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NickiG
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posted November 05, 2010 07:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for NickiG     Edit/Delete Message
ok, many of you dont know, but my mom just dropped who we call "the devil"...he is that horrid of a man and she got herself a new man...ami and i are gonna look at this chart and anyone can pop in if you want....i really like this chart

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Ami Anne
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posted November 05, 2010 07:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message
I am gonna study it in the next few days. The first thing I see ,though,is Chiron near the ASC.
This is usually a person of depth and understanding,if I am right.
This person would be the opposite of a shallow,surface type of person.

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Ami Anne
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posted November 05, 2010 07:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message
My thinking cap went to sleep for a while. I can't wait to study it ,later, Nicki .

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posted November 05, 2010 08:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for electricmind     Edit/Delete Message
if i may add my 2 cents...

this guys seems to be quite macho and maybe a bit entitled if he hasn't mellowed out with age. he appears to be stable and responsible but on the inside or perhaps in reality he is all over the place. surely quite talented, social, charmer and an excellent communicator.

he relies heavily on his partner to boost his ego and give him a sense of self.

he may lash out and be quite temperamental at times, but deep down he is very generous and can be some what of a softy.

he is sensual and i think he may be a really good cook or at least love food and have a taste for the good things in life and seeks to provide that for his mate and himself.

that is all

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Ami Anne
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posted November 05, 2010 08:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message
Please explain HOW you get your insight ,Electric, if you could?
I would love to learn .

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posted November 05, 2010 08:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for electricmind     Edit/Delete Message
of course, dear ami

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this guys seems to be quite macho and maybe a bit entitled if he hasn't mellowed out with age.

Aries Sun/Leo Moon


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he appears to be stable and responsible...
Capricorn rising

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but on the inside or perhaps in reality he is all over the place.
Saturn (chart ruler) in the 9th (mutable) house

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surely quite talented, social, charmer and an excellent communicator.
Sun in the 3rd house, venus in the 3rd house

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he relies heavily on his partner to boost his ego and give him a sense of self.
Moon in leo in the 7th house, conjunct pluto

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he may lash out and be quite temperamental at times, but deep down he is very generous and can be some what of a softy.

mars in the 12th=house misdirected anger and an inabilitiy to recognize anger or what to do with it
moon in leo (conjunct pluto)=a strong sense of entitlement and can be egotistical and temperamental
sun in aries=they are babies at heart

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he is sensual and i think he may be a really good cook or at least love food and have a taste for the good things in life and seeks to provide that for his mate and himself.

venus in taurus=sensual, love of things period. moon in leo is going to prefer nice things and seek them out through partnership or offer them to his partner (7th house)

mars in capricorn= again very sensual. have an eye for value. steadfast and understated at times.

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Ami Anne
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posted November 05, 2010 08:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message
Thank you Electric
I am gonna study it ,later

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NickiG
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posted November 05, 2010 10:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for NickiG     Edit/Delete Message
i knew there was a reason i dont like that mars in 12th....

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Ami Anne
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posted November 06, 2010 02:10 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message
Maybe PDF will weigh in on it. He can make a 3D person come alive from a chart.

I am at the stage where I can see separate parts but far from the place where the chart can become alive like that lol

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posted November 06, 2010 02:36 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lonake     Edit/Delete Message
A lil too Drama King-ish, for me, but,
in the right hands any man can turn to gold.

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Ami Anne
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posted November 06, 2010 07:11 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message
I am gonna come back and forth ,today, and look at it.
I just wanted to say something that IQ told me.
He said that the law of love can overcome astrological aspects.
Love is a higher octave, you could say,like a Grand Karate master next to a moderate Karate man.
My children had black belts in Karate. When the Grand Master demonstrated ,it was awe inspiring.
Once he had 15 bricks piled up and he did a Karate chop through them all.

If I have IQ right, this gave me a peace.
There are synastry aspects which worry you.
It is never hopeless cuz you have higher laws to access.

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Ami Anne
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posted November 06, 2010 07:13 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message
You know what would be interesting, Nicki?
To see the "devils" chart.
We would not spend much time on it cuz he is gone

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Ami Anne
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posted November 06, 2010 07:13 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message
You know what would be interesting, Nicki?
To see the "devils" chart.
We would not spend much time on it cuz he is gone

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NickiG
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posted November 06, 2010 12:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for NickiG     Edit/Delete Message
heres the "devils" chart...i dont have his exact time, but i did the closest thing we could figure out...we think he was born in the morning time, sun shining and everything, so i said 8 am, and it somewhat makes sense because it would put mercury in the 12th house and he studders a lot

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Ami Anne
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posted November 06, 2010 12:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message
Thanks ,Nicki
I will look ,later.

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NickiG
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posted November 06, 2010 12:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for NickiG     Edit/Delete Message
ami, i bet you could talk to yourself all day long..LOL

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Early in the morning, in the middle of the night
Two men got up to fight
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NickiG
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posted November 06, 2010 12:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for NickiG     Edit/Delete Message
i'm thinking the time is really close and that the sun may actually be in the 12th because my mom thinks he may have multiple personality disorder, pibolar disorder, schizophrenic, or something

he is always lying, trying to cheat people out of money, he turns things around to make it your fault instead of his, then he doesnt remember his lies, or so he says, he cant keep a story straight, he dissappears for a week at a time and comes home and lays on the couch for the whole weekend and complains that the house isnt clean or the dishes arnt washed, he told everyone he knows that he bought our house even though he has no money, and it just goes on and on

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Early in the morning, in the middle of the night
Two men got up to fight
Back to back they faced each other, drew their swords and shot each other
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NickiG
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posted November 06, 2010 02:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for NickiG     Edit/Delete Message
ok, this is super off topic, but this song is stuck in my head and i just wanted to share it with everyone, lol

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y8xkuOQ3H9o&p=C898F177340CAB33&playnext=1&index=11

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Early in the morning, in the middle of the night
Two men got up to fight
Back to back they faced each other, drew their swords and shot each other
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posted November 06, 2010 05:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PlutoSquared     Edit/Delete Message
New guy (bruce) has Pluto conjunct Moon in 7th house! Watch out!

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NickiG
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posted November 06, 2010 05:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for NickiG     Edit/Delete Message
nvm....

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Early in the morning, in the middle of the night
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Ami Anne
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posted November 07, 2010 06:29 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message
Pluto Squared
Please explain your reasoning about PLuto conjunct moon in the 7th

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Ami Anne
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posted November 07, 2010 06:34 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message
I have come up with a few things,Nicki. Tell me if they fit.
He has Sun in Aries the 3rd house. He is very communicative.
He has moon trine Sun.This is VERY good ,particularly for a guy, cuz his ego and his heart are on the same page.
He does not have that split that many people have between their ego and their heart.
I picture him as a warm communicative man.

Also, he has a Leo moon which defines warm, demonstrative, generous and open hearted.
This is my favorite moon,by far.

They have a childlike wonder and openness .
It is an Out of bounds moon which makes it stronger, even.
He is a very loving and warm man.

Uranus in the 6th may have given him career upheavel. Is that true?

He has NN in Cap and SN in Cancer.

This, further, indicates he is a warm, nurturing, emotive man.
He has "mastered" Cancer(SN) and needs to master Capricorn.
So, he is comfortable with the Cancer energy.

I will be back to look more later.
How does that sound so far?

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Ami Anne
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posted November 07, 2010 06:39 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message
NN is the 12 house and SN in the 6th. He is comfortable with service/work but not so mych with his subconscious/unconscious.
He needs to go deeper within to find out his deepest ,hidden parts.
That is his challenge with a NN in the 12th.

He has Mars here and it is in Cap. The 12th is a Mars whose drive is turned inward so he is not overtly aggressive,more passive aggresive.
However, I think Mars in the 12th can be a sweet man who is afraid of his anger.

We ALL have issues.

If you have to throw someone away cuz of issues, you would have no one, right

So far, he seems like a warm,loving guy.
I will be back

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Ami Anne
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posted November 07, 2010 07:50 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message
He has Saturn conjunct the MC. I am gonna look that up.
I think that may be a hard relationship with the mother or finding it hard/feeling insecure about finding a place you fit with others/society.

If this is the right explanation , then this combined with the Chiron near the ASC makes a deep person who has had to work on pain.

From the rest of the chart, it looks like he expressed his pain through empathy and depth rather than outward in hostility and anger.

I have to look up Saturn conjunct MC though cuz I could be wrong on that lol

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posted November 07, 2010 07:52 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message
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Saturn (seriousness, responsibility) conjunct MC (outside world, public, fame, career) can mean that Saturn person's seriousness merges with MC person's public direction. In positive way, Saturn person can help the MC person to become more serious, responsible in their public image and career, and the MC person can also admire the Saturn person. In a negative way, Saturn person might limit the MC person and become too restrictive to him/her, thinking that the MC person is not responsible or serious enough. It depends on the rest of the chart and how the natal charts are. ^

This was from a post from Comica

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