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Topic: Cancers are NOT "live and let live"
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RunAroundScreaming Knowflake Posts: 383 From: USA Registered: Oct 2010
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posted January 16, 2011 10:18 PM
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VenusDiSirius Knowflake Posts: 680 From: Praha Registered: Aug 2010
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posted January 16, 2011 10:23 PM
really?? Nooo,shocking Have u noticed correlation between words smother and mother?? Mother,moon's archetype! U know where moon's domicile is ... IP: Logged |
RunAroundScreaming Knowflake Posts: 383 From: USA Registered: Oct 2010
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posted January 16, 2011 10:25 PM
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VenusDiSirius Knowflake Posts: 680 From: Praha Registered: Aug 2010
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posted January 16, 2011 10:29 PM
quote: Originally posted by RunAroundScreaming: Um, yeah. Thankssss.. for taking the positive quality I was talking about and only noticing the negative in it. You negative-er !!:P
Oh,no! Cancer has positive traits... Just,it is never good to monitor somebody. And i was joking! Fun,doll,fun! IP: Logged |
RunAroundScreaming Knowflake Posts: 383 From: USA Registered: Oct 2010
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posted January 16, 2011 10:42 PM
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RunAroundScreaming Knowflake Posts: 383 From: USA Registered: Oct 2010
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posted January 16, 2011 10:42 PM
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Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 5733 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
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posted January 17, 2011 03:27 AM
I have Cancer Moon and Mars. Someone told me that Cancers make nests whereas Aqua's love the world. With a Cancer, you must be in his/her nest to be smothered . I think that is true. We are nest centric ------------------ Jesus never put his trust in man cuz he knew what was in man. You must face the dregs of Nessus to touch the love and beauty of Neptune. Me IP: Logged |
mir Knowflake Posts: 439 From: Registered: May 2009
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posted January 17, 2011 06:31 AM
````Cancers are NOT "live and let live"What I mean is, that they want to spark other people to change their lives in some way...to be better in some way, specifically```` **** This is so soo sooo true! My best friend (Cancer-Sun/Mercury/Venus) is exactly like that.. he also has a very negative world view and feels extremely responsible for the artistic development in EVERYONE! So he pushes pushes and pushes you to make yourself an artist because for him it's the only way to escape a cruel world. As a 12th Leo-Sun - with not a very positive world view herself - I can handle it but I know most can't. IP: Logged |
Moons Of Jupiter Knowflake Posts: 141 From: Australia Registered: Jun 2010
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posted January 17, 2011 06:31 AM
Yeeeees....We want to affect people and cause them to change for the better, and of course sometimes come off as obnoxious and lecturing, other times smothering and annoying. Can't win 'em all. IP: Logged |
RunAroundScreaming Knowflake Posts: 383 From: USA Registered: Oct 2010
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posted January 17, 2011 11:03 AM
Arent aries and caps kinda like that, too, though?Gemini too ....MAYBE IP: Logged |
VenusDiSirius Knowflake Posts: 680 From: Praha Registered: Aug 2010
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posted January 17, 2011 11:15 AM
quote: Originally posted by RunAroundScreaming: Arent aries and caps kinda like that, too, though?Gemini too ....MAYBE
Aries:independent=no emo around Cappy:solitary=ditto Gemini: Air IP: Logged |
coconutcancermoon Moderator Posts: 390 From: A Place of Pure Love Registered: Nov 2010
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posted January 17, 2011 12:31 PM
quote: Originally posted by Ami Anne: I have Cancer Moon and Mars. Someone told me that Cancers make nests whereas Aqua's love the world. With a Cancer, you must be in his/her nest to be smothered . I think that is true. We are nest centric
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blonderiverkat Moderator Posts: 730 From: Tri-State Area Registered: Nov 2010
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posted January 17, 2011 01:46 PM
My youngest son is Cancer Sun...very gifted, but VERY intense and sensitive...we have Cancer/Cappy everywhere in my fam...my daughter is Cappy sun, opposing her brother at exactly 1 deg....my other son is Cancer rising, and I am Cappy rising...he is Aries Sun, I am Libra...our suns oppose each other at 4 degrees...we have an interesting cross within myself and my 3 children.. IP: Logged |
Chaos Knowflake Posts: 96 From: Serbia Registered: Aug 2010
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posted January 18, 2011 10:41 AM
My best friend is a Cancer Sun/Merc/Mars, and I love her dearly, but she does this thing that p***es me off, and that's getting into other people's business...It's not just people that are close to her (parents, cousins, friends...), but some completely unimportant people she doesn't even know well...Sometimes (well, oftentimes) she bothers me by constantly talking about some chick/bloke I don't know (and as I mentioned, even she doesn't know well), what they wear, what they say, how they act, etc, and then she analyses all that, and draws some kind of (usually negative) conclusion. She can be judgmental too. Maybe it's her 7th house Sun that makes her preoccupied with other people & her Gemini moon makes her so talkative & analyzing...or maybe it's her 8th house Mars-Mercury conjunction that drives her to get into people's business & search for a deeper motive behind their behavior. I've warned her multiple times that I'm NOT INTERESTED in those kind of stories about others that don't mean anything to me, but she can't stop, it's some sort of a reflex, an unconscious doing from her side, she can't help it. I mean, she's a great friend, she'll do anything for the people she loves (yeah, thouse couple of people she can stand, LOL), but that one thing about her just bothers my Capricorn nature!
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RunAroundScreaming Knowflake Posts: 383 From: USA Registered: Oct 2010
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posted January 18, 2011 03:32 PM
Lol...that's funny. That is really something. You know? That sounds very similar to my situation. I have two best friends. One's a cap girl, the other's a libra guy. I do this a lot too, not quite to the point that your friend does, but I always talk about how everyone tries to imitate black people and what big losers they are for it, and how people in miami have no class. My libra friend and I completely agree on this and feel very supported by the other everytime we talk about it with each other. I feel like i can talk about anything with him. Literally, we talk about the most taboo to the most lighthearted, all in an honest easy way.My capricorn friend, though, has the habit of wanting to censor me. She doesnt like it wheb i talk about serious things, or emotional things, or even when i remind her of certain things that have happened in the past. She makes everything complicated with her lack of ability to accept things as they are. She has a lot of "rules." She also has these same opinions as me...she even talks about them a lot..but only about hipsters and hippies, never about ghetto people. Yet she goes and reprimands me for talking about who i dislike...when in fact i encourage her to vent her feelings about those damn hipsters she hates lol. She never looks at her own faults, yet always sorry for everything. She projects a lot. She doesnt like the fact that she's judgemental so she sees ME as judgemental instead. LOL. She wants to be this highly accepting person, who cant say no to anybody or turn anybody down, but she isn't because nobody is...that isnt normal. Except for maybe a pisces (but even they have limits). IP: Logged |
Chaos Knowflake Posts: 96 From: Serbia Registered: Aug 2010
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posted January 18, 2011 07:35 PM
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...My capricorn friend, though, has the habit of wanting to censor me. She doesnt like it wheb i talk about serious things, or emotional things, or even when i remind her of certain things that have happened in the past. She makes everything complicated with her lack of ability to accept things as they are. She has a lot of "rules." She also has these same opinions as me...she even talks about them a lot..but only about hipsters and hippies, never about ghetto people. Yet she goes and reprimands me for talking about who i dislike...when in fact i encourage her to vent her feelings about those damn hipsters she hates lol. She never looks at her own faults, yet always sorry for everything. She projects a lot. She doesnt like the fact that she's judgemental so she sees ME as judgemental instead. LOL. She wants to be this highly accepting person, who cant say no to anybody or turn anybody down, but she isn't because nobody is...that isnt normal. Except for maybe a pisces (but even they have limits).[/B]
It's not similar to my case...at all... I'm open minded, there are no taboos with me, no censoring, people can talk about anything, no matter how weird, insane or grotesque the topic is, I won't judge. The important thing is - I rarely discuss other people in their absence (especially in a negative context), that would be GOSSIP, and I don't do gossip. I especially don't discuss people I DON'T KNOW, cause...that's right, you guessed it - I DON'T KNOW WHO THEY REALLY ARE, I don't know nothing about them, therefore it's redundant & a waste of time to talk bulls**t for no reason about the person X (Y, Z, etc....). Also, I don't deal with lies & making things up (and that would be the exact thing), truth is my religion & my policy. If you have something to talk about (serious or humorous), I'm open to listen & argue, but make sure it's about YOU or ME (or others present), people involved in the conversation. The rest of the world...well, I don't care...I just don't, even if the whole world is discussing me, they just don't get it - they get nothing from that, just wasting their precious time as I get more popular, it's my gain and their losses... I am a typical LIVE AND LET PEOPLE LIVE (and avoid badmouthing them as much as you can) person! I don't really hate any particular person in the world, so I won't tolerate bad energy which is created by talking negatively about anyone, especially someone, I'm telling again, faceless, unknown & unimportant to me. So, I don't make up a bunch of rules, however, there is one that should be made a rule - AVOID HATEFUL CONVERSATION & GOSSIP with me! There are other more useful & creative ways to vent the tension...yeah, the tension, we all have it, not unwind the HATEFUL emotions. HATE = S**T, so people full of hate...well, ya know I hope you're able to grasp the concept of my post now that it's explained almost in detail...
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RunAroundScreaming Knowflake Posts: 383 From: USA Registered: Oct 2010
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posted January 18, 2011 08:26 PM
I guess that makes sense. No, it's not good to talk bad about everyone like that. I agree. But, it sounds like you dont really respect this friend of yours, is what I'm saying. Just like I dont really respect my "best friend" unfortunately...She may have a lot of nice qualities, but it sounds like she just annoys you, because that doesnt sound normal. IP: Logged |
Chaos Knowflake Posts: 96 From: Serbia Registered: Aug 2010
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posted January 18, 2011 08:40 PM
quote: Originally posted by RunAroundScreaming: I guess that makes sense. No, it's not good to talk bad about everyone like that. I agree. But, it sounds like you dont really respect this friend of yours, is what I'm saying. Just like I dont really respect my "best friend" unfortunately...She may have a lot of nice qualities, but it sounds like she just annoys you, because that doesnt sound normal.
Of course I respect her. Do you think I'd even bother to hang out with her & point out that ugly habit of hers to her if I didn't respect her? As you could conclude from my previous posts (or maybe you didn't), I don't waste my time on many people. Since I always speak my mind, I openly say what's bothering me, and if I care enough (and in her case, I do, because there are more things to love about her, than to be annoyed with), I'll repeat myself to the point where she stops doing that. She's making progress, though ...Less hate-talk from her...well, at least in my presence. She's a quality person & deserves to be even better, just needs to get that unimportant nonsense out of her head & dedicate her brain to more positive things. I think she's a bit depressed, so it makes her feel better when she talks s**t about someone...It'll pass with time, I guess, when she gets older & realizes it's the wrong thing...at least I hope so, cause I want her to STAY my best friend.
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Moons Of Jupiter Knowflake Posts: 141 From: Australia Registered: Jun 2010
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posted January 19, 2011 02:32 AM
Chaos - I totally get your frustration, I'm in the same situation, though not with a Cancer. I have a Leo/Scorpio friend who will take any opportunity to ***** about anything, and it drives me nuts. I've realized people who '***** ' a lot about 'things' actually take it as a point of pride about how analytical, observant, and rebellious to society they are (******** ). She wonders why people don't like spending time with her, and concludes that they're all jealous (but of course). As a result of my tuning out of this, she thinks I'm secretive and evasive, which is crap - when I engage in a topic that means something, I'm down with it all night long. Negative people drive me up the f***ing wall. Oh, and I'm a Cancer Sun, Asc and Mars. Though for some reason I VERY RARELY meet other Cancers (?). The ones I know are relatives and they are really good people, though maybe it's because I love them that I'm biased, but I haven't identified major astrological flaws on them (yet). So this social feedback on Cancers is really interesting, makes me think they're really kind of a handful to deal with. I can only hope I'm aware enough to avoid that fate myself!
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Moons Of Jupiter Knowflake Posts: 141 From: Australia Registered: Jun 2010
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posted January 19, 2011 02:38 AM
Dang, they bleeped out my entire point. Well **** that ********, but you get the ******* jist. IP: Logged |
lunagoatlion Knowflake Posts: 56 From: Registered: Oct 2010
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posted January 21, 2011 05:08 PM
Cancers are the biggest gossips I've ever met! All of my cancer female friends go on incessantly about other people, even those they claim are their best friends. I don't think they are doing it to gossip as much as they are simply prone to intense judgment. It's disturbing. And, they don't give anyone a break on anything while being somewhat blind to their very real flaws. They are good people, but a bit too focused on what everyone else is doing. Can a cancerian change that about themselves? Btw, I'm looney too. IP: Logged |
Chaos Knowflake Posts: 96 From: Serbia Registered: Aug 2010
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posted January 23, 2011 10:47 AM
quote: Originally posted by lunagoatlion: Cancers are the biggest gossips I've ever met! All of my cancer female friends go on incessantly about other people, even those they claim are their best friends. I don't think they are doing it to gossip as much as they are simply prone to intense judgment. It's disturbing. And, they don't give anyone a break on anything while being somewhat blind to their very real flaws. They are good people, but a bit too focused on what everyone else is doing. Can a cancerian change that about themselves? Btw, I'm looney too.
That's the thing I was trying to explain (obviously, not very good at explaining, especially if explaining in a 2nd language, lol)...I really don't know where that thing about Cancers comes from, why is it like that?!...
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stillatlarge Knowflake Posts: 25 From: TX Registered: Nov 2010
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posted January 23, 2011 11:08 AM
She will NEVER change. NEVER. She will onl get more sereptitious with it. I speak from painful experience and lots of it. There's a reason that you always look for a Cancerian first when there are hang-up calls, prank phone calls, anonymous calls to your boss,potential boss, inlaws, fiance', and general stalking kinds of behavior.IP: Logged |
lunagoatlion Knowflake Posts: 56 From: Registered: Oct 2010
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posted January 23, 2011 11:12 AM
I'm not sure, but it is irritating. I think it has something to do with the inherent paranoia that exists within Cancers and regarding those things which are ruled by the house in which Cancer dwells. Personally, I saw this tendency within me and rebelled against it with everything I had. I had to learn that what others do is really none of my business and that they will have to enjoy the benefits and/or suffer the consequences of their own actions the same way I will. Paying so much attention to others severely limits time I can spend on my own personal growth and from learning to be detached from things (which I believe is a life mission for me). The more Cancerians can detach, the better they are able to use their inherent gifts of empathy and nurturing in a focused way that truly helps and heals others instead of hindering and keeping them dependent on the oft times manipulative Cancer compassion. We have a great deal of potential to heal, but when we get involved to a level where we allow the deeds of others to turn us into gossips because we fear what misdeeds bring to our world, we exist at our lowest state. I purposely fast from criticism (Venus in Virgo) and fast from fear inspired gossip (Cancer sun) so that I am hyper aware of such tendencies. You, (EDIT) or all Cancers, should try it when they feel strong enough to do so after some mental preparation. It works wonders and lifts some of the perceived burdens on our naturally beautiful Cancerian souls. IP: Logged |
lunagoatlion Knowflake Posts: 56 From: Registered: Oct 2010
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posted January 23, 2011 11:18 AM
@stillatlarge, I never do those kinds of things. I don't think Cancers are that malicious as a whole. We tend to fantasize about vengeful things, but usually don't act on those thoughts. At least I don't. I've thought about doing those things when wronged, but the resulting consequences and how they will affect my growth usually stops me from moving forward. I have a couple of Scorpio and Aries friends that are notorious for their revenge and I think it's a bit strange. Actually, come to think of it, a Cancerian friend just told me that she is hated in her hometown because she did things like that when she was hurting over a man. As for me, I tend to run away from the conflict so that I'm not provoked into doing something I will later regret.EDIT: actually, I have 2 Libra friends who are very vengeful. One has a Cancer moon and one has a Scorpio moon. Maybe you're on to something there. I think Cancers will focus their will to try to change another person's, like resorting to spells and things. I have a Cancer friend who does that and I once tried to do that with an ex (and I'm not Wiccan, I'm a follower of Christ (certainly it's obvious :-). It didn't work, of course. It was a silly Internet spell to take a bath and chant to get an old flame to return. I was just hurting and desperate, which is no excuse, but my emotions, like everyone else's, are not black and white. Your xperiences, my behavior in desperation, and recalling the actions of some of my friends helps me see that I must guard against that tendency within myself, whether it is obvious or not. IP: Logged | |