posted November 13, 2010 08:34 PM         

I don't think I can stop myself having a small outburst of emotion first, so feel free to skip to the end!

[[Simply, I have been head over heels for this Pisces guy for a year now. He is one of my close friends and we are flatmates. I have always had a strong *sense* that he liked me in return (I'm a Virgo) and he's acted in plenty of ways to back this up... Yesterday, he found out how I feel. I say found out, as I only wanted to ask him to stop being so flirty with me as it makes resisting him tricky, but he (FINALLY) saw what I really meant, and interrogated me until I admitted it. I still wasn't sure until the very last moment whether he was asking because he did or didn't like me in return. He was smiling, very close and looking intently at me. And then despite not expressing similar feelings back, and instead saying 'I see you as a good friend', he then refused to leave and insisted on talking about it for what seemed like forever. It was horrible. I feel pretty low ( Sorry, not meant to be this much of a personal topic! Oh dear ) but aside from obviously being a little heartbroken (and feeling pretty stupid) I can't escape this irritating voice which keeps questioning whether I really have been so deluded all this time. I was *so sure* he liked me back... and now it all feels like a dream.]]

So basically, do Pisces ever act in a different way to how they feel, or express things which are different to how they act?

posted November 13, 2010 08:58 PM         

Thanks for taking a look.

posted November 13, 2010 08:59 PM         

The problem is, he's so unlikely to ever stop giving out those mixed messages--Pisces Moon Man never did.

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'I see you as a good friend'

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When a guy says this, run far far far away. He either means it, which is so insulting and annoying because good friends don't lead you on, leading someone on is mean....OR he's lying about it, to you and--this is the lower-octave-water clinche--lying to himself about his feelings.

At worst, you end up in a series of embarrassing situations of being rejected even when you are sure he's interested...at best, you end up in a sexual clinch with a confused and drifty guy, who tells you you're "The One" one minute and spends four hours staring into your eyes and stroking your hands (tiring if you have any fire in your chart), and then the next day he's like, gone.

Run away!!! Even though he's hot.

posted November 13, 2010 08:59 PM         

They can be the most confusing.. There are a lot of threads just about Pisces men.. What some of us are also going through...
Me included..

What I have learned about Pisces men, is they will not admit to feelings unless they are 100% sure, the feelings are reciprocated. Since you told him your feelings, and he didnt say anything about lets see what happens.. He may not have the same feelings... ( I know its hell)
Im sure he felt really bad and wanted to make you feel better which is why he wanted to talk about it....

My only suggestion is just go with the flow, and act like nothing.. Dont seem phased by it.... Keep him guessing..
Who knows maybe in a later date things will change....

posted November 13, 2010 09:10 PM         

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run far far far away. He either means it, which is so insulting and annoying because good friends don't lead you on, leading someone on is mean....OR he's lying about it, to you and--this is the lower-octave-water clinche--lying to himself about his feelings

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posted November 13, 2010 09:40 PM         

How funny Im Pisces Sun with Leo rising, sun in 8th + pluto 4th, neptune uranus in 5th, but that's where the similarity ends..

"strong *sense* that he liked me in return (I'm a Virgo) and he's acted in plenty of ways to back this up."
OK you're right, he couldve just done this for the attention. Plus your Venus on his Moon is mighty comforting in times of stress, plus he prob has a genuine liking of your presence, liking to have you close. But that's his Moon. I wonder if he feels as if you come across strongly with your Mars squaring it, plus it's also squaring his Sun conj Merc..Mars in gemini puts words to everything wants to put it out there, likes to dissect..Pisces isnt really about that, he may have wanted or wondered why you couldnt get to an emotive level and read what was there? You have just Pluto Scorpio right..oh and Cancer dsc..the dsc could help explain attraction to water signs..This could be a big part of the confusion for you.

And I'm not gonna deny we can, or anyway I can, as a Pisces, confuse others easily. And can be easily turned about myself..and my Neptune is v.well aspected.

"I still wasn't sure until the very last moment whether he was asking because he did or didn't like me in return."
I believe he wanted the actual words for the ego boost, and to be playful. It's a good sign. Esp considering he has Virgo moon.

"instead saying 'I see you as a good friend'"
Well this is technically good coming from someone with Aqua dsc. Your dsc rulers are conj but they're very diff, his uranus yours saturn. You want it to be pinned down he's more apt to leave it up in the air...With his dsc ruler in the 5th he wants romance to be like a friendship endless dating experience, always keeping things fresh.

"talking about it for what seemed like forever."
If you weren't really good friends he wouldntve interrogated.
What was his tone here, you said he was smiling while interrogating? I think the thought of a relationship hadnt crossed his mind to this extent and youre bringing it up and now he wants to ferret all the details out of you, to see if it could make sense to him, as in going for it, somewhere down the line. Don't ask, it's just how Aquarius dsc works sometimes, sorry. I know it's confusing.

From what I can tell it's up in the air. If he really didnt like the idea hed avoid you, or really tone down the interaction with you. He wouldnt keep on just for an ego boost, hes prob too romantic for that.

posted November 14, 2010 08:48 AM         

Lonake- wow, thank you, that's a really helpful insight, on an astrological and sociological level.

Is my Moon almost conj. his Venus too? My moon's Aries, like his Venus. I generally find I like to go after men, as opposed to being chased.

I think you're probably right about the Gemini Mars... I do feel like there's something stopping everything from slipping into place. Maybe that's it. Do you mean that perhaps he wanted me to work out how he feels without words? He did say I should have told him sooner though, and that if he liked me he would have told me... which seems like an odd thing to say.

"I believe he wanted the actual words for the ego boost, and to be playful"
Again, I think you're right... why is this a good thing for a Virgo Moon to do? Because it would be rare for them to be frivolous about an emotional topic?

"What was his tone here, you said he was smiling while interrogating?"
Yes, well, he only looked remorseful a couple of times. Generally, he kept the whole conversation quite lighthearted. I'd say he looked pleased once or twice too.

"he wants to ferret all the details out of you, to see if it could make sense to him"
REALLY interesting you should say this, as one thing he brought up was a story about when he once tried to show a girl how much he liked her, and as he put it, 'laid out all the reasons why they should be together', with, as far as I can gather, complex visual aids and meaningful glances haha. I was wondering then if what he was protracting the conversation for was to glean this kind of response from me.

"If he really didnt like the idea hed avoid you, or really tone down the interaction with you"
Completely the opposite... he is acting quite a bit nicer to me, without going overboard. I'm not entirely sure why. He seemed very keen on us staying friends. When I said I wanted to move out of the house, he insisted I stayed.

posted November 15, 2010 02:01 AM         

"What you're saying about descendants sounds really interesting. I didn't know they played that much of a part in how people acted?"
Yea, they're like a secondary Venus in a sense. How we act to attract, what we're attracted to. I don't want to go as far as saying we're attracted to 'that specific sign' but we want what that sign represents, we want the energy as a balance to our Asc. If we're already balanced in that manner, then we won't be so hung up on it. The more someone is completely geared toward their Asc the more they'll be drawn to the dis-owned, shadow, side which is its opposite. Same with planets in 7th, or conj Dsc, if we own them it's cool, if not it's like we can't get enough of it, act out that quality for me -now- or I am gone, haha. And if they won't then we'll act in a way to get them to react to us in that manner. People will say they can't believe they keep attracting this side of Pluto, for example, if Pluto is in their 7th, but they don't realize that they act to attract it, that on some level they haven't owned it, and need it played out for them.