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Lucia23
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posted November 07, 2010 02:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lucia23     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well, this is embarrassing, because I've been a casual student of astrology for years, but--How do you read solar arcs?

How do you find them on astro.com? I found something, but it didn't make any sense and I wasn't able to compare it to my natal, or use it in synastries, etc...

I'm lost and confused--help!

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posted November 07, 2010 03:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MyVirgoMask     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Lucia I am still learning too

On astro.com in the extended section there's the prognostics choice for transits, progressions, and solar arcs combined.
The blue writing/symbols are solar arcs on the chart, the red are the transits I think, and the green are progressions.

If you click and get the pdf format of the 3 charts/lists, it does a natal comparison with each method. With solar arcs, you only look at hard aspects and yes that includes the quincunx. when the aspects are applying is when they are at their strongest. They begin to wane when they are separating because SA is apparently very specific with its energies. And it won't show up in the list until it is very close to the natal.

Aspects and stuff on the angles is the strongest. I'd look at angle rulers as well, to be sure. And to the NN/SN as well.

That's what I've learned so far...still learning. I learned from Geo Cosmic's old posts and several other people as well. It's complex and I think astro.com doesn't list all the aspects always.

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posted November 07, 2010 03:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MyVirgoMask     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
cont'd...

As for how to read them, well i think this is where the real research is involved (read: detective work lol...it's hard to find SA stuff on the internet sometimes) and also looking even on like the noel tyl forum or articles. I think it's hard to tell but sometimes also putting it up here you might get lucky and those who know will help (I will try with the little bit I know) and esp if you're lucky then Ms Geo will respond if she's around.

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posted November 07, 2010 03:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for raspberri     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Solar Arcs and Progressions are highlighting areas of your birth chart that you are destined to live through.

For example P Venus conjunct N Sun shows that year is what Love is going to be in our life. It's basically highlighting LOVE in your LIFE referring to what happens in that year.

That's how I see it.

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posted November 07, 2010 03:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MyVirgoMask     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have progressed sun on my N Venus for years but I've read that only when it gets really close, it begins to kick in but I have no idea. It's like 2 degrees away now.

I honestly don't know how I feel about progressions any more since they move so damn sloooooow :/

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posted November 07, 2010 03:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for raspberri     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yeah you wont realllllly feel it until its exact.

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posted November 07, 2010 03:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for popcorn     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Tomorrow my PR venus 10,43 in leo conj my AC 10,43 in leo and my sun 10,47 in leo.

My SA venus 13,11 in leo conj my Draconic neptun 13,36 in leo.

My PR AC 9,11 conj my DC ruler uranus 8,33 and kaali 9,27 in virgo.

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posted November 07, 2010 04:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lucia23     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks!

Do you find solar arcs and progressions more revealing than transits about what will happen when?

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posted November 07, 2010 04:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MyVirgoMask     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Lucia, for me, yes, I have found the arcs telling. Progressions not so much EXCEPT when they are going into critical degrees
esp on the angles. Even then tho it's more of an internal change.

When I had a lot going on a few years back I looked at the arcs and there was a staggering amount of activity to my natal.
We're talking a ridiculous amount of crap, from marriage, divorce, illness and death, to relocation, publication, and travel. All squeezed into about 3 years...and it was showing up.

The past couple of years there's not been much going on in the arcs for me and it's almost giving me a chance to 'get over' the prior few years lol. There's some stuff but you know, when there's a lot of activity I've noticed it's amazingly accurate and DOES show up in what's going on in life.


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posted November 07, 2010 04:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DD     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I find that SA and PR generally indicate a theme for a certain timeperiod, but that transits are like timers, indicating when this an event in the frame of the theme will kick in.

For example:
a person has SA or Pr Venus on their Sun - this will be valid for a year or some months at least. Now it is not likely that she will fall in love every day of that period (of course Venus on Sun could also have different meanings; I am aware of that).

Usually when she falls in love (under such progressions or directions), there will be a strong trigger by transit, too.

I am not exactly certain yet, if that trigger has to touch the progessed / directed planets directly, or if other transits will work, too, but I would think it is likely that a "direct hit" occurs. Something like Tr Sun transiting over the degree where the Progressed or directed Venus conjunct natal Sun are sitting.


I will let you know if, I am going to fall in love on 28th december; at that time Tr Sun will be exact conjunct my Venus and also conjunct my pr ASC (the orb is one degree though).

Funnily enough I am going to be on a concert of the guy, I have had a little bit of a crush on 2 years ago.
lol

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posted November 07, 2010 04:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lucia23     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hmm, I'm trying to check mine out for right now and it looks kind of Neptune-y: SA MC conjunct my Neptune, SA Neptune just past my ASC.

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posted November 07, 2010 04:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DD     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I really hope that my Solar Arcs are not that clearly felt, as they are pretty horrid for the next months.

SA Neptune and SA NN both being exactly opposite my Saturn.

When I had that in the transits it signalled the most depressing, darkest, saddest, loneliest period in my life, in which I basically lost everything I ever believed in.
Of course today I know that it was necessary to crush some illusions and face reality, but really I clearly can do without the excruciating pain and numbness.
No not again.


Yet I know from experience that SA work quite well.

When SA Mars was conjunct my Venus, I met a guy and there was some flirting going on. It didnīt lead to a relationship, but surely gave my confidence a boost.
His natal Sun was exactly conjunct my Venus. lol

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posted November 07, 2010 04:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lioness     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Weird..... Saturn is transiting my 7th right now, and Solar Arc Saturn is dead on my SN..

I dont even want to talk about it...

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posted November 07, 2010 04:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DD     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Lioness,

that is funny, cause my SA SN is on my Saturn currently.

Nah, let`s not talk about it.

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posted November 07, 2010 05:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MyVirgoMask     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I've noticed when I was about to marry that Neptune was doing a lot. Granted it is in my 7th house. Also Jupiter was all over the place, but it's the apex of my tsquare and conj my MC. So I really feel like the angle rulers or planets which are IN the angles would mean something.

Lucia, how long have you been out of your long term relationship, and do you feel you two might get back together at all??
Also, are you a Cappy rising or Cancer rising? I'm wondering which house has Neptune in it.


I was reading that SA hard aspects which are read are not bad. Like you don't read a SA Pluto square natal Venus as you would in normal transit, because supposedly in the SAs the hard aspects just mean action, not negative. I will say tho that SA Saturn was sq my natal Mars until a few months ago and I was feeling like I was spinning my wheels and refocusing as far as work goes. Once it moved off, I had a better idea of what to do, so hm.........

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posted November 07, 2010 05:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lucia23     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
http://celticspread.com/content/5-solar-arcs-almost-always-suggest-romance

(1) Solar Arc Venus conjuncts/opposes/squares Sun;
(2) Solar Arc Venus conjuncts/opposes/squares Ascendant;
(3) Solar Arc Venus conjuncts/opposes/squares Midheaven;
(4) Solar Arc Sun conjuncts/opposes/squares Venus;
(5) Solar Arc Venus conjuncts/opposes/squares 7th House Ruler;

Hmm...at the start of my last relationship, neither of us had these aspects. At the start of my (almost 15 year) relationship with my ex, I had SAMoon (my 7th house ruler) conjunct my natal Venus, but he didn't have any "new love relationship" aspects.

So I'm not sure how accurate this is.

What SA aspects did you have at the start of major love relationships?

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posted November 07, 2010 05:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MyVirgoMask     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
oops never mind LOL

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posted November 07, 2010 05:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MyVirgoMask     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Lucia, asides from the typical 'love' stuff, what other SAs were going on? I didn't have the traditional romance stuff either in the SA when I met my ex husband.

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posted November 07, 2010 05:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lioness     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
DD.. DEAL!!!
Lets not and say we did..

I checked my other SA... yikes

SA vertex on my 8th cusp
T.Saturn on SA Mars
SA Asc conjunt Natal Chiron
SA Uranus conjunt N. Lilith (looking side to side)

There's more but blahhh.. I dont wanna talk about it....

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posted November 07, 2010 05:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lucia23     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
MVM, should I look at the day(s) we first met, or the days we first hooked up?

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posted November 07, 2010 05:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lucia23     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Lucia, how long have you been out of your long term relationship, and do you feel you two might get back together at all??
Also, are you a Cappy rising or Cancer rising? I'm wondering which house has Neptune in it.

I'm Cappy Rising, AC at 5 degrees, 48' Cap.

I ended my long-term relationship with the Libra almost four years ago. It was rocky/should've ended three years before that. We are very close friends, too involved still really, and I am worried no one else will ever love me, but I don't want to get back together.

The Aries (who I was with for only 5 months) ended things on September 29. I would love to get back with him, but we haven't talked at all. I seriously doubt it's gonna happen. That day there was a FUN TSat-Sun conjunction conjunct my Pluto at 5 Libra, squaring my AC/DC. (The Aries is also a Cap rising.)

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posted November 07, 2010 05:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MyVirgoMask     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Just around the time you guys hooked, up Lucia. Even a couple of months before then. I'm positive there was stuff going on, even if it's not typical romantic.
For me it was Moon and Jupiter. Also Neptune and Mars. Later and closer to marriage it was Neptune and NN, Jupiter on NN, stuff like that.
But the Jupiter and Neptune is really fitting for my chart. I think it goes according to what's going to trigger you, not always what is considered symbolically romantic. Otherwise for me it never would've shown up at all.

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posted November 07, 2010 05:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MyVirgoMask     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I know you'll find someone who loves you just as much if not more (and you will feel the same)

You might want to look at SAs over the next year or two and try and see some similar patterns to when you met your last guy.

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posted November 07, 2010 06:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lucia23     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks MVM, I hope you're right.

Okay, these are SA squares, conjunctions, oppositions at 0 degrees for the day we hooked up.

With my Libra ex:
I had:
-SA Moon conjunct Venus (my 7th)
-SA Merc square Neptune
-SA NN square Pluto
-SA NN conjunct AC
-SA AC square Uranus, square Chiron
-SA MC square Mercury

He had:
-SA Mars conjunct Uranus
-SA Saturn square Mercury
-SA Pluto square NN

With the Aries, when we first hooked up I had:
-SA Saturn conjunct Mercury
-SA Neptune opposite Moon

He had:
-SA Mercury conjunct Venus
-SA Mars conjunct Chiron
-SA Pluto opposite Chiron

The transits and progressions for the start of both relationships feel much more informative, but maybe because I don't know how to really read SAs yet

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posted November 07, 2010 06:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lucia23     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Progressions and Transits:

With the Libra, I had:
-PVenus conjunct my Sun
-PMoon-Jupiter conjunct my Jupiter
-PSun conjunct my Mars
-TJupiter conjunct my Pluto
-TMars in my 7th house
He had:
-PVenus conjunct his Mars
-TMars conjunct his Venus
-TJupiter conjunct his Sun
-TSun-Mercury in his 7th house

With the Aries:
I had:
-PVenus conjunct my Mars
-PMars conjunct my Pluto
-TMars in my 7th house
-TVenus in my 5th house
He had:
-PMars conjunct his Venus
-PSun conjunct his Venus
-PMoon conjunct his Jupiter
-TSun conjunct his Venus
-TVenus in his 5th house
-TMars in his 7th house

This all seems much more no-brainer to me than the Solar Arcs.

Also, the Libra and I hooked up the night of a major eclipse. Also, the Sun was transiting my 5th house during each hookup.

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