posted October 30, 2010 10:47 AM            

could you have a look at that?

I have never before put into her chart some of the more occult / spiritual asteroids.

her tropical:

her Draco-tropical comparision

What do you think?

posted October 30, 2010 05:37 PM            

Yes, I actually asked her today what happened to her in 1993-1995. I had a pretty good idea what she would answer, but wanted her answer first.

At that time there was Tr Pluto and Tr Nessus on her DNA/ANgel, opposing her NEssus/Dejanira with Tr NN also transiting Pluto. *shudders*

posted November 01, 2010 06:15 AM            

I see some things there that indicate strong psychic gifts.

But I see a real danger, also, to be "targeted" spiritually and physically, if you know what I mean.

I mean that Kaali in pisces, even though it is in a Grand trine with Atlantis / NN and Angel / DNA- I don`t know *shaking head*
It is still connected to that nasty opposition to the Nessus/Dejanira-conjunction.
Abuse is a real danger, and it has happened, though my friend was strong enough to walk away from both abusive relationships (her boyfriend of some years AND her whole family, actually she cut ties with them all; alcoholic psychologically abusive mother who accused her of having ruined her life, because she was the child of another man, not her stepfather; a stepfather who was rather calm, but indifferent; and both her siblings actually tried to kill (drown) her repeatedly when being children; anyway at once point she just cut all ties with them, just as she walked away from her boyfriend who would beat the crap out of her - she never even once complained about her life though! I think she has found a lot of inner strength to do that, and I contribute it a little bit to that Angel-asteroid watching over her ).

ASC on Sirius as I just see.

posted November 01, 2010 06:58 AM              

I wonder if she did something really bad in a past life, possibly atlantis (?) and now she is living out the karma from it

I don't know DD, that nessus/Dejanira on 29th opposing DNA on 29th scorpio is just violently negative

posted November 01, 2010 07:19 AM              

KEYNOTE: The personal display of inherited gifts.

A great person able to display a multitude of gifts is always, at one level or another, the consummation of a long past of efforts and victories. As a great occultist once wrote: "Adepts are the flowering of their races and cultures." The peacock is the bird consecrated to Venus; in occult tradition the Promethean Spirits who gave to animal mankind the divine gift of self-conscious intelligence had come from "Venus" — which may or may not refer to the physical planet we can observe in the sky.

This is the final symbol of the fourth scene, whose Keyword has been given as "Confirmation." This peacock symbol indeed confirms the social status of the owner of the ancestral estate. It indicates a CONSUMMATION of individual efforts; and it suggests that such a consummation is hardly possible except when a line of "ancestors" — biological or spiritual — forms its base.

posted November 01, 2010 07:24 AM              

KEYNOTE: The periodic outlets society furnishes within traditional limits to still-immature energies.

In the symbol for the first degree of Scorpio we see individuals beginning to be involved in the collective life of a large city. This leads them to a great diversity of experience which stimulates their sense of belonging to a vaster whole; or it may stimulate their rebellious instincts. Some of the latter in most cases cannot be completely overcome, but society has built in several ways of allowing them to operate under ritualistic procedures that are sufficiently safe to the collectivity. Wherever this symbol is found, the need for such outlets is shown to exist. But the rules of the game have to be obeyed.

This is the last symbol referring to Scene Sixteen of the great ritual of cyclic being. It tells us that in any feeling experience of collective living and inter-human relationships one has to deal with unregenerated and centrifugal elements. These should be carefully managed. They can also be controlled by the power of mind – the Sagitarrian way. The symbol points to an imaginative RELIEF FROM TENSION.

posted November 01, 2010 09:42 AM            

We know clearly that Nessus conj Dejanira will indicate getting abused in life. ANGEL conjunct DNA is opposing this so there is a likely pattern of abusing genetic codes in a past lifeline that led to severe consequences in the present. The bad karma on her part is indicated by Saturn opp Mars exact. Where could she have committed the crime? Looks like the abuse is related to Pleiades as Nessu and Dejanira are conjunct Pleiades exact.

She is a "Fallen Angel" and she is likely to redeem herself by sacrifice of personal happiness [Venus in Anaretic degree of 6th].
ANGEL trines North Node, she will succeed, and will probably do more good to make up for the harmful acts.

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posted November 01, 2010 03:40 PM            

"Did she corrupt her DNA along the way?"
No clue, really.

"I'm reading these sabian meanings and wondering if she's broken a thread or a cord through occult practices"
What do you mean by "breaking a thread or cord"?

But yes I agree with IQ and you that this chart looks scary regarding occult practices or black magic, though I can say that she doesn`t have anything to do with it at all in this life.

"Can you put up her sn persona chart and 7th harmonic?"
Yeah, the SN persona probably, maybe also Karma-persona.
But why 7th harmonic?

her Destinn is on 14.43 Scorpio conjunct Neptune,
squaring Karma and Mars and Sun and SAturn.
trine Jupiter and ASC.

Speaking of Atlantis, it is of course possible. I think we may have known each other back then.

Her Dr Atlantis is on 27.37 Pisces and her Kaali on 27.00 Pisces
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conjunct my Dr ASC on 26.51 Pisces
conjunct my Dr Angel on 27.21 Pisces
conjunct my Dr Atlantis on 28.05 PIsces

conjunct my tropical Artemis on 27.10 Pisces

trine my tropical Valentine on 27.32 Pisces

trine her tropical Atlantis on 27.17 Cancer

her Dr Kaali on 27.19 Scorpio

conjunct my tropical Valentine on 27.32 Scorpio

(and of course trines the Pisces-stellium)

posted November 01, 2010 03:43 PM              

I think your friend has, in a past life or several past lives, really messed up her DNA through Occult magic. She has done this by breaking or damaging a thread/cord - thats what i'm seeing when l access her through you! Anyway, l don't want to access her anymore in truth because l did it when l wrote that msg and i've spent the rest of the day really aggressive and irritated from her energy.

posted November 01, 2010 04:02 PM            

Quickly after becoming friends both our spiritual developments started, though I am more actively pursuing it; she is more careful and not at all wanting to explore this beyond some "degrees".

But I guess I am the only one she can talk to about some spiritual experiences.

"She is a "Fallen Angel" and she is likely to redeem herself by sacrifice of personal happiness [Venus in Anaretic degree of 6th]."
Yes, I think that is very true.

"ANGEL trines North Node, she will succeed, and will probably do more good to make up for the harmful acts."
Though she of course do not recall any harmful acts, that is one of her "principles" in life, doing good in her everyday life as often as she can.

Interestingly her birthchart is the SOUTH NODE persona chart of Paul. Now that is a shocker, isn`t it?

posted November 01, 2010 04:20 PM            

And this her KARMA persona chart

posted November 01, 2010 07:01 PM              

KARMA PERSONA DNA still on same degree as natal chart and ONLY aspect it makes is SQUARE DEJANIRA which is CJ AC/ATLANTIS!
hmmm l think there is your most obvious answer

posted November 02, 2010 03:53 AM            

But then again, it`s a new life and she is making her best of it now.

posted November 02, 2010 08:27 AM            

fire place hunting sounds interesting. do you need an arrow and bow for this?

Anyway, I DO think that energies can affect me; I am pretty sensitive.
But I also know that it is my choice how much I allow anything to affect me.

Anything can have only the amount of power over me, that I allow it to have. (I try to stay aware of that).

We do not need to dissect her Persona charts. Maybe it`s best to let her chart rest.

Besides now I am more interested what you would be seeing in my south node persona.
It does look a little bit scary or intense or I don`t know what to me, too, with its prominent Kaali.

Would you have a look at it for me?

posted November 02, 2010 10:59 AM            

Of course now I just checked out only this not angles but as well interesting.