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Topic: Upheavals in the Arab World
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iQ Knowflake Posts: 2504 From: Chennai, India Registered: Apr 2009
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posted January 29, 2011 03:38 AM
2011 has seen surprising upheavals in the orthodox Arab World, starting off by liberation against dictatorship in Tunisia and now upheavals in Egypt against the repressive Hosni Mubarak dictatorship, led by the excellent pro-democracy intellectual El-Baradei.This is a classical example of Jupiter in Aries, and things will get very intense and there will be huge freedom movements when Uranus enters Aries. In the background of all this is Pluto in Capricorn, ready to destroy all corrupt establishments: Dictators, orthodox Churches, Religious Dictatorships perhaps even repressive Bloodlines. When Saturn becomes direct, we might see massive upheavals in Saudi Arabia and Iran, the most powerful repressive societies in the modern age. We might see a Gandhian Palestinian uprising with Egyptian support, and on the tragedy side, we might see devastating earthquakes in Pakistan as that nation tries to silence liberal voices. Even certain Indian territories are due for Divine Intervention as tribals are being butchered, their lands taken for mining and false cases levied against minorities in North India [not to mention unmatched corruption in all levels of the ruling class]. 2011, the year of Uranus. 2+1+1 = 4. ------------------ http://tamsoft.co.in/articles.html
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Lonake Moderator Posts: 3362 From: U.S. Registered: Apr 2009
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posted January 29, 2011 03:45 AM
"and things will get very intense and there will be huge freedom movements when Uranus enters Aries"I hope so. I got such an amazing buzz when Uranus was in Aries for a spell last yr. Now that it's in Pisces I feel ..Zzzzzz... There is so much change that is overdue. IP: Logged |
Frozen Queen Moderator Posts: 187 From: 11th Dimension Registered: Dec 2010
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posted January 29, 2011 04:55 AM
Long overdue...these self-styled leaders have been too comfortable with feeding off the blood of the very people they repress.Inquilaab Zindabaad!! Long live revolution!!
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VenusDiSirius Knowflake Posts: 788 From: Praha Registered: Aug 2010
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posted January 29, 2011 06:48 AM
Ortodox Churches?IP: Logged |
littlecloud Moderator Posts: 535 From: Registered: Nov 2010
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posted January 29, 2011 08:55 AM
So we can expect some big things to happen when Uranus squares Pluto. What about when Jupiter conjuncts Uranus?edited to add: Yes there are a lot of Orthodox Churches in the Middle East. Orthodox Coptic is one of them. If I'm not mistaken then Coptic originated/came from Egypt. Correct me if I'm wrong someone. IP: Logged |
VenusDiSirius Knowflake Posts: 788 From: Praha Registered: Aug 2010
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posted January 29, 2011 12:05 PM
I was wondering why Iq addressed ortodox church as corrupted.IP: Logged |
lalalinda Moderator Posts: 1220 From: nevada Registered: Apr 2009
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posted January 29, 2011 12:28 PM
IQ! It's lovely to see you posting Thanks for the updates IP: Logged |
littlecloud Moderator Posts: 535 From: Registered: Nov 2010
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posted January 29, 2011 01:11 PM
A lot of the churches and religion for that matter has been corrupted from day one. For example the Bible to me is the New Testament and the New Testament only because Christianity follows (at least it should) Christ's teachings. The Old Testament is before Christ and therefore has nothing to do with him despite being integrated with the New in the Bible. This is incorrect. Not all Christian sects do this, but a great deal. Also some churches have changed a lot of their "laws" abruptly in history. The Catholic church did this in 1954 I believe. A lot of Catholics don't follow these changes because ever since then the Pope was tied to freemasons. Even the Shah was before he was overthrown and the people started to instate a religious based government. One of the biggest clues for me is the fact that Christmas is celebrated on December 25. Christ was not born that day but Christmas was changed that day because of the pagan celebrations of the winter solstice which is the shortest day of the year also a major "holiday" for freemasons. As is the summer solstice, the longest day of the year. Capricorn and Cancer respectively. I find it interesting that the greatest economic collapses of the world occurred in the time that Pluto was in Cancer and now Capricorn. The Greek Orthodox religions also had a change in when they Celebrated Christmas and the New Year. My friend told me that the difference was 13 days. The new calender (as they call it) is 13 days behind the old one. 13 is also a masonic number. If you study the Christian religion you'll see a lot of similarities with pagan worship. Which as a Christian I don't believe belongs there. IQ- Where was Uranus when the Shah was overthrown in Iran? IP: Logged |
littlecloud Moderator Posts: 535 From: Registered: Nov 2010
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posted January 29, 2011 01:24 PM
VDS- This is a link about the man who overthrew the Shah http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ruhollah_Khomeini I'm really happy the people are rising up against the government that doesn't have it's people interest at heart. The U.S has meddled in other countries affairs for too long. It's about time they (the US gov't) got a reality check. IP: Logged |
VenusDiSirius Knowflake Posts: 788 From: Praha Registered: Aug 2010
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posted January 29, 2011 01:27 PM
Anyone who knows of ortodox churches' hierarchy would see why calling them corrupted is problematic. Julian calendar has collected over centuries 13 days gap(and the gap is still rising) between itself and tropical year. That's why chirstmas is mostly celebrated on 25th dec. In the 16th century,in the times when science begun developing,inaccurance was easily spoted. IP: Logged |
littlecloud Moderator Posts: 535 From: Registered: Nov 2010
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posted January 29, 2011 02:17 PM
Well I see calling any church hierarchy corrupt problematic. You start being labeled all sorts of things but it doesn't change the truth of the matter. Christ was born sometime in the spring. His "birthday" (it's weird calling it that) was changed because of the popularity of paganism. I've read several historical texts saying that it was changed in hopes of getting more Christian converts. I don't believe this as the reason for the change, rather this: http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum21/HTML/000226-2.html I've also been told by a girl I worked with that the changes in the calender of the Greek Orthodox religion where great as far as what their mass covered in prayers and such. I think mass became much shorter and the prayers became half of what they should. My Romanian ex didn't understand why it was called Greek Orthodox that was his pet peeve. I might be off on the date for the Catholic Church, it was before the Second Vatican Council in 1962 with Pope John XXIII. Another 13. I'm sorry but I don't believe in coincidences. IP: Logged |
iQ Knowflake Posts: 2504 From: Chennai, India Registered: Apr 2009
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posted January 29, 2011 11:50 PM
Did I say Greek Orthodox Church or "Orthodox Churches" ? Any Roman Catholic or Protestant or Billy Grahamish Church which forces only Orthodox views on their sheeple is nothing but an Orthodox Church in general. Perhaps rephrasing as Churches of Imposed Orthodox views is a better description.Gnostic Churches are legit. Waldensians, Quakers, Unitarians etc who think laterally are all ok, they never repressed their populace but got tortured by the rigid Papacy. All these rigid chaps are to be shown the door in the coming year. Uranus square Pluto will be the peak of the upheaval.
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iQ Knowflake Posts: 2504 From: Chennai, India Registered: Apr 2009
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posted January 30, 2011 12:06 AM
Hi LittleCloud, I once tried out the best astrological dates based on heavy planet aspects to map Jesus' birthday, and July in 1 AD looked very powerful.There are Arabian Traditions that indicate the Date Palms were ripe [with dates ready to fall], and this is a sign that it was peak summer in the Middle East, July or August. Anyway, great to know that you don't accept the false Dec 25th "Saturnalia" date as Christmas. He does not have any clear cut "default" Capricorn Sun traits. 1. He is extremely generous 2. Has great hair 3. Gives lectures upon lectures 4. Is opinionated 5. The Lion reference is used all over the scriptures for him 6. Did not have any support of the Orthodoxy 7. Easily became the center of attention Strong pointer to being a Leo, with Ascendant conjunct Star REGULUS or even Galactic Center and absolutely with a Pisces Moon.
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VenusDiSirius Knowflake Posts: 788 From: Praha Registered: Aug 2010
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posted January 30, 2011 12:09 AM
quote: Originally posted by iQ: Did I say Greek Orthodox Church or "Orthodox Churches" ? Any Roman Catholic or Protestant or Billy Grahamish Church which forces only Orthodox views on their sheeple is nothing but an Orthodox Church in general. Perhaps rephrasing as Churches of Imposed Orthodox views is a better description.Gnostic Churches are legit. Waldensians, Quakers, Unitarians etc who think laterally are all ok, they never repressed their populace but got tortured by the rigid Papacy. All these rigid chaps are to be shown the door in the coming year. Uranus square Pluto will be the peak of the upheaval.
Then write Ortodox with small o;it is adjective.
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VenusDiSirius Knowflake Posts: 788 From: Praha Registered: Aug 2010
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posted January 30, 2011 12:13 AM
quote: Originally posted by littlecloud: Well I see calling any church hierarchy corrupt problematic. You start being labeled all sorts of things but it doesn't change the truth of the matter. Christ was born sometime in the spring. His "birthday" (it's weird calling it that) was changed because of the popularity of paganism. I've read several historical texts saying that it was changed in hopes of getting more Christian converts. I don't believe this as the reason for the change, rather this: http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum21/HTML/000226-2.html I've also been told by a girl I worked with that the changes in the calender of the Greek Orthodox religion where great as far as what their mass covered in prayers and such. I think mass became much shorter and the prayers became half of what they should. My Romanian ex didn't understand why it was called Greek Orthodox that was his pet peeve. I might be off on the date for the Catholic Church, it was before the Second Vatican Council in 1962 with Pope John XXIII. Another 13. I'm sorry but I don't believe in coincidences.
Orthodox Churches have autonomy;they are not centralised like Roman Catholic,so u have Greek,Russian,Church Of Jerusalim,etc.. Of course it was shocking,imagine celebrating chirstamas on 7th January,and all of sudden,it's 25 Dec.. IP: Logged |
iQ Knowflake Posts: 2504 From: Chennai, India Registered: Apr 2009
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posted January 30, 2011 01:22 AM
VDS, Small o, done, and you too try to read according to context, the important thing is to focus on the upheavals in the most repressed parts of the world thanks to the strong generational transits. It has started in Egypt as well, very soon there will be "domino effects" across Jordan, Yemen, Syria and ultimately Saudi Arabia. Just like in 1989 when the Eatsern Bloc liberated themselves from repressive Soviet Influence. IP: Logged |
Quinnie Moderator Posts: 918 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted January 30, 2011 11:35 AM
Bumping this up to read laterIP: Logged |
littlecloud Moderator Posts: 535 From: Registered: Nov 2010
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posted January 30, 2011 12:13 PM
IQ- I only mentioned Greek Orthodox because I knew a little something about it based on my ex boyfriend and my friend I worked with. He went with the new, she with the old and she was Macedonian which I found intriguing but then understand the geology of it I suppose it's not too surprising. I understand you mentioned Orthodox churches as a general. Once I started venturing into religion on my own I realized there were many connections between things that ideally and systematically shouldn't have connections. To me Native Americans where/are more "Christian" than many priests, popes and what-have-you. They share amongst each other, work in harmony with nature and give thanks for the animal they hunt for their survival. Which is very similar to what Christianity tells you to do. I have a deep respect for Native Americans for this because they actually practiced what they preached. A strong Pisces influence goes without saying. The sign of Christianity is a fish after all. Which is also very nutritional. High in Omega-3 it helps keep your eyesight functioning, your heart, even your teeth. I also laugh at the blonde hair blue eyed Jesus many icons depict. He was born in the middle east and therefore is most likely to have brown hair, brown eyes and an olive skin tone complexion. In regards to the dates, did Ramadan fall in the summer that year? (Forgive me if this is a stupid question, I've forgotten the beginnings of Islam) What does the star REGULUS mean? (Regal?) When will Uranus square Pluto? Does Jupiter play into this?
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VenusDiSirius Knowflake Posts: 788 From: Praha Registered: Aug 2010
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posted January 30, 2011 03:54 PM
IQ,I don't see how reading is possible without context ur mistake changed meaning. Oppressed nations... Maybe. That depends on what freedom means to them. Internet connection and availability can be big deal to someone from west; not beduin; I heard on news. That's first sentence as response to how do u see ur situation question. We want internet! And sms! Western-coloured rebellion. That's even worse than oppression. To use form and not taking in account substance-> western democracy:arab nations.Littlecloud,regulus is star that brings u up and then drags u down. Cor leonis,leon's heart. Strong when in conj with sun and mars. As for diffrent hair colour... Free interpretation,no? Icons are work of art... Besides,in eastren churches jesus is always brown haired,draker skin tone. But,that's specific byzantine style of icon-making. Vitrage gives more room for manouvres. IP: Logged |
littlecloud Moderator Posts: 535 From: Registered: Nov 2010
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posted January 30, 2011 04:53 PM
I just checked mine, it's 7 degrees away from my sun, 4 from mercury and trines my Mc, Saturn and Uranus all within 3 degrees....interesting. About icons; I was just referring to what I've seen many times in America. When I studied art I noticed that the Byzantine style looked more "correct". IP: Logged |
Moons Of Jupiter Knowflake Posts: 149 From: Australia Registered: Jun 2010
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posted January 30, 2011 07:26 PM
Strongly doubt Jesus was anything other than a Sun Pisces. Along with goodness and goodwill, corruption (not necessarily in the traditional sense, but SPIRITUAL corruption) is alive and well in religious institutions, as outlined in The Bible, Qur'an, The Torah, old scriptures...etc. We are all engaging with divine text here, meaning that interpretation will always leave room for differences and mistakes, ESPECIALLY by leaders. I am hoping IQ's predictions about changes are right. I believe that changes need to happen on an inner level for individuals now. We can't be afraid of questioning the institutions we belong to, yet strengthening our own faith with the Source directly, and not via the mostly politically organized and alternately motivated religious groups we happen to belong to. IP: Logged |
littlecloud Moderator Posts: 535 From: Registered: Nov 2010
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posted January 30, 2011 10:58 PM
This might be interesting to some http://www.starsoverwashington.com/ IP: Logged |
VenusDiSirius Knowflake Posts: 788 From: Praha Registered: Aug 2010
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posted January 31, 2011 12:58 AM
quote: Originally posted by littlecloud: I just checked mine, it's 7 degrees away from my sun, 4 from mercury and trines my Mc, Saturn and Uranus all within 3 degrees....interesting. About icons; I was just referring to what I've seen many times in America. When I studied art I noticed that the Byzantine style looked more "correct".
1-2 degree for fixed stars. Just in conj and on angles IP: Logged |
littlecloud Moderator Posts: 535 From: Registered: Nov 2010
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posted January 31, 2011 11:53 AM
I'm not specialIP: Logged |
mochai Knowflake Posts: 509 From: Charon Registered: Sep 2010
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posted January 31, 2011 12:48 PM
Really? Focusing in on your energy gives me a happy buzz..Being more serious. I think we're all equal/special. IP: Logged |