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Ami Anne
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posted December 12, 2010 09:45 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Wow Mir,
You ,truly,mean it. Please ,tell me what your thought processes were in MAKING that decision if you could.
I ask that for a personal reason.
If you could explain ,in detail,it would help

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posted December 12, 2010 09:45 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
not me raymond. my mom was 31 and i was her first...she was considered quite old to be "starting" a family in those days. i remember thinking she was MUCH older than my friends' moms, funnily i was the same age when my first was born.

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posted December 12, 2010 01:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ursa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have always felt that a combination of pisces and leo in the natal chart are capable of achieving beautiful synergy.
Says the leo asc with sun in pisces! Leo and pisces both want harmony and joy and we love relating to others- the qualities of the sun of leo and the jupiter of pisces- I can really identify with jupiter (perhaps because of my neptune in sag).

Mir and katatonic nail pisces tendencies. Day dreaming, avoidance, oblivion, solitude, drugs and alcohol, fear of making choices because a choice involves exclusion. Thank god for my cap moon! Fantasy life is outrageous and consuming but it has to be brought back into a practical realm.

I want to have intimacy with everything and it took me a very long time to learn how to guide my tendencies into useful behavior. Encountering any sort of negative vibe from others used to send me into a pit of absolute devastation, for instance.
The arts and relating to the sorrows of the world had to combine in the path I chose.

I think two things are paramount to understanding how we operate, first is the lack of boundary between self-other. If a pisces can't define himself (for himself) in relation to other people he is lost to himself. I absorb so much information from an environment that self definition is important for my survival. Isolating helps this process but once you practice it, you need less and less. The fish in water, breathing water.

The second is choices. Making a choice means that we have excluded a possibility. We like the freedom of possibility. If we aren't making firm choices I think we haven't realized that we are human yet. This is the source of neptunian delusion in my opinion.
If we can imagine 50 possible points of view, when do we know the authentic one? Are they all equally valid? If all imagined pov have equal validity what is "true"? I find this thinking very aligned with the perception of pisces as a religious sign and in that I find the philosophical bent of jupiter.

I've certainly written enough here but this is my thinking about my own sign. All of these traits are probably twice as difficult for pisces moons, I'm glad I only have sun in pisces because the road to oneself is very hard for this sign.

The fish has to learn to live on earth.

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posted December 12, 2010 03:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lonake     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ursa,
I have the exact same combination: Pisces Sun, Capricorn Moon, Leo Asc, Neptune Sadge.

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posted December 12, 2010 05:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for vertiver     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes, Glaucus, my mother had just turned 18 when she had me, and my Dad was 19, so both parents were really young.

But my mom never had any children besides me in fact she says that having me was very fated. I've been looking into our synastry lately and we have a double whammy Mars conjunct Chiron, so my Chiron is conjunct her Mars and her Chiron is cojunct my Mars, weird, I have no idea what that means.

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posted December 12, 2010 07:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for StarrofVenusGirl     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Taking fish oil with its Omega 3 fatty acids DHA,EPA help make me less sensitive and emotional
A multivitamin with a strong vitamin B complex and zinc also helps too

Thank you Glaucus. That is helpful.

I have Pisces rising in an anaretic degree, and also Neptune closely squares my Sun. I can relate to a lot of these Piscean characteristics. Both negative and positive.

No young mother Raymond. She was 26.

I do get easily overstimulated by bright lights and noise, especially in small enclosed spaces. As much as I love children, I can only tolerate places like Chuck-E-Cheese for so long. It's really agony to be there. Way too much going on.

I don't mind if there is enough space. But the combination of small space + overly stimulated will make me ill.

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posted December 12, 2010 08:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ursa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Lonake-
So, you're the one I remember! I get user names/charts confused but I knew that one or two posters had the same placements as me. I always appreciate reading your posts and I'd like to say that I can sense your capricorn moon.

Sun @ 21, moon @ 22 and AC @ 10

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posted December 12, 2010 10:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Agent_009     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Does anyone have or know of someone with PISCES MOON conjunct NEPTUNE?? especially in the 1st House??

Would this make it "worse," in the sense of escapism or having a solid back bone in life?

GLAUCUS,
What are your opinions on that?? Also if you could would you take a look at this baby's chart I posted up on this thread. Thanks! -->
http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum24/HTML/206280.html

I dont know why I feel so concerned for this baby with all this Pisces/Neptunian/12H energy. Like she'll have a really tough early life.

LONAKE,
I noticed you saying you have Pisces Sun & Cap Moon....
Which happens to be exactly opposite of what this baby has. How do you find that playing out for you in life?? Which do you find is stronger?? your Sun or Moon?

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posted December 13, 2010 03:43 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lonake     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Ursa,
Oh, I didn't read that you remembered anyone, I just saw you mentioning your signs and I'm like, wait! is that me?? lol I'm bad with usernames too, remembering personas, etc. o well....Oh and I'm Sun @ 1, Moon @ 27 & Asc @ 2. So our Moons are conj & my Venus is @ 25 Cap, coooool. Do you have Merc in Aqua, too? Oh and are you on Astrofaces? I'm there I think I'm the pic on the right, but one gal has lighter hair and the other has darker, I'm the one with darker hair. Or if you want I can post my pic here? Just for you to laugh at to see if we look alike You saw my thread on Gemini rising? I'm gonna do one on Leo rising later in the month, after I refine that one to add more pics. So you'll like that one as much as I do

There's been others on here with Leo asc & Pisces Sun but they dont stick around..but none with Cap Moon that I recall.

P.S.,
You may be sensing my Saturn in the 3rd (har har)? But then again I have Mars there too.
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Agent, Oh are you the one that posted the thread about the little girl you look after?? Yes I agree with escapism in the sense of the real world not being enough at times, or maybe feeling overwhelmed. Another funny thing is they act how they think you want to see them, they act to fit your ideal of them, so there can be a problem with showing their true selves, you get to wonder whether they do have one at all? And then apparently they start to wonder who the heck they really are (speaking of Neptune asc here).

Oh she has Sun Capricorn, Moon Pisces...my close friend as a teenager had this combo..Well she was quite sensitive but did not let on about this, and covered it up with a certain toughness, but her eyes were so beautiful and like typical Pisces swimming pools, but she was also somewhat inscrutable. I felt bad for her, because she had an abusive background which she kept quiet about for a long time, about a year into our friendship, her stepfather molesting her for example, so there was something in her that didn't have the strength to fight, or that could be easily led, and she didn't want to say anything. I'm the one that actually made her tell a teacher at school after she had kept quiet for yrs, then her mother kicked her out, and I begged my family to take her in which they did. Anyway, I see it as a very sensitive combination. A celebrity I can think of with that combo is Michael Stipe of R.E.M. music group, who also comes across as quite vulnerable under a cloak of a more stern persona. My friend was also quite quiet, but she had Mercury in Capricorn, which I think may have added to that. All I can say for that little girl, and for other Pisces Moons, is that they are very sensitive and they need to be in a healthy and positive environment, because they can be easily influenced and become morose, esp. with that Capricorn, she needs uplifting and someone around who is solid to be someone to look up to, cos Pisces needs that strong anchor, and Capricorn Sun would benefit from a stable and responsible guide, that child would definitely need stable routines that also include times to paint or draw or just toy around with the imagination, and music will be very powerful for her, she may be gifted in that realm.

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Ami Anne
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posted December 13, 2010 08:02 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Dear Lonake
I have never seen your pix. Could you post it,please ?

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posted December 13, 2010 11:29 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for mir     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Okay Ami, about the thought-process..

The morning after his call I woke up and I got negative thoughts.
Deep inside me I feel so left in the lurch by all those escapist moments I was bombarded with... and some specific examples that I had in mind made it even worse, while he just called as if nothing ever happened (inherent to him aaaghhh - as if there's NO past! - as if we are every moment in life a tabula rasa!). I felt angry that morning. And.. then I got the horrible pain which reminded me to the more peaceful weeks without him, as if I had forgotten how to live with less frustration all those months that we were together. The anger culminated (!!) .. so I took the phone to let him know in sublimated form..


This is also a Pisces/asc-Leo .. okay, if there are/were NO problems.. then I admit that it's the best one can have (said by Leo-Sun in the 12th)

Well said about the choices etc. Ursa.

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posted December 13, 2010 11:56 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Glaucus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

My biological father had Sun in Capricorn and Moon in Pisces combination like both Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. and Elvis Presley. He had the idealism of the former and the addictions of the latter.

He had Sun-Mercury conjunction in Capricorn trine Jupiter-Saturn conjunction in Taurus. His Uranus was also in Taurus. He had Neptune in Virgo.

For all his earth, he was not a very grounded person at all. He was a drug addict/dealer,was in prison multiple times,diagnosed as a paranoid schizophrenic by prison psychiatrists,and disappeared without a trace when I was a year old. He was a very superstitious person. He was very insecure. He was not a practical person that was good with the mundane things. He was an ultrasensitive and highly emotional person that was capable of overreacting and having emotional meltdowns.

Born on Jan 2, 1941, he was a neurodivergent Black Creole man born and raised in Louisiana during the days of Jim Crow segregation laws that were throughout the Southern USA.


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Developmental Neurodiversity Association facebook group. http://www.facebook.com/#!/group.php?gid=131944976821905&ref=ts

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posted December 13, 2010 12:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I am sure you suffered greatly,Raymond,with a father who was not able to be there for you,in any real way.
I am sorry

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posted December 13, 2010 12:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Dear Mir,
Are you ,totally, sure you will not go back?
Was it a break, for good,for always?

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posted December 13, 2010 12:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Glaucus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

It's ok.

I had a stepfather that I first knew back when I was almost 3 years old, and that I last saw when I was 18. He was my father figure for 15 years.


Things happen for a reason.

If I grew up with my biological father, my domestic environment would have been a lot more unstable.


Even though my stepfather was very strict, there was stability and security.


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No..I am not a Virgo.

Developmental Neurodiversity Association facebook group.
http://www.facebook.com/#!/group.php?gid=131944976821905&ref=ts

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posted December 13, 2010 01:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mir     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes it must be, because.. I'm not part of his dreams in which he can settle himself, have kids etc. (because I can't).
He will not rest until his dreams come true.. (or obviously can't/haven't come true).

I can't live around all these devastating doubts any longer because... I will see (and saw) every escapist behavior as the result of me not meeting his needs (that's more worse than being alone).

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posted December 13, 2010 02:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lonake     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

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posted December 13, 2010 03:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You are so pretty,Lonake.You remind me of Susan Lucci

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posted December 13, 2010 03:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Dear Mir
When I read your post about leaving him, I thought that there is a season for everything.
I am sorry for the pain you must be experiencing.
I know how much you cared

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posted December 13, 2010 05:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Agent_009     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Lonake,

Thanks so much for sharing your friend's experiences. Yup it's that 10 month old baby. I actually havent interacted with her much, as I just work with the DIR. I think I feel this concern for her cuz I believe I do know her soul from past incarnations. Also because she's born on a 18/9 day...and children born on a 9 day have a really difficult childhood cut out for them. I know I have. I've read, karmically a 9 Bday brings a tough childhood so to accelerate the person's soul growth faster than any of the other #'s. Having experienced being the underdog, it makes 9's want to be a protector for other underdogs & have empathetic sympathy for humanity as a whole. I know much of her chart shares similar major aspects as mine. However I'm Earth & mostly Air, Baby is Earth/Water. I just feel like she'll be overwhelmed with all that water & will have a much harder time handling the pressures of 9. Not to mention the fact she'll be growing up in the Entertainment Industry (which I did not). It's a double edged sword for her, being amongst privileged, egos & drugs. Being around this scene has some of the worst vibes, (if you are even tiny bit psychic), but Baby will be super psychic. Even James Van Praagh has written about Hollywood/Film industry being the worst epicenter in his book about Ghosts. I feel it too. I did learn through the DIR, that baby's Grandpa & Aunt were both institutionalized from mental illness. On the DIR's side, few family members do have psychic powers. So these 2 things run prominently in her genes. The mental illness is a HUGE red flag.

Glaucus,
Thanks for sharing that about your dad. Although now it really makes me worried! It's good to know MLK has that configuration, cuz when I first looked at Baby's chart...I felt like she would do something great for humanity too.

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posted December 18, 2010 01:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ursa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Had to resurrect this to respond to you Lonake-

You're extremely cute, I'm glad you posted a picture. You seem less bogged down in earth than I am, I have jupiter in cap too, not conjunct moon in the 5th house. I like other cap moons a great deal, I've noticed that I feel safest with people with cap placements.

I have more planets in earth than I'd like. I wish I felt safe posting pictures online but I usually don't. I have always been considered attractive even though cap moon in the 6th disagrees. My hair is darker but not true brunette,green eyes, big lips and rosy cheeks. Taurus placements (venus/MC, mars) give generously to the feminine form so I've never been waif-like and have large bone structure. I've been told I look like Uma Thurman and Kate Winslet and I could see the Kate Winslet years ago.

I have mercury in aries, heavily afflicted.

I'm not registered at the site you mentioned, I tend to post infrequently though I read a lot. Had to respond to you though. I see something in the way that you are smiling that I recognize. You have sun in the 7th?

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posted December 18, 2010 01:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ursa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Oh, I did see the gem rising thread, my son is gemini rising with cap sun/pisces moon, hence my interest in these threads. I look forward to the leo asc thread, maybe I will post a drawing?

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posted December 18, 2010 04:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lonake     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Oh that's awesome, you 2 have reversed sun & moon. My closest friend in HS was the same.
My baby has Moon in pisces conj my sun; she emotes more in front of me than anyone else, lucky me, lol.

I'm looking forward to the leo rising thread too, I just finished the fall term so yessss now I have more room to breathe.

Actually the Sun is in the 8th, square Uranus in Sadge....Moon/Venus are my only earth placements. Technically my chart is Air dominant. The 7th....maybe you're seeing the Air? I have Mars/Saturn/Pluto in Libra.

I'll be eagerly awaiting a drawing for you to add to the Leo thread

p.s.
To find the element dominance you can go to astro.com, select the Pullen chart from the menu and it will show a whole host of funny bits about your chart.
Also Donna Cunningham started a series on element strengths, she has 2 so far posted, http://skywriter.wordpress.com/2010/10/13/are-you-a-water-type-here%E2%80%99s-the-score/ http://skywriter.wordpress.com/2010/11/27/are-you-a-fire-type-here%E2%80%99s-the-score/

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posted May 05, 2015 02:04 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Eirlys     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Ursa:
... All of these traits are probably twice as difficult for pisces moons, I'm glad I only have sun in pisces because the road to oneself is very hard for this sign.

The fish has to learn to live on earth.



There is some associated discomfort, to be sure. lol

But why is it twice as difficult for the Moons in Pisces?

That isn't the first time I've heard that.


* Edit: just saw hold old this thread is...

got here via LL Search.

But still curious, if anyone else can answer.

Thank you

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