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iQ
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posted February 24, 2011 01:36 PM
  
Dear LittleCloud,
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persephone33
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posted February 24, 2011 02:40 PM
Things are really heating up in Libya now. It was reported that 10k+ people are at the Tripoli airport trying to get out, Switzerland just froze Gaddafi's assets and the US just approved booting Libya from the UN Human Rights Council (although why Libya was on the council in the first place is beyond me!). It's getting close to 2/26!
Here's an article on Gaddafi himself. It seems his sun is conjunct the fixed star Rigel and his mars is conjunct Procyon.
http://darkstarastrology.com/muammar-al-gaddafi-horoscope-libyan-revolution-civil-war-2011/
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Cynnared
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posted February 24, 2011 04:38 PM
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Originally posted by littlecloud:
I'm really happy the people are rising up against the government that doesn't have it's people interest at heart. The U.S has meddled in other countries affairs for too long. It's about time they (the US gov't) got a reality check.
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Glaucus
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posted February 24, 2011 05:57 PM
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Originally posted by persephone33:
Things are really heating up in Libya now. It was reported that 10k+ people are at the Tripoli airport trying to get out, Switzerland just froze Gaddafi's assets and the US just approved booting Libya from the UN Human Rights Council (although why Libya was on the council in the first place is beyond me!). It's getting close to 2/26!
Here's an article on Gaddafi himself. It seems his sun is conjunct the fixed star Rigel and his mars is conjunct Procyon.
http://darkstarastrology.com/muammar-al-gaddafi-horoscope-libyan-revolution-civil-w ar-2011/
February 26th is when Sun will be in exact conjunct/opposition to the 2007 OR10 Snow White Nodes.
I already mentioned that 2007 OR10 is a scattered disk object with an orbital period of over 500 years like Eris. It's between the size of Sedna and Quaoar,and so it is a transneptunian dwarf planet candidate. After it gets a name, it will join the ranks of dwarf planets that include Pluto,Eris,Ceres,Makemake,and Haumea.
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iQ
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posted February 25, 2011 03:07 AM
Lot more has to be done. Gaddafi used to portray himself as a revolutionary or hero, turns out he is just another pathetic dictator. A new allegation has come out that he had a hand in the Lockerbie bombing, thus he can be tried as a Terrorist or War Criminal.His PhD son Seif wrote a thesis on civil rights and genuine democracy. Now he is calling for repression and indulging in murder of his own countrymen. It is time for each and every undemocratically elected Arab leader to take a hike and the people must ensure the looted assets are recovered.
Gulf Regimes have looted over 500 billion dollars of people's wealth. Get it all back dear Arab Citizens. Take back every dollar and avenge every murder of innocents by the Regimes in a legitimate, Gandhian and judicious way. Try every king and every prince in public. Not one should get a death penalty. They have to live in a public "Zoo" where they can be booed daily by democratic citizens and tourists. Never again in any incarnation must these despots choose to go near power. IP: Logged |
bonadea33
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posted February 25, 2011 08:28 AM
I have found in one Blog:Hosni Mubarak was born:
May 4th, 1928 at 4:05 am
in Kafr-El-Meselha, Monufia Governorate, Egypt. He is Ascendant Aries with Jupiter in the 1st house, what gives him good and charming look. About Gaddafi: there is not sure, what day he was born (Discussion about him). He was born 1942. That is all. B. ------------------
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Glaucus
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posted February 25, 2011 10:29 AM
It looks like things are getting more intense and escalating with both Sun and Mercury now conjunct/oppose transneptunian dwarf planet candidate 2007 OR10 Snow White Nodes in 7'02 Pisces/Virgo. Sun and Mercury is also sextile Pluto.
Therefore, Pluto is currently trine the South Snow White Node and sextile the Sun-North Snow White Node. Mercury-Snow White Nodes will be exact today. Sun-Snow White Nodes-Pluto configuration will be exact by midnight of February 26th.A highly collective evolutionary intensified day. The opportunity for change for the better.
I hope that astronomers name the object by the end of 2011. A big transneptunian object like that shouldn't be without a name for so long.
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Benedict Moon*
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posted February 25, 2011 10:56 AM
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Originally posted by bonadea33:
I have found in one Blog:Hosni Mubarak was born:
May 4th, 1928 at 4:05 am
in Kafr-El-Meselha, Monufia Governorate, Egypt. He is Ascendant Aries with Jupiter in the 1st house, what gives him good and charming look. About Gaddafi: there is not sure, what day he was born (Discussion about him). He was born 1942. That is all. B.
They have his chart on that site that persephone just posted, but with no birthtime. But wowser, take a look at that gemini stellium: it includes Sun, Mercury, saturn/uranus conjunct, lilith, and Jupiter. Maybe its just me but this isn't e exactly the first thing I'd expect in the chart of a autocratic ruler who's held onto power for 30+ years. Maybe one planet, but a whole stellium in a mutable sign? A guess a birtime would be nice to have for house placements. The latter 3 planets of the stellium are squared by Neptune which isn't suprising to me though (he did create a damn good illusion that he was *for* the people). Even more interesting would be his exact moon placement, because he could have both pluto and/or uranus hitting that right now.
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posted February 26, 2011 03:14 AM
Here is Natal Chart from Hosni Mubarak:
http://tinypic.com/r/121vn9x/7 Gaddafi was born June 7th, 1942 and looks older than Mubarak. About his birthday members in Discussion Forum are not sure: some of them write that he was born 1943.
How to discuss about his Horoscope, if there are no astrodata's?
For me Horo(scope) means that we need hour of birth. In that case is better to ask some clairvoyant, what will happen.
When I see the hour 12 pm, I am not going further. That has nothing to do with Astrology. B. ------------------
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posted February 26, 2011 06:45 AM
I checked Hosni Mubarak's transneptunian dwarf planet/candidates in his chart
Transneptunian dwarf planet/candidates are evolutionary intensified objects.
They have to do with evolutionary intensified lessons and experiences.
Evolutionary suggests that emotional and spiritual crisis induced by the presence and passage of these bodies intends to enhance the insight, inspiration, creativity and consciousness of a person on Earth and through events on Earth containing these bodies in significant locations.
It means that these energies involve lessons,experiences that can really make or break you. The hard aspects tend to indicate the possibility of experiencing some type of trauma which may be trying to the spirit but can eventually help you to grow spiritually. What doesn't kill you can make you stronger is something that can be applied to the transneptunian dwarf planet/candidates. They are highly metaphysical energies that involve insight,inspiration,and creativity that should be used not just for your benefit but for the benefit of others. These energies are about about going well beyond yourself and tapping into that mass consciousness.
There is a potential to really make a mark on the world and effect people on a grand scale.
Transneptunian Dwarf Planets: Pluto,Eris,Makemake,Haumea
Transneptunian Dwarf Planet Candidates: Sedna,Orcus,Quaoar,Varuna,Ixion
I use the following orbs for them:
This is for both regular chart (ecliptic longitude) and Right Ascension (equatorial longitude)
3'00 for the conjunction,opposition,trine,square (sextile is included if Midheaven/Imum Coeli,Ascendant/Descendant are involved)
2'00 for the sextile
1'00 for the semisextile,quincunx,semisquare,sesquiquadrate,quintile,biquintile Declinations (equatorial latitude):
0'30 for the parallel,contraparallel Main theme aspects: involving only Sun,Moon,Ascendant/Descendant,Midheaven/Imum Coeli Both for regular chart (ecliptic longitude) and Right Ascension (equatorial longitude)
1'00 for the conjunction,opposition,trine,square , (sextile is included if Ascendant/Descendant,Midheaven/Imum Coeli are involved) Declinations (equatorial latitude)
0'10 for the parallel,contraparallel
Moon in 5'10 Scorpio
biquintile Varuna in 0'03 Aries - 0'53
(emotional nature/feelings/instincts in creative connection with cosmic order/judgment/justice/evolutionary intensification)
Midheaven/Imum Coeli in 12'41 Capricorn/Cancer
oppose/conjunct Pluto in 15'14 Cancer
(aim in life/roots at odds/merge with transformation/power/evolutionary intensification) Venus in 27'38 Aries
square Haumea in 29'38 Cancer
(love/relationships/values in friction with creativity/fertility/evolutionary intensification
I also checked his chart in Right Ascension (Equatorial Longitude)
Sun in 10'54 Taurus
trine Orcus in 9'43 Virgo
(ego/self expression/vitality in harmony with oaths/promises/evolutionary intensification) Moon in 3'52 Scorpio
square Haumea in 1'48 Leo
(emotional nature/feelings/instincts in friction with creativity/fertility/evolutionary intensification) Ascendant/Descendant in 18'29 Aries
conjunct/oppose Sedna in 18'34 Aries - main theme dwarf planet/candidate aspect
square Pluto in 16'25 Cancer
(persona/relationships merge/odds with environmental awareness/care-taking for humanity/victimization/evolutionary intensification and in friction with transformation/power/evolutionary intensification Midheaven/Imum Coeli in 13'47 Capricorn
trine/sextile Orcus in 14'32 Taurus - main theme dwarf planet aspect
square Eris in 13'18 Aries - main theme dwarf planet aspect
(aim in life/roots in friction with diversity/equality/discord/evolutionary intensification) Mercury in 11'36 Taurus
conjunct Orcus in 14'32 Taurus
trine Quaoar in 9'43 Virgo
(thinking/communications merge with oaths/promises/evolutionary intensification and in harmony with creativity/inspiration/evolutionary intensification) He had 3 main theme aspects:
Ascendant/Descendant conjunct/oppose Sedna in Right Ascension - '05
Midheaven/Imum Coeli trine/sextile Orcus in Right Ascension - '45
Midheaven/Imum Coeli square Eris in Right Ascension - '29 Raymond ------------------
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posted February 26, 2011 07:09 AM
In Evolutionary Astrology, Jeffrey Wolf Green uses the geocentric planetary nodes for karmic insights. He believes that the south geocentric planetary nodes have to do with past karmic indicators. He believes the nodes of Jupiter thru Pluto are collective karmic indicators. He believes that the south nodes of Jupiter thru Pluto are past collective karmic indicators.He talks about planetary nodes in the book that he wrote with Steven Forrest
MEASURING THE NIGHT:
Evolutionary Astrology and the Keys to the Soul, Volume I
by Steven Forrest and Jeffrey Wolf Green
Chapter Seven: Jeffrey Wolf Green: The Planetary Nodes
http://www.forrestastrology.com/Reviews/measuring-the-night
I have his Geocentric Planetary Node Workshop DVD. He discusses the nodes of Jupiter thru Pluto from the Evolutionary Astrology perspective. He correlates time periods with these nodes. He talks about Natural Law a lot in the workshop. He talks about the south nodes as the karmic past.
I believe that it can also be applied to the Heliocentric Nodes. I believe that it actually works much better with the heliocentric nodes. Unlike the Geocentric Nodal axis with the north and south nodes not being in exact opposite of each other and even can be in signs that are not opposite, the north and south nodes in the Heliocentric Nodal axis is exactly opposite each other. The Heliocentric Nodes of all objects are a real axis like the Lunar Nodes,Midheaven/Imum Coeli, Ascendant/Descendant, Antivertex/Vertex, East Point/West Point, and the opposite house cusps like 2nd/8th. All of those are technically nodes because all of them are intersections of planes as well as mathematical lines.
I extended Jeffrey Wolf Green's concepts on the geocentric planetary nodes to the heliocentric nodes as well as the nodes of the minor planets. With his using the nodes of the transneptunian dwarf planet Pluto, it opens up the possibility that the nodes of Pluto's fellow transneptunian dwarf planet/candidates, Eris,Makemake,Haumea,Sedna,Orcus,Quaoar,Varuna,and Ixion can be used too. They can be used as collective karmic indicators. I view all of the transneptunian dwarf planet/candidates as evolutionary intensified objects,and so they have to do with evolutionary intensification. I view the nodes of the transneptunian dwarf planet/candidates as collective karma of evolutionary intensification.
Now with that in mind, I did Hosni Mubarak's chart: I looked at aspects only to the Sun,Moon,Ascendant/Descendant,Midheaven/Imum Coeli,Mercury,Venus,Mars
Orbs used:
Major Planetary Nodes (Heliocentric,Geocentric)
2'00 - conjunction,opposition,trine,square,sextile
1'30 - sextile (geocentric) Dwarf Planetary Nodes
1'30 - conjunction,opposition,trine,square,sextile
1'00 - sextile (geocentric) Chiron Nodes
1'00 conjunction,opposition,trine,square,sextile
0'30 - sextile (geocentric)
Main Theme Aspects - involving only Sun,Moon,Ascendant/Descendant,Midheaven/Imum Coeli
Major Planetary Nodes (Heliocentric,Geocentric)
1'00 - conjunction,opposition,trine,square
1'00 - sextile if Heliocentric Node or involving involving Ascendant/Descendant,Midheaven/Imum Coeli Dwarf/Candidate Planetary Nodes
0'30 - conjunction,opposition,trine,square
0'30 - sextile if Heliocentric Node or involving Ascendant/Descendant,Midheaven/Imum Coeli Chiron Nodes
0'15 - conjunction,opposition,trine,square
0'15 - sextile if Heliocentric Node or involving Ascendant/Descendant,Midheaven/Imum Coeli
Sun in 13'20 Taurus
square Geocentric South Neptune Node in 12'54 Aquarius - a main theme planetary node aspect
(His ego/self expression/vitality are in conflict with past collective dissolution/idealism/inspiration)
Ascendant/Descendant in 20'02 Aries
trine/sextile Geocentric South Makemake Nodes in 19'09 Sagittarius
square Geocentric South Jupiter Node in 19'58 Capricorn - a main theme planetary node aspect
square Geocentric South Pluto Node in 20'55 Capricorn
square Heliocentric Pluto Nodes in 19'19 Cancer/Capricorn
(His persona/relationships are harmony/work with past collective creativity/fertility/evolutionary intensification and in friction with past collective expansion/judgment/religion and collective transformation/power/evolutionary intensification.) Moon in 5'10 Scorpio
conjunct Geocentric South Eris Node in 4'57 Scorpio - a main theme dwarf planet node aspect
oppose Geocentric South Eris Node in 5'14 Taurus - a main theme dwarf planet node aspect
oppose/conjunct Heliocentric Eris Nodes in 5'09 Taurus/Scorpio - a main theme dwarf planet node aspect
trine/sextile Heliocentric Varuna Nodes in 6'20 Cancer/Capricorn
(His emotional nature merges/at odds with collective diversity/equality/discord/controversy/evolutionary intensification and in harmony/work with collective cosmic order/judgment/justice/evolutionary intensification) Venus in 27'38 Aries
oppose Geocentric North Chiron Node in 26'40 Libra
square Geocentric South Saturn Node in 28'36 Capricorn
(his love/relationships/values are at odds with past collective wounds/healing/teaching and are in friction with past collective structure/discipline/authority) Mars in 20'15 Pisces
sextile South Jupiter Node in 19'58 Capricorn
sextile South Pluto Node in 20'55 Capricorn
(his assertion/passion/physical drive work with past collective expansion/judgment/religion and past collective transformation/power/evolutionary intensification) 5 Main theme Nodal aspects:
Sun square Geocentric South Neptune Node - '26
Ascendant/Descendant square South Jupiter Node - '04
Moon conjunct Geocentric South Eris Node - '13
Moon oppose Geocentric North Eris Node - '04
Moon oppose/conjunct Heliocentric Eris Nodes - '01 (He has a very strong Moon-Eris Node alignment) ------------------
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lalalinda
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posted February 26, 2011 05:41 PM
Has any one noticed that Saif Gaddafi's birthday is June 25, 1972 ?again we have a t.Pluto aspect on an heir apparent, but this time it's the opposition. could this be ridding 2 birds (or heir apparent's) with one Plutonian stone?  out Comrades IP: Logged | |
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