posted November 08, 2010 10:02 PM         

Parental Significator - Moon/Saturn

The Moon reading relates to Moon in Capricorn, Moon in aspect to Saturn and Moon in the 10th house of the chart. For the most part, this reading is a generalized view of how the person with this parental archetype in the natal chart, may view the mother. Parental relationships can be complicated for some, and there will be different and varying experiences. An individual may receive positive Saturnian images from the mother and equally another person will speak more negatively about their mother. Sometimes the image falls somewhere in-between. I don’t fall into the astrological camp of blaming mother for everything that goes wrong in early childhood. And I have struggled with my own mother-daughter relationship, which wasn’t always easy.

The relationship with my mother contained both negative and highly positive experiences. Comparatively, now that I have a child of my own, the responsibility of imparting a positive Saturnian image is extremely important to me. And there are many areas that I feel inadequate as a parent, and each day brings more tests and challenges. We share a very strong bond of love that helps us to overcome many obstacles. My little boy has Moon in Capricorn in his 5th house. I will try to be sensitive, understanding that readers of this may be mothers. I need to reflect all the possible experiences, so if you read words like cold and rejecting, this doesn't necessarily mean you are. Astrology makes no judgements on any parent. Early circumstances vary for every child and the reason for any kind of personal lack in the child’s background can be due to material hardship, illness, work and so forth.

Safety, Protection and Nurturing

Astrologically, the Moon describes our most fundamental urge for protection, safety and nurturing. The ability to express our lunar needs depends on early development, and the ability for internal mothering. The Moon rules the mother in the natal chart and the relationship will be reflected by the position of the Moon by sign, house and aspects. Our image of mothering is one of unconditional love, care and security. The Moon in the natal chart describes the feminine principle and later relationships with women will also be reflected by the Moon.

The Moon in Capricorn is in its sign of detriment and so it may be a difficult position to experience emotional nourishment and nurturing behaviour. The mother may have valued, achievement, hard-work and organization. In such cases, if often leaves little time for this person to really be a ‘child’ and allow for feelings of vulnerability, neediness and helplessness. This often involves repressing basic emotions and many will have received early parenting which emphasized success and accomplishment. Perhaps love was conditional and the maternal message was one of ‘tough love’.

At worst, the mother figure was viewed as critical, cold and rejecting. The Moon in Capricorn or in aspect to Saturn, does seem to describe difficulty in getting what they want emotionally and the emotions are never allowed free reign. According to Howard Sasportas, these types could encounter an uptight mother, who seems burdened with difficulties and has problems responding to their needs in a fashion which makes them feel at ease.

“In some cases, mother may be trying her hardest to be attentive to your comfort and satisfaction, but she might be so nervous about doing her job right that you would ultimately pick up on her insecurity and doubts. Maybe she’s busy with other responsibilities or has read in a book that babies should be fed according to a timetable and not just when they express a desire to be fed. “ By Howard Sasportas, The Luminaries

Those with Moon in Capricorn often have mothers who are naturally controlling in order to cope with change, and at her best she has a deep sense of responsibility and care for others. In such cases, this type of mother finds it hard to relax and let go. Always doing what is expected of them, and they hate letting others down. Mother may have been a rock in their life, always shouldering the hardship, heavy burdens, and working hard. Perhaps she hardly took a day off to tend to her own needs. Sometimes the mother takes on the role of the father, possibly having to support the family financially.

Saturn is a significator of the element of earth and has a cardinal nature. Therefore, she may be described as materialistic and caring a little too much about social appearances and approval, consequently, being a little too rigid. Coupled with this, is a parent who is afraid of getting it wrong and making mistakes, so she follows the rules to the letter. Perhaps the parent was not a very spontaneous or natural mother and was too reserved. In other cases, the individual was raised by older parents.

The associations are endless, but the Moon-Saturn mother is often dependable, devoted and loyal. However, she might not have always been overly demonstrative in her affections. Sometimes she does things for people out of a sense of duty and it was most probably through her, that they learned how to be self-sufficient. The early home life may have been bleak and mother may have been unavailable when they needed her. Equally, Mother may have been a warm and caring person but she was perceived as overly serious or depressed, and it was hard for her to let go emotionally. Perhaps they saw her as the disciplinarian in the family, and at times she was over strict and demanding.

The mother may have been shy and insecure and it is also likely, that she had it tough emotionally in the early years of the child‘s life. Sometimes death, illness and poverty in the family are physically and psychologically hard on the mother. She may have done her best under such circumstances, but sometimes there is too much to cope with. In addition, these mothers often have to be the strong one in the family, doing all the practical things for everybody.

“Sometimes the child had to take on responsibilities at too young an age, often becoming a surrogate mother, perhaps by being born the eldest child and having to look after younger siblings. Often the mother or other caretaker is over-burdened and Moon-Saturn ends up playing mother to its own mother figure. The lunar aspect of parenting which might be termed ‘conditional love’ is often in short supply. Often there never seems enough time to pander to the child’s needs. As in farming situations, there is often a strong tradition in the family set-up of the Moon-Saturn background. Perhaps for generations the family may have lived in the same house, or locality, or pursued the same kind of profession. The result is that it is very difficult for the individual to be able to get way from the duties, responsibilities and history they were born into. “ By Sue Tompkins, Aspects in Astrology

posted November 09, 2010 12:18 AM         

Although what you have posted here is far better than alot of the negative things I've read.

Some of this was true.
I did have to parent my parent.
I did have to raise my siblings.
I did have other children besides him.
ETA: I just reread what you wrote, and realized what I just wrote ^ there was something you were attributing to the Cap/Moon, not the mother, (sorry for skimming, ha!) but I'll leave in it, in the interest of perhaps learning from another perspective.

But, he is my only son and the absolute closest person to me, bar NONE.
We are together all the time.

I also did take on the father role in a sense, even though he has a father, but his father (a cap) is emotionally undemonstrative, and not interested in participating with a child on a childs level.
So I was the one that played with trucks and cars on the floor with him.
I am the one that plays football with him and basketball.
I take him to sports, school events, and we spend alot of time together driving, (his favorite thing,.. to just drive for a couple hours and talk while listening to the radio) or hiking.

So, IDK about the Cap Moon myth. If you asked my son who he was closest to in this world, he would say me.
If you asked him who is his best friend, he would say me.
That's the truth in our lives.

posted November 09, 2010 12:31 AM         

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The associations are endless, but the Moon-Saturn mother is often dependable, devoted and loyal. However, she might not have always been overly demonstrative in her affections. Sometimes she does things for people out of a sense of duty and it was most probably through her, that they learned how to be self-sufficient. The early home life may have been bleak and mother may have been unavailable when they needed her. Equally, Mother may have been a warm and caring person but she was perceived as overly serious or depressed, and it was hard for her to let go emotionally. Perhaps they saw her as the disciplinarian in the family, and at times she was over strict and demanding.

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posted November 09, 2010 02:50 AM         

I have a Cancer moon whose only aspects are an 8 degree conjunction to Mars and a semi -sextile to Venus.
My mother has been my single biggest wound as I am sure all on here know and I have a Cancer moon.

posted November 09, 2010 02:52 AM         

I have a Cancer moon whose only aspects are an 8 degree conjunction to Mars and a semi -sextile to Venus.
My mother has been my single biggest wound as I am sure all on here know and I have a Cancer moon.

posted November 09, 2010 04:04 AM         

You won't understand much by Moon sign alone.
You'll find so much BS on Capricorn Moon out there that has no connection to reality whatsoever.
I should know because I have one lol

posted November 09, 2010 04:06 AM         

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my mom was 40 when she had me

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My mom was in her early 20s LOL
Goes to show you really can't go by sign alone.

posted November 09, 2010 05:12 AM         

But I also have

posted November 09, 2010 06:26 AM         

My older half sister was 16 when I was born and often times would take care of me (and as a typical bratty teen she called me an accidental miracle lol (and the reality is I was an accident lol...she was premenapausal AND had a tough time even getting pregnant with my older sister in 1971) when I behaved like a kid who wanted attention.

When my mom would go to work (she was a teacher when I was small) so she would pick me up from day care and basically be my "mom." After she moved at 18 I just basically had babysitters (ie old women lol) who took care of me. In fact I rarely saw my mom except for when she would read to me at night.

{quote}Goes to show you really can't go by sign alone.

My relationship with my mom is best described by my Moon sextile Mercury - which is the closest aspect in my chart.[/quote]

posted November 09, 2010 12:15 PM         

But yeah, Capricorn Moon people's mothers are not the ideal.