posted November 22, 2010 04:58 PM              

i had the solar conjunction with somebody..

along with pluto and uranus conj my sun and south node.. just the same, all other things were blended wonderfully together but it didn't work out (their south node conj my saturn.. usually, even w north node, saturn/node relationships never work out) so i knoooooow what you mean that there's something just there..

you may even enjoy them very much but at the same time, you're looking over your shoulder out the window wondering what else is out there and kinda feel guilty about it and convince yourself not to look there.

think of it like this..... if you stay, you'll never be anybody else.. you'll express your emotions in the same way you've been up til now, your scope of relationships will remain where they are now and they may be expansive or narrow, depending on the sign and aspects.. no one know but you so, u kno, where are u gonna go? possibly nowhere...

you have free will. there's already the wonderful bond there and what you guys have been through together for these last 3 years will always be there and nobody can rob u of those feelings or memories so nothing is really lost at all the only thing lost is the feeling of familiarity because everything else, doesn't exist in the present moment so u can't be living in the future wondering if you're going to look back and miss it because either way, you'll look fondly on it but you also can't be looking to the past which is what south node connections in two charts tend to do.

u guys are both grown ups, u kno? u don't have to say that u no longer want to be together but get in touch with your feelings even if feel to do so you need to tell him that u think u need to spend some time apart..

you can have a relationship like two healthy adults and be honest about your emotions through communication and mutual respect or you can you know, do things the old way by feeling that you can't because someone else needs you.. that mentality is ok when you're a kid but after a certain point, people being to understand that even if it feels good, u can't always be together.. for whatever reason.

if your dog from when u were twelve years old was sick and bit you, you'd get yourself treated but if he's getting old and cranky and biting you all the time, you're gonna put that sucker down. because one enjoys sex doesn't mean they are out having sex with just about everyone and everything in the world.. no, because people know better.

two adults can realize that if they have sex without being safe, there are some dangers.. people respect that and if they don't, no candy for them u know what i mean?

if u need some time to yourself, he oughta respect that just as you should if he said so to u.. no one's being put to sleep, but u kno..

posted November 22, 2010 05:00 PM              

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Duke, most of my crying has been about me and my own regrets, not that a$$ (excuse my language). I avoided his emails until last night, when I was upset over my dog, because I expected there to be more upsetting things, and sure enough...

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posted November 22, 2010 05:12 PM            

But I'm not sure.

posted November 22, 2010 05:14 PM              

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Well I might go see one tonight I just talked to her on the phone.

But I'm not sure.

I feel like I'm running in circles sometimes because I do believe in God but that belief doesn't guide me when it comes to this person and I am completely at a loss with myself and he is actually the reason I learned about astrology and all this paranormal stuff that cant be good right?

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posted November 22, 2010 05:36 PM            

I had a clairaudient one that made my lights flicker, and another I can't find that I did through a metaphysical bookstore. Either way, that guy that I recommended is amazing. If you want me to find the other two I can.

posted November 23, 2010 02:56 AM            

The illumination about Nessus came to me while pondering on Eric Francis' articles.
He mentioned how Nessus carries the energy from Saturn to Pluto and back. Karma to the "Underworld/Cesspool of Criminals" and back in the negative sense. Cleaning up the demons , purging them of their sins and giving them the second chance. To this astronomical insight we have the Myth Archetype of the horny rapist who takes advantage of a woman who trusted him.
So, yes, Nessus Energy has no feelings for the woman, and is certain that punishment will come but there is still no care. Getting a dose of Pluto after a Saturn sentencing is alright for this Energy. He calmly took Hercule's punishment but was CUNNING and CONVINCING enough to get revenge as well. Nessus Energy will confuse the victim, will play on their guilt and empathy, cry and cry and cry together till they are alone and then WHAM! Rape. Physical like Bundy or emotional rape like a sociopathic partner.

Dejanira is the Energy of the person who suffers because she not only refuses to fight back, she also does not take the leap of faith and jump off the Nessus Ferry. She is resigned to being part of Saturn-Pluto cycles and refusing to transcend beyond our Solar System.
Dejanira tells us where and how we refuse to give up receiving abuse.

No girl should hesitate to shoot a person attempting rape out of fear or guilt of the consequences of killing the beast. Fear not the Saturn-Pluto cyclical energy of Nessus.
Take action. If you do not slay the beast, he will take more victims. Had one of the girls brutally defended herself against Bundy, more than 40 lives could have been saved.

Nessus thus helps people overcome the Victim Mind Pattern by planning and attempting to execute abuse.

The following is a difficult read, dealing with the psychopaths and killers with Nessus Afflictions to key objects in the chart. http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum24/HTML/204936.html

This is the Sociopathy Thread: http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum24/HTML/204873.html
Long thread, there will be my usual fights with Glaucus in between but in spite of the distractions, I have posted pinpoint analysis in every case of sociopathy referred. You will see not only Nessus afflictions but also Neptune afflictions in many cases. You will see a deadly sociopath with Nessus sq Ascendant. This is a must read thread for all interested in Nessus Dynamics.

I once again apologize for my fight with Glaucus in that thread, we should have taken our fight to another thread.

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http://tamsoft.co.in/articles.html

posted November 23, 2010 09:45 AM            

I didn't fight in high school, because I didn't want to hurt anyone. I did stand my ground.. and when one person, in the past year, I've repeatedly spoken up, when expected to just let something go for their sake. They had one or two good points, but the rest of it was utter BS. I have Nessus sextile my Sun.

this person once, when feeling sorry for himself, commented on a video of Bundy, saying that he would never have killed those women if he hadn't had problems with them. WTF? Women were basically evil. I pointed out that he was actually a really popular man. He's on meds now, and is seeing a therapist for his anxiety and depression, but he's telling me that his lies are *my* problems - what's wrong with me. We've barely been civil for the whole year, because I knew something was up, and won't take responsibility for his actions in that way - only once apologizing for not showing me his good side that often, and that was when he wanted something from me this August. Claimed that he was worthy of my love. Not with this behaviour, and new things cropping up; they just have me wondering more and more, what sort of thing I did to have the Universe play this nasty joke on me, when I've tried my whole life, to avoid people like this.

Maybe my Nessus conjunct his SN means I was like this to him in a past life, but I wasn't that way with him at all in this one, until I wanted to push him away. My Deja/Juno is conjunct our composite Moon (ugh).

posted November 23, 2010 03:37 PM              

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Duke
You can hijack my thread any time. If YOU are driving the bus, I am getting on.
Can we stop at the restaurant

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Pluto conjunct Dejanira, Girlfriend.

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posted November 23, 2010 04:19 PM              

one is just giving examples and no reasons behind it and i personally have a bit of an issue just taking things at face value when it comes to people explaining their knowledge especially if i do not follow and they seem to be unable to explain their discovery.

i've also found that by reading that thread, one of the user's explaining their findings dealing with nessus, has saturn natally in the fifth house and that is ok.. i've noticed that what may be true for a saturn in the fifth, may not be true for saturn in the others, so that is another reason why i am taking it with a grain of salt as saturn there would bring all fifth house activities down to a screeching and abrupt halt..

that placement, is not at all friendly for playtime things which the fifth house is infamous for seeing as how the key nature of saturn, is responsibility and seriousness so imo, naturally, a person with that placement would not enjoy dating as a pastime without needing to discuss things like where the other stands when it comes to the death penalty while sharing a frosty.

nothing screams romance more than sharing a shake while staring into your prospects eyes who is slurping from another straw on the other end of the table to then pause from your sucking to ask: "so, the placenta has been proven healthy to eat after a woman has children.. if you and i were to bear a child, would disinfecting, preparing and storing it as a month's dinner work well for you or would i need a refrigerator of my own to do so?"

for them, dating is a different reality. they don't run into romance, they run into blockages.. they run into freaks and weirdo's and yes, sociopaths, whereas the reality for others, probably most, is not like that and though i respect their sharing, i think that one ought to be aware and understand themselves and their ways before reaching out to understand others from just their narrow point of view.

i think it is also something crucial for most reading things on here to get to know and understand the people who communicate certain things to them because not everyone can be or has the ability to be responsible and conscious of what they say and are doing to the extent where they fail to see that perhaps their reality is theirs, on their own.

posted November 24, 2010 04:44 AM            

For the Asteroid Deniers, his chart has a neat Chiron square ISRAEL, less than 1 degree orb.

For Evolved Souls who know about Past Life Cycles, Hitler has Saturn conjunct ATLANTIS less than one degree. Strangely he has NESSUS trine Uranus Retrograde as well. I guess he easily gave the green signal for large scale abuse to satisfy his Sun trine Lucifer harmony with the dark forces [and a bit of Astral Sacrifice with NESSUS square HEKATE exact and ANUBIS conjunct his Ascendant exact to a few seconds provided his Historians are right. I had doubts about his birthday being 19th April, I will not hide this fact just because I found something cool in the official date.]

I always warn of Earthquakes when POSEIDON gets a Neptune affliction. This man had POSEIDON in 0 Pisces [technically its home territory] squared by Neptune in 0 Gemini. He certainly generated a bodycount that put Earthquakes to shame and used "Hot Air" to "drown out" the voices of reason before unleashing the sea of blood.

I have a couplet for Nessus Deniers.

"Ashes to Ashes Dust to Dust,
If KARMA don't get ya, NESSUS Must."

posted November 24, 2010 07:27 AM              

its odd that we never actually had a thread about Hitler´s chart,did we?

its from people like him that we can learn so much....

im actually starting to think something:even being who he was,Hitler was not the only guilty. he did what he did,BECAUSE he had those hundreds of people applauding him and believing on what he was saying...if not one single Soul would have stand up with him,he as the only guy,could not have did what he did.

after i read Florence,i really was mesmerized by what she said:its the collective conscious that gave him the power...the possibility was there,simply cause the dark energie was there too,in each one of every single person..just waiting to be awaken.

he had the perfect aspects to act on,in his chart. it was fuelled by people´s darker archetypes too.

posted November 24, 2010 07:35 AM            

Milgrim showed that humans will listen to authority 60% of the time even if authority tells them to shock a man to death, which was what happened (fake,of course) in the study.

The experiment was repeated and replicated time and time again with different twists.
Always, people listened to authority and not themselves.
There are many ,many Hitlers alive now, everywhere.
It takes the society to ALLOW them to reign.
The problem is a social one, not a personal one, although ,of course ,Hitler and others such as he must the seeds within him to spearhead.

posted November 24, 2010 09:13 AM              

i've heard of that experiment.. where they were to shock the person if they've gotten the answer wrong? most people shocked to lethal levels and were totally ok with it.