posted January 05, 2011 03:25 AM            

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Originally posted by BanxxManxx:
You are taught as a child that being a doctor is the best thing to be.. In my eyes, being a doctor would be the worst thing that you could aspire to do.

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posted January 05, 2011 03:31 AM            

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
Nice Picture ,Road
You have that young Marlon Brando thang going on

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He's got varuna in the same place, so it's interesting you say that. My brother dean is the looker, he's a cross between ben afflect and john mayer.

btw varuna in the first....it's interesting that varuna has three heads and six arms....and hecate is the female greek version...it's amazing to see that symbolic correlation....it's absolutely amazing.

And also, varuna resonates with me strongly for some reason...

A shamn once told me it's not a bad thing to have three heads and six arms
but then I told my aunt that he said that to me, and she questioned my sanity...aye..

not much you can do about that...

And to BEARsARcher everything you said resonates strongly as well...yes the self control is necessary or else karma will eat you up...my Karma is dangerously conjunct my south node in the sixth house, dangerously conjunct pluto, dangerously near all the funky asteroids in scorpio, ixion being one of htem i'm not too fond off.

Holly I really enjoy how you pop in. Your very concise and effective. Thanks for reading.

Banx, thank you too. Sincerely, I think alot about you buddy, and consider every day using some of my earned money from the hotel to buy a drum set, but I won't be able to actually afford that for some time, so I may just buy a drumpad, and practice the motions.

posted January 05, 2011 03:42 AM            

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Originally posted by BearsArcher:
Well Road.. I don't know your bro's face but you have one that is very symmetrical. Ben Affleck nor does Marlon Brando have a symmetrical face. Beauty has always been in symmetry .. AND.... a great personality.

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posted January 05, 2011 03:49 AM            

To me, that is perfection. Life is about improving and science (my first love) is about always testing in order to prove things wrong. I must say, I hear so much about psychology and it is always changing, however until science intervened there was nothing to prove the BS wrong. Sadly, psych is always a pseudoscience to me.

posted January 05, 2011 04:00 AM            

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Originally posted by BearsArcher:
There is no such thing as perfect because there is always room for perfection. It is just like intelligence- there is no such thing as being perfectly intelligent in any given career because someone will always come up with something better.

To me, that is perfection. Life is about improving and science (my first love) is about always testing in order to prove things wrong. I must say, I hear so much about psychology and it is always changing, however until science intervened there was nothing to prove the BS wrong. Sadly, psych is always a pseudoscience to me.

But... back to what you said. You should be happy. Your looks will always be pleasing because they are so balanced. Most people do not have that appeal.

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Thanks again. I'm delving through the photoshop pictures now. HAd no idea that thread existed, or the ones below. I may need to stop typing so mucha nd start reading more. Which one are you by the way..

I really do appreciate that, only because I do have a weakness which is apparent, a low self esteem, i've never banked on looks so to speak.

On the topic of psychology, and please feel free to respond whenver as this may be something you wish to answer later, if at all, but essentialy teh question is what do you think of carl jung...I think alot of his stuff was very scientific, he found evidence that people who slept in close proximity had similar dreams, he found geometric correlations between symbols on different continents for similar concepts, beyond a statistical doubt essentialy that these correspondence demonstrated the existence of a collective unconcious that existed outside of us, and that this was the channel through which the occult and astrology affected us or could possibly be more true than we know..

What htink you of that? I have no read the statistical studies, but I find his dream analysis of scientists who are ignorant to alchemy apralleling the mandalas in alchemy very scientific in anture...in essence, your dream sequence is 99 percent similar to mine...but we only notice the differences.....based on our subjective language for things, like to me a coat means personality, where as to you a hat means personality, but dreaming of each simultaneously essentialy is 99.9 percent eh same.....for all of us...it's like when we cracked the code almost, entirely of the genetic code and we discovered that two people who look radicaly different are 99.9 percent the same...

well maybe not 99.99 but atleast 99.8 i think...I can't remember.

posted January 05, 2011 04:06 AM            

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Originally posted by Glaucus:

She's American and the spouse of an American military man stationed in Germany.

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posted January 05, 2011 04:07 AM            

There is a woman I know here who looks just like you and she is very gorgeous too.

I maybe mixed with some northern african, my mother is from crete, and some italian as well, her name is venetia....

posted January 05, 2011 04:11 AM            

My great grandfathers have marble statues in these two small villages...

unfortuantely after greece was liberated, my great grandfathers were imprisoned and executed by u.s. interests in greek government, my grandfathers were more on the russian side than the u.s. side during the cold war ;(

Alot of familial tragedy in terms of geneology.

posted January 05, 2011 04:23 AM            

exerpt of a narrative

sorry about the geneology indulgence here, but it's pure love.

The Greeks fell to spoiling and slaying, and did not
pursue them with ardour. Niketaras, who was in Vervena
with eight hundred men, came up, but just an hour too
late. We pursued them, however, as far as the plains.
This battle established the good fortunes of our country ; if
we had lost it we should have had some difficulty in making
another stand.

posted January 05, 2011 04:48 AM            

I believe we have a lot in common. My Father's family (Spanish) comes more from the area that the Moors conquered, we call them (us) Basque. You can always tell someone that is Moorish or Basque but looking at the gums in our mouths. African American's have the same dark tint (Glaucus, you can attest to that) which proves a specific Spanish decent. I believe some Greeks have it as well depending on when the Moors or Muslims took over. Scientifically, it is awesome!!.

I mean, I have our family tree and I always have darker gums, but my ex husband is a...well.. DNA guy (we will leave it at that) and he knew right off about what part of Spain my family was from.

OK... Back to the initial post- you should not have felt bad about yourself but I do know what you mean. I would choose brain over looks any time. I hated when my mentor in college told me that my looks betrayed my brain.

posted January 05, 2011 05:11 AM            

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Originally posted by roadwarriorsdp:
My hair is very african. It's styled in that picture from earlier in the day, but in general I have an afro. The kids at greekschool used to say I had a black mans pubes on my head.

We have alot in common for certain. Did you marry outside your basic unit ethnicity meaning, because i know we're both somewhat mixed, did you marry outside your expected religion and race? I'm destined for that I think. That's why I can't get married till later in life. Because I have to wait it out till i'm certain. It's a big decision because my religion is greek orthodox and essentialy, the church is very tolerant racialy, but very intolerant when it comes to practicing two relgions, they like to keep things tidy.

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Ahh... I'm a Saggie and therefore I married out of mistake the first time, however I don't FEEL it was a mistake - if that makes sense?

I married my ex (Virgo Sun/ Gem Moon/ Merc Virgo- Venus/ Mars Leo) because I fell in love. He was 16 years older than me and was very different than me. He was a blue blood from the North East (Mass / New York) that was 100% Anglo Saxon. I never had an issue with that and neither did he. But, he was not into family and his religion was similar to mine- protestant (although I am Lutheran and my father is Catholic).

We divorced as friends (how Saggie huh?) and went our separate ways. My husband, Bear, is more ummm... ethnically in line with me. He is light skinned but he is also more American Indian than most. I know this may sound weird, but most people do not understand "our ways" so to speak. My ex did not discount it but it bothered him with how my grandmother (paternal) was a "pagan" in his eyes. To me, she was just abuela- the old one, the matriarch, that taught me so many things.

posted January 05, 2011 05:14 AM            

I never looked at color other than "we are different and different is good".

posted January 05, 2011 11:19 AM            

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Originally posted by BearsArcher:
Hi Road,

I believe we have a lot in common. My Father's family (Spanish) comes more from the area that the Moors conquered, we call them (us) Basque. You can always tell someone that is Moorish or Basque but looking at the gums in our mouths. African American's have the same dark tint (Glaucus, you can attest to that) which proves a specific Spanish decent.

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I am confused by your statement. I am not African American. My ancestry consists of Black African,Portuguese,English,German,French,Italian,Puerto Rican,Native American Cherokee.
There is also a strong possibility of Jew and Eastern European as my mitochondria DNA (the matrilineal genetics) has genetic matches with people that are Jew and Eastern European. My haplogroup/subclade is J1c.

The color of African Americans vary because there is a lot of mixing had been going on in United States that went on since the the slavery days. dark brown to almost black skinned people were brought to the USA as slaves. There was rape by slave masters and, and so biracial kids were born.
Most African Americans have at least some European in them. A quarter of European Americans have some African in them. Many "light skinned blacks" past crossed the color lines and past for white. My stepfather's mother was one of those people. She was from Trinidad. My stepfather who was born and raised in Boston, told me that he was mixed with Black,White,Native American,and Polynesian. Many African Americans are part Native American too. Some Native American tribes had African American slaves. There are some that mixed as equals.

Good point about the Moors. Berbers also occupied the Iberian Peninsula (Spain and Portugal). Iberian celtic people, Romans,Visigoths,Carthaginians,Greeks,and Phoenicians have been in the Iberian Peninsula. I read about that stuff when I did research on Spain and Portugal. I did reports on those countries when I was in school. I also wanted to learn about my roots from those countries. My maternal grandfather definitely had an appearance of somebody who is of arab ancestry. He even looked like Saddam Hussein,and my mom even agreed with me on that. One of my navy coworkers thought so too. I have to admit that I look like I could be of arab ancestry too, and some people have mistaken for being arab. I know that it has to do with my Portuguese and Spanish ancestry. My mom looks like she could be Spanish,Portuguese,French,and/or Italian with her peaches n' cream complexion that tans easily to a beige color with her dark brown hair and her medium brown eyes that don't look like a regular shade of brown. Her mother was pale complected with fiery auburn hair and was 5'9. She was taller than my grandfather who was 5'7.

My grandfather married a Puerto Rican,Spanish woman for the rest of his life after his very brief marriage to my mom's mom. 3 of their 4 children have dark tan/light brown skin like I do. Their complexion is like their mother. 1 of them has yellowish skin that tans like my grandfather.

My biological father had medium to dark brown skin. He look like a regular type of African American. He was born in New Orleans,Louisiana. He was a Black Creole ancestry (Black,French,and Cherokee Native American). My mom said something about his father was from Jamaica. I never heard of Jamaica until my mom told me about my father's father being from there.

With my being born to a father with medium-dark brown skin and a mother with peaches n' cream skin that tans to a beige, I was born with pale yellow skin as a baby that eventually got darker to a dark tan/light brown with significant yellowish tones in my skin. Blues,greens,and mixed blue-green colors tend to bring out the yellow tones in my skin.

Barack Obama has dark tan/light brown skin with his white mother having a peach colored skin, and his African father having skin that is almost black-colored. His complexion is like between my color and my stepfather's. His lips seem like the color of my stepfather's. Interestingly, his birthday of August 4th is the same as my stepfather's.

On both 2000 and 2010 US Census forms, I identified as African African/Black, European American/White, Native American, and Hispanic.

Only 2.4 percent of 2000 US Census takers identified as multiracial,and I was one of them. I am not sure what the percentage is today.

Many multiracial people pushed to get changes made to forms so people can identify as more than one ethnic group, and so changes were made that allowed multiethnic people to pick multiple boxes. If I had known about that stuff, I would have been one of the activists pushing for it.

The NAACP wants every person that is part Black African to identify to pick only one box on the form, and that's Black African. They want multiethnic people w/ Black African like me to not pick multiple boxes. They care about Black African American rights, but they don't care about multiethnic rights. I am not going to deny a big part of my heritage.
That's why I don't support the NAACP.

I am very passionate about my multiethnic ancestry, and I don't like being put in a box that I don't fit at all. My mixed ancestry w/ being part African is 2nd greatest life challenge.

if you want to look at it Astrologically

My t-square reflects the conflict

Moon in Pisces in 6th square the opposition of retrograde Saturn in Gemini in 9th and Jupiter-Neptune in Sagittarius in 3rd.

My Moon square Neptune fits with being so-called "confused" which was often a term that I have been given out of disrespect for my mixed ancestry. Of course, I was confused whenever I had to go over a form.

I was given a hard time in the navy because I was picking multiple boxes for ethnic group. They would put me in just one box,and I'd get very irritated by it. One time, a senior chief chewed me out for picking multiple ethnic boxes, and he told me to pick one. I told him, "No...I can't do that because I am more than one." Man...I would have been ready to go on report and have Captain's Mast to fight for my multiethnic identity. Some people don't understand say that it's about being ashamed of being Black African American. It is not. It's about not being ashamed of my ancestry. It's about me wanting all my ancestry to be acknowledged and accepted.

The United States of America is said to be a "melting pot", but the "one drop rule" still exists. That was a rule that was created to keep the "white race" pure. That rule should have been abolished with the 1967 Loving vs. Virginia Supreme Court ruling that struck down all anti-miscegenation laws in the USA. Before that ruling, it was against the law for Black African Americans to mix with European Americans in many states.

Melting pot Americans like me aren't acknowledged and accepted for who and what we are. It's like people believe that you can only be of one ethnic group.

I believe that it's well past the time to change that.

I know that there are far more multiethnic Americans than 2.4 percent. There is probably at least 25 percent. I even read that at least 25 percent of European Americans have at some Black African ancestry.

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posted January 05, 2011 12:23 PM            

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Originally posted by lechien:
a good friend of mine is what people would commonly call a Nympho, some might say she's even a ***** , but she comes from a very pure and innocent place in her desire to mate with the opposite sex (*mainly* opposite sex). she's really non-stop in the area.

i'm looking at her chart and it does indicate a very sexual energy. she's a Cancer Sun with Pisces AC, Moon cj. Uranus exact in Scorpio 8th house, Mars cj. Saturn exact on DC, Gemini Venus trine Libra Pluto exact, Venus square Mars, etc. etc. i used to think i was pretty sexual, but when i saw her chart immediately accepted she was the winner.

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posted January 05, 2011 12:25 PM            

Genetically, Moors and some AA from a specific area have a tinge to their gums (outside of the normal gum coloring). It is hard to explain- my ex husband explained it to me (he is the DNA guy) because I had always noticed that although I am light skinned and more hispanic looking, I have color on my gums (not pink). It is a genetic trait that is handed down from the Moors through the Spanish line.

posted January 05, 2011 12:58 PM            

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Originally posted by BearsArcher:
Hi Glaucus-

Genetically, Moors and some AA from a specific area have a tinge to their gums (outside of the normal gum coloring). It is hard to explain- my ex husband explained it to me (he is the DNA guy) because I had always noticed that although I am light skinned and more hispanic looking, I have color on my gums (not pink). It is a genetic trait that is handed down from the Moors through the Spanish line.

Oh.. did you think I meant the color of the skin? I think I put the period in my sentence instead of a comma. Sorry for the confusion. I was only talking about variations in the gums and genetic differences.

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Oh...I didn't know that. I learned something new.

I don't have that myself. Black Africans did mix with non Black Africans in Africa. This is evident in Eastern African countries like Somalia and Kenya.

I think the Moors,Berbers,Arabs that occupied the Iberian peninsula might actually have some Black African ancestry.

Carthaginians came from North Africa. Phoenicians centered in the north of Ancient Canaan known as the Levant which included Israel,Lebanon,and parts of Syria and Lebanon.

The Black African slaves that were brought to America were mainly from West Africa and Central Africa.

I wish that I knew my ancestral African country roots like I know my ancestral European country roots in regards to countries. They would be from West Africa and/or Central Africa.

I am going to take a Y DNA test which tests the patrilineal line. I took my mitochondria DNA test from ancestry.com

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posted January 05, 2011 04:41 PM            

I'm not saying at all what you said is racist. But that is a bad and incorrect sterotype to say that black people or African Americans have dark gums.

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