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Topic: Please Share about Venus/Pluto is Hard Aspect in the Natal
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Lonake Knowflake Posts: 9910 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted December 29, 2010 03:00 AM
Ami I'm looking at Nessus in my synastries now. And it's starting to make sense partly why I don't gel well with those whose Asc is conj my NN, cos it'll also be conj my Nessus. The worst interactions I've had have been with those people. I'd be the Nessus person, but I still see the interaction as dangerous on an emotional level (it's in Cancer). Plus their Asc falls in my 12th. (btw my Nessus opposed my Moon/Venus). It was a bad feeling, like being laid bare (h12) and taken advantage of, making me not want to be vulnerable in the future. This was all on the emotional level. It's gotten to the point where if I see Asc 21'59 Cancer or thereabouts it's a no-go. Seriously.IP: Logged |
Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 59068 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
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posted December 29, 2010 02:15 PM
OK So in YOUR Chart---How does Nessus function.List the main aspects in your natal,if you could. I want to meditate on them.
------------------ Jesus never put his trust in man cuz he knew what was in man. Pluto conjunct Deja ,Bruh. IP: Logged |
BearsArcher Moderator Posts: 731 From: Arizona with Bear the Leo Registered: Apr 2010
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posted December 29, 2010 03:13 PM
quote: Originally posted by VenusDiSirius: I know 6 people with pisces mars. One of them is bit stubborn,so it doesn't show immediately. I spent HOURS contemplating on their personalities...and natal. It iS my personal experience of an aries mars. But,when i looked closely,it is the amount of pressure they don't like,not really that don't have gutts. Shame... Arizona is far away from prague. But,the best place in the world!
I can see your point about the pressure. I think since my Mars is only at 1 degree pisces and I have the Sag Sun / Aries Moon / Pluto conjunct ASC 1st House, it tends to dampen the passive tendencies of the pisces mars. Yeah, I really wanted to go to Prague when we lived in Germany but didn't have the time with work and deployments. Bear has been there a few times (he lived in Germany a couple of years before I got there). I have it on my list of things to do though IP: Logged |
VenusDiSirius Knowflake Posts: 6129 From: Registered: Aug 2010
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posted December 29, 2010 03:45 PM
And another prominent trait,and strangely omnipresent,although those people i know are from very different backgrounds,life path etc,is how autoritarian they are(god,i hope this os the right eng expression) : humble in front of people who admire,always in their presence,and badly treating people who are lower by mars pisces person's standrard,even those who are like them. Also,easily getting into fight with people they know,and being the exemplary bully,while people who are strangers can win any time;as if they are deadly offended when someone doesn't say hello to them. Full of complexes... The only mars pisces person that escaped those odd qualities is also having that mars in 8th along with 4th pluto. U have other strong placements,as well. And sagittarius! That's a life saver! Right now,i am freezing my booty,still,praha is unbelievablely romantic,ur bear would love it i always get gothic vibes.. Lovin it!!!IP: Logged |
Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 59068 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
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posted December 29, 2010 04:04 PM
This is interesting.I don't know anyone with Mars in Pisces. Since we went off on that tangent,could anyone please explain more about it so I can get a feeling for it . Thanks so much ------------------ Jesus never put his trust in man cuz he knew what was in man. Pluto conjunct Deja ,Bruh. IP: Logged |
VenusDiSirius Knowflake Posts: 6129 From: Registered: Aug 2010
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posted December 29, 2010 04:20 PM
Shifting back to topic I also noticed with venus/pluto hard aspects desire for partner to be perfect. All that domineering tendencies,control issues,they rise from need to sculpt loved one,and they constantly increase their firm hold on partner. And it's thin line between perfection and obssesion,which is a hallmark with pluto influenced people.IP: Logged |
Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 59068 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
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posted December 29, 2010 04:22 PM
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Lonake Knowflake Posts: 9910 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted December 29, 2010 04:40 PM
I have the square, and I love my obsessions Ami you mean what is Nessus doing in my chart? Conj nn, sq mars Saturn Pluto, opp moon Venus, sq mc/ic..so it's like a cardinal cross that I have there if you include the mc. IP: Logged |
Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 59068 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
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posted December 29, 2010 04:49 PM
Yes,Lonake, what is it doing. I want to think about it for a while.I find Nessus to be a type of Pluto,not to be overlooked ,at all. ------------------ Jesus never put his trust in man cuz he knew what was in man. Pluto conjunct Deja ,Bruh. IP: Logged |
Lonake Knowflake Posts: 9910 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted December 29, 2010 04:51 PM
VenusdeS, Your post now makes me think of the aspect being Svengali like in it's manifestation-and there's truth to that.IP: Logged |
VenusDiSirius Knowflake Posts: 6129 From: Registered: Aug 2010
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posted December 29, 2010 07:29 PM
Lonake,yes..bewitched and hypnotized venus! also,when i see hard V/P aspect,especially with girls,i try to see what was childhool like,relationship with father... And lilith! Key to sexuality! IP: Logged |
Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 59068 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
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posted December 29, 2010 07:39 PM
OK What are you ,guys, saying for someone with Pluto sq Venus in the natal?? Is this person SUPER passionate to the point of obsessed in love?------------------ Jesus never put his trust in man cuz he knew what was in man. Pluto conjunct Deja ,Bruh. IP: Logged |
VenusDiSirius Knowflake Posts: 6129 From: Registered: Aug 2010
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posted December 29, 2010 08:04 PM
S&M coloured passion. IP: Logged |
Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 59068 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
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posted December 29, 2010 08:08 PM
OK To put it in simple words Venus sq Pluto is a super passionate person====correcto ------------------ Jesus never put his trust in man cuz he knew what was in man. Pluto conjunct Deja ,Bruh. IP: Logged |
CosmicKarma360 Knowflake Posts: 774 From: here and there Registered: Sep 2010
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posted December 29, 2010 08:41 PM
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Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 59068 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
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posted December 29, 2010 08:47 PM
OK Gottcha Moving right along Who can talk about the conjunction? LOLAlso, HOW would the oppostion differ from the square,in practical terms ,which are all that matter LOL ------------------ Jesus never put his trust in man cuz he knew what was in man. Pluto conjunct Deja ,Bruh. IP: Logged |
CosmicKarma360 Knowflake Posts: 774 From: here and there Registered: Sep 2010
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posted December 29, 2010 10:10 PM
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VenusDiSirius Knowflake Posts: 6129 From: Registered: Aug 2010
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posted December 29, 2010 10:20 PM
quote: Originally posted by CosmicKarma360: Venus square Pluto = SUPER passionate. I'd say so! Yeah, in all honesty, I've had several of my former boyfriends tell me they thought I was very passionate. Heck, I'll come right out and say it, I LOVE great, hot, intense, energetic sex. So there.
I were a guy,i'd be totally falling for you i said similar thing to one my boyfriend. He wanted to marry me i wasn't pleased,though... Don't like marriage I have V/P trine... I am full-blooded girl. My life would be nothing without this aspect
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CosmicKarma360 Knowflake Posts: 774 From: here and there Registered: Sep 2010
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posted December 29, 2010 10:30 PM
Sad to admit it, but with age, some of the really strong desire has kind of wilted a bit. Aaahh, sure miss my early and mid-20's. It was really going strong then Still, even now, it's all good. I hate the jealousy bit though. I'm NOT a jealous type at all, but every now and again, I'll meet someone who knocks me over. Then the Green-Eyed One will come out if I see them talking to someone else. Blech. Jealousy is so childish to me.IP: Logged |
Astrobelle Knowflake Posts: 45 From: USA Registered: May 2009
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posted December 30, 2010 11:22 AM
"how does Pluto/Venus feel in the natal?"TORTURE!!! LOL, well at times anyway... I have Venus in Aries opposite Pluto in Libra. (Venus in the 2nd & Pluto in the 8th, seems to magnify the aspect). At times I can relate much more to the Pluto in Scorpio generation that I feel have been influencing Art, Music and the Media these days. Examples might include: The Twilight Saga, The proliferation of some of the best soulful dark indie rock coming out of the UK and now the U.S...I would even include Lady Gaga (her moon is in Scorp) Of course there's plenty of other Pluto generations making their mark but I'd say the Pluto Scorpios are here to stay a bit in the spotlight mainstream and that's fine by me. IP: Logged |
GrlyGirl20 Knowflake Posts: 410 From: USA Registered: Apr 2009
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posted December 30, 2010 12:10 PM
"Venus square Pluto = SUPER passionate. I'd say so! Yeah, in all honesty, I've had several of my former boyfriends tell me they thought I was very passionate. Heck, I'll come right out and say it, I LOVE great, hot, intense, energetic sex. So there."Lol I'd agree then...but only passionate when my feelings are aroused which isn't often. So its very rare that it happens. But yes I'm passionate. And Ami you saw a little of it first hand here with the Aqua ex (which I'm STILL not over...I don't know if I'll ever be...but at least I'm ok), so you deff know lol. In my natal I have the opposition by sign with Taurus Venus in the 11th, and Scorp Pluto in the 5th, but its Inconjunct by aspect. Plus my Asc, and Sun have a Trine to Pluto. Plus my Mercury and Moon have the Square to Pluto. So I'm a pretty Pluto person. IP: Logged |
Mannequin Knowflake Posts: 167 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted December 30, 2010 12:32 PM
i have Venus in Scorpio conjunct Pluto in the 7th house. i'm extremely picky when it comes to choosing a partner, friends or anything else. one tiny thing can turn me off you, and it takes a lot of work for me to then be interested in you again. however, once i fall for you, i ignore all your flaws and only see the good in you. to the point where i idolise you as a God, and give you my heart, mind and soul fully.but if i'm pushed too far, i invert, and i'm the complete opposite. there's a lot of pain included, but once i decide this isn't for me, i'm a cold ass ***** . but i do love being in love. having that one person to share things with, it makes me feel safe, secure, like as if life now has meaning, that there's something to live for. IP: Logged |
CosmicKarma360 Knowflake Posts: 774 From: here and there Registered: Sep 2010
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posted December 30, 2010 12:47 PM
Yeah, seems like there is something about Venus square Pluto, that it's really hard to find someone, but once you do.... Whoa! Look out! I've learned over time not to over-idealize the person, but I will crawl over cut glass for them.The hardest has been finding someone. I don't know what it is, but it's so hard to get interested in "regular" guys. It's like they have to have something out of the ordinary. Don't know what that's all about, other than Pluto sits in my 5th, along with Uranus. IP: Logged |
VenusDiSirius Knowflake Posts: 6129 From: Registered: Aug 2010
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posted December 30, 2010 06:11 PM
Everything that pluto touches gets tainted with The One/Fated qualities... I know girl with pluto/venus conjunction,2 degrees applying,she found the one,fought for him=peacefully but resiliently,strong and constant in her desire and love. He in the beginning(2 yrs) didn't even notice her. And now sees her as miracle IP: Logged |
Intensity Newflake Posts: 20 From: Registered: Oct 2010
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posted December 30, 2010 06:22 PM
Really interesting topic .. couldnt help butt in lolI have a venus sextile pluto natally .. so its all pretty peaceful and nicely flowing there I guess .. Lonake .. i totally agree about the venus conjunt pluto in scorpio being 'meow' lol .. i know one but a guy not a girl ;-) I also experienced a moon/pluto conjunction DW .. and a mars/pluto conjunction double whammy as well altogether ... but they are both loose conjunctions not within 8 orb Does anyone have a venus leo square someone else's pluto scorpio! ... how the hell do you handle that!? IP: Logged |