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angel100
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posted October 27, 2010 09:27 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for angel100     Edit/Delete Message
I found this website with a little piece stating that venus/sun aspects between two charts are superior to all other synastry aspects...would you agree with this? If not, what synastry aspects would you consider to be the most important in a romantic relationship?
http://buddymaterna.wordpress.com/synastry/

If you scroll down to the part titled "some pointers for positive synastry" you will see the part where they say that venus/sun contacts are the most important. They however do not specify the aspect type they are referring to, I'm assuming they mean the easy aspects and the conjunction.

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posted October 27, 2010 09:32 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for GrlyGirl20     Edit/Delete Message
I actually disagree that Sun/Venus are the best. Personally I would have to say for love and comfort and just plain adoring the person I would say that Moon Venus might be deff more cushy. I personally LOVE Moon/Venus aspects, Sun/Venus is great as well...but there is more of an emotional and tender/affectionate side to Moon/Venus at least from what I've experienced. And for the most part with Moon/Venus (at least from what I've experienced) it is very easy for the two people to be VERY affectionate and touchy feely...this extends to sex of course. But there is a bit of a feeling of always softly touching somoene. Again this is from what I have experienced (as either the Venus or Moon) and from what I've seen.

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posted October 27, 2010 10:02 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for angel100     Edit/Delete Message
I have to say that in the married couples I know who I have accurate birth info on, those sun/venus aspects are much more prevalent than moon/venus..in fact...most of them had no venus moon aspects at all which I found strange. Trines, conjunctions and sextiles between sun/venus, venus/merc and sun/merc were what I saw popping up all over the place in those charts....

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posted October 27, 2010 11:15 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ariscopisgrl87     Edit/Delete Message
I went to the link you provided and figured i post the bottom half that has the positive synastry pointers:

There is no such thing as the perfect chart. But these things should be sought after rather than using aspects in order to reject someone. Compatibility is one thing, but there is also such a thing as having someone that is different to yourself and who can encourage you to experience different things.

Venus signifies love, and attraction, it is so obvious. Venus – Sun in aspect, this is the aspect that you should look for, all other aspects are just inferior.

The Descendant: The Descendant has as its natural ruler Venus, and is the traditional house of your intimate love. So what you need here is Venus – Descendant aspects, and by its very nature, Venus – Ascendant aspects, but especially Venus conjunct the Descendant.

Mars signifies sex, interestingly Mars is the natural ruler of the Ascendant and 1st house. Mars in harmonious aspect must be present to bring heat and warmth, its nature is of fire, this makes for passion.

Then Saturn, the other traditional malefic. Saturn allows things to last. A relationship is based on time spent together, and Saturn is Cronus. Saturn by its nature is in exaltation in the 7th sign Libra, the sign of the marriage and partnership. Saturn brings stability to people’s lives and permanence. Harmonious Saturn aspects are wanted.

Jupiter is important for Faithfulness. Jupiter in aspect will make things feel good.

Pluto. Pluto is about manipulation and attraction as well.
http://buddymaterna.wordpress.com/synastry/

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posted October 27, 2010 11:44 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Peri     Edit/Delete Message
I personally prefer Venus/Moon aspects too, also Jupiter/Moon, Jupiter/Venus.

My friend had Venus conj Sun double whammy with her ex husband, they were very much in love at the beginning but a couple of years later they started taking each other for granted, cheating etc.

So in general, no aspect will make it 'happy and long-term' if you are not considerate of each other and do not want to work on your relationship.

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posted October 27, 2010 05:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Chryseis     Edit/Delete Message
I agree that the Sun/Venus, particularly the conjunction but definitely the trine and sextile too, envelops the couple in a distinct love feeling between them. There is a definite pleasant warmth of love generated by the combo.

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posted October 27, 2010 05:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Betty Boop     Edit/Delete Message
For something that is both long lasting and happy- I'd look for Moon-Pluto, Moon-Saturn trines plus Venus/Mars aspects and Sun/Sun trines, and also Nodal contacts.

Actually Venus/Pluto and Venus/Saturn trines are great as well.

Venus/Sun adds spice but most synastries that lack Pluto and Saturn fizzle out in time. The people may still be together years later but the feelings between them don't stand the test of time.


I'd like to see a few of the aspects mentioned present, not just one or another.

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posted October 27, 2010 05:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lara     Edit/Delete Message
As a variation to sun/venus cj, what about synastry of
sun cj sun exact in taurus/venus ruled?

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posted October 27, 2010 06:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for comica23     Edit/Delete Message
Opposition is nice to. X3

By the way, how does the square aspect feels like?

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posted October 27, 2010 06:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for letram     Edit/Delete Message
i agree with the moon-venus aspects, currently in a relationship where its a mutual reception/double whamm deal (conjunction + trine)

we also have a double whammy -saturn-venus aspect, though hard.

for us, long term from the very begining has always felt natural and to be, and what we strive for. like very seriously. astrologically speaking i would say tahts the venus-saturn and venus-moon double whammy (moon and saturn are about long term commitment imo).

venus-sun is beuatiful and pretty, i dont think it has the substance to last though. i think it makes itsself best in progressed synastry though, that is apparently Very common aspects in the start of a relationship, and in our case, we have/had-ish a double whammy venus-sun trine in progressed (progressed venus's on our n. suns)


i think strong saturn is needed for the feel to last to be strong.

pluto to keep the feelings from going cooler or relaxing.

venus-moon-mars-sun aspects between to keep it real.

we have sun-opposition-sun and venus-opposition-venus.

oppositions keep things naturally exciting i think, maybe im based but its just waht im experiencing, perhaps its what keeps it from getting 'cool' wiithout the sticky-obsessive energy of pluto.

sun-mars is really handy and attractive,


mercury aspects are important for how to work out issues.


i think the composite is quite important.

i think venus-venus is an uncommon but very nice aspect to have in synastry, hard or easy.

venus-moon, i think is like venus-saturn, its pure energy thats Real, but its not the energy that necessarily draws people together as much as stuff like -mars-venus.

but when they are, they are stronger than most aspects i would think.

i think of one long term relationship (4 going on 5 years) and they have no venus-sun aspects.

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posted October 27, 2010 07:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MyVirgoMask     Edit/Delete Message
Jupiter has been really key for me in the long term (and I am always Jupiter - while the guy is Venus). With my ex husband and my current boyfriend I have Jupiter conj Venus, Jupiter conj their sun as well. Yes, it's very good for a relationship I feel. Plus I seem to have the effects of bringing added income for them (don't ask - for some reason my exes and current boyfriend have had super financial luck when I was in the pic lol).

I had Venus/Sun conj in composite with my ex and we were very much in love. But I've been very much in love before without Sun/Venus conj too
Current SO and I have Venus/Sun double whammy in synastry (trine, square). It's all good.
Sun/Venus is important in THEORY because it's supposed to be like idealistic of the masculine sun and the feminine Venus. By the same principle, it's meant to line up with the whole Sun/Moon or Mars/Venus stuff, but I've never had any of those 3 things make a relationship last. Everyone is different and will react differently, this is not some kind of secret formula lotto thing with the aspects. You fall in love and have a relationship first. You worry about the synastry LATER

And yeah, you need Saturn in synastry pretty much.

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posted October 27, 2010 07:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Benedict Moon*     Edit/Delete Message
The one sun/venus conjunction (me =venus) I had with someone lasted about 5 weeks. I can see how it generates great feelings, but it certainly isn't superior. There is no such thing if you remember that everyone has their own individual needs/wants.

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posted October 27, 2010 07:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Chryseis     Edit/Delete Message
I think it is superior but doesn't equate with other words like binding, commitment, crazy attraction, intensity, etc. These are other aspect combos. And it doesn't mean happily ever after.

I think if you have Sun/Venus or someone's Sun in your 7th(the venus ruled traditional house of Libra)you will always have a love feeling though it can become contorted/distorted by other contacts and elements in the synastry.

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posted October 27, 2010 07:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Betty Boop     Edit/Delete Message
Just wanted to add that I know many married couples who have semi-sextile Suns and often the Venus-Sun conjunction. Basically all my family members are married to a semi-sextile Sun sign person (that's a lot of couples).

These are nice enough marriages that turn into friendships over time with the occasional annoying but extremely funny bickering.

They are much like the classic sit-com marriage.

I prefer trined Suns marriages because they are more passionate long term. But I guess these could also have Sun-Venus aspects - sans the conjunction.

That being said - I remember reading a handful of posts on LL - all from different individuals with different stories at different times - who happen to be t he children of a trined Sun marriage ---- and they are far from happy with their parents treatment of them.

Perhaps the parents are so into each other that they neglect parenting duties - I'm really not sure.

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posted October 27, 2010 07:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Chryseis     Edit/Delete Message
And I don't think you can't have a great or superior relationship without it. Just if it is there it supplies a bonus to the atmosphere and a great foundation.

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posted October 27, 2010 07:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Benedict Moon*     Edit/Delete Message
I still disagree that there is a superior aspect for EVERYONE, but that's just me.


Trined suns? Hmmmm, I personally couldn't imagine myself marrying a pisces or a Scorpio. Not bashing them, they just aren't for me longterm.

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posted October 27, 2010 07:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MyVirgoMask     Edit/Delete Message
Uh, my ex and I were a trine sun marriage and I wanted to throttle him! My moon was so dampened by his stooooopid sun and stellium, plus he was just a prick !
I had a few ok relationships with semi-sextile boys. Surprisingly my quincunx sun relationship is the only one which has made me happy. Neither my Aries moon nor the Virgo sun have to sacrifice too much, which is a relief.

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posted October 27, 2010 08:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Benedict Moon*     Edit/Delete Message
My ex's sun was trined mine by degree...we actually had a grand water trine involving his sun and moon and my sun. He played too many headgames before it started and was extremely passive-aggressive. Plus the trine just made him SO lazy...he couldn't initiate anything to save his life.

I'd take a Moody Sun/Sun conjunction over that crap anyday. Much less apathetic, and 10 times more understanding.

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posted October 27, 2010 08:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MyVirgoMask     Edit/Delete Message
Benedict, my ex husband and I had a grand earth trine and I can assure you it made for a lot of bullsht lol

Grand trines are nice, but in my honest opinion t squares are better (or, they can be). Then again I am partial to my own t square

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posted October 27, 2010 08:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Betty Boop     Edit/Delete Message
I could easily imagine myself marrying one particular Leo guy but we also have my Venus opposite his Mars ( which is conj my Pluto) - and several Saturn aspects.
But I can't marry him anyway for other reasons lol Such is life..

I don't think any particular aspect works on it's own though. I've met many other men with their Sun trine my own and it's not the same feeling and not close to being as intense. --- Although come to think of it now - if any of these guys were the last man left on Earth and I was forced to spend my life with them - It wouldn't bother me... So I guess I still like them a little.

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posted October 27, 2010 08:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Benedict Moon*     Edit/Delete Message
Yeah, I can't say I truly dislike my ex or anyone who trined my Sun, I just agree with you both that it isn't enough for initiating anything. On it's own, I feel like the grand trine actually generates some apathy (even if it is strong 'connectionwise') because both people just expect everything to fall into place. One or both of the people don't feel like they have to put in any work. It's kind of disheartening in some ways.

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posted October 27, 2010 08:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for letram     Edit/Delete Message
so people here consider one persons sun in anothers 7th house similar to venus-sun aspect?

i have this in our synastry, its not near the DSC but its almost EXACTly conjunct my NN. on the note of NN, i think this is a point in everyones chart where people who you become involved with in some way or another, whos aspects conjunct it, are meant to brign something to your life, but the house your NN is in determine its purpose, the houses are apparently our lessons in this life time.

my NN is in my 7th house, and her sun conjuncts it in my 7th, on top of that, her sun is right now conjunct my progressed DSC. so its enhanced, i was wondering if her 'purpose' astrologically speaking is to have a relationship with me? i mean others here spoke of Sun-NN people in their lives helping them alot with work and carreer and were special in some way, but not romantic.

my one is!

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interesting about the grand trines, we have a very tight one, i think i affect her more than she does me though i could be wrong.. i think ours is quite significant because our grand trine is between all 3 fire planets (Sun, Mars & Jupiter) in all 3 fire signs. (with my Sun being the only one in its native sign though) but my Sun completes a kite in her chart (or just a grand trine if you want to look at the g. trine alone) her jupiter in aries, trine her mars in sagittarius, both trine my sun in leo.

we have enough hard aspects that show us we have ALOT of work to do aha!

i think we just may have needed a grand trine.

what about Sun-opposite-Sun? i think this works for me because suns in the sign opposite mine are of the sign my DSC is in.

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posted October 27, 2010 09:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lonake     Edit/Delete Message
I will have to disagree with the NightSky Christian Astrologer

It's so not that simple, lol.

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posted October 27, 2010 09:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lonake     Edit/Delete Message
letram I love the NN synastry with your lady friend, considering the p.Dsc, etc. And sure, you can think of Dsc in terms of being Venusian, and the Asc in terms of being Martian...Think of synastry you had with Mars conj Asc & then contrast it with Venus conj Dsc. Ha, then it'll really stand out!
It's interesting what you say about the grand trine affecting her more, as she is the one with the trine, correct? you're just bringing your sun, right? Can you explain anymore about it? thanks~

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letram
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posted October 28, 2010 01:10 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for letram     Edit/Delete Message
yes indeed!

its actually exactly conjunct her Sun right now (and my natal NN) by 1 degree. (my nn is 25. 56 mins of arc Aqua, her Sun is 26 aqua, and my Sun is 27 Leo)

my DSC conjuncts her Moon-Sun midpoint, i wonder who feels that one more?

anyway, yes, she is the trine, her mars is in Sagittarius : 25 degree, jupiter in Aries: 25 degree, and my Sun at 27 leo. her Sun in aquarius at 26 degree makes it a genuine kite.

i think i affect her more in the trines, overall in the synastry im actually not quite sure.

but many times, without my saying of anything, she has expressed this feeling that i "complete her" and often times we have mentioned how we complete eachother, and fill in areas of interest the other isnt in. we also feel very much that were both stronger than eachother in areas the other is weaker.

an example is i love films. she loves books. i like drawing, she likes writing. she likes music etc.

theres many things..

i think i affect her in an attraction sense because its HER mars (the planet women apparentl may look to for the ideal man features/personality type) and her mars depositor is in Aries (jupiter) along with her venus in Aries. my moon is in aries but, my Sun & ASC are in leo, im all fire baby. so i guess i fulfill the grand trine but also the ideal mars-venus attraction.

her Sun is in Aqua though and her mars conjuncts uranus, i have strong uranus in my chart (square venus, in my 5th house, trine my sun, oppose my jupiter, wide square to moon) so i guess i only fulfill the aqua / uranus a little.

i really dig the NN synastry, it must be because its in my 7th house, iv found her aquarian sun energy it seems, really a strong attraction. that no mars/venus planet could really do, im quite attracted in the fact she IS aquariuan at core, identity, who she is, rather than some one with mars/venus in aquarius who take action or attract with those qualities, because thats not really who they are at core.

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