 25, 2010 12:21 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for PlutoSquared     Edit/Delete Message
And, I can't tell exactly where that Pluto placement is, but if it's conjunct your Jupiter in 10th, it's probably a great year for you regarding employment...

But, it could always just mean a LOT of responsibility... and if I remember correctly you mentioned something like that before???

If Pluto in Capricorn is opposing your Venus in 4th...

My guess would be that it's challenging you to get out of your "cancer" love cave, and get OUT into the world to experience love.

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posted October 25, 2010 12:23 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for PlutoSquared     Edit/Delete Message
Capricorn to me is Male Authority, so maybe the Universe is using the most irresistable man to get you coax you out...

This Pisces is probably doing just exactly what the "universe" wants...

Sorry, but you don't a lot of control over this, and it's probably the point. You not supposed to.

If it were up to you, you would probably play it safe for the rest of your life, seeing as you have Venus in Cancer in the 4th.

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Lioness
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posted October 25, 2010 12:28 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lioness     Edit/Delete Message
T.Pluto is at 3Cap my Jupiter is 28Sag
My venus is 2Can.

Yes Pluto is opps my Venus..
pluto prob still has a bit more until it his jupiter..

I have been a little bit more mellow, I did go through an experimental phase.. (shhh) but yeah Im pretty much done with that...

Yes I have had more work..

As for getting out and experiences love, yeah not so easy, there... Idk... I like my shell... Its safe
When i go out I meet, Pisces and Gem guy... LOL... You see how those turn out...

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Lioness
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posted October 25, 2010 12:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lioness     Edit/Delete Message
OMG... So is that why I reconnected with Gem?? Because he's someone I always wondered about.. I missed him sooo much over the years... But Im good now

Pisces... Im confused here.. I have this connection, so I will go out and met men??

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posted October 25, 2010 12:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for PlutoSquared     Edit/Delete Message
Then Mars is about to conjunct Neptune in Sagittarius.

To me that sounds romantic, and like an adventure.

Can you post a different chart...maybe something showing the angles between the transiting planets and natal planets?

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Lioness
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posted October 25, 2010 12:32 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lioness     Edit/Delete Message
Sorry Im not sure what type of chart you want to look at next... Can you clarify?

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PlutoSquared
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posted October 25, 2010 12:34 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for PlutoSquared     Edit/Delete Message
I gotcha... the Gem is the one you reconnected with but it's more a "glad you had that experience"... the Pisces is the deep connection, but confusing bond...

From an objective standpoint, it could just be the energy of your chart using both (and maybe perhaps more people) to challenge your Venus placement.

Again, I think you need to consider that Saturn conjunct Uranus in 7th, because perhaps these events are going to lead you to a solid relationship, pretty soon.

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posted October 25, 2010 12:36 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for PlutoSquared     Edit/Delete Message
Lioness, let me check the chart selection at astro.com... and see.

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posted October 25, 2010 12:41 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for PlutoSquared     Edit/Delete Message
Lioness,

If you go to the Free Chart Selection, 2 over from the Circular Charts Section: Pullen/Astrolog...

Select the natal chart with transits*

Blur out whatever info on the right, it's fine, I just need to be able to see the angles between the natal and transiting planets.

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posted October 25, 2010 12:43 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lioness     Edit/Delete Message
Yes Gem is the one I reconnected with.. He's also the one that hurt me very deeply.. I was never the same after that... Not caring.. Being cold, and running away before I got hurt.. All of this because of him.. I am glad I met up with him again... I see him in a new light, very immature and irresponsible.

I dont feel that I missed out on him anymore.. You know that "what if" It tormented me..

Pisces I have the strong connection with.. It confuses me... I feel I have no choice but to stay near him, and be apart of his life... Even though my first instinct is to run.. I run, put I get pulled right back.. I have tried so hard to escape... I fail each time.. I know I have done things to push him away (also) secretly hoping he would tell me to F-off.. but he just wont.... If he did.. I could go, with no problem... I dont understand that... Why cant he just tell me that... Why bring me back when I take off.. (He takes off also) dont get me wrong.. but comes back... Knowing I will be there... Which is another thing.. Why am I there???

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posted October 25, 2010 12:46 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lioness     Edit/Delete Message
This one???

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PlutoSquared
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posted October 25, 2010 12:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for PlutoSquared     Edit/Delete Message
"Pisces I have the strong connection with.. It confuses me... I feel I have no choice but to stay near him, and be apart of his life... Even though my first instinct is to run.. I run, put I get pulled right back.. I have tried so hard to escape... I fail each time.. I know I have done things to push him away (also) secretly hoping he would tell me to F-off.. but he just wont.... If he did.. I could go, with no problem... I dont understand that... Why cant he just tell me that... Why bring me back when I take off.. (He takes off also) dont get me wrong.. but comes back... Knowing I will be there... Which is another thing.. Why am I there???"

Going JUST on the Pluto placement, this is what I think:

If Pluto is the planet that really seeks to change us and blow us out of our comfort zone, why would you be presented now with this specific relationship... that seems to yank you back and forth, back and forth?

Well, it's "exercising" your Venus placement. I can't tell you exactly what you're going to learn with that, because there's no way for me to walk that experience, like you will.

However, from the outside, my gut says that you're being CHALLENGED to let go of that Cancerian Love CONTROL, in a painful PLUTO way (that does not care about your comfort zones), it simply is there to get you to shake off those constraints... the deep ones about love, safety, pride, etc. that you probably don't want to lose, at all.

I'm not a fan of Pluto. But, honestly, it's there challenging your Venus, so you have to make the best of it.

This man, giving you "deep, spiritual feeling of bond" screams Pluto energy to me. Pluto is a energy that you can't turn away from... it's going to yank you around like a magnet, whether you like it or not.

As for the outcome, I doubt you will know exactly in the midst of a Pluto transit, although (being a leo) you're going to fight like heck to understand it, so you can get an upper hand. Good luck, it probably won't happen that way.

Just trust that this back and forth is probably something that's Karmic and needs to happen, for some reason, you'll understand a little later on.

Everytime you start worrying about loss, control, comfort, take a deep breath, and just go with it...

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posted October 25, 2010 12:52 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for NeptuneIllusion     Edit/Delete Message
Piscean men in my experience are head trips, nothing more.

I have been interested in a few male Pisces, and every single time I ended up exhausted, heart broken and drained. They are impossible to pin-point, and are usually obsessed with secrecy.

That is just a generalization, though. There are very wonderful Piscean men, they are usually just very confused.

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posted October 25, 2010 12:53 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for PlutoSquared     Edit/Delete Message
Yes, that one!

I'm looking it over, right now.

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posted October 25, 2010 01:00 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lioness     Edit/Delete Message
PlutoSq..

Wow.. Ur really hitting a soft spot with me here.. Yes it does make alot of sense especially the universe forcing me to get out of my shell (Im introverted)

I do want to get the upper hand and figure this all out. but yeah ur right I am fighting to know, but not having much luck... LOL.. Its driving me insane..

So I need to stop fighting the pull, and jus go with it?? Even though I end up looking like a fool..

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posted October 25, 2010 01:04 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for PlutoSquared     Edit/Delete Message
Ok, these transits are biggies, too:


Neptune in 12th in Aquarius opposing Sun (Leo in 6th)

Chiron in 12th in Aquarius opposing Sun (Leo in 6th)

Mars in Scorpio in 9th square Sun (Leo in 6th)

Saturn in Libra in 7th house Conjunct Uranus

Just look over them on your side to make sure they're within a 3 degree orb, so that they're relevant to your reading.

I'll post more in a sec.

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posted October 25, 2010 01:09 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lioness     Edit/Delete Message

Neptune in 12th in Aquarius opposing Sun (Leo in 6th)
Neptune 25Aqu opps my 26leo Mars (sun at 16)

Chiron in 12th in Aquarius opposing Sun (Leo in 6th)
Chiron at 26Aqua opps my Mars 26Leo


Mars in Scorpio in 9th square Sun (Leo in 6th)
Again sq my Mars.

Saturn in Libra in 7th house Conjunct Uranus
Uranus at 15Lib saturn at 10Lib

so the transits are hitting my Mars.. Its to far from my Sun,my Sun is at 16Leo.

FYI..
Pisces Mars is at 23Aqua its opposite my Mars. These transits are conjunct his mars.

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posted October 25, 2010 01:18 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for PlutoSquared     Edit/Delete Message
1.)

Neptune in 12th in Aquarius opposing Sun (Leo in 6th)
Neptune 25Aqu opps my 26leo Mars (sun at 16)

Neptune in 12th in Aquarius to me, means Unexpected (aquarius energy) old issues, old love issues (being Neptune), old confusing issues (also Neptune) opposing your Sun in the 6th???

Having a Leo in the 6th house is a funny placement, to me. It's like you're built to shine, instead you're being a service to mankind.

For me this Neptune placement is directly confusing you, right now. This is probably why you're not able to get a good "grasp" on what's going on with your life, because "old issues" keep getting thrown your way and distracting you from your job, your life, and your "service" to mankind...

Does this sound right?

Likely, this is supposed to be happening, right now.

For a random example. Maybe you grew up thinking you were built for success, but took some hard issues earlier in life that left you feeling somehow inadequate (very common for cancer influences, as well), so instead of really going for what you want, you settle and do for others...

Maybe these men and issues from the past, that are confusing you, and causing you to be unable to do what you were diligently doing before (6th house service), you are now having to focus on, "What the heck is going on???"

That the point. You're being challenged by these old issues, and not just by Neptune, but by Chiron, which is the wounded healer...

More in a sec...

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