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VenusDiSirius
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posted January 06, 2011 03:41 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for VenusDiSirius     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Glaucus:

From my studies of Greek mythology, I remember
Apollo was the god known for his manly beauty.
He was the god of light,healing,prophecy,archery,and music. He was later considered God of the Sun.
He was the twin brother of Artemis, son of Zeus and Leto.
He is the only Greek deity who has the same name as the Roman version of him.

If you want to talk about mortal women in regards to beauty,

There is Psyche who was compared to Aphrodite in beauty by mortals that Aphrodite was jealous. Aphrodite ordered her son, Eros to make Psyche fall in love with a monster. Eros fell in love with her instead, and he married her in secret. Psyche eventually found out by sneaking up to him with a lit candle one night, and Eros left with a feeling of betrayal. To make the long story short, Psyche did tasks for Aphrodite. In the end, she and reunited with Eros. She was given immortality.

Another woman who wasn't a goddess was Helen , the daughter of Zeus and Leda. Zeus came unto Leda as a swan. Leda was said to bring out 2 eggs. One egg hatched, and out came Helen and Pollux - the children of Zeus. The other egg hatched, and out came Clytemnestra and Castor.

She ended up married to Menelaus who was given the kingdom of Sparta by Tyndareus. Of course, Paris took after being promised to her Aphrodite who had bribed Paris that she would give him the most beautiful woman in the world. Well...That resulted in the Trojan War.


It can be argued that Apollo can be used for masculine beauty and not just Adonis.

It can be argued that Psyche and Helena can be used for feminine beauty.


Adonis=symbol of beauty.
Apollo is almost asexual.(that is he is not really 'famous' for his love doing) athough still noted
for his good looks,but not symbol.
There r two 'teams' apollo and dyonisis... Apollo in his most interpretations is indeed god,not carnal=not seen as good looking. Higher form. Dyonisis in his desires... Well,very humane

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posted January 06, 2011 03:50 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Glaucus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

In mythology, Apollo had his children too
notably Asclepius, the God of Medicine. Apollo found Asclepius' mother, Coronis cheated on her, and he killed her. He saved his unborn son though.


Apollo had children with other mortal woman. One was Linus who was Heracles' music teacher. He slapped Heracles because he was impatient with Heracles trouble with learning music. Heracles killed him one blow of the musical instrument he was playing.


Apollo even raped a woman. The woman put the kid up for adoption, and he ended up being a priest of Apollo.


Apollo was also said to be the father of the musician Orpheus with Calliope, the Muse of Epic Poetry.


Apollo was not an asexual god in Greek/Roman mythology.

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posted January 06, 2011 03:57 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for joyrjw     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I don't think i"ve responded to this one yet.
Hopefully not, since I am,

My Aphrodite is in Capricorn in my 8th house
it's sextile my Sun trine my Jupiter sextile my Mars and semi square my Midheaven.

I found some cool information on Aphrodite.

Hopefully it's useful.

We may no longer worship Aphrodite, but Aphrodite is an archetypal representation of sexuality, pleasure, vanity and beauty. So what is an archetype? An archetype is an original model, or pattern; a fundamental image which we all unconsciously carry from ancient times, embedded deep within our collective and individual psyches.

Venus was originally Aphrodite

For example, let's take a look at APHRODITE. In astrology she corresponds to the planet Venus, and Venus rules the signs of Taurus and Libra.
Aphrodite was best known as the Greek Goddess of love and beauty. Yet her origins are more ancient still. She had many emanations and was immortalised in many sources. Not unlike Kali, she was a triple-natured goddess, being virgin, mother and crone. Her connections date back to the Lady of Byblos, Astarte.

The Greek Aphrodite was an embodiment of both female wisdom and sexual power. She was born from the severed genitals of her father Ouranus, or rather from the foam they created as they fell into the sea. Aphrodite was both beauty and love personified, and would restore youth and beauty to those who honoured her. In Greek myth she was married off to the ugly god, Hephaestus, yet she rarely shared his bed. Her lover was Ares, the potent and extremist god of war. Aphrodite was also highly self-indulgent and vain.
When she later became assimilated into Roman religion, she became identified with temple prostitution and sacred, sexual ritual.
ASTROLOGICAL KEYWORDS: BEAUTY, SEXUAL PLEASURE, LOVE, VANITY.
http://theastrologyroom.com/guides/mythic-astrology-part-1

http://books.google.com/books?id=lmv4930JbY0C&pg=PA719&lpg=PA719&dq=Aphrodite+in+the+signs+in+astrology.&source=bl&ots=MHphMQQq4I&sig=26tpW3Pa1XJiUvV4k_oWMbpt2rQ&hl=en&ei=3YAlTbqYO 47EsAOM4c32AQ&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=10&sqi=2&ved=0CFMQ6AEwCQ#v=onepage&q=Aphrodite%20in%20the%20signs%20in%20astrology.&f=false

http://www.1888articles.com/aphrodite-in-astrology-called-venu-0jv40mz159.html


Since the early days of the Mayans, the power that heavenly bodies exerted over life on the planet Earth has been spoken of in many circles as being for entertainment only. However, using their own powers, Mayan women established their own proof that this power did exist and is the basis for this numerological-based civilization's belief in the powers of astrology. Venus, the goddess of love was renamed from Aphrodite in astrology in ancient Greek times, as she was considered the embodiment of the virgin, the mother and the unmarried crone.

She is said to have been from the foam of the sea into which her father's severed genitals were tossed and the name Aphrodite in astrology is said to bear that meaning. However, as astrology become more widely practiced, when the methods reached Rome, her name was changed to Venus, although the idea of her being able to make any man fall in love with her just by looking at her eyes, still holds a spark of truth in today's astrological beliefs.

Aphrodite in astrology was the daughter of Ouranus; Uranus in today's celestial times, yet has never been depicted as a child. Every rendering in drawings and in stone statues show her as an adult, desirable female. In astrology, Venus represents the bringing together of many parts to form a single entity stronger than the sum of the separate parts.

Planetary Shifts Cause Changes On Planetary Scale

As celestial bodies revolve through space, Aphrodite in astrology, known now as Venus, changes the actions and thoughts of persons born under different astrological signs. For example, when Venus moves into the Virgo's house, persons born under that sign have a desire to help others yet can be overly critical of loved ones. When in the house of Libra, Venus creates a sense of harmony in relationships, making them excellent matchmakers.

The guidance of Aphrodite in astrology is often misunderstood as Venus is considered to be the embodiment of love and passion. While the planet retains much of those traits as it moves through celestial houses, it can also help spread the individuals passions for finer arts. Additionally, it can have a profound affect on the feelings a person living under the Venus-influenced house faces many Earthly tasks.

For instance, when Aphrodite in astrology moves into the house of Aries, it can create a personality that is more self-serving in relationships, rather than the desire to help as with Virgo. Although Venus can induce more passion in any project undertaken by an Aries.

This article from http://www.astrographix.com is about Aphrodite In Astrology


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posted January 06, 2011 04:01 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for VenusDiSirius     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Glaucus:

In mythology, Apollo had his children too
notably Asclepius, the God of Medicine. Apollo found Asclepius' mother, Coronis cheated on her, and he killed her. He saved his unborn son though.


Apollo had children with other mortal woman. One was Linus who was Heracles' music teacher. He slapped Heracles because he was impatient with Heracles trouble with learning music. Heracles killed him one blow of the musical instrument he was playing.


Apollo even raped a woman. The woman put the kid up for adoption, and he ended up being a priest of Apollo.


Apollo was also said to be the father of the musician Orpheus with Calliope, the Muse of Epic Poetry.


Apollo was not an asexual god in Greek/Roman mythology.


I didn't say apollo was... I said how he was treated and percieved. He is not symbol of beauty; symbols operate through popular veil. Adonis=symbol. Apollo=not. He may be to u,or anyone who knows mythology,who likes to put his looks first and other qualities later on. Still,that doesn't make him the symbol. Reason why adonis is symbol is that he is of human ancestry. Antromorphic MO.

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posted January 06, 2011 04:14 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Glaucus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I disagree with that


It really depends on one's views,beliefs,and perceptions. That definitely effects Mythology which varies a lot


Apollo (əpŏl`ō , in Greek religion and mythology, one of the most important Olympian gods, concerned especially with prophecy, medicine, music and poetry, archery, and various bucolic arts, particularly the care of flocks and herds. He was also frequently associated with the higher developments of civilization, such as law, philosophy, and the arts. As patron of music and poetry he was often connected with the Muses. Apollo may have been first worshiped by primitive shepherds as a god of pastures and flocks, but it was as a god of light, Phoebus or Phoebus Apollo, that he was most widely known. After the 5th cent. B.C. he was frequently identified with Helios, the sun god. Apollo was the father of Aristaeus, Asclepius, and, in some legends, Orpheus, although his amorous affairs were not particularly successful. Daphne turned into a laurel rather than submit to him, and Marpessa refused him in favor of a mortal. He gave Cassandra the gift of prophecy, and when she disappointed him, he decreed that no one would believe her prophecies. His chief oracular shrine was at Delphi, which he was said to have seized, while still an infant, by killing its guardian, the serpent Python. This event was celebrated every eight years in the festival of the Stepteria. Other festivals held in Apollo's honor included the yearly Thargelia, to celebrate spring, and the Pythia, held every four years to honor his victory over the Python. Besides Delphi, his other notable shrines were at Branchidae, Claros, Patara, and on the island of Delos, where, it was said, he and his twin sister, Artemis, were born to Leto and Zeus. In Roman religion, Apollo was worshiped in various forms, most significantly as a god of healing and of prophecy. In art he was portrayed as the perfection of youth and beauty. The most celebrated statue of him is the

Apollo Belvedere, a marble statue in the Belvedere of the Vatican.
http://encyclopedia2.thefreedictionary.com/Apollo+%28god%29

A·pol·lo
   /əˈpɒloʊ/ Show Spelled[uh-pol-oh] Show IPA
–noun, plural -los for 2, 3.
1.
the ancient Greek and Roman god of light, healing, music, poetry, prophecy, and manly beauty; the son of Leto and brother of Artemis.
2.
a very handsome young man.
3.
Aerospace . one of a series of U.S. spacecraft designed to carry astronauts to the moon and back
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/Apollo

That's just some examples.


When I was growing up reading mythology, I always thought Apollo when I thought about manly beauty in regards to Greek/Roman mythology.

Baldur in regards to Norse mythology

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posted January 06, 2011 04:23 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for VenusDiSirius     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
There was apollo cult. There was dyonisis cult. I said everything with that.
Any god can be symbol of beauty. As for affairs,rape,and so on... U can't not explore any mythology with 21.century shaped mind.
I am magister of history of art. U can take my word on it. Geez,i can't believe u copy&paste that...

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posted January 06, 2011 04:34 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Glaucus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by VenusDiSirius:
There was apollo cult. There was dyonisis cult. I said everything with that.
Any god can be symbol of beauty. As for affairs,rape,and so on... U can't not explore any mythology with 21.century shaped mind.
I am magister of history of art. U can take my word on it. Geez,i can't believe u copy&paste that...

if any god can be a symbol of beauty, and mortal like Adonis can too

in mythology was known for his qualities of manly beauty
He was even the God of Light
Light and Beauty were often thought to be connected just light Dark and Ugliness were often thought to be connected.

Even to this very day, the term "dark" often refers to bad stuff, and light refers to good stuff.


why can't I explore mythology with 21st century shaped mind or any other century shaped mind for that matter?

who are you to dictate what I can or cannot do??

I just expressed my views just like you expressed yours

I pasted things to make a point.

There is nothing wrong with it.

I don't give a damn about your magister of history of art. It doesn't mean that you know everything and that's you're right.

I have my own views,beliefs,and opinions just like you have yours.


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posted January 06, 2011 07:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Agent_009     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Still_Hopeful:
Agent_009
can you elaborate little bit more on
"I have Sun sq. Aphrodite exact. I remember IQ saying that effect = looks causing one problems. It's true for me."

What kind of problems? My baby has this placement


STILL_HOPEFUL,

Dont get too worried yet! It really depends on other factors in your baby's chart as well.

Sun is your basic ego, with Aphrodite squaring it means...Aphrod related areas might cause problems for the individual's basic self. This could manifest in many different ways, (physically or mentally/emotionally) depending on other aspects in one's chart. Personally I feel, because Aphrod is an asteroid, it emphasizes the mental/emotions (according to how it's affected me). I dont think it really affected my looks at all. Since the square is, "malefic," theoretically my looks would've taken a huge beating.

Anyways an example; maybe the person is overly critical/vain & never feels satisfied with their looks. Hence their self esteem (sun) takes a beating, & may develop eating disorders or depression.

In my case, I dont really have self esteem issues. This aspect has manifested differently for me, but nevertheless my basic self has taken a beating. I have Libra ASC with Pluto-Venus 1H. It's basically attracted me all sorts of crazies, (as Pluto-Venus causes, "sexual obsession," with others or the self). I deal with lots of sexual harassment at work. Almost every male boss I've ever had has fallen for me in some shape or form. Some have treated me badly or even firing me after I rejected their advances. It's definitely caused lots of stress/problems in my career, not to mention holding me back from a steady climb up the work heiarchy...(which in turn affects my basic self). My initial problem is caused by Pluto-Venus, but how I mentally deal with the problem is Sun-Aphro. I suppose if I had Sun conjunct or trine Aphrod instead, I may revel in the attention & use it to my advantage? However, I dont...

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posted January 06, 2011 07:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Still_Hopeful     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Agent_009 thank you.
According to ur post, I guess you are very beautiful and the beauty can be a curse.
My baby has Pluto in 1st house (pluto conj NN 0 degree) and Pluto wide conj ascending (6 dregree).
I will definately make sure she has a great image of herself
What is ur asc? her asc is sag. sun in scorpio

Opps: U wrote ur asc Libra.... You are def. beautiful

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posted January 08, 2011 04:40 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Chaos     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Aphrodite conjuncts my Mercury & MC exact (and Sun, but that's a 2 degree orb), sextile my Eros...Nah, I don't think I'm hot, but I do have a beautiful singing voice...

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posted January 13, 2011 01:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for alanabelle86     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Aphrodite conj. Ascendant here :-)

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