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Topic: Some more info
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roadwarriorsdp Knowflake Posts: 268 From: Registered: Nov 2010
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posted December 18, 2010 08:39 PM
more info on the mandala nature of a natal chart...if you look at a swastica and overlap it with the madra, you will see where the shadow of each of the four major points seeds. then you can see what signs are in teh shadow, and you can begin to seperate yourself into two parts with respect to every aspect of your life.
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raspberri Knowflake Posts: 2362 From: venus Registered: Jan 2010
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posted December 18, 2010 08:43 PM
How can I find this? Never heard of anything you said except the shadow.IP: Logged |
roadwarriorsdp Knowflake Posts: 268 From: Registered: Nov 2010
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posted December 18, 2010 08:53 PM
It's a logical deduction....The axis makes a cross, the shadow of which outlines the arc of the circle to the left or up or down or right depending on the side....find the point and move backwords... I know that the circle works like this because of Jung and his work on mandalas...
It's a correct inference there are no errors...the shadow of the house is behindit. and the shadow of the mc is behind it... the shadow of anything is behind it from teh perspective of looking at it while its facing the light.
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roadwarriorsdp Knowflake Posts: 268 From: Registered: Nov 2010
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posted December 18, 2010 08:54 PM
it makes sense. The worst atrocities under man were committed under the symbol, and the symbol is derived from the cross, and teh cross is derived from teh circle...therefore it is the shadow of the cross.IP: Logged |
raspberri Knowflake Posts: 2362 From: venus Registered: Jan 2010
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posted December 18, 2010 08:56 PM
Hmm can you help me find mine?IP: Logged |
roadwarriorsdp Knowflake Posts: 268 From: Registered: Nov 2010
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posted December 18, 2010 08:58 PM
the circle is symbolized more concisely but less effectively as teh square....the symbol of the circle is too difficult for the laymen who has not the time nor patience to learn it...nor does he see any value...things of four predicate the presence of something circular........essentially you could visualize this by picturing a cross elevated from a circle...but attached to it...the cross part is above the water...the circle is below the water.... what precludes us from embelishing the circle as a power as potent as the cross, symbolicaly speaking, is are limitation to think linearly. IP: Logged |
roadwarriorsdp Knowflake Posts: 268 From: Registered: Nov 2010
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posted December 18, 2010 08:59 PM
your shadow? Your total and complete duality?IP: Logged |
raspberri Knowflake Posts: 2362 From: venus Registered: Jan 2010
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posted December 18, 2010 08:59 PM
Yes.IP: Logged |
roadwarriorsdp Knowflake Posts: 268 From: Registered: Nov 2010
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posted December 18, 2010 09:08 PM
When I'm done with Banx's chart, repost yours and ill outline it for your in an organized manner...Ill point out all the shadow points in the circle. Another thing to remember is that all things grow from the center out, both left and right...another aspect of the multidimensional mandal or a symbol that represents non-linear time coherently and in a unified manner that works the same no matter where you start on it... mouthfuls i know... I would upload these jungian books I have....he's good to read because he compares all things to each toher...it's very objective in nature... for example he illuminates on the nature of symbolism in dreams and how they relate to the zodiac, christianity, and other spiritual practices. and he comes to the same conclusion by all of them
that four is a shortcut to the circle, a way to navigate the circle non-linearly, a reconciliation between something that needs to be reduced for functional purposes, at the expense of the whole. IP: Logged |
roadwarriorsdp Knowflake Posts: 268 From: Registered: Nov 2010
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posted December 18, 2010 09:10 PM
The FAther, Son, holy spirit, mother marryearth, water, air, fire are different places on the same circle. IP: Logged |
raspberri Knowflake Posts: 2362 From: venus Registered: Jan 2010
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posted December 18, 2010 09:12 PM
Let me know when u want to see my chart. ty!IP: Logged |
roadwarriorsdp Knowflake Posts: 268 From: Registered: Nov 2010
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posted December 18, 2010 09:12 PM
I'm going to have to a take a break for a while...I may not be back on until tomorrow but I'm fatigued thanks for giving me a chance to look at banx's chart...I'm assuming he is your significant other, so to speak.If so then get him to upload a picture...I want to put a face to the chart, or link me to a picture, if you can an ddo have time...thank you..or just tell him to upload it himself lol, I don't think he's on...also tell him to look over what I wrote so far if he gets a chance...I've pretty much been meditating on his chart so I have a feel of what's lacking....and i have a feel of what i'm lacking now....more specifically, for i knew generally also upload your chart to this thread, and I will bookmark it and highlight the points of that represent the shadow in the circle. IP: Logged |
raspberri Knowflake Posts: 2362 From: venus Registered: Jan 2010
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posted December 18, 2010 09:16 PM
Lol.No we are not an item. I don't even know him. IP: Logged |
roadwarriorsdp Knowflake Posts: 268 From: Registered: Nov 2010
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posted December 18, 2010 09:40 PM
oh....hopefuly het gets on soon then and reads well...I'm off and on here probably for a bit more and then i may break...remember to upload your chart again when you get a chance... I'll right a narattive for you involving your first house as well sooner or later... I'll probably be here a while. IP: Logged |
amowls* Knowflake Posts: 2042 From: richmond va Registered: Apr 2009
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posted December 18, 2010 11:16 PM
quote: it makes sense. The worst atrocities under man were committed under the symbol, and the symbol is derived from the cross, and teh cross is derived from teh circle...therefore it is the shadow of the cross.
I'm assuming you mean the Nazi swastika, which is a turned Buddhist symbol that is centuries older than the 1940s. IP: Logged |
raspberri Knowflake Posts: 2362 From: venus Registered: Jan 2010
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posted December 18, 2010 11:35 PM
Here is my chart. IP: Logged |
roadwarriorsdp Knowflake Posts: 268 From: Registered: Nov 2010
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posted December 18, 2010 11:46 PM
yeah.......IP: Logged |
roadwarriorsdp Knowflake Posts: 268 From: Registered: Nov 2010
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posted December 18, 2010 11:52 PM
take the shadow of each house and place it on on the corresponding fourth point to dilineate it...The shadow of the ascendant is flowed into by the shadows of the 11,th 12th, and 1st house.... the shadow of the IC is flowed into by teh shadow of the second third and fourth the shadow of the decendant is flowed into by the fifth sixth and seventh.... and the shadow of the mc is flowed into by the 8th 9th and 10th. You have four sides, each one a light and a dark we are talking about the dark now each dark is made of three other darks that flow into it based on the very theories of the charts progression.... what we're doing is isolating the shadow and overlaying it neatly on the three parts...essentially aggregating it...they do this in accounting when they want to seperate and expense from a revenue from a gross number that spans across multiple accounts... IP: Logged |
roadwarriorsdp Knowflake Posts: 268 From: Registered: Nov 2010
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posted December 19, 2010 12:02 AM
Ill run it through....Psi is in the shadow of the second house, you use 5-10 degrees behind the house, the part that goes into the previous house. Psy is there for the second house...remember we start one after here....but in a way you can say that the part of the shadow in the first is also carried forward...but for simplicities sake we'll keep it this way...it doesn't matter anyways cause once you do it a few times you'll probably do it that way naturally and then see how once the volume of the circle is filled it spirals up...filled with experience that is not dark or light...that's a dichotomy of the total experience wer ejust dilineating it. anyways the shadow of the second house is psi and pluto in scorpio energy...they usually say that this is going to just mean the effects of the planet are going to be in the second, but by syncronicity and the law of correspondence we can means this to be the shadow of teh total self, since teh symbol or word shadow has this effect on us subconciously... the shadow of the third house is sagitarian with the ant star constellation, and the shadow of the fourth house is uranian and saturnine retrograde with capricorn...
so now you have those three shadows form each house combine them and that is the shadow of the IC.... IP: Logged |
raspberri Knowflake Posts: 2362 From: venus Registered: Jan 2010
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posted December 19, 2010 12:05 AM
How am I suppose to combine them?IP: Logged |
roadwarriorsdp Knowflake Posts: 268 From: Registered: Nov 2010
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posted December 19, 2010 12:07 AM
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raspberri Knowflake Posts: 2362 From: venus Registered: Jan 2010
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posted December 19, 2010 12:08 AM
I combine to make one energy or something? Sorry Im being a mental midget. IP: Logged |
roadwarriorsdp Knowflake Posts: 268 From: Registered: Nov 2010
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posted December 19, 2010 12:10 AM
Ummm I could recite an alchemical saying but it might just **** you off"With great skill and care" but that just basically means meditate on it... Essentially I would just say that the shadow side of your home life is going to be involved with those planets and energies we mentioned....you kind of already knew that, you just didn't have a way to put it on the circle without moving through the entire houses before... IP: Logged |
raspberri Knowflake Posts: 2362 From: venus Registered: Jan 2010
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posted December 19, 2010 12:11 AM
Go ahead.IP: Logged |
roadwarriorsdp Knowflake Posts: 268 From: Registered: Nov 2010
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posted December 19, 2010 12:12 AM
You knew it cause we say that the parts of the chart expressed or seen are the four points, so at any point if you want to show your shadow, what your doing is what we just did...obviously your mind does it faster and without thinking about it.....
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