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Mblake81
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posted February 14, 2011 08:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mblake81     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Edited, I think I linked the correct chart, or is another available?

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posted February 14, 2011 08:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Agent_009     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
LIGHTNING,
Did you mean this chart???
Well, here's mine...no clue how to read it.


Type: Projector
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Lightning Strike
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posted February 14, 2011 08:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lightning Strike     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Mblake, download the software from the web address on the first post, so you can have yours and others charts available at the snap of a finger!
Agent, you too have the Channel of Curiosity. 11-56: The Channel of Curiosity. You are forever seeking life's meaning, then yearning to express it. You have the inclination to speak your mind. You're curious to see how the audience reacts. You have an interest in anything and everything, flitting from one stimulating idea to the next. You like nothing more than seeing the results of your curiosity stimulate others. "Seek and ye shall find" is applicable here. Your mind cannot rest until it experiences everything in life.

Yours is a single definition chart (only one defined channel).

"At 41% of the population, single definitions are common. They have all their centers connected. These centers are communicating with each other without interruption. There is a self sufficiency in this process since they don't need any external influence to bridge any splits.

Single definition people tend to process information faster. The other side of this is that single definition people might not need to go as deep into the information as another definition would.

Of course things like whether the head center or solar plexus center are defined will influence how fast they process, but overall they do not have the same disjointed feeling that other definitions have. They are whole all the time.

Because of this there is less reason for them to hook into other people. This on one hand allows for less co dependant behavior, but on the other that very lack of a hook can mean there is nowhere for others to fit in their lives."

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Mblake81
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posted February 14, 2011 08:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mblake81     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What is the percentage of three channel people?

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Agent_009
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posted February 14, 2011 08:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Agent_009     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
LIGHTNING,
THANKS! If you can, could you briefly explain how to read these charts?? it would be extremely helpful!

Could you help me determine what the following 2 charts are too? Thanks a ton.


CHART 1:
Projector, 5/2.


CHART 2 (My older Bro):
Generating-Manifestor, 6/2.

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["They have all their centers connected. These centers are communicating with each other without interruption. There is a self sufficiency in this process since they don't need any external influence to bridge any splits."]
~ Very true. My Virgo Sun trine Cap Moon. My mind & heart tends to be on the same wavelength. When I'm set on something, it comes from a very solid decision so no one can persuade me otherwise.

["Because of this there is less reason for them to hook into other people. This on one hand allows for less co dependant behavior, but on the other that very lack of a hook can mean there is nowhere for others to fit in their lives."]
~ Very true. I've always been a lone-wolf since a toddler. Now as an adult, people tend to treat me as "Miss Fix-it," and I do find it quite draining...which is why I tend to avoid people. I love helping people, but I am a "big picture," person. If someone doesnt take my advice & keeps making repeat offenses but yet keeps coming back crying to me, I do cut off ties. At the same time, I do observe & learn tons from other people's mistakes.

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Lightning Strike
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posted February 14, 2011 09:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lightning Strike     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Mblake, you may have 3 channels, but ONLY if gates are linked from the Personality (Conscious) and Design (Unconscious) then is it consider "defined".

Agent, I'll be back to help you analyze.
Meanwhile, here's a helpful link: http://www.joyfulmission.com/articles/article/2243258/30067.htm

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posted February 14, 2011 09:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Betty Boop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I find this very interesting as a psychological tool. Thank you for posting it - This is the first time I'm hearing about it and I love researching new things!

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But I must say - I am skeptical of the story behind it...

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The Human Design System was given form by Ra Uru Hu. Born Alan (Robert) Krakower in Montreal, Canada April 9, 1948, the son of wealthy parents, he received a good education and went on to work as an entrepreneur, a magazine publisher, an advertising executive and media producer.
The Human Design System was revealed to Ra Uru Hu by what called itself the "Voice" which spoke to him for eight consecutive days and nights in January of 1987. At the time of his encounter he was living in an old ruin over an ancient well on the island of Ibiza, off the coast of Spain. His life completely changed through his experience with the "Voice". Every cell in his body was different; even his name was different. To this day, Ra does not claim this is “his” information; but that it was given in trust to him for the future children of humanity.

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Lightning Strike
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posted February 14, 2011 09:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lightning Strike     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
AGENT - The first chart has one channel: http://www.humandesign.com/channel-of-community-40-37
The 40-37 links the Heart Center through the 40, the Gate of Deliverance, to the 37, the Gate of the Family in the Emotional Center. It is “the bargain” that underlies everything Tribal. “I’ll do for you if you’ll do for me”.

The 40-37 is part of the 'Touch" stream of senses in which handshakes, hugs and bargains are expected and honored. In a very basic sense every human is existentially alone. This channel bridges that state and allows us to form communities in which everyone has their place and function and receives honor and respect.

Where on the Splenic side the energy is for the individual to get ahead, over here on the emotional side the energy is for getting together, for working together, and living together. Over here we invest in each other and in the group. We support the community with the things money can’t buy.

In community there is little evidence of hierarchy. No one feels superior or inferior because everyone willingly


Now the second chart has a grand total of 5 channels:
20/57: http://humandesign.com/channel-of-the-brainwave-20-57
The Channel of the Brainwave - 20-57, links the Spleen Center through the 57, the Gate of Intuitive Clarity, to the 20, the Gate of the Now in the Throat Center. This is the voice of intuition. One of the most extraordinary capacities humans have, via this channel, is pure intuition that can speak.

Although the spleen is in charge of health and well being, it’s not an energy center so while this channel can be very aware of what’s necessary for health and well being, it’s not necessarily able to actually do anything about it. The most profound function of this channel is to empower others to be intelligent. Here we have an individual deeply absorbed in intelligence. The spleen operates in the moment, and the 57 is always listening to the subtle cues of their environment, going beyond the surface details of what they are hearing.

Their focus is on strategies that will enable their well being, and then on how to actually express it. Their very focus becomes a way to share intelligence. And it all happens in the now. They will know in the now what is healthy for them. If they ignore that, the moment will pass and they will suffer for it. The best advice you could give someone with this channel is to listen to their instincts in the moment.

Then, another channel that the chart has is 40/37, which is stated above.

6/59:http://www.humandesign.com/channel-of-mating-59-6
The Channel of Mating – 59-6 links the Sacral Center through the 59, the Gate of Dispersion, to the 6, the Gate of Conflict in the Emotional Center. This channel represents Reproduction, which is the fundamental genetic drive in humans.

Since it’s also a part of the Tribal circuitry the element of support is present here. This channel can result in conceiving a child and so support is obviously an important thing.

A person with this channel gives and gets support through being intimate. The image of a mother and father hugging each other and staring at her pregnant belly is the energy of this channel: two people giving each other support through intimacy.

Living together intimately usually includes conflict (the 6), and we know how emotional that can be. The 59 responds to the emotional turbulence of conflict and seeks to disperse it – thereby restoring the connection between people. The process functions in a variety of ways and is no longer limited to reproduction.

We can see it at work trying to reestablish the connection between cultures and religions in the world today. The ability humans have demonstrated over the millennia to survive are, to a great extent, due to the energy of the Defense circuit.

20/34: Channel of Charisma. http://humandesign.com/channel-of-charisma-20-34
The Channel of Charisma, 34 - 20, links the Sacral Center through the 34, the Gate of Power, to the 20, the Gate of Now in the throat. Here we have the "classic" Manifesting Generator.

We have to be clear in our understanding that a Manifesting Generator can manifest but only in response. Even in response they have to wait for the clarity that only comes after they start their response. They don’t really know if they have the uh-huh response until they begin to respond.

Since this is one of the Integration Channels people with this channel defined are simply being busy for themselves and about themselves. Without a sense of what it is doing, the channel often needs guidance from others from time to time. Yet as part of the Individual Circuitry (it shares the 20), the 20-34 is attuned to an acoustic harmony, and tends to be deaf to input from outside sources.

People with this channel may think they have to stay busy and can appear to the outside observer as amazing in the scope of accomplishment. But without a clear response mechanism, the 20 - 34 can easily wind up frustrated in their personal sense of achievement and utterly exhausted.

Good advice to give people with this channel: Unless you want to end up trapped into being a work horse for somebody else's gain, don't do or say anything unless you are responding. The business has to happen out of response. Only then will you make sure you are busy for yourself, otherwise life will be depressing.

And finally, Channel 34/57, Channel of the Archetype. http://humandesign.com/channel-of-the-archetype-34-57 http://humandesign.com/channel-of-the-archetype-34-57
The Channel of the Archetype - 34-57, links the Spleen Center through the 57, the Gate of Intuitive Clarity, to the 34, the Gate of Power in the Sacral Center.

Here we are seeing the actual empowerment of intuitive intelligence as the sacral is connected to the spleen. It is a direct link from the power of life to the awareness of health and well being.

Keep in mind, however, that this is not a channel to empower others and keep in mind, as well, that in the sense of the not-self it is the most arrogant of all channel configurations.In a pretty bold fashion this channel proclaims, 'I'm the one that has the power to survive'. And it couldn't care less if you can or not. You barely exist to them.

This is why they are Archetypes. These people are designed to be Archetypes. of being human. They are pure in their focus to be alive. Like an arrow in the sky their life force shoots by you. It is neither shared with you nor meant to empower you. It is simply alive.

How that life force moves through space will depend on their full chart. But overall they are an archetype of how all our charts are unique.

The 34th gate is the Power of the Great and when it feeds into the 57, we have this archetype from our ancient mammalian past that stands above the rest in terms of being able to kill the most animals for survival. The 57 operates on an acoustic level to screen all sounds for an ongoing sense of harmony.

The 34, as a Generator Gate, responds with great power to implement things according to acoustic changes that may affect one’s realm of harmonic well-being.

The 34 - 57 is the archetype of aliveness and anyone with this channel in their Design can be extremely fit and healthy, - provided they follow their Design strategy. Sharing the 57 with Individual channels, it is prone to melancholy and a tendency to attach reason to being moody. Provided any person with this channel is clear about the nature of their moods, and adjusts to them without trying to fix them, they remain healthy.

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Agent_009
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posted February 14, 2011 09:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Agent_009     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
LIGHTNING,

Thanks so much! I'm just trying to understand...why does my brother have 5 channels whereas I only have 1? Does this mean I am generally "balanced," enough I dont have to focus on other areas? Kind of like different areas of Karma one has to work out? Or does it mean he has 5 focus areas of stronger talent/strengths & I only have 1?

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Lightning Strike
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posted February 14, 2011 09:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lightning Strike     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Betty Boop, lol, it sounded fishy to me too!
Must be too many horror movies about being possessed in my field of knowledge, lol!
But what really got me going was its accuracy and the science behind it all.

Post your chart up! Let's take a look

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Lightning Strike
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posted February 14, 2011 09:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lightning Strike     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This is how it's linked to astrology. Conjunctions/planets being in the same sign tend to be influenced by the same gate, depending on the distance, and so that gives less of an opportunity for channels to be formed.
Meanwhile, if someone's chart is scattered & all over the place, that would mean a greater number of chances to form channels between the planets/nodes, resulting in more "abilites".
As stated previously, single definition people are more focused, excel and master at whatever they set their eyes on.

Multiple definitions could be like: Jack of all trades, master of none.
Single definitions: Master of one.

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posted February 14, 2011 09:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Agent_009     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
LIGHTNING,

Ahhh, with the astrology it makes a LOT more sense. I have a 5 Planets & ASC stuffed in Libra 1H. My overall chart is basically stuffed in the lower left corner. Also CHART-1 I posted, is a bowl chart with everything stuffed in a corner too. My bro's chart is more of a splash pattern.

Actually, my Bro & I are both Jacks of all Trades & masters of none. We both march to the beat of our own drums too. He's always wanted to be a CEO since age 6. Now he's 30 & getting ready to launch his own start up company in the Tech industry. I myself am working towards becoming a Director. We're both "Big picture," personalities & suck at working for other people. Although I'm an INTJ & he's an ENTJ. It does make sense we're both 6/2.


P.S. It's Vday! No hot date for you? (unless your in a diff time zone than me). We're both sitting on this forum! Hermits...LOL.
Although I find this much more interesting, as I tend to get a huge kick out of learning about something that's useful...so thanks!

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posted February 14, 2011 10:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lightning Strike     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
LOL I'm only fifteen, soon to be sixteen!
It's that darn Moon trine Saturn.
Lol tell me about being a jack of all trades, my b-day is 5/5/95, talk about a bombardment of 5's!
My only driving force has been my wanting to be noticed LOL
Speaking of not being able to work for a boss, I'm going to have to ride it out for the next couple of years.. I might as well be shackled!
Tell me, how has your life been as a 6/2? My father's a 4/6, and I can definitly see where the role model plays into his being.

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posted February 14, 2011 10:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lioness     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
HEY!!! I liked mine.. It made sense.. A lot of it fit..

@@@@Lol join the club of ManGen's! Lioness,@@@@
I dont get it..

@@Lioness, we're proud holders of the Right Angle Cross of the Sphinx!@@
Not sure what that means.

I think some of the definitions actually fit with my chart also.

Im going to read more...

I still havent gotten in ... The site doesnt like me... lol

The 4th line profile is one of the most unusual.
Why is it unusual??


The 4/6 is an opportunistic personality employing its transpersonal gifts, its ability to establish friendships, to communicate the values of the lower trigram, and in doing so, fulfilling its personal destiny. We have seen the aloofness and disinterest inherent in the sixth line and that it rarely leads to involvement. The nature of the transitional sixth line is to code and assess and then pass judgment on what has been established beforehand.

WOW... I do know my destiny lies with communication. Also all my LEo is in H6..
I do watch people ALOT.. and make decisions.. I listen before I will really talk to someone..
tripppp..

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posted February 14, 2011 10:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for specialistangel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Lightening STrike, about your quote:

"Don't be afraid of the space between your dreams and reality. If you can dream it, you can make it so."

I really agree with this quote, it's great and nice, so, I think I should also encourage people to follow their dreams.

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posted February 14, 2011 10:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lightning Strike     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Lioness, we're Manifesting Generators.
We were born under the Right Angle Cross of the Sphinx.
Read further down in that post, and you'll see what I mean.
I mean, I think human design is like unraveling our personalities, you know?

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posted February 14, 2011 10:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lightning Strike     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Specialist - thanks babe!
My method is scrolling down a page of quotes, stopping and choosing the first quote that I see - divine chance!
But thanks, I love to put even a glimmer of inspiration in people!

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posted February 14, 2011 10:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lioness     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Lightning Strike:
Lioness, we're Manifesting Generators.
We were born under the Right Angle Cross of the Sphinx.
Read further down in that post, and you'll see what I mean.
I mean, I think human design is like unraveling our personalities, you know?


I read about being the gate 7..

What Im confused about is the meaning of Manifesting Generators and Right Angle Cross of the Sphinx..

I can only see what you wrote and the link to the 4/6 profile...
I still havent been able to get onto the website.
I registered, and got an email saying it was pending.. But never received the confirmation of approval.
I tried to re-register but it says email already in use... lol

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posted February 14, 2011 10:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for specialistangel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
No problem lightening strike, just keep on inspiring.

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posted February 14, 2011 10:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Agent_009     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
LIGHTNING,

HAha! Well you sure are a smart cookie to be reading up this stuff at 15. Actually I was like that at that age, but it was Briggs Myers instead. Your born on a 5 day, 7 Lifepath, no wonder your a hermit. I was a hardcore hermit growing up, well still am now. I'm a 1 Lifepath btw. 1/5/7's are Cerebral & tend to hermit up via studying/thinking. Although 5 is probably the most outgoing of the 3 cerebral numbers. You probably know this already...

Life as a 6/2 well,...I'd have to say being a hermit, really gives you all the time in the world to learn & seriously perfect tons of things. Which is why I'm a Jack of all trades. In truth, I dont think I'm a master of none either. I am confident I have mastered a few things to perfection...any of those things could easily become my career if need be. My older bro was a hermit too growing up, but he became more outgoing during Univ.
The audio about 6/2's observing the world from the roof. Yeah I would say I spent all my childhood informative years observing & learning. I tend to learn a lot through other's mistakes. Like if someone went through an abusive relationship, no way in hell I would let myself go through that. I do think it's a misconception people label us/hermits as observers who refuse to partake in life. As we all have to get involved inorder to live through life. Everyone has their own path of mud'n sludge to tread through. Nobody's going to make you a CEO of a company unless you have the experience. Inorder to gain that experience, you have to tread through mud to get there. Simply observing all the time doesnt get one there per se. Honestly the key to a 6/2 is being able to breakdown "mistakes," (& people's motivations causing them to make mistakes) after having observed so much. That's why we're able to determine what works or not. I know many people would like to think they have great understanding of the human psyche/psychology. However to some degree, I dont think they truly understand it. Or else they wouldnt be serial repeaters when it comes to making mistakes. I dont think anything's wrong with making mistakes, unless it's becoming an overwhelming factor in one's life. When one truly understands a concept, you eliminate 95% room for "potential," error. That's why Knowledge is Power! 6/2's have that ability to make sure they really have a solid understanding of something to the core, before jumping in executing. So it's not to say we are charmed or cream of the crop, having executive ability...I really believe one needs to put in the time/energy/suffering/perseverance to learn & acquire those skills. Acquiring always means partaking in & experiencing it for yourself...

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posted February 14, 2011 10:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for specialistangel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Also, who's this "we" you speak of?

I think it's just you.

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posted February 14, 2011 11:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for blonderiverkat     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I hope this works...I don't understand it quite yet,but I am very intrigued! Thank you Lightning!
http://www.jovianarchive.com/Pages/GetYourChart.aspx#

Kat

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posted February 14, 2011 11:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for blonderiverkat     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Okay...so how did you guys get your charts to post??? I am with Lioness *blonde* hehe

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posted February 14, 2011 11:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for specialistangel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
A blonde? HOW do you know she's blonde?

It has to be magic

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posted February 14, 2011 11:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lioness     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by specialistangel:
A blonde? HOW do you know she's blonde?

It has to be magic


ITs TRUE!! I admit it...

lol...

I said it earlier in one of the post, that its my blondness...

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