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Topic: Nessus/ Dejanaria
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iQ
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posted November 24, 2010 01:43 PM
  
Excellent points by Diandra and Ami.
I thought over 80% blindly obeyed the authority figures.
Interestingly, Hitler never personally tortured or shot down people in the gulags. There was no need for his commands to have been obeyed. Imagine if every Nazi officer in the ground level became an Oscar Schindler. What a great place the world would have become.IP: Logged |
Ami Anne
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posted November 24, 2010 01:58 PM
IQ
IF they ever clone you, I have first dibs  ------------------
Pluto conjunct Dejanira, Girlfriend. IP: Logged |
curbro
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From: Jupiter
Registered: Nov 2010
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posted April 07, 2011 09:49 AM
This thread is interesting as I've never considered the placement of these two asteroids before.  IP: Logged |
Ami Anne
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posted April 07, 2011 10:12 AM
There are 2 Nessus/Deja threads,Cubro.
Another one was started by Amph.You can hop on both,if you like.
I am gonna look at your chart and see if I have insights.
On the other thread, we are discussing synastry involving Nessus/Deja so you might want to check that one out ,too  ------------------
Life is lived in the sand box.
He who controls his Spirit is greater than he who controls a city
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Ami Anne
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posted April 07, 2011 10:16 AM
OK
You have Deja square Pluto. This could be some of your issues.
It is a 3 orb and IQ likes a 2 but I am using more for myself as I can feel the greater orbs in my own chart.
Pluto is your power. Deja is your victim part.
I see these as being tied up ,in a square.
I may be wrong but this is my exact conclusion to my own similar dilemma. I have Deja(conjunct Pluto) square Nessus.
I see Pluto and Nessus tied up ,together,and neither giving ME their needed energy so *I* can access them in my life. If you DON"T access them,you meet them from the outside.
This,to me ,is what YOU are saying,in a nutshell ,in your original thread. ------------------
Life is lived in the sand box.
He who controls his Spirit is greater than he who controls a city
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Ami Anne
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posted April 07, 2011 10:19 AM
To break it down more,Cubro.
This is my thinking.
In your square with Pluto and Deja,you have Pluto tied in and impotent,in a sense.
You have Deja tied in there and not owned by you.
So,you are going forward,in life without enough personal power(Pluto) and not owning your Deja(victim self)
If your victim self is NOT owned by you,you will meet it outside you,in relationships.
You may feel victimized ,in relationships.
You will think it is them when it is your unowned part being played out.------------------
Life is lived in the sand box.
He who controls his Spirit is greater than he who controls a city
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Ami Anne
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posted April 07, 2011 10:22 AM
MAJOR DISCLAIMER
These are me and my theories. Anyone,feel free to reject them.
They are my conclusions and may be wrong ,astrologically ,too.
Please,comment/criticize if you can do it ,respectfully.
ALL non respectful(or what *I* perceive as non-respectful remarks will be ignored)------------------
Life is lived in the sand box.
He who controls his Spirit is greater than he who controls a city
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curbro
Knowflake Posts: 238
From: Jupiter
Registered: Nov 2010
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posted April 07, 2011 10:29 AM
Wow. You just called me out. I don't know how these two asteroids work too well but I'm definitely going to research them now. Maybe these progressions will help shed some light on my current situation. You're incredible, Ami.
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Ami Anne
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posted April 07, 2011 10:31 AM
This is my current conclusion to my own life,Cubro.
My Deja is conjunct Pluto so I WILL fight if I am bullied.
However, these square Nessus. I see Pluto square Nessus as my main problem.
Both energies are lost to me ,in this square. I see them as locked in, together.Neither allows me to use it.
As such, I meet my Pluto AND my Nessus from the outside.
This has been the case,prior,to this time when I am trying to be aware of it and to OWN these energies.
It is very hard.
I am afraid of both Pluto and Nessus, quite frankly.
The thing with energies, though,is that they are like the rainbow.
They are all there,all colors and all flavors.
You will taste them ,somehow.
HOW is the key  ------------------
Life is lived in the sand box.
He who controls his Spirit is greater than he who controls a city
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Ami Anne
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posted April 07, 2011 10:44 AM
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Ami Anne
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posted April 07, 2011 10:46 AM
Since you threw me a nice juicy Milk Bone ,I will come back and meditate on your chart  ------------------
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Ami Anne
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posted April 07, 2011 10:59 AM
Cubro
You have Neptune quincunx Chiron.It is 4 degrees but *I* can feel the wider degrees in my own chart so I count them.
This would fit in,too. Your Chiron is locked in the 12th house.It is hard to put a finger on,hard to grasp.
Neptune from the 7th quincunx it which exacerbates the original dilemma of HOW to handle these "circumstances" which keep repeating.
Neptune blurs relationships. Chiron demands you heal wounds.
These houses form an aspect with the quincunx.
Neptune can make your relationships seem" blurry"--again fortifying the original theme--WHY do you keep meeting the same incident from the outside  ------------------
Life is lived in the sand box.
He who controls his Spirit is greater than he who controls a city
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curbro
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posted April 07, 2011 11:53 AM
I'm not sure what to make of all this. I'm also going to have to meditate on it.IP: Logged |
Ami Anne
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posted April 07, 2011 11:57 AM
Yes,Cubro,meditate on it and come back.I could be wrong,too.
I have been doing astrology for a little over a year so am open,always, to criticism !------------------
Life is lived in the sand box.
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curbro
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posted April 07, 2011 12:02 PM
You're definitely striking a chord in me. I'm just trying to wrap my mind around the whole thing.IP: Logged |
Ami Anne
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posted April 07, 2011 12:05 PM
Well, Cubro ,if it is too personal for LL, tell me and I will erase anything
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Life is lived in the sand box.
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curbro
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posted April 07, 2011 12:06 PM
Lol. No. It's fine.IP: Logged |
Ami Anne
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posted April 07, 2011 12:06 PM
OK
You are like me,Cubro  ------------------
Life is lived in the sand box.
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Ami Anne
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posted April 07, 2011 12:20 PM
Well,Cubro,the quincunx can be put on the back burner.
The HUGE thing for me ,and perhaps for you,is the Pluto/Deja square in your case and the Nessus/Pluto square in my case. I need to accept these TWO things in myself,my Power/Pluto and my capacity to abuse others/Nessus.
When I do that,I will be great  ------------------
Life is lived in the sand box.
He who controls his Spirit is greater than he who controls a city
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Ami Anne
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posted April 09, 2011 03:59 AM
Bump
Want to come back to this thread,tomorrow.
Have some ideas about the squares I want to talk about lol------------------
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