posted January 04, 2011 02:17 PM            

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Originally posted by staborgi:
Lioness- where did you get those Sabian symbol interps? I have a book on Sabian symbols but find it a little esoteric and hard to understand, I like yours more!

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posted January 05, 2011 12:26 AM            

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Lioness,

We met a few years ago, and I swear I was in love with him from the beginning. Something about him drew me like a moth to a flame. For the longest time, I couldn't quite pinpoint it... it wasn't just his looks, or his personality/demeanor... it was something much deeper... his soul.

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Here is whats weird about us.. I have know him for 7 years or so.. I always knew something about him, and I watched him.. But I was really afraid to talk to him.. Not to speak to him, but really afraid of talking to him.. I just knew something about him.. put I just couldnt put my finger on it. So I just watched him from a distance.. I felt something about him.. but I was really scared of it.. It was freaky... One day a friend said you know you should hook up with him, you guys would look so cute together.. I said WHAT!! Ooooo nooooo noo nooo nooo noo not him, anyone but him.. no no no no no.... I was dead serious.. I didnt want to talk or be near him at all...
Then bammm one day (after I separated with the husband) I walked straight up to him and starting talking to him.. We stood there for 3 hours talking.. We just couldnt stop talking... Once we did talk, all that fear and anxiety went away and I was so comfortable and relaxed.. I felt at ease. I immediately felt the connection with him.. I had immediate trust (which is not me) I felt as if I have known him forever... It was so soothing actually talking to him.. it was like BAMMMMMM.... I knew I was going to fall for him... I knew I wasnt going to be able to control it....
I just didnt realize how deep and to the core I would feel it.... sighhhhh..

He told me that all these years that "he wondered about me" his words so not sure how exactly he wondered about me..

posted January 10, 2011 05:12 PM            

Why so much guilt?? I feel bad for pulling away....

I really really just want to be done with this..

posted January 10, 2011 05:17 PM            

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
Moon/Pluto will NEVER let you go. Get used to it ,G/f

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nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo ooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

sighhhhhh..

did I mention.... hummm nooooooo!
dont say that

posted January 10, 2011 07:51 PM            

I just wish I didnt feel so bad, and guilty about it... Im not trying to be mean, or seem like a cold B... but I have to do this for my own sanity...

Today I was washing my cup in the sink, he came up behind me, and said good morning, how are u... I said good, keeping my back to him at all times... I turned the opposite way of him, and I walked away.. I didnt even see him, today, Even though I have to pass by him.. I never once looked his way.. So I never actually saw his face...

posted January 14, 2011 08:48 AM            

I 2nd this...and I'm an 11th house Taurus Venus, with my Sun and Mars Conjunct my Asc in Cancer Inconjunct Uranus...plus a natal IC Square Uranus aspect (which for anyone let alone a heavy Cancer is like a Uranus Square Moon aspect).

But to talk about Pluto Moon, I have one natally (the Square to my Cap Moon)...and I had a very hard relationship with an Aqua that ended about a year ago. It took me so long to just move on (which generally doesn't happen to me). Generally I can break up and yeah I'm really crushed and hurt if they meant alot, but then the 11th house vibe in me kicks in after I distance myself for a bit (which is never too long) and I'm able to be just your friend...without even the slightest hint of wanting you back or jealously.

With the Aqua it was gut wrenching to let go (and I can admit I'm only now really moving on...and not tracking him anymore...and yes Pluto influenced ppl know what I'm talking about lol). We broke up in Jan of last year, and basically stopped talking in June after he moved away. Even though we broke up in Jan, we had a class together so we were still "seeing" each other...even though he did try to cut me off saying he didn't stay friends with exes (I was shocked...he's an Aqua lol!!).

But I did everything I could to even be a friend to him, and whenever I contacted him (after he moved away) he would never contact me back. The last I heard from him was he was in town and stopped by my apt, but I was out and my mom (who was staying that weekend with me) saw him (knock at my door). I contacted him to see what he wanted and he didn't respond back (this was in early August).

Finally my practical Cap Moon kicked in and finally faced the reality (which in Cap terms is ALWAYS negative) that the desire to hear the sound of my voice or even find out how I am wasn't there.

But we didn't have any synastry Moon-Pluto aspects. But we did have the Pluto Parallel Moon (me Pluto, him Moon) aspect, and we had DW Sun (Trine both ways), Mer (Square both ways), and Mars (Opposition, and Trine) Pluto aspects with also a minor Venus Pluto aspect.

HOWEVER the strange thing was in the Composite the Pluto was off the charts. The Sun was in Taurus Opposite Pluto, and the Moon in the 8th house in Scorpio. Along with Venus and Mars touching Pluto, Pluto actually in the 7th house, and finally poor old Saturn in the 8th. And the davison had the Sun in Taurus in Opp Pluto in the 7th with again the Scorp Moon, Mer Parallel Pluto, Venus in the 8th house, and Pluto in the 1st. So either way between both of them (whichever one you use lol) its pretty obvious it was a VERY VERY intense relationship that was really difficult to both be in and let go.

But it seemed like even though it was hard I'd rather be fighting with him than not have him be in my life at all.

I don't think it was difficult for him to let go (or maybe it was). He deleted me from Facebook in June (which was when he had our last conversation then, after he found out I was moving across the country) and when I called to find out why he would answer the phone then hang up on me, so he was angry about something. Natally he had a Moon, Venus (the Sextile), and Mercury (Trine) Pluto aspects and it just seemed like we were fated to be together (actually he said that when we were together).

posted January 14, 2011 09:10 AM            

Alas, Moon/Pluto

posted January 14, 2011 09:42 AM            

Thanks for sharing

Yes Im having a hard time,pulling away.. seems nearly impossible.. But Im building my strength and doing it..

I do think the female feels pluto more, since we are more in touch with our feelings..

But I bet your guy felt it... Im sure he felt disconnecting all contact would make it easier to get out of it..
Thats how I feel.. I have disconnected all contact with pisces.. Even though I see him everyday.. I have even disconnected all eye contact.. So I dont "see" him.. I accidently saw him yesterday, and I ****** ..lol...I havent "seen" him in almost 2 weeks...

This is my first hard moon pluto aspect, and its been an eye openener... Wow.. I didnt even know I could feel this deeply for anyone... Moreless this guy... lol

posted January 19, 2011 11:44 AM            

I felt I was being to rude, and didnt want him to hate me, so I talked to him...

He told me I was wondering what I did to upset you.. I told him its nothing personal, I am just going through some things right now, and Im in a "mood" He said I knew something was bothering you, and I wanted to give you space, I knew when you were ready you would come and talk to me.. He said I wasnt worried... I know you will come in talk to me, in your own time... He said well Im glad its nothing personal..
He tried to hug me, but I didnt let him.. I put my head down, and told him noooo..

ahhhhh... but GEEEZZZ.. so what he's not worried, because he knows I will be back???
What the heck is that crap?? This is not good at allllll...

I give up (throwing hands up in the air)

posted January 20, 2011 07:51 PM            

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Originally posted by oneruledbymars:
Quick question Lioness, have you to discussed the nature of the Love that lies between you or do you just pretend like your not in love with each other in hopes that you will wake up one day and not be?.... just curious...the only way to get out of a Pluto/Moon solid connection is to be honesty about the nature of your emotions. That is the lesson that you have come together to learn.

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Well neither one of us say a damn thing, either way... He has said I feel a special bond with you.. and I said yeah me too..

So if I tell him, how I feel and then he rejects me, I will get over it?? Cuz yeah the rejection part idk.... if I wanna go through that...
He doesnt love me, its just me that has feelings for him... So Im working very hard to pull away.

I dont want that lesson, at least not with someone I work with... That makes it so much harder.. If it was someone I didnt have to see ever again, they I would say it.. but I cant... I cant... and then look at him everyday, with embarrassment...

omg.. thats so not fair, I dont wanna..

posted January 20, 2011 08:09 PM            

The reason being is that what Pluto/Moon connections are trying to make us do is:
Get to the heart of what you really feel, and acknowlegedge it with no fear...

Who cares about rejection, you are not defined by returned romantic feelings...that is neither here nor there. You simply want him to treat you in such a way that respects your feelings but how can he if he doesnt know them.

He does love you...but how exactly is it that you want him to love you?

posted January 20, 2011 08:16 PM            

You ask tough questions... lol

I dont want to look like an idiot, and then face him everyday...

posted January 20, 2011 08:27 PM            

I chickened out.. Its funny that today you come
and tell me exactly that..

posted January 20, 2011 08:36 PM            

Just because Moon/Pluto needs open communication in transparency to keep it from being sucked into lower level emotions with Venus involved.

Telling someone that you love them is not making you look like an idiot...ok in some cases I can see where it does, but not in this one. Epecially in light of the fact that you have dated before. Its simply a way of being honest with yourself and him. So that you can move on...this is how you define what you want Lioness. So what if you have romantic feelings for him...it is what it is. You know?

The Universe will not allow you to move one until you define what you want. Otherwise it gives you what you need.
Its good you dont understand...somethings arent meant to be understood you know..they just are.

There is no place to hide the only way over is through...that is the nature of Pluto.

Funny...I said that because I felt like you are being a bit hestitant about expressing yourself to him and I dont think it is serving the greater good here.