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Swift Freeze
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posted December 08, 2010 05:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Swift Freeze     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I suppose so, I'm generally not to keen on being the decision maker, I prefer to go along with what others say.

Personally I do find it difficult to decide what I really want to do and I do have absolutely no idea what it is I want to do for a career/job or even with my life at all.

No weddings, but a couple of relationships which I ended because it wasn't what I wanted. I don't know if I "lept before I looked" though. I'm fairly reserved when it comes to my own feelings. I'm not always 100% sure that I'm emotionally honest, with others or myself and not too sure how I feel about things a lot of the time.

I definitely do things to extreme, the "too much, too little" most of the time. i.e. drinking too much or doing something not enough. Moderation can be hard.

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posted December 09, 2010 06:56 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Dear Chris
Before I go to the next part,I will summarize this part : the 29 degree placement of the sun and moon.
I think this will give you a sense of standing in the present and being called to both the past and the future .
You will need to stand strong in present time as much as you can.
I see it as kind of Libra dilemma.
You see the possibilities in Situation A and the possibilities in Situation B.
Which should you choose?

I think this will be a life theme as both your Sun and Moon are 29 degrees.

Knowing and understanding it will help you to deal with it.

Other parts of the chart will provide the strength and balance to do so.

That is what I find so fascinating about Astrology.
For every "negative" part of the chart, there is a positive part which has in it the seeds to take you out of your dilemma.

You can see the balance of hard things and easy things , graces and "curses" in every chart,in every life.

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posted December 09, 2010 07:04 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I was wrong, Chris. You do not have Mercury combust the Sun.
Combust is a 5 degree conjunction. Yours os almost 6 degrees.
That is good.
Combust connotes burning,obviously. Mercury, the cool planet of the mind does not like to be burned by the rays of the Sun.
The combust can make the person a hair trigger.
They react in an impulsive way. They can jump first and consider ,later.
This is because their mind does not have the coolness and detachment which Mercury needs to be at it's best.
You have the conjunction which shows great intellectual ability .
Your mind and ego can work well together as a functioning whole.

As always, anyone who knows more than I do, please correct me

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posted December 11, 2010 03:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted December 11, 2010 07:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Swift Freeze     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The Libran theme of A and B is particularly resonant with me I will agree.

Its not modest but I do feel like I have great intellectual capacity for understanding.

No corrections that I have currently.

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posted December 11, 2010 07:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I will look up Mercury Square Uranus, tomorrow.

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posted December 12, 2010 03:36 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

Mercury conjunct Mars in Libra(3 deg)
Mercury square Uranus(exact)
Neptune conjunct Saturn (3 deg)
Saturn conjunct Uranus (6 degree)

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posted December 13, 2010 12:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Dear Chris
You are next on my list

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posted December 14, 2010 08:23 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Dear Chris
Since we were talking last night,I was thinking about squares.
Squares demand certain things. They are the energy of things which do not want to go together.
Hence, the road to finding some way to resolve this is a hard one like a puzzle piece which was made in such a way that it will not go in to the slot ,easily.
The person has to turn it around this way and that,in a solitary journey,perhaps, in order to get it to fit.
Does that seem like it relates to the square aspect,in your mind?

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posted December 14, 2010 08:43 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I am thinking that the oppositions are easier cuz a person can go back and forth between the opposite ends.
The squares seem to demand a compromise and a melding in which a whole new entity is born, a unique way of blending things which do NOT want to blend.

*I* have no squares ,except one generational one and no oppositions,at all so I can only surmise .

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posted December 15, 2010 08:03 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have a square void. I think you could say that cuz I only have a generational one.
I have an total opposition void as well as an earth void

I am understanding the energies of squares and oppositions by talking to you.

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posted December 16, 2010 07:49 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ok, I am gonna look at some squares, today, and maybe oppositions

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posted December 18, 2010 04:56 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I get a sense of you enough, Chris, to look at the synastry, tomorrow

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posted December 18, 2010 01:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ok,Chris, I am finally getting to the synastry. I will go back to your natal,later.
I have two gems ,so far, as to WHY she gets under your skin.
Her Uranus is on your Saturn in your 5th house.
That seems like a huge "Yikes"
The 5th house is the house of the inner child,play, fun,creativity, romance.
You have Saturn there which puts a damper on it for you, to some degree.
THEN, her Uranus comes and shakes up all the old ways you have of being and handling your life in the 5th house realm.
I could see how this could be highly annoying.
In fact, I can't think of a more annoying aspect than someone's Uranus on your Saturn although there must be many

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posted December 18, 2010 01:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Her Mars in near your NN. She has a drive which could propel you forward to your own goals(NN)
Perhaps, that is part of what makes you uncomfortable.
I would suspect so.

Her IC is conjuunct your DC. I would think her IC would be a heavy factor when it is conjunct YOUR partnership Axis, which is going in the opposite "direction" of the IC.
In other words, the part of you that is going forward to make a partnership is conjunct/meeting the part of her which is her early childhood roots.
This would have to have an impact on both of you.

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posted December 18, 2010 01:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Other factors which I will have to look up and ponder are
Your AC conjuncts her MC
Your Venus conjuncts her Pluto
Her Chiron conjuncts your Jupiter


Just throwing some things out here.Your Venus conjuncts her Pluto. I am not sure how close this is.
Conjunctions can be "good" or "bad" as far as how they feel and how they function.
Perhaps, this one feels badly in context of the rest of the chart.
Your AC conjuncts her MC.
I have very little experience with angles in synastry.
People seem to think it feels good and makes people close.
I don't know
He Chiron conjuncts your Jupiter.
I tried to look this up but found nothing so I will have to guess.

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posted December 18, 2010 01:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Chiron is a wild card in synastry, IME.

It can be super powerful for good or drive people to break up the relationship with hard feelings in a strange kind of unpredictable way

How would her Chiron feel on your Jupiter?

Perhaps, it feels irritating.Your planet of good fortune and good feelings(Jupiter) meets with the part of her which is an open,unhealed wound(her Chiron)

So,having said all this, I can see why you might have irritation

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posted December 18, 2010 01:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Her moon conjuncts your stellium( Sun,merc and mars)
You know, when I think about it,I can see the reasons ,above, for irritation, particularly her Uranus conjuncting your Saturn in the 5th house.
However, I could see where this might be a love chart, too, with her moon conjunct your planets.
Hmmmm
I am not very good so will have to leave it at that.
I would love to hear some other opinions or any comments you have,Chris.

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posted December 18, 2010 01:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I am new to synastry but I see the value in getting a feel for the natals,first.
With astrology, there are never any quick fixes which makes it so challenging yet so rewarding ,too.

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posted December 18, 2010 07:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Swift Freeze     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Squares

Puzzle pieces is an apt description, it does seem that there are many different things to integrate into one "perfect" piece, except many of the pieces are either, broken, fragmented or mishapen.

Oppositions

I don't know if oppositions are any easier in all honesty, my Moon oppositions offer a lot of tension and sources of dissatisfaction with every day life, like authority annoys me if I disagree with it, Moon opposite Saturn for example.

Voids

I only have a fire void as you know.

Synastry

The weird thing is, even though I have Saturn in the 5th, I am more child like, easy going and playful than she is, at least I feel so. Driving home this Friday just gone, she was panicky about weather conditions and warned her BF the driver to be careful when filling the windscreen because his engine would be hot. I said "you make him sound like an idiot, relax a little."

She finds things like shopping stressful and washing stressful, she finds cooking stressful and isn't that playful verbally like I am, I tease and joke around a lot and generally am light hearted, she is a lot more serious and grown up about things.

I spilt about a half of some of her hot chocolate and she semi freaked out, I said no big deal I'll replace it for you, at least the kitchen will smell nice! She wasn't happy with me for a while.

She was making cookies and icing them, she spilt some dye on the counter and started freaking out about being charged for replacing the coutner top, we rent currently. I said, "don't worry about it we'll deal with it, the counters needed re decorating anyway." She was again unhappy with me and continued to be worried. She is very routine like whilst I am fairly opposite, she dislikes change whilst I welcome it fairly openly.

In terms of the 5th house Uranus shaking it up, I don't know if shaking up is the right word, I would actually say she dampens my 5th house child like qualities and playfulness in honesty. I find her overbearing and opressive. If anything I would say the roles are reversed strangely. I'm sure the energies of Saturn meeting and Uranus meeting are difficult to deal with.

We haven't spoken much about our goals, she may propel me in a silent unspoken way. Just by being around me and knowing her I guess, alters my decisions.

I don't know about ucomfortable, she seems to want me to not be who I am. Not playful or witty, not to tease or be so lighthearted and less serious about some things.

The IC DC thing probably does have an impact, I do think sharing all our angles, even if they are 90 degrees phased signifies some sort of impact, though I do not have much knowledge either.

Her main wound is with her sister and how her sister treated her, I personally think that it was that but also her interpretation that her father condoned that behaviour when he said he would always love her sister. I don't know how I'd heal that, I gave her suggestions about talking to her father and mother about it and airing her honest deep fealt pains and emotions. She turned it down, whilst she will talk with me about those things, she doesn't consider my advice. Aries Sun perhaps... generalization I know I'm sorry.

Her Moon on my Stellium, the problem is, I don't feel very Virgo like, she is highly critical and worries a lot, concerned and tells others what they should be doing, I know its supposed to be in a helpful way but thats not how I see it. I see it as a controlling way and not understanding way.

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posted December 19, 2010 07:21 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Dear Chris
Last night, I had an insight in to the Jupiter/Chiron conjunction.
Your Jupiter is your"feel good" planet, the place you have a good sense of self and positivity.
HER Chiron is the place she has wounds that never heal.
Her wounding is hitting a place you don't want wounding to be near.

Does that fit? It felt like a fit when it came to me but I want to hear how it hits you .

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posted December 19, 2010 07:29 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Chiron is a very strange planet in synastry. My Venus hit someone's Chiron and it exploded the relationship.
My Mothers Sun hits my Chiron,exact. She came to me, a child, and wanted me to heal her.
You can imagine HOW wonderful that was ,for me lol
My Mercury was on my son's Chiron. We were very close, the closest I have been to a person and the most alike, in understanding.
We had fewer than 10 misunderstandings in his life.It was a very close connection.
It was one of those feelings that you know someone very,very well.
We could never fight cuz we would start laughing lol

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posted December 19, 2010 08:39 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
So,Chris,if you think about it, she is touching your Saturn with her Uranus, your Jupiter with her Chiron, and the strongest stellium you have(Sun,Merc,Mars) with her moon.
Also, I think you have a Venus/Pluto conjunction.
I think it would be intense, for sure !
That is not even mentioning the Axis,which I am not familiar with, really.
People say they are very powerful ,though.
I think you have your reasons in the above

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posted December 19, 2010 03:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I just had an insight in to your Mars,Chris, and mine, too.
Your Libra Mars is in detriment.My Cancer Mars is in it's Fall.
Your Mars will think out situations rather than go with your basic drive as a Scorpio Mars would, for example.
Mine just walks sideways as the crab does and can't figure out WHAT it is doing
I really am not that familiar with many Mars so I cannot comment on more than those 3,I think.

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posted December 20, 2010 09:23 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I had some more thoughts about the fire void and the Libra and Cancer Mars.
If I don't write them here, remind me to tell you

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