posted November 27, 2010 01:44 PM         

If you're new how would you know that?

posted November 27, 2010 02:02 PM         

Anyway--all that sexist bs is so wildly inaccurate, about "all men" or "all women." Human love and sexuality are complicated.

"All men" aren't even sexually attracted to women, at all. Some men are only sexually attracted to fat hairy teddy-bearish dudes.

posted November 27, 2010 02:23 PM         

These men end up getting theirs in the end when their gf/wife loses her looks and takes half of everything he owns or he's stuck with her due to finances and/or children, so it backfires on them anyway.

posted November 27, 2010 07:23 PM         

It's social conditioning. And I can think of several famous men that have dated "below" themselves in terms of looks. Luke Worrall, who is a male model, used to date Kelly Osbourne, who isn't exactly on the top 100 hot list.

I can think of several real life examples, too. I dated a guy who was literally like an Adonis. I'm no Aphrodite. His current girlfriend isn't that attractive, either, and neither was his girlfriend before me. Another ex boyfriend is still in love with me even though he has several much hotter girls falling all over themselves for him.

posted November 27, 2010 07:42 PM         

>> because this society still only values pretty women.>>

posted November 27, 2010 08:00 PM         

My female friends who are successful models, ballerinas, actresses often cast for their looks often have a lot of trouble attracting men, who are very intimidated. The kind of man Diana is talking about (heterosexual, conventionally-minded, thoughtlessly falling into old gender stereotypes) puts them on a pedestal but doesn't actually see himself in a relationship with someone so awe-striking.

Lol Amowls, clearly I am a "man" too, even though I'm very conventionally feminine. I look for a physical attraction/beauty in a guy first (he needs brilliance too)...and ALSO the undefinable and unpredictable magic of connection between us.

Among the men and women I know (and I have also interviewed many people about this topic), some seem drawn to looks first, others personality, others some combination of both. On the streets of my city, I see lots of couples where the guy is more conventionally good-looking than the girl--I see it a lot with male models and actors, in fact.

posted November 27, 2010 08:53 PM         

But to simply say that all men are strickly interested in looks, is ridiculous. I mean of course, what man doesn't want a beautiful woman? But lets be honest here, a man wants to marry someone to can provide him with a good deal of comforts when it comes to conversation and having things in common.

posted November 27, 2010 09:05 PM         

Here is the chart.

I would like to know how me (leo moon) is placed in regards to the comment I originally posted.

For example:

My significators are

Moon in Leo
Venus in Libra

His are

Saturn in Libra
Sun in Saggitarius

So this means I (the moon) is in the dignity of the Sun (him) meaning I pretty much love him clear headedly. Venus (me) is in exaltation of Saturn showing my love even further since he is signifyied by Saturn.

posted November 27, 2010 11:33 PM         

Yup, the very very attractive woman will often not be approached by nicer men, but by the cocky, testosterone riddled douchebag, who has the balls to approach her. As a result, a lot of very attractive women are with assh-le guys, because the other guys are too afraid to approach her, because they're afraid of rejection. So she either gets weird stalker types (because these guys will approach too. I am talking nutty, not normal guys) or the alpha male, as valus is calling him.

As a result, very attractive women, unless they meet a normal guy luckily, are usually with that doucheb-ag or single, and no one can fathom why. Very attractive women are usually a little nutty for this reason -- because all the guys who have the nerve to ask her out then proceed to treat her like cra_.

When I say very attractive, I mean someone who turns every head when she walks in a room, even women's, not your average but pretty girl.

>>>It's fairly safe to say that most fall in love with a projection, at the very least.

And if TV is reflecting the society, excuse me while I go vomit>>>

It IS. It's always some overweight, dopey guy whose wife, who is waaay too hot for him, acts more like his mother and the kid acts so mature for their age and basically run the show. The guy is like a big ugly teen trapped in a 45 year old body and hates his life and so does the wife, who is exasperated, but tries too hold it together.

Pay attention, you'll notice it now. Modern Family, that other show on CBS that I can't think of and a slew of others in the past. I don't watch these shows because they really annoy me. The family dynamic these days is so f'd up, it's ridiculous.

posted November 27, 2010 11:47 PM         

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When I said men, of course I meant heterosexual men. Homosexuals aren't really considered men anyways. I don't mean this in an offensive way. They "become" a woman so to speak. Homosexual men are created by being sexually abused as children or they are born homosexual for population control.

Most women desire the alpha male. Just like the beta male, the woman who cannot attract the alpha male has to lower her standards and make false claims for why she "chose" her partner.

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I don't even know where to begin with this bs.

posted November 28, 2010 02:32 AM         

See, why would they do this. I put beautiful men on pedestals (not that I should exactly..) but I know Id do the same if I were a man to a woman. They hate beauty so much they have to go in and control it, so that she wont have that power any longer (beauty is a form of power). It's sort of sick.

"The family dynamic these days is so (...) up, it's ridiculous."
I think what they're doing is dramatizing for comedic effect..but it's no longer comedic when you see children/teenagers acting like the folks on screen, I mean carbon-copy, work-for-word. That's a bit scary, I guess I'm left wondering where the 'real' genuine artifact ran off to..but maybe it is the other way around. I can't believe shows like those get ratings. But then I may be a morose type or whatever cos I was tuned into Six Feet Under like no tomorrow, which isn't exactly the ideal fam situation..