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athenegoddess
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posted March 15, 2012 11:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for athenegoddess     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks,

Ya, I'm a Yang Earth Dragon.
My boyfriend is a Yin Wood Rabbit.

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posted March 15, 2012 11:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for s4nd     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted March 15, 2012 11:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mintgirl123     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I still don't think it's that specific? I'm a earth snake, but everyone born in the same year is the same.

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posted March 15, 2012 11:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It's more complicated than that. You have an Inner Companion, which is like an ASC, and it strongly interacts with your basic Animal Sign.

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posted March 16, 2012 12:23 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for aquaguy91     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
i get very confused because some books say im born the year of the horse and some say sheep,i was born in 1991

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posted March 16, 2012 05:42 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Voix_de_la_Mer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Aquarian water dog here - always got my fist in the air about something, Libra stellium probably adds to this too.

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posted March 16, 2012 06:13 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for s4nd     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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YoursTrulyAlways
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posted March 16, 2012 06:54 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for YoursTrulyAlways     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You can't rely on just your annual animal sign. It's a whole lot more complicated than that. There's an basic element, then a heavenly element, and then there's the month, the day, the hour, and about four to six elements in each one. Bottom line is that there are several million permutations, more than 12 astrological signs and 12 houses.

Also, western philosophy is for all to study and know. Chinese philosophy is only for the inner secretive circle. What you know and can learn may not be all that you can know, even if one were ethnic Chinese. Nobody is sharing everything. Secrets are kept within clans and families. Same with Kung Fu, etc. Remember that while Bruce Lee was popular, he was heavily despised in Chinese martial arts circles for sharing Jeet Kun Do with non-Chinese.

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posted March 16, 2012 10:11 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Voix_de_la_Mer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by YoursTrulyAlways:
You can't rely on just your annual animal sign. It's a whole lot more complicated than that. There's an basic element, then a heavenly element, and then there's the month, the day, the hour, and about four to six elements in each one. Bottom line is that there are several million permutations, more than 12 astrological signs and 12 houses.

Also, western philosophy is for all to study and know. Chinese philosophy is only for the inner secretive circle. What you know and can learn may not be all that you can know, even if one were ethnic Chinese. Nobody is sharing everything. Secrets are kept within clans and families. Same with Kung Fu, etc. Remember that while Bruce Lee was popular, he was heavily despised in Chinese martial arts circles for sharing Jeet Kun Do with non-Chinese.


Yourtrulyalways,

can you recommend a good source to find out all the other chinese astrology nuances?
I have often tried to find more about it online and in books and fail to come up with much indepth information.
I guess it's maybe just like you say - secret ...

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posted March 16, 2012 10:44 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for athenegoddess     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by YoursTrulyAlways:
You can't rely on just your annual animal sign. It's a whole lot more complicated than that. There's an basic element, then a heavenly element, and then there's the month, the day, the hour, and about four to six elements in each one. Bottom line is that there are several million permutations, more than 12 astrological signs and 12 houses.

Also, western philosophy is for all to study and know. Chinese philosophy is only for the inner secretive circle. What you know and can learn may not be all that you can know, even if one were ethnic Chinese. Nobody is sharing everything. Secrets are kept within clans and families. Same with Kung Fu, etc. Remember that while Bruce Lee was popular, he was heavily despised in Chinese martial arts circles for sharing Jeet Kun Do with non-Chinese.


Wow interesting. Yes I noticed it's highly complex I'd have to basically relearn astrology but sound tempting.

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posted March 16, 2012 01:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for YoursTrulyAlways     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Voix_de_la_Mer:
Yourtrulyalways,

can you recommend a good source to find out all the other chinese astrology nuances?
I have often tried to find more about it online and in books and fail to come up with much indepth information.
I guess it's maybe just like you say - secret ...


I cracked up laughing when I received this list of instructions

You see what I mean by overly complex and secretive?


Interpretation Guidelines and Checklist for Four Pillars of Destiny Charts
Plotting a Four Pillars of Destiny Chart involves the consideration of many determinants. To be a great analyst you must be careful with the details and include many factors for an accurate interpretation. I have found it helpful to my students to have a checklist, so I have created this basic one to help everyone get started. For those of you who would like to continue your studies on a deeper level, more steps will be added.

Calculation: Plotting the Chart
1. Get an accurate birth date: Year, Month, Day, Hour and location.
2. Check if Daylight Savings Time or War Time was in effect in the birth city. A DST or WT birth hour should be moved backward 1hour.
3. Use the Chinese Solar calendar to plot the Year Pillar (Year Stem and Year Branch), and the Day Pillar (Day Stem and Day Branch). Any date before February 4/5 (Li Chun) will be considered the previous year.
4. To plot the Month Pillar, check the Birth Day and the monthly Jie to get the Month Branch. Based on the Year Stem, use the Five Tigers Chasing the Month method to get the Month Stem.
5. To plot the Hour Pillar, check the Birth Hour to get the Hour Branch. Based on the Day Stem, use the Five Rats Chasing the Hour method to get the Hour Stem.
6. Determine the person’s gender, Male or Female. Based on the Year Pillar, determine if the person is Yang Male/Yin Female or Yin Male/Yang Female.
7. List the Luck Pillars based on the Month Pillar as the origin of the Luck Pillars. A Yang Male/Yin Female will start with the pillar that follows the Month Pillar in a forward sequence of the 60 Jia-Zi. Yin Male/Yang Female will start with the pillar that precedes the Month Pillar in a backward sequence of the 60 Jia-Zi.
8. Determine the starting age of the first Luck Pillar. Each Luck Pillar is in effect for 10 years. The Birth Day and the monthly Jie will determine the starting age of the first Luck Pillar. For a Yang Male/Yin Female, count from the Birth Day to the next month's Jie. (include Birth Day). Divide the total number of days by 3. For a Yin Male/Yang Female, count from the previous month's Jie to the Birth Day (including Birth Day). Divide the total number of days by 3.
9. The Birth Year will be counted as ONE, because the gestation period is included. List the 10 Annual Luck Pillars for each Luck Pillar Cycle.
Filling in the Details
10. List the Hidden Stems of the Year Branch, Month Branch, Day Branch and Hour Branch. List the Hidden Stems of the Luck Pillar Branches.
11. Fill in the Deities based on the relationship between the Day Stem (Day Master) with other Stems or Hidden Stems.
12. Fill in the 12 life stages based on the Day Stem.
13. Determine what if any Missing/Void Branches are present in the chart. Missing Branches are based only on the Year Pillar and Day Pillar.
14. Check the Helpful People in the chart. Helpful People are based on the Month Branch and Day Stem.
15. Check out all the Combinations, Clashes, Penalties and Break-ups.
16. List the 6 possible trouble Luck and Annual Pillars based on the Day Pillar.
17. List the Luck and Annual Pillars that combine with the Month Pillar for 10/1 good luck years.
18. List the Luck and Annual Pillars that clash with the Month Pillar. Check during those Luck Pillars for any year that will clash with the Day Pillar or Hour Pillar, for dangerous years.
19. List the In-tomb Stem and Branch if the month branch is Chen, Xu, Chou or Wei.
Interpretation
20. Determine if the chart is Cold, Hot, Dry or Wet with emphasis on the Month Branch. See the "Painting A Picture" article to help you to visualize the temperature and humidity of the elements in your original birth chart. If you do this exercise you can think like an artist and ask yourself: "What elements can I add to create a more pleasant and beautiful scene?" Those elements may be the favorable elements of the chart.
21. Determine the Strength or Weakness of the Day Master (Day Stem), based on the Month Branch, Roots and Fruits (Battery Connection), and My Gang versus the Opposite Gang.
22. Categorize the Strength and Weakness of the Day Master into 9 different levels.
23. Determine the Chart Type: Is it a Regular Chart Type or a Special Chart Type?
24. Determine the Favorable and Unfavorable Elements, Deities, Stems or Branches to the Day Master, based on steps 19, 20, 21 and 22.
25. Determine the Useful God based on the Day Master's Favorable and Unfavorable, Illness and Remedies, Temperature Adjustment, Enhancing, Weakening or Controlling, Mediating for Regular type charts. Determine the Useful God by following the Strong Intensity or the Weak Intensity for Special Type Charts.
26. Based on the Day Master's preference of favorable and unfavorable, we can see which Luck Pillar or Annual Pillars will have the favorable or unfavorable element, and thus we can see the luck Pillar trends for the chart.
27. To look into the ancestors, knowing if the year stem and the year branch are favorable or unfavorable to the Day Master will indicate the quality and influence of the ancestors. We also need to check if it is a missing branch for assistance and karma.
28. From the Month Pillar, we can see the parent and sibling relationship, level of influence, the karma, as well as childhood background.
29. From the Day Pillar, we can see the quality and character of the spouse, type of relationship, influence of and karma with the spouse.
30. From the Hour Pillar, we can see about the type of children you might produce; their qualities and character; their relationship with their parents; the influence your children will have on you and your karma with children. The Hour Stem represents the 1st child; the Hour Branch represents other children. The Hour Stem can also indicate career type by element and Deity.
31. Based on the location and distance of the Deities to the DM, presence or absence in the chart, we can look into the persons or subjects represented by the Deities, and their influence and karma to the DM.
32. Based on the strength and weakness of the Deities, we can look into the persons or subjects represented by the Deities, and their degree of influence or usefulness to the DM.
33. Based on the deities and their favorable or unfavorable relationships with the DM, we can see if each deity is of any advantage or disadvantage to the Day Master.
34. Based on the Combinations, Clashes, Penalties, or Break-ups between the Deities, we can see the relationship development and end results with the persons or subjects that the Deities represent.
35. Based on the Useful God, we can look into auspicious locations and directions for house facing, possible career choice and favorable colors.
36. Based on the element of the DM, we can identify the weakest links in the health system.
37. Based on the Day Pillar and the 60 Personality Profiles, we can look into the possible character of a person, as well as their strengths and weaknesses.
38. Look into other characteristics of the chart, Deities and their location in the chart, Special Chart's characteristics, the month branch, Combinations and Clashes.
39. Use the Helpful People, Missing/Void Branches, and in-tomb to give further analysis details on Luck period possibilities.
40. Interpret the Luck Pillars based on the chart balance after all the Combinations and Clashes.
41. Look at the relationship of the Luck Pillar's stem and branch to see if they strengthen or weaken the person.
42. Compare the Annual Pillar, Luck Pillar and the Natal Pillars to see the complete picture involving the DM, and also each individual Deity. Keep in mind that each Deity represents a person or subject related to the DM.
43. Analyze each luck period to see the childhood, adulthood, career, marriage, family children and retirement aspects of the chart.

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posted March 16, 2012 01:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lilithpluto     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
^^^^ WowowowowoWowowoW

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posted March 17, 2012 05:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lilithpluto     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The posts are disappearing.. Yawns...

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posted March 17, 2012 09:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Cynnared     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hmmmmmm. I am a Metal Pig with Snake Rising and a Dragon Moon. My Partner is a Double pig and I don't know his moon sign.

I have heard that a Pig with Snake Rising is good. Usually Pigs and Snakes need to avoid each other.

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