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Topic: Synastry with people you know who don't know each other
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britterfly
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posted November 14, 2010 01:18 PM
 
You seem to obtain the first idea pretty well, but you're having a bit of trouble with the second idea. Do you not believe that humans are part of God and part of the limitless cosmic mesh? Do you find enlightenment to be a false idea?IP: Logged |
DD
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posted November 14, 2010 01:21 PM
Britterfly,I already apologized for being curt. And that is really all there is to say. IP: Logged |
britterfly
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posted November 14, 2010 01:21 PM
Many of these people I did charts for weren't people that I attracted in to my life so much as they just sort of showed up in my life through happenstance, which makes it all the more eerie when all their venuses and mars and suns and moons and nodes are conjuncting with very tight orbs.Makes me want to just throw a big party and invite all these people. Unfortunately they're all in different states. :-( IP: Logged |
woah cakes
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posted November 14, 2010 02:03 PM
cool topic! yeah i've definitely noticed that. those shared aspects usually seem to line up in some way with my chart though..britterfly, quote:
Sometimes when I find myself in a very altruistic state of mind, I am able to observe myself from a bird's eye perspective, and I am completely disconnected from all the qualities of myself that are a result of, or a reflection of, my astrological arrangement. For instance, having a Scorpio moon in my 12th house, I am a very secretive about my emotions and very guarded and fearful, but when I bring myself in to a state of being that is unaffected by earthly draws, I am fearless to express myself and to love openly and accept whatever energy is going on around me, or in my life in general. I am also aware of the physical world being nothing by a foggy illusion, and physical reality becomes blurry. I feel myself floating, in a way. I think the ideal state of mind is like this, and when humanity reaches their intended potential, astrology won't really matter any more; we'll all be like wafts of smoke on the ether. Astrology tells the story of someone's Karma; when all our Karma is cleared away, then we can all get down the real business of being human, which is Divine.
oh man, this is SO mercury in aquarius. i have this bird's eye perspective and the same resulting 'conclusions' frequently. for me it is like i can look down and see how energy interlates.. like it's on a grid. aquarius is my sun and mars too, and it's pretty much WITH me always (this pov), unless i'm 'stuck' in my emotions. what degree is your mercury and what is your sun sign?
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britterfly
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posted November 14, 2010 02:20 PM
Exactly like it's on a grid. It's surreal, isn't it???Maybe only Mercury in Aquarius people are the only ones privy to this knowledge and other people just wouldn't understand... *looks pointedly at DD* LOL I'm just kidding lololol IP: Logged |
britterfly
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posted November 14, 2010 02:22 PM
I'm an Aquarius sun (23 degrees) and my Mercury is in Aquarius at 18 degrees, in the third house.IP: Logged |
woah cakes
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posted November 14, 2010 02:29 PM
yeah, it's trippy. and anyone i tell this to about my perspective is like 'huh?'. for me, i THINK in images, and the images flow and interconnect and it's sometimes very hard to articulate what i'm 'seeing'/thinking. i think that is why aquarians come off as flakey. do you have that experience? when i paint, this is what i try to get across. can't help it; it's with me always!  IP: Logged |
DD
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posted November 14, 2010 02:30 PM
*yawns*Ah, arguing is boring. How do you people do that all the time and not getting tired of it?  Britterfly, My Moon is on 17 Aquarius
And I figure both of us have a Sag-ASC? IP: Logged |
woah cakes
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posted November 14, 2010 02:32 PM
as for the astrology of it, i think it is because it is the last 'mental' sign before pisces. pisces is completely IN this energy, the Oneness, which is why they are so chameleonlike, and aquarius is more detached and aware OF the Oneness (objectively, as opposed to being immersed in it) and sees how the energies interelate, specifically HOW the One plays out in the many.IP: Logged |
woah cakes
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posted November 14, 2010 02:33 PM
who's arguing? i think both perspectives are valid here. IP: Logged |
DD
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posted November 14, 2010 02:36 PM
Exactly.BOTH are valid. IP: Logged |
britterfly
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posted November 14, 2010 03:02 PM
Gee, DD, how did you deduce my rising sign? Could it be that I revealed my house placements???Depending on what time I was born, I am either a Scorpio rising in the 12th house or a Sagittarius rising. I am not entirely certain as my parents are not completely exact on the time of birth, but I vibe really strongly with Scorpio rising and how that aspect would vibe with the other aspects in my chart. If I am a Scorpio rising, then my moon and Saturn would conjunct my ascendant almost exactly, with very tight orbs, and what those aspects mean are VERY true of me. IP: Logged |
DD
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posted November 14, 2010 03:14 PM
Britterfly,you mentioned you have Aquarius in 3rd house. So a Sag or Scorpio rising, depending on which housesystem you are using, would fit. You could rectify your chart.
I found Solar Arcs and transits to be very reliable in rectification (like NOel Tyl suggests to do it). This way you would get a pretty exact birthtime. Just list some really important events. Solar Arc conjunctions will be within 30 minutes of orb, and transits will be exact, I think I remember.
As to your question:
Yes, I believe in a spiritual perspective.
I am not sure if you can become really karmafree in this life and continuing to live. Meaning if there is nothing more to do for you spiritually or otherwise on earth, your soul probably would leave. Of course that is just what I believe. I can`t prove it of course.
I still believe that astrology is "all-encompassing" for life on earth, including the spiritual progress (until you leave your mortal shell behind).
I also believe that what IQ said, that you can leave your astrological chart behind, actually means (to me that is) to choose to express the energies in the highest possible expression of that certain range (and admittedly it`s a very wide range).
This is my opinion, because I believe this is right; otherwise I would have a different opinion obviously.
Of course I don`t KNOW if this is true, but neither does anyone else.
WE all make our experience and we INTERPRETE them, some of us coming to different results, from a different perspective. But still I think that each of us only sees a part of the puzzle, and probably from a very individual angle, looking through our own glasses, which colour what we see. Oh and concerning God: I donīt believe in a personal God.
God IS love. (to me that is) I also believe in a meaningful universe, in a divine plan, if you want to put it like this, in a divine puzzle, where every piece has its place. Call me a dreamer, but that is what I believe with all my heart. 
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britterfly
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posted November 14, 2010 03:15 PM
My mother had a horrendous time giving birth to me. Mothers enjoy regaling their children with horror stories of their birth, but my mother's story of my birth would top many of them. She actually saw cartoon birds and stars flying in circles around her head.IP: Logged |
britterfly
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posted November 14, 2010 03:37 PM
DD,Very nicely put. It's interesting that you pointed out that everyone sees the universe from their own personal perspective. A favorite idea that someone proposed to me was that if the Universe could be represented by, say, a tea cup, and there are three or four people standing around the tea cup, each person is going to see the tea cup from a different angle and see different parts of the tea cup, yet each person would describe the tea cup in more or less exactly the same way, with of course the given differences, but each point of view is absolutely correct, even the differences in their opinions are absolutely correct. If one were to add to this idea, I think that insanity could be explained away very neatly: If one person is looking at a part of the tea cup that is painted neon green, while the rest of the tea cup is painted white, then everyone else who sees the white part of the tea cup would think that the person who sees neon green is either lying, is color blind, or is just off his rocker. IP: Logged |
DD
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posted November 14, 2010 03:50 PM
Britterfly,that is exactly how I see it. This afternoon I was just put off by the absolute way in which you phrased your opinion. So I put an equally (maybe a bit exaggerated - Hey Sun in 1st house has to come out somewhere. lol) absolute statement against it. Then you continued to tell me that if I had made a certain experience (which you thought I had not made), then I would have come to the same conclusion as you. This implies that there is only one possible conclusion, only one possible interpretation, and true to my independent Aquarius-Moon, I just donīt like to be told how I (should) feel or think.
Just an explanation for why I reacted the way I did.
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britterfly
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posted November 14, 2010 05:30 PM
I just like arguing with people and driving my point home. I know I am being very obnoxious and rude when I do, so I don't have an excuse. Sorry!IP: Logged |
britterfly
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posted November 14, 2010 05:31 PM
I found it really ironic and comical that we were arguing about being altruistic and the true state of humanity being love.Welcome to the Age of Aquarius! Now heated intellectual debates are going to be about love and the relativity of the physical world! HAHA! IP: Logged |
letram
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posted November 14, 2010 07:55 PM
love is choice.therefore astrology must be also in terms of synastry.  IP: Logged |
DD
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posted November 15, 2010 04:35 AM
Britterfly,as a matter of fact I think we are not all that different.  IP: Logged |
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