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NickiG
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posted December 09, 2010 04:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for NickiG     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
oooh...was glaucus talking about another anti-astrology guy? my bad

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BearsArcher
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posted December 09, 2010 04:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for BearsArcher     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Here is his FAQ page. He gives his age as 26 years old but I am not sure when it was last updated
http://www.thebestpageintheuniverse.net/c.cgi?u=faq

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raspberri
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posted December 09, 2010 04:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for raspberri     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Like who?

You cannot be living in your last incarnation without having grasped every aspect of life. People who are into astrology, and 'spiritual' things have bypassed many other lessons in order to understand the mystical ways of the universe.

Remember, PISCES is the last zodiac sign, ruling astrology.

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BanxManx
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posted December 09, 2010 04:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for BanxManx     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by NickiG:
the person who wrote that is a flaming idiot...all of the "new age" stuff he was going on about has been around for centuries...since before Christ....there is an ancient telescope in China and South America, both are thousands of years old..and that is only two examples out of hundreds

OMG, glaucus...you wrote again!! are you back for good?


I think the point that he was making is that a lot of young middle class girls and older housewives move from one religion to the next to spirituality to something else and so on because they are lost and searching for anything. This is true. A lot of people go through religion and spirituality like it is a fad but of course this isn't true of everyone.
Yeah Glaucus was referring to someone else.

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BanxManx
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posted December 09, 2010 05:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for BanxManx     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by raspberri:
Like who?

You cannot be living in your last incarnation without having grasped every aspect of life. People who are into astrology, and 'spiritual' things have bypassed many other lessons in order to understand the mystical ways of the universe.


Remember, PISCES is the last zodiac sign, ruling astrology.



Your last incarnation? Who says this is your last incarnation? There are people who have actually gone beyond astrology. They were master astrologers in a previous life and now they are, how do I say this, "doing" or they are living without the need to figure things out. The most advanced people I think are the ones who are completely invested in their creation. They live life as opposed to having need to analyze life.

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NickiG
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posted December 09, 2010 05:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for NickiG     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
then wouldnt "spirituality" be the last thing these "confused women" land on? and its very demeaning to say that its only teenage girls and middle age house wives are the only ones into all of this "new age" stuff..

and thanks for clarifying on the guy glaucus was referring to

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raspberri
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posted December 09, 2010 05:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for raspberri     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
And what is beyond astrology? Enlighten me?

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raspberri
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posted December 09, 2010 05:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for raspberri     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have read that people who are advanced souls are attracted to astrology.

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raspberri
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posted December 09, 2010 05:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for raspberri     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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BanxManx
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posted December 09, 2010 05:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for BanxManx     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by NickiG:
then wouldnt "spirituality" be the last thing these "confused women" land on? and its very demeaning to say that its only teenage girls and middle age house wives are the only ones into all of this "new age" stuff..

and thanks for clarifying on the guy glaucus was referring to


It isn't only teenage girls and middle aged housewives, you are right but they are the majority. And no problem.

I think that everyone on this forum, me included, are a step away from our full potential. We will truly be advanced when we are able to leave this place (the internet) and live life by creating or constantly helping others.

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BanxManx
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posted December 09, 2010 05:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for BanxManx     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by raspberri:
And what is beyond astrology? Enlighten me?

It is becoming the "artist". It is finding your craft, your way of contributing to the world and being completely absorbed in it. To truly live life without interpretation. To do away with analysis and act. You will have no need to study astrology, to find out what is going to happen because you will be too busy contributing to the world. Whatever consequences come won't matter when you reach this level, you will understand your purpose and you will act on it.

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BanxManx
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posted December 09, 2010 05:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for BanxManx     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by raspberri:
I have read that people who are advanced souls are attracted to astrology.

That is true. Advanced people are drawn to astrology but these are "advanced people". Everyone on this forum is advanced to some degree or another or they wouldn't be here. These advanced people, aren't the masters though. None of us are masters. The master is the one who truly lives.

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raspberri
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posted December 09, 2010 05:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for raspberri     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I disagree with what you are saying.

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BanxManx
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posted December 09, 2010 05:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for BanxManx     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by raspberri:
I disagree with what you are saying.

That is alright.

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NickiG
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posted December 09, 2010 05:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for NickiG     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
i want to respond but have no idea what to say, lol...just want you to know, banx, i read what you said and on some level i agree with both you and raspberri

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posted December 09, 2010 05:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for blonderiverkat     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Spirituality definitely has nothing to do with religion...religion is man made.

I agree with Banx in regards to 'old souls' having no clue in regards to astrology and spiritual matters. I am 50 now, and had no clue about the true meanings of astrology and other spiritual matters. This past year has felt as if I am living a movie...experiences that I would have scoffed at a few years back, and I have no doubt I am an old soul.
My kids dad passed away a few months ago, he drank himself to death...in doing his chart, he was an old soul I am sure. He denied his gifts for whatever reason. My mom, to look at her chart, appears to be an extremely gifted woman...both of them btw with an 11 as their lifepath number. My mom always knew when something was going to happen when I was younger. Now her response is, 'I am too old for all of that', she scoffs at my beliefs. Alot of people don't start to 'wake up' until later in life. Some are just not destined to 'wake up' in this lifetime, so they can do it all again. I am hoping that I can get off of this place this time around...Why I agreed to come here, I don't know yet, but I am desperately trying to find out...for myself and my loved ones. Just remember idiots can be old souls...it's called free will. You never know, he may come around, alot are nowadays...

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raspberri
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posted December 09, 2010 05:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for raspberri     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You cant just assume people are old souls without proving it first.

I know someone in his last incarnation. I will show you the chart of an old soul.

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BanxManx
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posted December 09, 2010 05:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for BanxManx     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by NickiG:
i want to respond but have no idea what to say, lol...just want you to know, banx, i read what you said and on some level i agree with both you and raspberri


Cool NickiG. Well you can tell us on what points you agree with and which ones you disagree with.

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BanxManx
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posted December 09, 2010 05:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for BanxManx     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by blonderiverkat:
Spirituality definitely has nothing to do with religion...religion is man made.

I agree with Banx in regards to 'old souls' having no clue in regards to astrology and spiritual matters. I am 50 now, and had no clue about the true meanings of astrology and other spiritual matters. This past year has felt as if I am living a movie...experiences that I would have scoffed at a few years back, and I have no doubt I am an old soul.
My kids dad passed away a few months ago, he drank himself to death...in doing his chart, he was an old soul I am sure. He denied his gifts for whatever reason. My mom, to look at her chart, appears to be an extremely gifted woman...both of them btw with an 11 as their lifepath number. My mom always knew when something was going to happen when I was younger. Now her response is, 'I am too old for all of that', she scoffs at my beliefs. Alot of people don't start to 'wake up' until later in life. Some are just not destined to 'wake up' in this lifetime, so they can do it all again. I am hoping that I can get off of this place this time around...Why I agreed to come here, I don't know yet, but I am desperately trying to find out...for myself and my loved ones. Just remember idiots can be old souls...it's called free will. You never know, he may come around, alot are nowadays...


Nice response Kat!

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Crona
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posted December 09, 2010 05:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Crona     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It's nice to consider both sides of astrology, but this guy sounds like an irrational cynic with a huge log up his arse.

It would be different and more insightful, if I could take him seriously, but he's just ranting and throwing a temper tantruam like a 3 year old.

There are other's out there that are anti-atrology that made their point across, without all the negativity and cynic BS.

Do I believe in astrology?

I have more studying to do before I can give a definite answer, but I definately will not take this guy's word on it.

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BanxManx
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posted December 09, 2010 05:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for BanxManx     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by raspberri:
You cant just assume people are old souls without proving it first.

I know someone in his last incarnation. I will show you the chart of an old soul.


There are old souls who recognize fellow old souls. haha. You don't need a chart for this. A lot of old souls on the forum will testify to this. They know when they are with an old soul.

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raspberri
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posted December 09, 2010 05:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for raspberri     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Free will?

Old souls, even when exercising free will, are aware of what they are doing. And it will always be in line with their soul purpose.

If you know what an old soul is astrology wise, I would love to hear what you think are the signs?

I need proof. It can be shown when someone is an old soul.

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raspberri
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posted December 09, 2010 05:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for raspberri     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Old souls do not have Karma people. Someone in their last incarnation does not have bad karma.

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NickiG
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posted December 09, 2010 05:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for NickiG     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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And what is beyond astrology? Enlighten me?

quote:
It is becoming the "artist". It is finding your craft, your way of contributing to the world and being completely absorbed in it. To truly live life without interpretation. To do away with analysis and act. You will have no need to study astrology, to find out what is going to happen because you will be too busy contributing to the world. Whatever consequences come won't matter when you reach this level, you will understand your purpose and you will act on it.

i agree with you here banx, but i dont think its beyond astrology...i think its an extension or advanced part of spirituality, its closer to ascension and enlightenment than someone who is just spiritual..they are aware of their gifts and use them

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blonderiverkat
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posted December 09, 2010 05:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for blonderiverkat     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
raspberri...I FEEL as if I am an old soul, but being new to astrology, I can't look at my chart to tell you...someone on this site told me I was a powerful soul by looking at my chart, she just never finished explaining anything in detail, so I could understand...would you care to take a look? Tell me what you see? Good way to show an example of someone who is an old soul, or....just tired of the bs on this 'planet'...Are you on? I am quite sure I could show you a couple of very interesting charts...

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