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Topic: Pleading for Help!! Horary chart for missing Engagement Ring :(
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Virgo-AriesArtist
Knowflake Posts: 427
From: Michigan :)
Registered: Jun 2009
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posted December 24, 2010 11:51 PM
  
Hey Knowflakes,I don't know very much about horary charts, but I am in a bit of panic and hope you can shed a little light on my challenge, pretty please? I removed my engagment ring (after removing it to make cookies) at my Grandmother's house on Sunday, and thought I accidently left it there, so didn't think to worry til I returned there today, and she has not seen it anywhere around. I scoured the kitchen and every other place I could think to have set it down, and so far, no luck  I am hoping this chart gives a clearer clue. I am so freaked to have been soo thoughtless, then again, it its Merc. Rx, and I should know better... Here is the chart:
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PlutoSquared
Knowflake Posts: 4500
From: Mars
Registered: Aug 2010
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posted December 24, 2010 11:58 PM
If I were you, I'd check the drain, around the floor around in the kitchen, and ask her what she did with the bags of trash...IP: Logged |
PlutoSquared
Knowflake Posts: 4500
From: Mars
Registered: Aug 2010
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posted December 25, 2010 12:04 AM
No one was at the house, either? Except for you and your grandmother?I'd say a prayer to St. Anthony for the return of lost objects. Sounds strange, but someone I know always does this, and ALWAYS can find missing things... It's worth a try  IP: Logged |
Virgo-AriesArtist
Knowflake Posts: 427
From: Michigan :)
Registered: Jun 2009
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posted December 25, 2010 12:07 AM
I'll ask her about the trash tomorrow. I'm prarying all is well. I think my mom took the trash home for trash day....It was just my mom, Gram and me. I did check the kitchen floor, but not the drain...my mom put veggies down the disposal today, so I'm hoping it's not there either...Thanks for the idea about St. Anthony. I'll do that right now  IP: Logged |
raspberri
Knowflake Posts: 2550
From: venus
Registered: Jan 2010
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posted December 25, 2010 12:11 AM
Saturn is in the first... not sure if chart can be read.
2nd house is ruled by Venus, Venus in the 2nd house. Saturn is ruled by Venus in the 1st house. Sure it's not on you?IP: Logged |
Virgo-AriesArtist
Knowflake Posts: 427
From: Michigan :)
Registered: Jun 2009
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posted December 25, 2010 12:15 AM
raspberri, I've checked all my coat pockets, and the poskets of the pants I was wearing that day, and my purse too...I wish it was on me.
What does the whole Saturn in the 1st mean the chart can't be read? Is there a more auspicious time to ask the question?IP: Logged |
raspberri
Knowflake Posts: 2550
From: venus
Registered: Jan 2010
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posted December 25, 2010 12:19 AM
Were you with a friend when you lost it?IP: Logged |
Virgo-AriesArtist
Knowflake Posts: 427
From: Michigan :)
Registered: Jun 2009
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posted December 25, 2010 12:21 AM
raspberri, I was with my mom and Gram when I "lost" it. I didn't even know it was lost til I went to retrieve it today.IP: Logged |
Geocosmic* Valentine
Knowflake Posts: 1191
From: New York, NY
Registered: Apr 2009
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posted December 25, 2010 02:27 AM
This is very important for a horary chart. You have to ask a question!"Where is my engagement ring?"
"Will I find my engagement ring?" You could go on and on such as "What part of my grandmother's house is my engagement ring in?" But it's probably best to just stick with the very first question, but YOU have to ask it. Your first chart will not give a clear answer if we don't know the exact question. IP: Logged |
amowls**
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posted December 25, 2010 03:25 AM
What Geo said, plus post it with Regiomontanus chart.Anyway... have you looked in your purse or anything? Or car, even. IP: Logged |
Virgo-AriesArtist
Knowflake Posts: 427
From: Michigan :)
Registered: Jun 2009
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posted December 25, 2010 08:57 AM
*amowls, I did check my purse, but I'll check the car again. The point my fiance made last night was since my Gram has pretty bad short term memory loss (she's 89), she may have put it away and not remember.Geo, The question I originally asked was "Where is my ring?" Perhaps I will cast a new chart since I didn't specify which ring. Ok, here goes: "Where is my engagement ring?" Here is the regular chart for the new question above:
 Here is the same chart with Regiomontanus house system:
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PlutoSquared
Knowflake Posts: 4500
From: Mars
Registered: Aug 2010
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posted December 25, 2010 12:18 PM
From those charts? Definitely in a HIDDEN but public place.Definitely still at grandma's house, I think with the Capricorn in 12th... JUST A GUESS, though. IP: Logged |
VenusDiSirius
Knowflake Posts: 2978
From: Saturn-free H12 ;)
Registered: Aug 2010
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posted December 25, 2010 12:27 PM
With first posted chart,saturn in 1st H,i say u weren't focused on questioning,and should try again. But,my friend says that it still can work and added that YOU don't search for it. She said it is outdoors,possibly house's backyard,to say truth to your fiancé and that he would find it.
My mother once baked her ring along the bread  it is probably in trash,accidentally thrown away,when people clean afterwards...
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Geocosmic* Valentine
Knowflake Posts: 1191
From: New York, NY
Registered: Apr 2009
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posted December 25, 2010 04:09 PM
In the new chart the 2nd House rules your possessions. With Horary Astrology you don't use the outer planets of Uranus, Neptune or Pluto. In this chart Saturn rules both Capricorn and Aquarius.Saturn is located in the 9th House and that rules far away locations, religious institutions, institutions of higher learning; it could be with a teacher or a professor or a clergyman of some type.; you may need to take a "special" journey or a far journey to retrieve it. I'm being serious when I ask this. By any chance could you have swallowed it. The first house in this chart rules "the body" of the querent, which is you and Saturn rules that house as well. If the lost object needs to take a "special journey" to get to you, I don't want to rule that out. IP: Logged |
Virgo-AriesArtist
Knowflake Posts: 427
From: Michigan :)
Registered: Jun 2009
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posted December 25, 2010 10:54 PM
Thanks for the new interpretation, Geo. I'm nearly 100% positive that I didn't swallow it, but the journey part is very interesting. Oddly enough, the day I lost it, my fiance and I had a big disagreement over him coming with me to my Gram's house to make the cookies, after he had said maybe the say before. He said no the day of, and I stormed out, and I remember when I took the ring off at my Gram's house, I had this thought, that "oh, it feels good to have this off my hand, even just for a bit", mainly cause I felt confined by the relationship with the issues that had been coming up recently. It's a very Sag-themed thought, with freedom being the operative word, but I felt worse if my thoughts truly set this in motion as we're working past those issues, and I truly do love both my fiance and the ring... IP: Logged |
mintgirl123
Knowflake Posts: 2204
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Registered: Nov 2009
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posted December 25, 2010 11:02 PM
Get a psychic to do a reading for you. Some are really cheap on ebay and really accurate (used to be a complete sceptic about psychics etc).It'll be alot more effective and detailed that way. Try angiamerson http://shop.ebay.com/missangiamerson/m.html She's really accurate, is fast as responding and is detailed. 1 question costs 2 bucks. IP: Logged |
oceanic
Newflake Posts: 18
From: sydney nsw australia
Registered: Nov 2010
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posted December 26, 2010 12:48 AM
Have you checked the cookies/cookie dough?
Is there anything on the counter? Like appliances, or bowls of fruit, canisters? It might be under one of these.Hope this helps.. IP: Logged |
Virgo-AriesArtist
Knowflake Posts: 427
From: Michigan :)
Registered: Jun 2009
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posted December 26, 2010 08:52 AM
Hi oceanic,
I've had this weird thought it might be in the cookie dough, and we're almost done rolling it out (I brought the last of the dough home), so that's a good place to check.I'll update on checking that location later today. IP: Logged |
StarrofVenusGirl
Knowflake Posts: 1314
From: Down the Rabbit Hole
Registered: Jun 2009
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posted December 26, 2010 11:31 AM
Check beneath and behind everything on the counters (appliances, cutting boards--move everything and be thorough) and if you were rolling near the crevice between the oven and the counter, pull out the oven and see if it fell between there also. Look on the floor in the crevices beneath the counters, and move the kitchen table then sweep the kitchen floor from corner to corner as it could have fallen and rolled around. Also check the trash that was in the kitchen that day. It's either in the kitchen or trash, I'm sure of it. Check methodically and don't rule out any place as too absurd and I'm sure you'll find it. IP: Logged |
Virgo-AriesArtist
Knowflake Posts: 427
From: Michigan :)
Registered: Jun 2009
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posted December 26, 2010 01:08 PM
The trash is long gone, StarofVenusGirl, so that I simply cannot accept in the realm of possibility...I know I'm being stubborn, but I feel the engagement ring is still within my grasps somehow. IP: Logged |
Virgo-AriesArtist
Knowflake Posts: 427
From: Michigan :)
Registered: Jun 2009
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posted December 27, 2010 09:13 PM
Ok, I checked the cookie dough, and nothing...I'll try moving the appliances next time I am over her house. I'm sick over it, and (yes, my Leo moon is coming out right now) somehow feel like it's a Universial punishment for an unknown screw-up...or just me being totally spacey and Merc Rx out-to-lunch. IP: Logged |
glamgem25
Knowflake Posts: 795
From: Texas
Registered: May 2009
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posted December 27, 2010 10:04 PM
The very first thing that popped in my head was it's in your vehicle...did you check your vehicle thoroughly?? IP: Logged |
Virgo-AriesArtist
Knowflake Posts: 427
From: Michigan :)
Registered: Jun 2009
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posted December 27, 2010 10:05 PM
glamgem, I thought I did, but will go check right now...never hurts to be thorough, right?Thanks for the suggestion  IP: Logged |
glamgem25
Knowflake Posts: 795
From: Texas
Registered: May 2009
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posted December 28, 2010 09:55 PM
Definitely!! Check between seats and cushions not just under the seats! IP: Logged |
popcorn
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posted December 28, 2010 10:09 PM
Pluto, sun, N.N, (merk) in house 12. It's pass away. AC ruler saturn in house 9. I think through the toilett, washbasin or washingmachine.IP: Logged |
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