posted October 31, 2010 04:43 PM         

Are there other fellow knowflakes with hard aspects btw Venus/Saturn (or Moon/Saturn)that ALWAYS seem to suffer these aspect in every love relation? =S

Actually I have T-Square btw Moon/Sat and Venus.

It's karma,
I understand!
But jeez...:S

I'm happy with my boyfriend actually.
But we do have little troubles.

And I just look back at my relationships and I notice same pattern: I'm always the Venus or Moon- with a Saturn that puts a dump to my love expression.

posted October 31, 2010 04:52 PM         

he's also a libra.. his aspects im not sure of but there is a huge distance between them even though they live in the same home.. there is such a cold, icy feeling that comes from her and he, he's just passive and resentful as hell.... he takes out his frustrations doing house work and stuff and she seems to be ok with it.

on occasion there is the feeling that they've just had a fight (because sun conjunct uranus is immediately the first to jump up and declare something unfair... or they're the first to scream or throw a fit or something.. i don't know what to call it.. watch modern family.. sofia vergara, has the square and that's pretty much the aspect when it's in conjunction to the sun or opp/square) but then not a second later she's laughing off her own behavior as if nothing just happened and everything was ok and both even kiss and smile before they're off in their own thing doing whatever in the same house...... it's very weird and unsettling. personally, i don't like it because her sun/uranus opposes my mars....

posted October 31, 2010 04:58 PM         

My first marriage DW saturn venus
My second marriage my saturn conj his venus.
My both marriage have saturn hard aspect in also composite.

posted October 31, 2010 06:21 PM         

When I was very young I had relationships I thought were pretty happy. Then I had a relationship that lasted almost 15 years. I left it, and I've been single for about 3 years now, and it's been so very, very miserable. I hate it! And I'm really finally losing hope. Even though I'm a Leo Sun and we really like being happy. Those three years have been a string of one-sided things (unprecedented before then--I'm a hot Leo lol!), and things that hurt me.

With my Moon-Saturn, it's like anything that would nurture me and make me feel loving and loved emotionall (Moon), I protect myself against (Saturn)...and it's like my love for people just HURTS me.

My relationship that ended a month ago (he ended it, we had only been together 5 months) really hurt me and I am mourning it.

I wish I could truly love myself and feel an abundance of love instead of scarcity. But I just feel loss, pain, rejection, grief, and lack right now.

posted October 31, 2010 07:23 PM         

saturn/NN/venus/moon all in 8th house
I have no idea what it does to be honest LOL

posted October 31, 2010 08:03 PM         

It would seem that it is of my own design to protect me from broken heartedness. People detect that I expect decent treatment or they can forget it - and I think this doesn't enable them to dabble so easily. Those that are motivated for a relationship with me are either looking for an experience ie. something 5th housish or looking for a mother, and they get cranky when I don't accommodate. I am not light hearted in love matters sad to say.

Duke, I think you are right - which makes me think that there is an underlying disappointment in Saturn-Moon/Venus with their choice of partner. Pointing to probably an underlying dissatisfaction with themselves possibly for not feeling good enough to keep someone that they really would love as a partner or being able to accept someone if they are not their ideal. So I think they (me) just make others miserable around them (me - oops).

Popcorn, I too attract Saturn-Venus synastry. Hard aspects and conjunctions. There is often an element where I feel sorry for the person but then again, my Saturn is in Pisces, conjunct Chiron.

Lara, so when the other person's planets make close aspects to your moon/saturn/venus it also aspects your north node - does that mean you are still learning the lessons of the south node, perhaps?

Lucia23, I feel sorry that you are sad and miserable, is your moon in Cancer too? Cancer moons feel so deeply and get a hard road with emotions. It is even worse when you have a Leo sun, I have a daughter with Leo sun/Cancer, Moon/Venus trine Saturn,and Pluto, and opposing Uranus/Neptune. She gets sad over relationships - I think she will find things difficult too, but hopefully will be ok.

If your Moon/Saturn is late Cancer then you may be affected by the current neptune/chiron transit to late aquarius and the Uranus/Jupiter transit in late pisces.

If it is in early cancer you may have the pluto opposition or elsewhere in cancer the Saturn transit in Libra might be squaring. Early cancer will have been having some effect from a square with the Uranus/Jupiter transit.

AG, you say you don't ever really think about it. I wonder if it is more felt by the women in your life?

posted November 01, 2010 01:28 AM         

For me, when I think about Saturn making hard contacts, I generally think about my Saturn opposite my chart-ruler, because that's something I can readily identify with.

I just read an interp for this placement, and I can see it. I guess I generally attribute that sort of thing (feelings of unworthiness in the love arena) to my Moon in Virgo. Still, it doesn't really freak me out. I don't feel unlovable overall. I have every reason to feel appreciated by many, and can even bank on my popularity in multiple areas of my life. Maybe Venus conjunct Neptune in the 7th helps with that.

Some things are awkward in love, and I'll admit to not walking into true intimacy quickly. I guess I want to see if a potential mate is going to stick around awhile before I get too invested. It's partly just the way I do things. I want things drawn out, because that's how they're going to be in my life. If a woman sticks it out, there will be a ring on her finger eventually. It shouldn't take more than a few years, but I think it takes one year just to get used to being in a relationship with someone. In that respect, I identify with this aspect.

posted November 01, 2010 03:41 AM         

I guess I never really thought that the women in your life would experience the aspect other than the fact that you said you never thought about it and I coupled this with the significance of Venus generally in a man's chart.

posted November 01, 2010 08:29 PM         

The Duke- I never wanted to get married or have children. And everytime i say this people look at me like I'm crazy.
(just because one is supposed to follow traditional structure?- why all women should dream about the prince charming and becoming a mother?)

I dont want neither. I want freedom and travelling the world

I'm an Aquarius rising and Uranus in the 10th- so people just think- well, yeah, she's weird :P
And I am.
lmao.

Popcorn- I love what you said: "Saturn tests everythings in life!- Patience is the right word". Very nice.. thank you.

I need patience =) I'm very impulsive and jump to conclusions sometimes..

Lara- Oh! North Node as well in the 8th house! woah.:O must be pretty intense.

Lucia23- dont lose hope!- Saturn does not deny fulfilling love. It'll arrive sooner or later. So keep your chin up.

I can totally relate to what you said about your love for people hurts you.
I always go under the same thing. That's why sometimes I just crave isolation. Like- love feels like a burden to me -sometimes- when I feel very bad- I just want to be alone and focus on my hobbies.

I realize- I associate love with pain and trouble.

However I understand- that no matter how much every experience you encounter hurts you- at the end you grow stronger and wiser.
And there's actually nothing more beautiful than being in love- even if it ends up hurting, love is really what makes the world go round.

AcousticGod- Haha! I like you dont really ever think about it =)

Letram- Oh another fellow moon/venus saturn T-Square!.

I have also Venus trine Uranus. So it does help to move on and be more lighthearted about love =)

Chryseis- glad you like the thread! =) I try to protect myself as well. I'm a Cancer sun after all :O

I think my problem is that the kind of men I seem to be attracted to- are not expressive or loving enough as I need.
They are kind of aloof. Ironic is they always have some sort of artistic/creative talent- but they lack sensitivity with me I guess. But the heart does not listen to reason- so if I fall in love- (like my current boyfriend) with a sagittarian and virgo mooner I cannot expect great (and constant) demonstrations of love like I NEED to feel loved. =P

posted November 01, 2010 09:21 PM         

aspects to venus show what were attracted to and flavour that venus sign with other values from other planets.

so some one with Venus-saturn will have capricorn/saturanian desires and values.

this also means the venus person LOVES WITH saturn.

saturn is the opposite of the moon, the moon cares, takes care of. the mother.

saturn si the father, saturn shows care in a different way: responsibility, this is why it comes accross authortarian, cold sometimes, because saturn strives to be responsible, like a parent. being responsible is how it takes 'care' of things.

so if you meet a saturn-venus lover, you might experience coldness from them, their saturn burdens them to be and feel very responsible with their lover i think.

and when they love they may love quite coldly or quietly, but i believe this isa subconscious thing, saturn is trying to make them 'responsible' for their lover and be mature. their way oftaking care.

its hard to explain but thats how i see it.

posted November 01, 2010 09:52 PM         

jk

posted November 01, 2010 10:09 PM         

I just feel completely unloved unless the one man I feel in love with at the time is with me. Right now, having been left a month ago, I feel 100% miserable, and all the wonderful things to be grateful for in my life don't feel like enough. it's like a major sense of scarcity instead of abundance.

posted November 10, 2010 12:55 AM         

If your Moon is conjunct your Saturn, does it always or usually play out as--"the things that comfort you also make you very uncomfortable"? Or is that just my placements?

posted November 10, 2010 03:05 AM         

moon square,opp, conj saturn follow the rule of life. Test makes people strong. I love change and the challange in the life.