posted January 29, 2011 01:58 PM            

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Originally posted by Lioness:
Well yes I am confident, but I do have my own insecurities also. Only I wont express them, and let anyone know about them... At least not face to face..

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posted January 29, 2011 02:07 PM            

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Originally posted by Glaucus:
I how it would be with
Your Makemake conjunct your Sun and Moon,and your Eris trine all that.

I'd think that there is a possibility of insecurities because of having a nonconformist nature. After you become secure in that nonconformist nature, you can achieve great power and touch the lives of others.

That evolutionary intensified nature of Makemake and Eris.

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Yes I understand what your saying..

thank you..

Venus
Also thank you toooooo

posted January 29, 2011 06:21 PM            

i agree with everyone so far.. you have debilitated jupiter near the mc-ic axis and and libra saturn at the ic.. i have libra jupiter conj saturn in the 4th, and my tightest orb in my whole chart is that saturn trine my 12th h gem moon! with it being trine it kind of stumped me.. my mom took off and barely saw her after, alcohalism and flighty personality and lots of her own issues and knowing her now and looking back i think her being there would have been more damage than good on my overall development and vs my needs, and we are kind of close now.. i tended to be the stern parent to my parents, scolding them for their behavior with my 11th house taurus stellium nature and idealism.. i was basically raised by a libra pothead father and my grandmother until she died of cancer when i was 12, numerous stepmothers or stand ins, some abusive, lots of carelessness.. i saw him as material driven and her as flighty and shallow, but i can see how they came together at one point..

one of my best friends in hs was a leo sun with a pisces asc.. his parents were both very aloof, had a lot of issues particularly emotionally unavailable and alcoholism.. both only thought of themselves, and that was his perspective on them also.. his father died the summer after we graduated, and his mother moved away.. they had divorced over our junior year though..

i think maybe the reason you don't have a lot of obviously harsh aspects is maybe you were able to develope good coping skills and could see them for who they were instead of thinking it was toward you or because of you, and you are human, it would obviously hurt, but you took it better than many would maybe? it may be because in the grand scheme this was good for you.. you got something good out of the lesson instead, though obviously changed by it, instead of it hindering you overtly?

posted January 29, 2011 06:36 PM            

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Originally posted by Taurus81:
and don't underestimate the effect of pluto squaring personal planets.. it squares your 4th cancer venus!

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I try to make a point about not underestimating the influence of Pluto's fellow transneptunian dwarf planet, Makemake conjunct both her Sun and Moon less than one degree orb. It's located between her Sun and Moon, conjunct her Sun/Moon midpoint.

Before she got her chart rectified, her Pluto was oppose/conjunct her Ascendant/Descendant less than 1 degree and closely square her Midheaven/Imum Coeli axis less than 1 degree.

That could indicate the intensity,transformation,regeneration, and evolutionary intensification involving her persona,relating with others,aim in life,and domestic environment.

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posted January 29, 2011 11:06 PM            

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Originally posted by Taurus81:

i think maybe the reason you don't have a lot of obviously harsh aspects is maybe you were able to develope good coping skills and could see them for who they were instead of thinking it was toward you or because of you, and you are human, it would obviously hurt, but you took it better than many would maybe? it may be because in the grand scheme this was good for you.. you got something good out of the lesson instead, though obviously changed by it, instead of it hindering you overtly?

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posted January 30, 2011 12:32 AM            

I just think the Makemake so closely conjunct the Sun/Moon can be very hard on the Sun and Moon any way. Those are strong themes that you can't ignore.

It is a transneptunian dwarf planet
It is in the same classification as Pluto.

If it was Pluto so closely conjunct the Sun and Moon instead, I am very sure there would be "Yes..Pluto is conjunct my Sun and Moon.....Pluto conjunctions are no joke...they are tough !"

well....that could work with any of the transneptunian dwarf planets,dwarf planet candidates

You're lucky that you don't have Sedna conjunct the Sun-Moon conjunction, Sedna is so other worldly, it can be very hard to handle. It makes Neptune look mundane.
We're talking about an object that has over 11,000 year orbit reflecting its highly metaphysical nature.

You wouldn't want Eris conjunct the Sun-Moon conjunction either. It makes Uranus look tame.

Ixion and Orcus are plutinos,and so their orbits are like Pluto. Like Pluto, it has 2:3 orbital resonance with Neptune. That means for every 3 times Neptune orbits the Sun, Pluto and the plutinos orbit twice. As a rule, plutinos are named mythological characters in the underworld.
Aspects to Ixion and Orcus are like aspects to Pluto.

oh another thing

with your rectified Ascendant now in 13'25 Pisces,
The Heliocentric Uranus Nodes in 13'51 Gemini/Sagittarius is now squaring your Ascendant/Descendant axis, and so there is a strong personal connection to collective matters involving things associated with Uranus like unpredictable, unstable,unconventional,innovative,independence
This would involve your persona and your relationships.

If your rectification is correct, then you should strong relate to the Uranian energy in connection to your Ascendant/Descendant axis.

I have my Ascendant/Descendant in 13'27 Virgo/Pisces, and so the heliocentric Uranus Nodes in 13'51 squares my Ascendant/Descendant axis.
I have a strong personal connection to collective Uranian matters that would involve my persona and relationships.

With your rectification, your Midheaven/Imum Coeli is in 20'37 Sagittarius/Gemini

Guess what's now on your Midheaven/Imum Coeli axis?

Geocentric North Makemake Node in 20'20 Gemini
Heliocentric Makemake Nodes in 19'10 Gemini/Sagittarius

You not only have Makemake conjunct your Sun and Moon. You even have its north geocentric node oppose/conjunct your Midheaven/Imum Coeli axis and its heliocentric nodes oppose your Midheaven/Imum Coeli axis
You have strong personal connection to the collective Makemake energy

Your Ceres is in 20'14 Virgo, and that's square your Midheaven/Imum Coeli axis. That's a square of only 13 minutes of arc. With a diameter of over 900 km, Ceres is no mere asteroid.
It's a dwarf planet, and so it has the same astronomical classification rank as Pluto, Makemake, Haumea,and Eris. After it was discovered in 1801, Ceres was classed as a planet for over 40 years, and then it got stripped of its planetary status. Therefore, it was classed as a planet before Pluto was.
Now Ceres is Pluto's equal because of Eris' discovery which led to Ceres' promotion and Pluto's demotion. Eris, being the planet of not only discord and controversy but also equality. Eris' orbit is Persephone/Proserpina-like. Half of its orbital period is near Pluto, and the other half is far away from Pluto.
Astronomer and Eris discoverer, Dr. Michael Brown pointed that out. Therefore, he thought Persephone or Proserpina would be a suitable name for Eris, but the names were already given to asteroids. In mythology, Persephone/Proserpina split equal time with Hades/Pluto and Demeter/Ceres. Now thanks to the discovery of Eris, Pluto and Ceres are equal to each other as dwarf planets. Eris has Proserpina/Persephone themes too and not just Eristic themes. The orbit,astronomical features should always be considered and not just the name mythology. You have Eris trine your Sun-Moon-Makemake conjunction, and so the Eris theme is strong in your life.

Ceres was named after the Roman Goddess of the Harvest. It is associated with matters involving nurturing,mother,letting go,separations,empty nest,reproduction too.

Ceres is no joke. That very close square to your Midheaven/Imum Coeli can be very challenging. Your Saturn in 18'02 is squaring it, and so Ceres' nurturing,earth mother energies are challenged by limiting,restricting energy of Saturn. As you know, Saturn is one of the planets that astrologers associate with the father. That would mean that matters involving the father could involve letting go,separations (Ceres).
That Saturn square Ceres is prominent with it being angular in your chart.

Guess what else you have aspecting your Midheaven/Imum Coeli axis?

Heliocentric Ceres Nodes in 20'42 Gemini/Sagittarius. They are in opposition to your Midheaven/Imum Coeli axis with only 5 minutes of arc.
It is squaring your Ceres with 28 minutes of arc. Therefore the personal nurturing,earth mother energies of Ceres are in strong hard connections to the collective nurturing earth mother energies of Ceres Nodes. With the aspects to the Midheaven/Imum Coeli, the Ceres square Heliocentric Nodes is strongly personalized.

If your rectified birthtime is correct, then you should be able to strong relate to the energies of Ceres and Makemake in connection to your Midheaven/Imum Coeli axis.

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posted January 30, 2011 12:35 AM            

Check what Alison Chester Lambert wrote about Ceres:

But Ceres Isn’t in the Kuiper Belt

An article about the dwarf planets isn’t just about the Kuiper Belt, it is also about Ceres and now her bridge(4) is not just between the personal planets (Sun, Venus, Mercury, Moon, Mars) and the inter-personal planets (Jupiter, Saturn). It is also between the personal planets (as in one human life and soul) and the Kuiper Belt, which represents the hidden dimensions of origin and the Underworld of myth.

One of the most stunning revelations about Ceres since her promotion was a report in New Scientist, suggesting that the dwarf planets Pluto and Ceres are comprised of similar, special material and were once one. It says “The dwarf planet Ceres…..may have been born in the same realm as Pluto, but traveled all the way to the asteroid belt."(5) In myth, Proserpine, daughter and emanation of Ceres does indeed share the Underworld with Pluto as his queen, before returning to the Upperworld.

Isis, Ceres’s Egyptian predecessor, helped souls travel to the other realms and return with incredible knowledge of many spiritual things. According to Dr Paul Brunton,(6) the high priests of the temples were adept at taking the body into a cataleptic state from whence the soul could travel into the other dimensions. They learnt that there was no death, but merely a transformation into higher states of consciousness and after initiation they feared death no more.

Ceres’s position, so much closer to Earth, symbolises her protectiveness and loyalty to the human race, which was very obvious in the transits of Aug/Sept 2007. Sedna (symbolises hurricanes, rain) was in a 2 year long square with Neptune and it rained…….a lot! Vast areas of England were flooded and the crops were rotting in the fields. The news reports were dire and there was no hope. Then planet Ceres moved in front of Sedna and a miracle happened. The rain stopped, the Sun came out and a few days later the farmers brought the harvest home.

She is known as a grain goddess but she is as much about the care of the human seed from embryo to child, to maiden, to mother, as she is about the care the farmer gives to the corn seed as it emerges from the dark, soil underworld to become a seedling, ripen, be harvested and then returned to the underground grain silos to await planting again. She is there in death, loss and grieving, but she also emerges with us in birth, fecundity and growth again.

Ceres’s promotion to dwarf planet not only indicates a huge rise in matriarchal, goddess energy. She is a source of close-to-home, familiar, protective comfort and provides a stern reminder to honor planet Earth and the cycles of the seasons.

http://www.midlandsschoolofastrology.co.uk/introduction_to_dwarf_planets_for_astr ologers.html

I always thought Ceres was underrated. I always thought Pluto was overrated. At least the astronomers realized that Ceres was underrated and Pluto was overrated. Now they are equals in Astronomy as dwarf planets because of Eris' discovery.

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posted January 30, 2011 12:42 AM            

Uranus' Nodes are located at 13 degrees 51' 31.3" of GEMINI and SAGITTARIUS in the Zodiac.

Uranus' Nodes are very significant aspects in a natal Horoscope. Conjunctions to Uranus' Nodes impart individuality, inventiveness and an eccentric personality to these natives. Many of these natives would seem Aquarian if a trained Astrologer were viewing their actions and habits.

Squares to Uranus' Nodes have been found to create explosive element in a natives personality.
http://aaarf.net/uranusnode.htm

The following is from Carl Payne Tobey:

In opening a discussion of the interpretation of planetary aspects, it is necessary to introduce the planetary nodes. The majority of the astrologers of the early part of the twentieth century have ignored these nodes, although they were very important to the ancients, as is indicated by the terms "Dragon's Head and Dragon's Tail applied to the north or ascending node and the south or descending node of the Moon. Today we call them the lunar nodes.

It is quite easy to understand why they are ignored when we realize that these astrologers were trying to bridge the gap to what was fashionable in the world of so-called science. They were trying to adjust to the environment They were trying to fit their subject into the errors of scientific style. Like so many other things, scientific theories and hypotheses come and go, live for a day and die. At that time, it was popular to think in terms of the ether of Sir Oliver Lodge, in terms of vibrations and waves. So astrologers had to explain their subject in terms of ether, vibrations and waves. It was pointed out that when light reached the place or point of a planetary node, there was nothing there for light to bounce against, and so light went right on. How could a mathematical point have an effect? And so the nodes were forgotten and ignored.

Grant Lewi placed great emphasis on the nodes. Statistics of RCA Communications, Inc., in connection with their research dealing with the correspondence that exists between planetary motion and magnetic disturbances that interfere with shortwave radio reception, placed emphasis on the nodes. Letters from two astrologers unknown to each other asked us the same question. Did we know why people born with the Sun near 13-Gemini or 13-Sagittarius seemed to have so much difficulty in making marriage a success? Of course, this meant success according to orthodox standards which are quite inadequate, but it was interesting to note that each astrologer had unconsciously called the exact position of the nodes of the planet Uranus (Individual Reform Guide and Seventh House principle). Marriage is difficult where this principle is concerned because marriage is a Man-made inst;itution that was molded in ignorance of this principle. When he wrote the Ten Commandments General Moses had his intellectual limitations.

Our own statistical investigations gradually led to indications that mere mathematical points (we will supplement this term later), the planetary nodes, are more important than the planets themselves, and this was the beginning of our realization that an entirely new conception of astrology was essential, an astrology unlimited and unhampered by the dogma of modern scientific hypotheses. When you deal with mathematical points, mathematical lines and mathematical planes which can have no material counterpart, you are in the realms of mathematics and abstraction. A mathematical point has no dimensions. A mathematical line has but one dimension. A mathematical plane has but two dimensions. There is no material counterpart until you reach three dimensions, and when you go on to a fourth dimension, you again have no material counterpart. You have again entered the world of abstraction.

You can use a pencil to illustrate a mathematical line, but it is inaccurate, because a pencil line has width and therefore two dimensions. You can use a sheet of paper to illustrate a plane, but it is inaccurate because the paper has thickness and is three dimensional.

We were approachIng our later view that astrology could not be a causal phenomenon; but must be considered as a matter of mathematical expression. We cannot exp1ain why snowflakes and crystals follow the same pattern that bees follow when building the cells of their hives (the hexagon) except to say that the whole thing is a matter of abstract mathematical expression. Although the hexagon is the most economical means of building these cells, we can hardly visualize each hive of bees employing intellectual bees who labor over a drawing board computing the mathematics of what shaped room would require the least wall space to house the greatest content. Neither can we say that snowflakes cause bees to build six-sided cells. Nor can we say that snowflakes freeze in six-sided fashion because they are copying the bees. Yet a hexagon room enclosed by 60 feet of wall will contain over 259 square feet of floor area, while a square room enclosed by the same amount of wall will contain but 225 square feet of floor space. A room shaped as an equilateral triangle with 60 feet of wall will contain only 141 square feet of area. Of course, a circular room would contain a greater ratio of area to enclosure, but you can't fit circular rooms together. The more equal sides a room has, the greater the floor area, but if a room has more than six sides, you can't fit the rooms together. Among polygons of equal sides you can fit together only hexagons, squares and triangles.

Mathematically, the bee would appear further advanced than Man. He builds warehouses out of hexagonal shaped rooms while Man builds warehouses out of square or rectangular rooms. We find a strange parallel in the fact that the ancient astrologers regarded planetary aspects based on parts of hexagons as harmonious and aspects based on parts of squares as discordant. The sextile aspect is merely one side of a hexagon, while a trine aspect is one side of an equilateral triangle or two sides of a hexagon. An opposition aspect can be considered as either two squares or three sides of a hexagon, and oddly, astrologers have disagreed as to whether the opposition aspect is harmonious or discordant. It has been our experience that the aspect brings tension, problems and worries while forming, but produces CHANGE that solves the problems and gives re-lief while separating. If there is any astrological symbolism behind the six-pointed star of the Jewish church and the four-point cross of the Christian church, then one would appear to Indicate harmony and the other discord. Yet, the advanced astrologer realizes that the l, 10, 7, 4 House Cross (Leo, Scorpio, Aquarius, Taurus) is something that can be transcended through understanding and higher knowledge or wisdom, while those astrologers who look upon the story of Christ as symbolism see Christ, not as a man but as an abstract principle. To them, it is the rise of the individual above materialism and into the abstract realms. Whether Christ ever lived as a man is beside the point. The principle is the same.

Just as astrology is concerned with geometrical and therefore mathmatical figures, we find these figures throughout the mineral world. Different minerals are made up of crystals of different geometrical patterns. Not all minerals follow the hexagonal pattern. Salt crystals form the square or 90-degree angle. This is true of other minerals, but the hexagonal pattern is quite common. The crystal mines of Arkansas seem to show everything in accord with the hexagonal prinqiple. Where erosion had washed away a patch of a lava bed at the floor of the Grand Canyon, we found petrifted wood covered by hexagonal crystals. At the Spring Creek Ranch in the Texas Panhandle are found strange objects composed of calcite an inch thick and two inches in diameter that are in the form of a perfect hexagon. They are said to be a hang over from the Triassic Age, which was the earliest period of the Mesozoic Era. By careful selection,you could pave a bathroom floor with these strange objects, but most of them have other hexagons growing out of them at various angles. A geode is a strange object of nature that looks like an egg and is shaped like an egg. Their is a location near Mammouth Arizona, where these eggs lying on top of the ground in quantity over an area of ten or more square miles. These are agate geodes. They are white on the outside like an egg. Originally, they appear to have been mere shells, but from the inner surface grow crystals until the object finally becomes a solid. A hollow ultimately becomes a solid. Where does the material come from? Or does material need to come from some place? When it is ready to appear it seems to appear. Astronomers are trying to learn how matter appears or forms in space. How does it appear or form in the hollow of these geodes?

An astrological aspect is merely an abstract geometrical measurement. True, it is sometimes a measurement between two material objects, but this need not be true. It can be a measurement between a planet and a mathematical point, or a measurement between two mathematical points where there is nothing whatsoever of a material nature. It can still have its counterpart in human affairs.

Because the planetary nodes are even more important than the planets tnemselves, it is important that you understand what a planetary node is. Remember that we used imaginary embroidery hoops to illustrate two planes of space. Put one hoop inside the other, twist one so that one hoop crosses the other at two points. Look at the hoops from above that point where they cross and you see an X. The point where the two hoops cross is the node. The other point where they cross is also a node. It is customary to call one point the north node, the other point the south node.

What we call the north node of a planet is that point where the orbit of a planet crosses the plane of the earth's orbit as the planet goes north. The south node is the other point, and when the planet crosses the south node, it is traveling southerly.

Actually, no planet ever crosses the earth's orbit. It crosses the plane of the earth's orbit, Therefore it is not strictly true to consider these factors as mathematical points. When referring to a node, an astronomer means that mathematical point where the plane of a planet cuts the earth's orbit, but we could as well consIder the node that mathematical point where the plane of the earth's orbit cuts the planetary orbit. These two points would not be the same in space. One would be at the orbit of the earth while the other would be at the orbit of the planet. However, if we draw a straight line from the Sun to the mathematical point that is furthest away from the Sun, it would of necessity have to pass through the other mathematical point. Thus, the important factor with which we deal becomes not a mathematical point, but a mathematical line drawn from the Sun in opposite directions to infinity. The plane of the earth's orbit and the plane of the planetary orbit join all the way along the line.

As computed today, the planetary nodes are considered as heliocentric, those points where the above described line crosses the earth's orbit. However, if we use these points as if they were geocentric, they appear to work. This is easy to understand if we consicer that we are dealing with mathematical lines instead of mathematical points. Now, we can draw a new set of lines with the earth as the center to those points where the line above described reaches infinity and their direction must be exactly the same as the direction from the Sun. Such a conception justifies us in using the planetary nodes in our zodiac just as they are given in heliocentric longitude.

This view might also completely justify Hugh MacCraig and others who are employing heliocentric positions in the earth zodiac.

We know from experience that when the nodes are employed in this fashion they function. We do not know whether they will also function when located by Iines from the earth as a center to those points where the nodal line crosses the earth's orbit, for these points have never been calculated and published. A student well schooled in mathematics is now calculating these positions, however, and we hope it will ultimately be possible to publish them for experimental purposes.

It becomes vital to know the zodiacal position of the planetary nodes. The position of the north lunar node is given in the ephemeris. The south lunar node will be at the opposite zodiacal point. The Sun is not involved in this calculation, because the Moon goes around the earth. The point where the two orbits cross is itself in motion, and it circumvents the entire circle of the zodiac in 19 years.

The planetary nodes have a similar motion, but it is too slow to be significant within a lifetime. The nodes of Mercury circle the zodiac once in something over 171,000 years, while the nodes of Uranus make the trip in about 40,000 years. Oddly, the nodes of some of the outer planets appear to move more rapidly than those of the inner planets. In any event, however, no planetary node moves a degree within 100 years, so you can use the present nodal positions as close enough for any living being. Present north nodal positions are as follows:

MERCURY 17 TAURUS

VENUS 16 GEMINI

MARS 19 TAURUS

JUPITER 9 CANCER

SATURN 23 CANCER

URANUS 13 GEMINI

NEPTUNE 11 LEO

PLUTO 19 CANCER

Planets aspecting these points, or even the lunar nodes aspecting these points, have significance. To have a body conjunct or square the node of a planet appears to be more important than to have it conjunct the planet itself. The node of Mars will show up strongly where violence and surgery is involved. In fact, we have found but one case of a hysterectomy to date where the woman did not have a planet (any planet) conjunct or square to Mars' nodes That one case had Mars conjunct the node of Saturn. During a class, a protest against this statement was introduced by the wife of a physician. As a result, all the students were requested to accumulate all the cases of hysterectomies they could find, and try and locate a case where this was not true. Many birth dates involving hyster- ectomies were produced. There was no case among them where some natal planet was not conjunct or square the nodes of Mars. That does not mean there are no such cases, and you might find one, but when you do, please send it to us. In fact, it will be very helpful to our research department if you will send in the birth dates ofall the people you know who have found hysterectomies necessary. The data will be very welcome.

Planets conjunct or square the nodes of Saturn have a depressive correspondence, while planets conjunct or square the nodes of Uranus have a very restless and rebellious spirit. The functioning seems to be similar to aspects of the planets themselves but more pronounced.

The north node of a planet is also called the ascending node, while the south node is called the descending node. No one has yet prepared symbols for the planetary nodes, and if we invented symbols and placed them in each horoscope, the charts would become rather crowded, but you can compare them with each chart you draw. You don't have to worry or be concerned about their motion, except for the lunar nodes which are given in your ephemeris. Another experience was important in our dropping any conception of astrology as a causal phenomenon. The ancients placed great emphasis on the occurrence of mportant events at the time of an eclipse of the Sun or Moon, and having observed many world shaking events that occurred near the time of an eclipse, we set out to investigate this statistically. We found many events that occurred near the time of an eclipse, but we also found many important events that occurred at other times. Eclipses can occur only when the Sun is conjunct or within about 15 degrees of a lunar node.

Our statistical investigations showed that most of the important world events which occurred when there was no eclipse took place when the Sun was square the lunar nodes. Thus, it would appear to have nothing to do with the eclipses, because there can be no eclipse when the Sun is squre the lunar nodes, but the results are the same.

Statistics also show that loss-of-life through fire increases when the Sun or Uranus is conjunct or square the lunar nodes. Yet, there is no increase in the number of fires during these periods. Our investigation included all the fires in the U.S. and Canada where the material loss was over $100,000, over an eight year period. The data were furnjshed by the National Fire Protection Association which publishes all such data for insurance companies. Nearly all the "famous" fires took place when the Sun or Uranus was conjunct or square the lunar nodes, but "famous" fires are those where loss-of-life is heavy.

It is our considered view that what is here involved is human instability. Human instability reaches its maximum when the Sun and lunar nodes are 0 and 90 degrees apart, its minimum when they are 45 or 135 degrees apart. At the maximum, people panic more easily. A very great ratio of loss-of-life through fire takes place during the night among people who are sleeping in strange surroundings as in a hotel. If they awaken in strange surroundings during an unstable period to find the building on fire, they seem to know what to do. They think clearly. But if the same thing happens during an unstable period, they are confused and they panic bringmg about their own deaths. Hotel fires which occurred during stable periods have seldom involved loss-of-life, but hotel fires occurring during the unstable intervals have resulted in very heavy loss-of-life.

At other times, people seem able to relax and maintain calmness, not all people, the majority, but during these unstable periods, people feel something has to be done about something right away. The result is that not only most wars have begun at such times, but most peace treaties have been signed at such times. Many men of great genius are born at these times.

Watch Congress! Its members can argue for months, but let one of these periods come along and they pass bills fast and furiously. If an election happens to be held at such a time, the result always seems to be the opposite of what people expect it to be. Any student who is interested in history will find it very interesting to see how world events have always coincided with these intervals of instability. Modern man knows nothing about such cycles, but the ancients were conscious of them. The ancient Chinese executed two astrologers because they were lax in their duty and failed to predict an eclipse. The ancients paid great attention to eclipses, but we have no evidence that they knew about the 90-degree angle of instability as well.

We suggest the possibility that heart attacks are more frequent at those times when we are at the apex of human instability. No statistical work has been accomplished in this direction, but newspapers often carry the news of the death or heart attacks of prominent persons at these times. Both of President Eisenhower's attacks came at such times.

From somewhere has come the tradition that for a planet to be conjunct the north node is favorable while a planet conjunct the south node is unfavorable. Over the years, we have been unable to find one iota of confirmation for this conception. We have been unable to find any evidence that the two nodes differ in any way. The results appear to be exactly the same.

The important turns during war time seem to accompany these points of instability. An inspection of history will verify this.

We must not lose sight of the fact that the zodiacal signs themselves and the astrological houses are based on nothing but mathematcal points. They are purely abstract. They are based on nodes, the crossing of planes. The zodiac is determined by the nodes where the plane of the earth's orbit and that of the earth's equator cross. The astrological houses are based on the nodes where the plane of the earth's orbit and that of the horizon cross. Theso two nodes are the ascendent and the descendent of the horoscope. In our procedure, we place the other house cusps at equal 30-degree intervals in the plane of the earth's orbit.

In interpreting planetary aspects, it is well to first see how the planets are situated in their relation to the nodes. You should check each planet in its relation to each node. After that, you should check each planet in its relation to every other planet. Do not limit your inspection to the 0 and 90 degree aspects to the nodes. Pay attention to the 60 and 120 degree aspects (sextile and trine) also. These appear to be very helpful.
http://mysite.verizon.net/bonniehill/pages.aux/astrology/tobey/tobey.14.html

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posted January 30, 2011 02:37 AM            

This is what Douglas Bloch and Demetra George wrote in regards to Ceres in their book,ASTROLOGY FOR YOURSELF. I got this book in 1999, and that's when I got into asteroids.

page 228

Ceres

Relates to Cancer,Virgo,and Taurus-Scorpio

keyphrase: My capacity unconditionally love and nurture myself and others.

Ceres Themes

1. Cancer: giving and receiving nurturing;all kinds of family relationships--parents and children; providing and caring for others; self acceptance and self-worth.

2. Taurus-Scorpio: attachment and letting go, loss and return, capacity for grief and sorrow,rejection,abandonment,separation,principle of sharing,death and renewal cycles.

3. Virgo: productivity,growth,self-reliance,work.

Ceres Rulerships:

1. Procreation: procreative sexuality,childbirth,miscarriage,abortion,menarche and menopause, death and dying,children,all kinds of parenting relationships.

2. Nourishment: nurturing and helping vocations; nursing, social-service, food-related illnesses,agriculture and growing, cultivation of land and plants,harvest.

3. Productivity: labor,work,ecology,domestication,animals,adaptation and survival.

Ceres Keywords:
nurturing,mothering,growing,caring for,sustaining,fertile,productive,nourishing,powerful,concerned,civilizing,domesticating,providing,feeding,nature,insecure,controlling,overprotecting,smothering,self-rejecting,reje cting self,rejecting others self-hating,critical,judgmental,fearful,self-hate,dependent,destructive,clinging,ferocious,tenacious,grasping,hungry,barren,deprived,neglected,abandoned.

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posted January 30, 2011 04:10 AM            

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Originally posted by Lioness:
I havent read all this YET... But before I do. I have a question..

What do you mean by planetary Nodes? Im missing something..

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planetary nodes
the nodes of the planets

all objects have nodes
not just the moon

nodes are the intersection of orbital planes of 2 objects

all that is explained on the post of the planetary nodes article

here is another article on planetary nodes:

Dane Rudhyar

Planetary Nodes

The nodes of a planet are two opposite points where the plane of the orbit of the planet intersects the ecliptic. As the ecliptic is not only the apparent path described by the Sun on the celes­tial sphere (i.e., among the constellations), but "a plane through the center of the Sun through which the average orbit of the Earth lies," it follows that the planetary nodes represent the points where the line of intersection of the plane of a planet's orbit and the plane of the Earth's orbit meet the celestial sphere (i.e., the "dome of the skies"). The Sun is naturally at the midpoint of this line of intersection.

What is involved, therefore, in the idea of nodes is a type of relationship existing between the planes of the planetary orbits and the plane of the Earth's orbit. The sizes of the various angles of inclinations of the planets' orbits to the ecliptic might be taken as representations of these orbital relationships; but this would give us only numerical values as symbols - which could fit into a system of astro-numerical symbolism, but not into astrology; for all measurements of astrological relationship must always be referred to the factor of zodiacal position. The line of planetary nodes ends in two points on the celestial sphere which have zodiacal longitude; thus these points are taken as symbols of the relationship between the orbits of planet and Earth.

The reason why the orbits of planets are considered important is that, with the orbit, we are dealing with values of motion. The plane of an orbit is the plane of periodical motion. And, as we saw already, all true astrological factors can be abstracted into factors of motion. Astrology is an algebra using cyclic motions as its symbols. (Cf. the chapter: "The Key to Astrological Symbolism") Thus the planes of orbital motions can indeed be considered as significant, the significance being revealed to us by the zodiacal position of their line of intersection.

The orbit of a planet represents the total cycle of dynamic activity of this planet in relation to the Sun. The Sun stands there as the integrator of the whole system, that which holds it together and represents its ultimate total significance. The planet, of itself, symbolizes a particular and to some extent independent mode of life-activity. But its orbit is a representation of this characteristic activity, not as a thing in itself, but rather in relation to the Sun. The orbit signifies therefore the integrative aspect of the planetary activity, viz., this activity as it operates definitely within the organic whole and for the fulfillment of the central aim of integration of personality.

What the relationship of the planet's orbit to the Earth's orbit will indicate is the part which the life-activity represented by the planet occupies, at any time, in the scheme of development of Earth-born mankind. If Uranus symbolizes the regenerative force which tends to bring to humanity as a whole universal images that will supersede the Saturnian stereotyped formula of separative egoism, then the nodes of Uranus will tell us the manner in which this regenerative force is operating at present. The indication given will be broad, and it covers a large span of years or centuries, for the planetary nodes move very slowly along the zodiac, seemingly with alternately direct and retrograde motion. At present, Uranus' line of nodes extends from Gemini 13°40' to Sagittarius 13°40'; and what it thus stresses is the fact that the regenerative force of Uranus is operating, and has been operating for centuries, through the mind of man.

A closer analysis of the nodes' meaning will attribute opposite and complementary significances to the two terminals of the lines of nodes, the North Node and the South Node. This nodal dualism is logical, for every type of life-activity in relation to the center of integration of the organic system may take on a positive or a negative value. Integration and disintegration go ever hand in hand. Every life-element can operate as a destructive or as a constructive agency, such being the universal law of life.

The North Node is the positive pole of integration; the South Node the negative pole where disintegration of some sort (it may not be "evil," however) takes place. The former is a point of ingestion and assimilation; the latter, a point of release and evacuation. We shall study this polarization of life- activities in greater detail when we shall consider the Moon's nodes. In the meantime these brief remarks will suffice to indicate the general opposition of meanings manifest in the two nodes.

If, therefore, we refer again to the present position of Uranus' nodes, we shall see that its North Node, being in the fourteenth degree of Gemini, signifies that positive regeneration comes to mankind at present by the use of the concrete intellect, and through the establishment of spatial connections - which are two of the essential characteristics of Gemini; also that there is an integrative Uranian emphasis on the development of the nervous system, of postal communications, etc.

On the other hand, the Sagittarian qualities of religious idealism, of obedience to authority, etc. - even of metaphysical abstractedness - are seen as negative from the point of view of the planetary Uranus action. They constitute the "line of least resistance;" they result largely from past habits of integration, and thus constitute most often "mechanisms of escape," from the psychological standpoint. Nevertheless powerfully creative and Uranian releases may come along Sagittarian lines through individuals who act as the culmination of traditional impulses to activity, as the "last word" in a realm of achievement which, having been thoroughly developed for millennia, may have nothing compellingly vital to offer - yet is able to produce absolute formal perfection.

The symbol for the present degree position of Uranus' North Node is: "Two people, widely separated, are communicating telepathically." (1) This is most significant, if we are to believe the statement often repeated in Alice Bailey's books that the development of the telepathic faculty is the most important task now confronting the spiritual pioneers of the race. On the other hand, Uranus' South Node is on a degree symbolized by: "The Sphynx and the Pyramids are glorious vestiges of the past" - which em­phasizes the fact that now all the glorious past of mankind is being synthesized, recorded, brought to a culmination through many types of human activities - from archaeology to occult metaphysics. Yet this suggests also that dependence upon these past glories, national or religious, is most often the result of shrinking from the task of the future, and is a form of escape based on fear.

The following table gives the zodiacal positions of the planets' nodes for 1935. The yearly variation is in every case less than a minute.

North Nodes South Nodes

Mercury Taurus 17° 33' Scorpio 17° 33'

Mars " 19° 3' " 19° 3'

Uranus Gemini 13° 40' Sagittarius 13° 40'

Venus " 16° 5' " 16° 5'

Jupiter Cancer 9° 47 ' Capricorn 9° 47'

Pluto " 19° 25' " 19° 25'

Saturn " 23° 5' " 23° 5'

Neptune Leo 11° 3' Aquarius 11° 3'

The way the nodes are distributed in the zodiac at present is most interesting, for they cover an area of less than 90 degrees North or South - in fact 84 degrees, which recalls the Uranus cycle and that of the "building of the Temple." It is especially interesting to see that the summer solstice is at present almost exactly at the center of the configuration. This solstice is the time of most intense solar manifestation (in Chinese philosophy, domination of the active principle Yang); while the winter solstice is the point of lowest solar vitality (domination of the passive principle Yin). The positions of the combined planetary nodes are thus correspondent with points of solar dynamism exactly analogical. This would tend to show that the integrative power of the solar system as a whole upon the Earth is at its apex now (or close to it); for the maximum of integrative activity of the planets is, as it were, synchronous with the maximum of activity of the Sun, the integrator. A study of the symbols of the degrees on which the planetary nodes are found, as outlined in our preceding example (Uranus), will be of deep interest to the student of contemporary planetary trends.

To the foregoing we must add that as planets, in their monthly or daily course, reach the degrees of the zodiac on which their nodes are located, a definite stressing of their positive or negative characteristics is apparent. When planets pass their North Node they operate positively, actively; while at their South Node point they are receptive and passive - that is, the quality or function they signify operates in a passive (yet strong) manner. In an individual chart, a planet situated over its North Node is very domi­nant psychologically; It’s effect is stirring up the consciousness, in the sense that all the integrating life-energy received by the native has a tendency to relate itself to the particular quality expressed by the planet. On the other hand, a planet situated over its South Node may refer to a definite type of psychological escape. The native may tend to evade the issue represented by the planet, or else to be passive and "let things happen" in the sphere of activity which the planet denotes.

A very definite result is also usually to be noticed (more definite probably in the more developed type of personality) when important planets in a chart are located on degrees which are the nodal points of other planets. The characteristics of the latter undertone as it were the activities of the former. The late King George V of England, for instance, had his Sun over Uranus' North Node. Undoubtedly his reign has been full of Uranian happenings. Franklin D. Roosevelt's chart is also characteristic in this respect. His Jupiter is on Mercury's North Node, and Uranus' North Node corresponds to his Mid-Heaven. Moreover his Sun is on Neptune's South Node. If Neptune represents the power of collectivities, Neptune's South Node would symbolize that power disintegrated and left to follow the line of least resis­tance. Roosevelt's Sun would then shine in the midst of such a condition, and add solar power to the Neptunian element. His own Neptune placed between Saturn and Jupiter (closer to the latter) is symbolically between, on one hand, darkness and Saturnian "rugged individualism" (to be regenerated, as it is in the eighth house), on the other, Jupiter and the power of expansion and circulation of energy.

An even stronger effect can be expected where the line of nodes of a planet coincides with the horizon or the meridian in a birth­chart; or even with the line of the cusps of two opposite houses. In these cases the quality of the planet is strongly, yet subtly, influencing all the matters related to the two opposite (and complementary) houses. http://mindfire.ca/The%20Astrology%20of%20Personality/Chapter%20Nine%2 0-%20Planetary%20Interweavings.htm

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A different mind is NOT a deficient mind.

posted January 30, 2011 04:13 AM            

Dane Rudhyar

Astrology is essentially a study of the ever-changing relationship between man and his cosmic environment - a study which seeks not only to discover facts concerning this environment (this is the task of the astronomer), but to uncover the meaning these facts have in terms of his individual or collective life, his basic character and the unfoldment of his innate potential of being.

The nearest factor in this cosmic environment are the planets - including in the term, planets, for present-day astrological purposes, the Moon and the Sun. These planets move each at a different speed, and their motions are periodical. Astrology today is basically the study of these cyclic motions. And in order to pursue such a study, the motions of the planets are plotted on a background considered to be fixed. There are two backgrounds, or "frames of reference," in generalized use today: the zodiac, and the circle of the Houses based on the horizontal and vertical axes at the point of astrological enquiry.

A good deal of the ambiguity found in astrological concepts and practices is due to the fact that the astrologer today is thinking in both heliocentric and geocentric terms. He knows that our Earth is only one among several planets which revolve around the Sun, yet he also logically considers the whole solar system and the stars beyond as the environment of the Earth on the surface of which man lives, feels and thinks; thus in studying his relationship to this environment he has obviously to take a geocentric - and in natal astrology, a "person-centered" - point of view. He studies his own cosmic environment, as he relates to it directly.

Nevertheless man cannot ignore the fact that the solar system is a cosmic whole, that is, a more or less autonomous field of energies streaming from the central Sun. This field is only one among billions of other stellar fields which are parts of the vast galaxy, our Milky Way; and therefore the solar system as a whole obviously is affected by "galactic forces" and by the result of the interactions of a myriad of stars and solar systems. However, we know very little indeed that is specific concerning the galaxy and its stars, and at least at his present stage of evolution, the active and relevant part of man's cosmic environment is the solar system. Man looks at this solar system from his earthly point of view, yet he now knows that it is a specific field of energies; and in order to try to understand the basic character of these energies and their essential meaning, he has to think of the system-as-a-whole - this means heliocentrically, for any organized system of interrelated parts can only be understood in relation to its center or radiating core.

The structure of the solar system results from the interrelationships between not merely the places occupied by planets at any time, but more basically from the interrelationships between the orbit of the planets. Seen from the Sun, all planets describe elliptical orbits. These orbits are well spaced around the Sun. They constitute a series of more or less concentric rings, no planet ever moving as close to the Sun as the one preceding it in the series, except Pluto which about every 240 years comes closer to the Sun than Neptune, because of its exceptionally elongated orbit. However, the planes of these orbits do not coincide. All planets do not revolve around the Sun in the same plane. All these orbital planes intersect. The line formed by these intersections is called the line of the nodes, or nodal axis.

From the heliocentric astrological point of view each planet should be given a meaning in terms of its distance from the Sun. Indeed if we try to get at the fundamental meanings of the planets we can readily see that these meanings refer to their serial rank in the solar system. The series of planets represent a series of phases in a definite process which deals with the progressive differentiation of the solar force. Mercury represents bipolar electric energy; Venus adds to this electric force magnetism and refers thus to electro­magnetic fields. The Earth gives substantiality and biological properties to these fields. Mars refers to the release of energy from all organic systems, etc. (For such a study of the solar system, I must refer the reader to my book THE PRACTICE OF ASTROLOGY, Penguin Books, page 56, etc.)

In other words, each planet represents, as it were, a cosmic "quality"; but obviously it is this quality as we, human beings on this Earth, are able to see it and understand its nature; for it may indeed be that there are in the solar system planets composed of a type of substance-energy which we cannot perceive and which even our radio telescopes cannot detect. We can only measure and interpret what is within the scope of our senses and intellect. Thus when we study the basic structure of the solar system, i.e., the orbits of the planets, it is logical to refer the orbital planes to our basic life-plane, which is our own orbit around the Sun, thus, in astronomical terms, the ecliptic. Astrologically speaking, this is the tropical zodiac, or zodiac of signs (NOT of constellations) which begins at the spring equinox, or point of celestial longitude 0°.

Celestial longitude, from 0° to 360°, is measured along the ecliptic, which astrologers divide into twelve signs, Aries, Taurus, Gemini, etc., each sign occupying 30 degrees of longitude. But there is also a factor called celestial latitude; and it is this factor which is basic when one deals with the relationships between the orbital planes of the planet and our own orbital plane, the ecliptic. Each planet's orbital plane and the ecliptic intersect: and the lines of nodes represent this intersection. There is a north node and a south node. A planet is at its north node when it is at latitude 00 and moving north of the ecliptic; at its south node when it crosses the ecliptic in latitude and going southward. There are two moments in the cycle in celestial latitude of a planet when it reaches its extreme positions north or south. For most planets these extremes of latitude are very close to the ecliptic, thus not more than 8 degrees; but Pluto can reach latitudes of nearly 18 degrees.

The orbits of the planets are not absolutely stable; their structural characteristics vary, but extremely slowly. Astronomers speak here of "secular variations." Changes in the obliquity and eccentricity of the planets' orbits are measured by tens of thousands of years. The longitude of the planetary nodes likewise varies, but less slowly. According to modern textbooks, they gain longitude at the rates mentioned below.

Longitudes Annual Progress

Mercury - Taurus 17° 42' 11" 42.6 seconds

Mars - Taurus 19 °8' 56" 27.7 seconds

Uranus - Gemini 13° 43' 30" 18.0 seconds

Venus - Gemini 16° 12' 9" 32.4 seconds

Jupiter - Cancer 9° 54' 47" 36.4 seconds

Pluto - Cancer 19° 35' 35" 48.8 seconds

Saturn - Cancer 23° 11' 38" 31.4 seconds

Neptune - Leo 11° 11' 43 39.5 seconds

Whether this rate of progress is constant may not be certain, as some old Hindu books give very different figures. At any rate, here are the positions of the north nodes of the planets as they were listed in the American Astrological Ephemeris for 1947. The positions of the south node is always the opposite point of the zodiac; thus Mercury's South Node was at Scorpio 17°42' 11" and is now about to reach Scorpio 18°.

It should be clear, however, that these are heliocentric positions. They refer to the inter­section of the orbital planes of a planet and of our Earth. This intersection and the nodes it produces symbolize the fundamental relationship between a planet and the Earth considered as two components in the solar system. The relationship has significance in terms of this solar system as vast cosmic field of dynamic existence. When therefore, we apply it to the chart of an individual human being it should be evident that what this relationship - and therefore the planetary north and south nodes - mean in that chart should be referred to the most basic factors in that individual person, i.e., factors that are inherent in the essential destiny of the individual. They are factors which; reach deeper than the natural bio-psychic functions which planets normally represent in a birth­chart - just because the planet as a moving small disc of light in the sky is something that the personal consciousness can normally perceive while the entire orbit of that planet is a cosmic fact which transcends sense-perception.

Astrology is a language which uses astronomical facts and celestial events as symbols of all­human and personal characteristics and bio­psychic developments. The more unusual or remote such astronomical events or the more cosmic or abstract the relationship between celestial bodies, the deeper or more transcendent the characteristics which they represent in the personality and the life-experiences of human beings. For instance, the Sun and the Moon's apparent revolutions through our sky are always with us, regularly perceptible and closely relatable to what is most evident in us, that is, our very existence as a living organism and our capacity to adapt to our immediate surroundings. But eclipses of the Sun or the Moon which are visible at the place where we live are relatively infrequent and quite startling phenomena; thus they refer also to unusual changes in our lives or very special traits of character, if such eclipses not only occurred at the time of our birth but were facts of human experience at this birth locality.

We shall see later on how this applies to the study of the planetary nodes in a person's birth­chart, but one more basic point should be stressed. The nodes constitute an axis; that is to say, the north or south node of planets - and likewise of the Moon - are never to be considered alone. The habit so many astrologers have of marking and considering only the Moon's north node in a chart does not make any sense. Both nodes form an unbreakable pair, just as do Ascendant and Descendant or Zenith and Nadir. Any characterization of the Ascendant which does not include an indissolubly related characterization of the Descendant is incomplete; yet this is what is most of the time done in actual practice and even in textbooks.

One should no more think of an Ascendant without a Descendant than of an electrical current without a positive and a negative pole. In a somewhat different yet related sense, there is no wind without a region of higher pressure and one of lower pressure. This same fact of polarity has to be considered also when we deal with astrological "Parts." The Part of Fortune relates the Moon and the Sun to the Ascendant; but it has also a polar opposite point which relates the Moon and the Sun to the Descendant - a point which I called in my book THE LUNATION CYCLE, the Point of Illumination. In our individualistic society what refers to the self is emphasized - and of course it is basic; but a person's capacity for relationship (the Descendant) is implied in his attitude toward himself (Ascendant). As a man sees himself, so does he relate to others; and the way he relates to others conditions the development of his experience of self. The same situation exists if we consider the two "ends" of any axis. The two nodes are not separate points each with its individual meaning; they are the two polar aspects of one single process. What should be studied and understood is, first of all, the process.

In the case of planetary nodes, I repeat, what is at stake is the fundamental relationship of a planet and of our Earth as two related members of the solar system. More specifically, in terms of individual birth-charts, it is the manner in which the essential quality of a planet affects the very structure and the roots of our individual­ity as a member of the human species.

In the case of the Moon's nodes one is dealing with a rather different situation, because the Moon actually is not a planet, but instead the Earth's satellite. The axis of the Moon's nodes also represents the intersection between the planes of the Moon's orbit and the plane of the Earth's orbit (the ecliptic); but the Moon's orbit is directly related only to the Earth, and therefore the lunar nodes are "geocentric" factors, while the planetary nodes are "heliocentric" factors. To try to consider these planetary nodes from the geocentric point of view not only involves very complex calculations, but by so doing one loses the true character of the nodes, which is to indicate the basic relationship of the Earth to every other member of the solar system with reference to this system as a Sun-centered cosmic organism. The geocentric positions of the planetary nodes are never exactly opposite to each other; thus they lack the very fundamental characteristic of nodes.

The nodes belong to what I called "orbital astrology"; and this is a type of astrology which deals with the absolutely basic characteristics of the planets as members of the solar system, and with very large cycles dealing with the "secular variations" of the orbits: the orbits rather than the planets as material bodies. Indeed in philosophical traditions concerning the meaning of astrology it was stated that the fundamental reality of what we call a planet is not its material mass, but rather the space which its movements define.

In ancient geocentric astrology, the universe was pictured as a series of concentric spheres each having specific characteristics related to a planet. The moving planet was considered as a lens bringing to an ever changing focus the emanative energies diffuse through the sphere which it "ruled." Today instead of planetary "spheres" we have to think of planetary "orbits." These orbits are ellipses with two foci and the Sun is the common focus of all these orbits. We consider now the entire solar system to be an integrated field of forces. It is a cosmic organism; and the planets' orbits define several functional regions within this organism.

According to such a concept a moving planet represents an agency dynamizing or focusing by its motion the energies of a particular region of the solar field. Thus, Mercury is the space which surrounds the Sun up to the abstract dividing line marked by Mercury's orbit. Venus is the space that extends beyond Mercury's orbit and up to the boundaries indicated by Venus's orbit, etc. The planet's position at every moment of time indicates a point of focused release of energy. Every point of space is filled with potential energy; but this energy becomes actualized in the solar system through the planet's motion. The constantly changing relationship between these planets' motion produces, as it were, a dynamic picture formed by activity-centers. Where the planet is, a "lighted point" appears; and these lighted points form indeed a pattern, a form of light.

We have a similar situation in a T. V. screen which is composed of a multitude of points potentially susceptible of becoming lighted by the electric current. It is the lighted points which in their togetherness produce the picture seen on the screen. This T. V. picture changes at every moment, and so does in a much simpler way, the overall pattern of activity of the solar system. Each planet acting as a focusing channel for the release of a specific type of energies, or a quality of being which is related to the space of its entire orbit.

Of course, this space constantly changes, for the whole solar system is moving at high speed around the core of the galaxy; therefore, the planetary orbits actually extend into spiral-forms, but their relationship to and distance from the Sun does not vary and this is what matters. Each organic system in the universe follows very complex motions because it is a part of a series of greater systems, each of which also presumably revolves around some center; yet the various components of even the smallest system retain a basic structure of interrelationship. It is such basic structures that astrology seeks to understand; and it tries to understand not only how the structure works, but the meaning of this structure and of all that it relates together and organically integrates.

Before I conclude these general but basic observations, it seems important to return to the positions of the planetary nodes already listed in order to consider more attentively the fact that the nodes of all the eight planets are bunched around the summer and winter solstices. Mercury's north node is located today at close to 18° Taurus and that of Neptune at about Leo 11°23' ­ thus all north nodes are found within less than a square (90°), and so, of course, are the south nodes. The midpoint of the north nodes group is the last degree of Gemini, which interestingly enough is the location of the great star Betelgeuze in Orion; and I have often stated my belief that this star has a special relationship to the "Aquarian Age" which will start, according to my calculations, at about the time Betelgeuze will reach longitude 90°, that is, the summer solstice point in the tropical zodiac (cf. my book BIRTH PATTERNS FOR A NEW HUMANITY: A Study of Astrological Cycles Structuring the Present World Crisis - 1968).

It is difficult to be sure what such a bunching of planetary nodes means, but it must be significant because it is not a constant factor. Mercury's nodes move a little faster than Neptune's, and in about four centuries the nodes of Mercury and Mars will be conjunct in mid-Gemini, and also in conjunction with Uranus' nodes. Then the group will extend between the nodes of Uranus and Neptune. In about eight or nine centuries Neptune's north node will reach Libra 0°, the fall equinox point - and therefore its south node will be at the spring equinox point.

But let us consider what the situation is now. The summer solstice is a symbol of consciously individualized and stabilized power; Cancer refers to personal integration within a limited field of operation - a personality, a home. However, we must not forget that, at the summer solstice, while the Sun is entering the section of the Earth's orbit which we call Cancer, the planet Earth itself is at the opposite point, entering the sign Capricorn. These solstitial points of the Earth's orbit are particularly interesting for the reason which we shall now explain.

An ellipse has two foci; whereas a circle has only one center. All planetary orbits have one common focus, where the Sun is located; this is the great symbol of the life-force and of light. But the planetary orbits have also what I have called their "individualizing focus." This is the symbol of the particular function and individual "quality of being," which the whole planetary orbit symbolizes. A planet is closest to its individualizing focus when it is farthest from the Sun, thus at its "aphelion." For the Earth this point is close to the summer solstice point, when the Sun enters the zodiacal sign, Cancer and the Earth is entering the sign Capricorn.

In other words, our planet, in its orbital revolution, is closest to its individual focus when it is in the section of its orbit (the tropical zodiac) in which the south nodes of the planets are now gathered. As we shall presently see, the south node can be likened to the negative pole of an electrical system. It is a point of release, but what is released can be waste-materials, or at least the results of a highly particularized and individualized activity. At its south node the characteristic quality of a planet is almost forcibly thrown upon the Earth, while at its north node there is a much more positive and anabolic cooperation between the planet and the Earth.

The result of the present nodal gathering may therefore be related to the intense process of individualization which has gone on within mankind, and to man's specialization and stressful interest in "multiplicity" rather than in "unity" - in the many planets and their separate function rather than in the one Sun, source of light and undifferentiated power. The polarization should be particularly strong each year near the summer solstice when the Sun passes over the planetary north nodes, and the Earth over the planetary south nodes - at the very time our planet is close to the individualizing focus of its orbit. The presence of Betelgeuze then in conjunction with the Sun may tip the scales in favor of the Sun­force, and mankind may indeed move into an age illumined by a "unitive" type of consciousness. http://mindfire.ca/Person%20Centered%20Astrology/Chapter%20Eighteen%20-%20Orbital%20Astrology%20and%20the%20Nodes.htm

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A different mind is NOT a deficient mind.

posted January 30, 2011 02:32 PM            

Mercury - Taurus 17° 42' 11" 42.6 seconds

Mars - Taurus 19 °8' 56" 27.7 seconds

Uranus - Gemini 13° 43' 30" 18.0 seconds

Venus - Gemini 16° 12' 9" 32.4 seconds

Jupiter - Cancer 9° 54' 47" 36.4 seconds

Pluto - Cancer 19° 35' 35" 48.8 seconds

Saturn - Cancer 23° 11' 38" 31.4 seconds

Neptune - Leo 11° 11' 43 39.5 seconds
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Saturn Node is on my mean SN
Neptune Node conjuncts my Merc,Moon,Sun
Uranus/Venus Node sq my ASc
Venus Node conjuncts my Saturn
Uranus/Venus Node sextile my Leo stellium