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Ami Anne
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posted January 07, 2011 11:16 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
AG
Your Sag is showing

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Jesus never put his trust in man cuz he knew what was in man.
Pluto conjunct Deja ,Bruh.

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AcousticGod
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posted January 07, 2011 02:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AcousticGod     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
roadwarrior, I'm curious about what quintiles you might have. Do you know?

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mochai
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posted January 07, 2011 03:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mochai     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by roadwarriorsdp:
I probably should actually...I need a good outlet for pluto trine mars...I feel that fire flowing in me all the time.

Funny thing is I was doing tantric research right now looking for an excuse to do it.


I'm really loving Aghora II: Kundalini for studying the basics of real tantra. It was recommended to me by iq and I'm almost done with it. http://www.amazon.com/AGHORA-II-Kundalini-Aghora-Vol/dp/0914732315

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posted January 07, 2011 03:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for BanxxManxx     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think the video is kind of lame. You seem a little desperate. What you need to do is go to a comedy club, stand up in front of people and see if they like you. Video tape that. Also the talk about how destroying things is good was pretty dumb and not true. You are supposed to help create, not destroy. Creation is inherent in all of our natures unless you are just plain evil.

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mochai
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posted January 07, 2011 03:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mochai     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
If destruction is evil, why does it exist? It has karmic repercussions and I much prefer non-violence. I just get wrapped up in how if existance is perfect and so is god, how can it be so twisted?

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posted January 07, 2011 03:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for BanxxManxx     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by mochai:
If destruction is evil, why does it exist? It has karmic repercussions and I much prefer non-violence. I just get wrapped up in how if existance is perfect and so is god, how can it be so twisted?

destruction is evil because of free will. People have free will to choose to destroy or to choose to create. The creator didn't make us as robots dipsh1t. Think about it.

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posted January 07, 2011 03:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mochai     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by BanxxManxx:
destruction is evil because of free will. People have free will to choose to destroy or to choose to create. The creator didn't make us as robots dipsh1t. Think about it.

Isn't negativity destructive too?

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posted January 07, 2011 03:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for BanxxManxx     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by mochai:
Isn't negativity destructive too?

No. It gets peoples attention when they are being an idiot.

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posted January 07, 2011 03:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AcousticGod     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Actually, the second-most-evolved sign, Aquarius, is about destruction. When a building is destroyed a new and better one can replace it, so he's right in thinking destruction is creative. It is part of the process. Just like every process we have. If we find a better one, we scrap what we used to have.

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posted January 07, 2011 03:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mochai     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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No. It gets people attention when they are being an idiot.

I think we will enter a philosophical black hole if we continue this. I can't understand why a perfect creator would create souls who would be inclined to destructive tendencies. If violence is so bad why do dieties like kalli exist?

Also the negativity thing, people calling me an idiot, makes me fearful for whatever that is worth. I can't say I care for the vibration.

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posted January 07, 2011 03:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for BanxxManxx     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
He was referring to a destroying nature. Learn to read between the lines. He likes "chaos". So does evil. It messes up the Creators plan.....or tries too.

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posted January 07, 2011 03:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mochai     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Also, AG I agree with you on the destructive creative process.

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posted January 07, 2011 03:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mochai     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
There is creation in death. Every thought is creative is it not?

On a side note, are you doing ok?

I'd also say chaos is very creative too. If the creator is omniscient and perfect, I cannot understand it's existance.

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posted January 07, 2011 03:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for BanxxManxx     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by mochai:
I think we will enter a philosophical black hole if we continue this. I can't understand why a perfect creator would create souls who would be inclined to destructive tendencies. If violence is so bad why do dieties like kalli exist?

Also the negativity thing, people calling me an idiot, makes me fearful for whatever that is worth. I can't say I care for the vibration.


They exist because Kalli had free will and chose to go on the path of evil. Others choose to follow Kalli and go down the path of evil as well. You are given a choice as a spirit being. If we were robots, we would be predestined, we would be controlled, that is when The Creator would truly be an assh0le but it is not. The Ultimate Creator doesn't work this way. It is your choice if you want to follow the weak, down a path of evil or if you want to go up the righteous path, I can only try to steer you the right way, if you don't want to listen then I am not responsible for what happens to you in the end.

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posted January 07, 2011 04:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mochai     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hey Banx, I don't want evil, but I do want an existance beyond duality. If you call that evil, fair enough. I know you're more attunded to bhakti than I am, so I can understand that mindset. Unfortunately my soul seems to like the surya nadi better, so I find the devotional/chandra side a little harder.

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posted January 07, 2011 04:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for BanxxManxx     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Also, the Universal Creator IS perfect. He gives you the option to follow your own desires. He gives you the option to follow the self or that which is "evil". He also gives you the option to follow the service to others.

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posted January 07, 2011 04:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AcousticGod     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The created is seldom a perfect reflection of the creator.

Banx, everything in life doesn't segregate between good and evil. If you destroy a vocal melody in favor of a better one, that doesn't make you evil. IF mochai needs to read between the lines, you need to widen your scope of understanding.

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posted January 07, 2011 04:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for BanxxManxx     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
There is an existence beyond duality. I transcend your ideas.

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posted January 07, 2011 04:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mochai     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by BanxxManxx:
Also, the Universal Creator IS perfect. He gives you the option to follow your own desires. He gives you the option to follow the self or that which is "evil". He also gives you the option to follow the service to others.

If he creates souls inclined to the left hand path, god creates evil. I mean really..

Usually the chandra path you describe banx is a dualistic path at least in the tantric books however that is somewhat subjective to the tantrics point of view.

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posted January 07, 2011 04:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for BanxxManxx     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by mochai:
If he creates souls inclined to the left hand path, god creates evil. I mean really..

Usually the chandra path you describe banx is a dualistic path at least in the tantric books however that is somewhat subjective to the tantrics point of view.


What don't you understand about Free will? "God" or rather The Creator did not create "evil", he created free will. Put this into your brain and stir it around for a little while.

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posted January 07, 2011 04:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mochai     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by BanxxManxx:
What don't you understand about Free will? "God" or rather The Creator did not create "evil", he created free will. Put this into your brain and stir it around for a little while.

That's fine if you don't want to see the divinity all around you. Bhakti is a much safer path.

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posted January 07, 2011 04:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for BanxxManxx     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by mochai:
That's fine if you don't want to see the divinity all around you. Bhakti is a much safer path.

haha! What is divine about killing someone? Do you even know what you are talking about? You are a weak minded person who goes from one fad to another. How much money have you given to IQ so far? You don't just jump around from one new age idea to the next because it makes you feel "spiritual". There are laws inherent in the universe. You are a very confused person because you do not determine what is right and what is wrong, you are just going with the flow when people tell you something and it is getting you all mixed up until you have no clue what you believe.

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posted January 07, 2011 04:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mochai     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I hardly talk to iq and I have given him no money because I really have none to give. For whatever it's worth our mc/ic ac/dc axis conjunct so I probably have better access to him than I'm willing to use. I read. I research. The path of jnani is fortunately or unfortunately what my soul has spent more lifetimes on for whatever reason. It doesn't matter. The thing I care most about is finding love and being there for others.

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posted January 07, 2011 04:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for BanxxManxx     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Also, don't use little human terms like "Bhakti", to describe me. You have no idea just exactly what I am. Supra. I go beyond your ideologies. I only bow to The Supreme Being. My world is on a whole other level.

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posted January 07, 2011 04:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mochai     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by BanxxManxx:
Also, don't use little human terms like "Bhakti", to describe me. You have no idea just exactly what I am. Supra. I go beyond your ideologies. I only bow to The Supreme Being. My world is on a whole other level.

That is very much like a bhakti to say. It describes a broad path. I don't limit you to it because some of my practice is bhakti too. You just take to it better.

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