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Ami Anne
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posted November 07, 2010 08:07 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message
He is a Cap ASC with Saturn on the MC. I think he is a wonderful blend of warmth(Cancer SN),generousity(Leo Moon), strength(Aries Sun),
being able to combine ego with heart(Sun trine moon) and depth(Chiron near the ASC)
From what I can see and I am not that good, as you know, he seems like a special man.

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posted November 07, 2010 09:52 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message
Is Moon conjunct Pluto not "good" cuz the emotions (moon) are too close to the Id/primal drive (Pluto)?
Could this make an explosive person? Could he not be able to control his emotions cuz Pluto is too close?

If this were in the 7th house, how does it affect the conjunction?

Is he this way with a partner but perhaps not in other settings?

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posted November 07, 2010 09:59 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message
After we finish dissecting him,Nicki, why don't you put your mother's chart on ?

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posted November 07, 2010 11:01 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for PlutoSquared     Edit/Delete Message
Ami,

Yes, you absolutely broke it down the way I did:

Is Moon conjunct Pluto not "good" cuz the emotions (moon) are too close to the Id/primal drive (Pluto)?
Could this make an explosive person? Could he not be able to control his emotions cuz Pluto is too close?

And, when you add the 7th house into the mix: If this were in the 7th house, how does it affect the conjunction?

I would assume this is where this energy manifests - inside of his sector of partnership. So, maybe the recipients are his partners. Sometimes I will go even as far as to say that Pluto conjunct Moon (as cancerian, motherly, and female energy - I see as the female recipient) inside of partnership... so this could result in all kinds of explosive energy being directed towards the woman.

Is he this way with a partner but perhaps not in other settings?

If there are no other aspects to these planets, perhaps. But, I'd reference the chart... are there trines, sextiles, squares, oppositions to other planets (and in what houses). I'll read these aspects and the way they interact for further story.

Note: look towards the squares and oppositions to give you "the word on the street" about the person.

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posted November 07, 2010 11:50 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for PlutoSquared     Edit/Delete Message
Yeah, I don't like that guy. With the quincunx to the Pisces Mercury and the Square to Mars in the 12th house... Also Neptune oppositions to sun...

Saturn in the 9th in Scorpio

This guy seems deceptive, with a lot of hidden anger and aggression, tinged with some philosophical issues where karmic work needs to be done in the "energy of scorpio".

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posted November 07, 2010 11:53 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for PlutoSquared     Edit/Delete Message
Also a guy that will talk a lot about love, be very sweet and consistent seeming with the way he expresses love but is opposed to it philosophically...

Saturn in 9th (scorpio) opposition Venus in 3rd (taurus)

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posted November 07, 2010 12:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PlutoSquared     Edit/Delete Message
There's a severance in the energies of the chart... Where the sweet, understanding and loving energy of Pisces in Mercury operates...

While the Moon in Leo in 7th operates under the influence of Pluto...

Just watch out... this guy could really turn out to be a jerk.

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posted November 07, 2010 12:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message
Man PS
When I come back, can I ask you some questions. You are really good!

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posted November 07, 2010 12:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PlutoSquared     Edit/Delete Message
Ami,

Thanks. And, yes you can ask as many questions as you want.

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posted November 07, 2010 12:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message
Thank you, Pluto Squared !


Nicki
Could you put the little chart up so we can see how close the orbs are?
Thank you

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posted November 07, 2010 04:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for NickiG     Edit/Delete Message
wow...i just got back on and WOW, lots of replies courtesy of PS and ami, lol

and PS, which one are you talking about? Pop?

anyway, i'll get the other charts up ASAP so you can see the orbs

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posted November 07, 2010 04:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message
Nicki
You should show PS a picture of Pop to cinch the deal

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posted November 07, 2010 04:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for NickiG     Edit/Delete Message
ok, the first one is Bruce, the new guy



and the second is Pop, the devil


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posted November 07, 2010 08:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PlutoSquared     Edit/Delete Message
NickiG,

How long have you known "Bruce"?

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posted November 07, 2010 09:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message
PS
I see the Saturn oppose Venus and the Mars square Mercury.
However, he has some awesome trines, don't you think?
he has sun trine moon, Mars trine the moon/pluto conjunction.
*I* am asking you cuz you are better than I am?
How do you figure his many good trines in here?

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posted November 07, 2010 09:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PlutoSquared     Edit/Delete Message
You make a good point about "redeeming" aspects... but there aren't really great ones to either venus or moon...

Those would be ones I would want to see, considering the other heavy and potentially explosive ones...

And, no AMI, you are just as good as me... you read charts VERY well.

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posted November 07, 2010 09:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message
Thank you ,PS.
I aspire ,one day, to be like the people who can make someone 3 D from the charts.
That is awesome to watch

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posted November 07, 2010 09:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message
OK ,PS,so you are looking at Venus and the Moon, in particular cuz these need to "work" to be good in a relationship, right???

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posted November 07, 2010 09:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PlutoSquared     Edit/Delete Message
Yeah, and they give a good idea of how the individual processes things emotionally and romantically.

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posted November 07, 2010 10:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for NickiG     Edit/Delete Message
i dont know bruce too well, but my mom and him have known each other for many years

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posted November 07, 2010 10:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PlutoSquared     Edit/Delete Message
NickiG,

Was Bruce ever married before? What happened with his other partners? And, lastly, are they together, now?

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posted November 07, 2010 10:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for NickiG     Edit/Delete Message
bruce is married now but his wife is terminally ill

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Early in the morning, in the middle of the night
Two men got up to fight
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posted November 07, 2010 10:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PlutoSquared     Edit/Delete Message
Are you sure his birth info is correct? Otherwise, I'm outta advice...

Perhaps the Pluto conjunct Moon means losing a partner to death... that's definitely "Plutotile" (yeah, just made that up).

Otherwise, I'm stumped on the other aspects...

Does he get along with his sick wife?

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posted November 07, 2010 10:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for NickiG     Edit/Delete Message
its as correct as he gave it to me and yea, he gets along with her, but like i said shes super sick

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posted November 07, 2010 10:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PlutoSquared     Edit/Delete Message
So, is this chart up because Bruce and your mom will get together after his wife passes away?

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