posted January 02, 2011 06:21 PM            

I'd look at hard aspects involving Neptune
to the luminaries,personal planets, angles

hard aspects would include conjunction,opposition,square,quincunx,semisquare,and sesquiquadrate

in declinations,
parallels contraparallels

midpoint pictures that involve Neptune with luminaries,personal planets,angles

Free will is also the ultimate factor

I have all the above with Moon in Pisces, and I am not an alcoholic. I haven't drunk alcoholic beverages in over 10 years.

luminaries,personal planets,angles in
hard aspects to the Neptune Nodes can also be an indicator

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No..I am not a Virgo.

posted January 02, 2011 06:45 PM            

Astrology and alcoholism : genetic key to the horoscope
Author: Ann E Parker
Publisher: York Beach, Me. : S. Weiser, 1982.

posted January 02, 2011 06:52 PM            

Alcohol has a certain affect on my mind.

My Mercury is in Aries and my mind is always busy. Alcohol calms it. I wouldn't say I am an alcoholic but it's borderline.

But yeah strong Neptune to personal planets would be a indication.

posted January 02, 2011 07:03 PM            

I've seen tons of charts for addicts with a strong neptune but they've usually been very creative too and I think it's the flip side.

For me what helps is a fixed cross with merc, the asc, mars and jupiter, as long as my mind is stable then everything is okay but saying that when I was younger (late teens /early twenties) I did drink a lot. I don't think I could ever be casual around booze and would never just have a bottle in for the sake of it. I have pretty rigid boundaries with it but that kind of points to an underlying issue.

My ex had sun,north node and venus all conjunct neptune and he's been a drinker on and off for years, he was ok whilst he was with me but mainly cos he switched to a more herbal method which was just as bad and was ultimately the reason for the break up.

posted January 02, 2011 07:15 PM            

Sun square Neptune over 9 degrees is very wide for a square

a square within 8 degree orb is even an 11th harmonic aspect called the triundecile

a square would with 9.2 degree orb would be a different type of harmonic.

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No..I am not a Virgo.

posted January 03, 2011 11:35 PM            

do you have any hard aspects to Neptune Nodes involving personal planets/points?
any Neptune parallels,contraparallels involving personal planets/points

do you have any Neptune midpoint pictures involving personal planets/points?

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No..I am not a Virgo.

posted January 03, 2011 11:38 PM            

I am going go over their charts soon, and maybe you can get an idea about family alcoholic history.

I will also include my stuff to show potential alcoholic indicators even though I never had a drinking problem and haven't touch alcohol since January 1999.

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No..I am not a Virgo.

posted January 03, 2011 11:56 PM            

Venus square Neptune
Sun sextile Neptune
Mercury quintile Neptune
and Mars quintile Neptune

posted January 04, 2011 12:57 AM            

I only listed hard Neptune aspects

Moon in Pisces in 5th
Mars in Libra in 12th
Saturn in Pisces in 4th/5th oppose Neptune in Virgo in 10th/11th - 1'48
Neptune in Virgo in 10th/11th square Chiron in Gemini in 8th - '02
(T-Square of Chiron square Saturn-Neptune opposition)

Mars conjunct Jupiter/Neptune midpoint - '08
Neptune conjunct Mars/Midheaven midpoint - '07
Ascendant square Mercury/Neptune midpoint - '39
Uranus square Mercury/Neptune midpoint - '50
Moon semisquare Sun/Neptune midpoint - '47
Mars semisquare Venus/Neptune midpoint - '47

Geocentric North Neptune Node
conjunct/oppose Midheaven/Imum Coeli - '50

Heliocentric Neptune Nodes
conjunct Midheaven/Imum Coeli - '23

In Heliocentric chart:
Venus square Neptune Nodes - '56

I checked midpoints in Right Ascension

Mars conjunct Jupiter/Neptune midpoint - '08

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No..I am not a Virgo.

posted January 04, 2011 01:37 AM            

I didn't list any soft aspects

Sun in Gemini in 12th
Midheaven in Pisces
Venus in Cancer in 2nd square Neptune in Libra R in 5th - 1'39
Uranus in Cancer in 2nd square Neptune in Libra R in 5th - 1'59
Neptune in Libra R in 5th square Sedna in Aries in 11th - 2'05
(T-square Venus square Neptune-Sedna opposition)
Neptune sesquiquadrate/semisquare Midheaven/Imum Coeli - '32

Neptune parallel/contraparallel Midheaven/Imum Coeli - '44

Pluto conjunct Sun/Neptune midpoint - '12
Midheaven oppose Venus/Neptune midpoint - '17
Neptune square Venus/Uranus midpoint - '09
Neptune square Sun/Pluto midpoint - '57
Mercury sesquiquadrate Mars/Neptune midpoint - '49
Sun sesquiquadrate Moon/Neptune midpoint - '51
Ascendant semisquare Midheaven/Neptune midpoint - '59
Node semisquare Mars/Neptune midpoint - '17
Node semisquare Jupiter/Neptune midpoint - '57
Neptune semisquare Mercury/Saturn - '50

Heliocentric:
Mercury square Neptune Nodes - 1'34

I checked midpoints in Right Ascension

Neptune conjunct Venus/Node - '31

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No..I am not a Virgo.

posted January 04, 2011 02:04 AM            

only listed hard aspects

Sun in Scorpio in 12th
Neptune in Scorpio in 12th
Mars in Scorpio in 12th
Sun conjunct Neptune - 5'44 (5'09 in Right Ascension)

Neptune conjunct Jupiter/Node midpoint - '39
Neptune conjunct Saturn/Uranus midpoint - 1'11
Neptune conjunct Venus/Mars midpoint - 1'13
Neptune conjunct Mercury/Mars midpoint - 1'23
Mars semisquare Midheaven/Neptune midpoint - '38
Sun semisquare Neptune/Node midpoint - '11
Neptune semisquare Saturn/Ascendant midpoint - '14
Neptune semsiquare Mars/Saturn midpoint - '25
Neptune semisquare Mercury/Node midpoint - '31
Neptune semisquare Venus/Node midpoint - '41

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No..I am not a Virgo.

posted January 04, 2011 02:32 AM            

Uranus in Leo in 12th

Venus conjunct Ascendant/Neptune midpoint - '31
Venus conjunct Uranus/Neptune midpoint - 1'03
Saturn square Neptune/Node midpoint - '43
Moon sesquiquadrate Uranus/Neptune midpoint - '21
Moon sesquiquadrate Ascendant/Neptune midpoint - '46
Neptune sesquiquadrate Mars/Jupiter midpoint - '13
Ascendant semisquare Sun/Neptune midpoint - '26
Neptune semisquare Mercury/Venus midpoint - '37

Geocentric North Venus Node
square Neptune - '19

Heliocentric:
Mars oppose Neptune - 1'45

I checked midpoints in Right Ascension

Neptune conjunct Jupiter/Node - '05
Neptune conjunct Mercury/Jupiter - '20
Neptune conjunct Saturn/Ascendant - '47
Neptune conjunct Saturn/Uranus - 1'05
Ascendant oppose Mars/Neptune - 1'30

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No..I am not a Virgo.

posted January 04, 2011 02:56 AM            

Moon in Pisces in 6th
Ceres in Leo in 11th/12th
Makemake in Leo in 12th
Haumea in Virgo in 12th

(both Makemake and Haumea are transneptunian dwarf planets like Pluto, and Ceres is an asteroid dwarf planet......I'd count their influences just as significant as Pluto's)

Moon square Neptune - 1'22
Saturn oppose Neptune - 3'20
(T-Square of Moon square Saturn-Neptune opposition)

Mars square Neptune in Right Ascension - 1'01

Mercury parallel Neptune - '33
Venus parallel Neptune - '46
Saturn contraparallel Neptune - '05
(planetary synchronization of Saturn contraparallel Mercury-Venus-Neptune)

Mercury conjunct Sun/Neptune midpoint - '14
Moon oppose Saturn/Neptune midpoint - '17
Saturn oppose Jupiter/Neptune midpoint - '05
Neptune square Venus/Midheaven midpoint - '17
Mars square Mercury/Neptune midpoint - '49
Mars square Venus/Neptune midpoint - '53
Neptune semisquare Mars/Jupiter midpoint - '17
Neptune semisquare Venus/Ascendant midpoint - '48
Neptune semisquare Mercury/Ascendant midpoint - '54
Jupiter semisquare Neptune/Ascendant midpoint - '39

fixed stars:
Moon conjunct Fomalhaut - 17

Fomalhaut is Alpha Pisces Austrinus star
Reinhold Ebertin said that it has a Mercury-Venus-Neptune influence
Medical Astrologer Eileen Nauman said that it is associated with addictions

I checked midpoints in Right Ascension

Sun conjunct Neptune/Pluto midpoint - '34
Neptune conjunct Node/Ascendant midpoint - 1'11
Moon oppose Neptune/Midheaven midpoint - '28

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No..I am not a Virgo.

posted January 05, 2011 01:09 AM            

quote:

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Originally posted by libraschoice77:
There's alot of 12th house going on with the your people you mentioned, that's something to look more into with 12th house action in a natal chart. Kind of scary I have 12th house planets also

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yeah

free will is the ultimate factor

we choose to have other paths like spirituality,compassion,service

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posted June 28, 2012 11:28 AM            

i like weed but have slowed that roll considerably, but will invariably say yes when it's offered. thing is, i prefer it alone, so i can take it to my work; namely writing, specifically screenwriting.)

sun conjunct neptune in 5th/10-degrees scorpio. (mars at 22 scorpio/5th sextiled by saturn @ 24 cap/7th.)

finally checked my late brother's chart the other day. he died at age 48, basically from alcoholism. (he reverted to "just beer" after years and years years and years of hard drugs, including just about everything. beat his body up and added too many jail days to a short life.)

and "just beer" was the nasty stuff, high-octane malt liquor, from waking to sleeping.

he was mars conjunct neptune in scorpio.

neptune can be harsh mistress. but man can she slow-dance. and oh, those sweet secrets she whispers.

i have a vivid memory of my brother, standing on the submerged rocks under the water of lake travis, outside austin, texas.

he took a step back, slipped off the rock and went under. EXCEPT FOR THE BEER, which he managed to hold above the surface, like the olympic torch, while he treaded water before finally coming up.

posted December 09, 2012 02:26 PM            

quote:

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Originally posted by roberto:
neptune can be harsh mistress. but man can she slow-dance. and oh, those sweet secrets she whispers.

i have a vivid memory of my brother, standing on the submerged rocks under the water of lake travis, outside austin, texas.

he took a step back, slipped off the rock and went under. EXCEPT FOR THE BEER, which he managed to hold above the surface, like the olympic torch, while he treaded water before finally coming up.

perfect. poetry. i miss him.

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posted December 09, 2012 03:19 PM            

quote:

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Originally posted by LadyAries*:
I have Mercury (my chart ruler) Square Neptune.

Alcohol has a certain affect on my mind.

My Mercury is in Aries and my mind is always busy. Alcohol calms it. I wouldn't say I am an alcoholic but it's borderline.

But yeah strong Neptune to personal planets would be a indication.

EX: My brother abuses alcohol and his Sun square's Neptune and it also Conjuncts his Asc. in the 12th.

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posted December 09, 2012 04:38 PM            

i think in my case it's the neppy squares

quote:

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Originally posted by hippichick:
It's a very tough subject.

One can either ride atop the 3prong scepter of Neptune or be held down bu it.....

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