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Lucia23
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posted February 21, 2011 12:33 PM
  
On a different thread, someone with a Cancer Moon posted: quote:
I dont take relationships like everybody do..for me if im hurt once i will never again dare to venture into that arena no matter what.
It got me thinking about my own romantic struggles with a Cancer Moon. In my case, the Moon is conjunct Saturn in the 7th, and it feels at odds with my Leo Sun. I can really see how being with a Cancer Moon woman could feel heavy and burdensome because we get so clingy and overserious about relationships. Who WOULDN'T rather be with someone who's really fun, independent, adventurous, busy with her own life, and not at all clingy or needy? For me as a Cancer Moon, I'm like that only when I'm not in love with the guy. As soon as I'm all attached, I have to PRETEND to be those things (fun, independent, adventurous, busy with my own life). And a guy who's really worth it can tell the difference between real love and neediness or tests, he can tell the difference between me pretending. I see posts on these boards where someone is furious that some guy dated her for a couple of weeks and then decided he didn't want to Always Always Be With Her Forever and Ever and Never Ever Leave and Be Merged With Her in WAtery Closeness In the Living Room FOREVER--because they are Meant to Be because of Fate over Many Lifetimes. And the fiery part of me is like...Oh my god, I would flee from that person too! I hate that my Cancer Moon-Saturn takes romantic ups and down so hard, the way someone with a fun moon might take life and death. I wish I was more lighthearted in that area. I feel so happy with my Leo Sun! I LOVE it! But I think it's time to make peace with my crappy wet-blanket Moon. Maybe it's just that the 7th house is an icky placement for it, too. What are your experiences with Cancer Moon women? Or, as a Cancer Moon woman? IP: Logged |
Ami Anne
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posted February 21, 2011 12:52 PM
I love my Cancer moon.It is one of my favorite placements.
It is where the moon most wants to be so that in itself makes it good.
I think the key is to bring it out and put it away at the proper moments.
NOT EVERYONE DESERVES TO SEE IT.
This is what I have learned.
The other parts of your personality have to push away people who are bad for you.
Cancer moon is a gift to you and to others.
However,only show it to the people who deserve that gift.
It may be easier for me cuz I am a triple Gemini(Sun,Merc and Venus)
I am ,generally,light so my Cancer moon can be on the shelf when I need it to be.
I sense that you are wishing you had some lighter placements,Lucia.
Are you low on Air placements?------------------
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Lucia23
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posted February 21, 2011 01:08 PM
Yes Ami, I am way low on air! (Also, I have bad PMS right at this moment! Which makes my water feel heavier than usual, lol.  )My only air is Pluto...my most significant romantic connections so far have been with Air Sign men (with the exception of an Aries.) IP: Logged |
Lucia23
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posted February 21, 2011 01:10 PM
Ami, do you ever get clingy or obsessive? Or does your Gemini solar stellium lighten you out of those Cancer and 8th house tendencies?IP: Logged |
Ami Anne
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posted February 21, 2011 01:13 PM
OK, that makes sense,Lucia. You crave air.
Hmmmm
I am not sure what to say to that.
I have an earth void but I don't really miss it.
Yes, I can see what you are saying about the Air,Lucia.
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seeleah
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posted February 21, 2011 01:31 PM
Cancer moon 0 degrees 11th house.Um, have a love hate relationship with my moon. However I am not always so sure if it is because of it being cancer or that it is conjunct with Jupiter. I am emotional. Oh yeah...extremely. A cancer sun in the 12th doesn't help either. I love how it helps me with my artwork, to feel those deep deep feelings...sometimes there are joys in that... however, I tend to have pity parties for myself and I don't like it. Do guys think I get clingy..oh yeah in the past I have definately...but I have done alot of work, and when I see myself even remotely going down that road, I totally cut that person off for some reason, I back away. I am not sure exactly why..because I hate that trait in myself? or maybe it is my 7th house aqua. not sure. I know that my gemini venus actually helps with that more than hinders. its strange, now I am haivng a harder time with intimacy. but I will get there. IP: Logged |
Ami Anne
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posted February 21, 2011 01:42 PM
I don't usually feel very clingy.
It is prolly the Gemini.
I have so many interests that I always have something fun to do.
If a guy hurts me, I will cry.I will grieve.I will mourn but I will get over it.
That helps me not be excessively clingy,I think.------------------
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GrlyGirl20
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posted February 21, 2011 01:43 PM
I don't have a Cancer Moon...but I am a Cancer Sun/Asc and Mars (despite being in the 1st and all touching Jupiter and Uranus)...and it can be overwhelming. Plus I have a Cap Moon...sadly in the 7th. So I can be VERY clingy...but only when I care. When I don't I'm my super great 11th house Venus self...and really cool. I wish I took things less serious. It's hard. I know it takes me FOREVER to get over things when I actually do care. I remember I posted about a guy I dated for THREE months here...and its taken me forever to get over him...and we haven't spoken in almost a year. Plus he's an Aqua...so they are the WORST at that (he actually won't talk to me...nor even accept my request as a facebook friend...I can't help but admit that my overly emotional/clingy behavior permantely put a bad taste in his mouth when it comes to me). And his Moon touches my IC, and my Moon touched his AC...so that didn't help things. When I wouldn't let go my Cap Moon...and even Leo Mercury would say to myself to let go and lighten up. We just had fun...and if he really wanted to be with me he would have been. And then I admonished myself for being so freaking clingy and needy...and coming off as desperate. I typically solve this by backing away and letting go...and then letting the emotions fade to the point where I can be my super cool 11th house Venus. But I know I'll never get the chance with the Aqua (he's probably stuck in the mindset that I'm too emotional and clingy) and too much of a headache to deal with. But really me being clingy depends on the guy...some of my exes think I'm really cold (the Cap Moon)...others think I'm a really sweet and caring person (Cancer Sun)...and then others just see me as a good friend. I'm lucky that the clingy part only comes out every few years or so lol. That seems to be the only time my emotions are ever aroused that much haha. IP: Logged |
Ami Anne
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posted February 21, 2011 01:48 PM
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Lucia23
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posted February 21, 2011 01:55 PM
quote:
So I can be VERY clingy...but only when I care. When I don't I'm my super great 11th house Venus self...and really cool.
GrlyGirl, this is exactly like me...I'm really cool, fully my Leo Sun-Mercury self, as long as I don't care. So guys I'm not falling in love with can't get enough of me. In my case (because of Cancer Saturn conjunct Moon?) I try to hide the clingy feelings, so I get rejecting and defensive and cold sometimes. My ex who I was with for many years, who is still in love with me, believed my defenses. The guy who recently left me saw past the defenses and to him, my neediness felt like distance instead of love. It's part of why I lost him, I think it was a real turn-off. Because to him, the fact that I felt like I needed to be so self-protective made him feel like I didn't have faith in "us" and that I didn't think we could work as a couple. That resonated with me in what Rajji wrote--if we are defensive and not open to loving someone, and we need to put pressure on them to prove that we are safe BEFORE we open up--why wouldn't they rather just be with someone less heavy about all of it, and more fun? IP: Logged |
GrlyGirl20
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posted February 21, 2011 02:05 PM
"In my case (because of Cancer Saturn conjunct Moon?) I try to hide the clingy feelings, so I get rejecting and defensive and cold sometimes. My ex who I was with for many years, who is still in love with me, believed my defenses."I do the same thing with hiding the feelings behind a wall of coldness (due to my Cap Moon)...the bad part was the Aqua saw past that. With my Moon on his Asc he knew EXACTLY how I felt even before I verbalized it or felt it. So there really was no place to try to hide feelings. It was pretty much impossible. I think that with him I also held on too much...when he didn't want that (and in true Pisces Mercury fashion made excuses). I do get nostalgic about him not romantically but as a person...and the fact that I highly doubt I'll ever see him let alone talk to him again (he won't let that happen...and with good reason I suppose). I guess I can chuck these things up to a lesson learned. But it takes me a while to bounce back from being burned and knowing that you ruined a relationship on any terms (even speaking) so badly that someone doesn't even want to talk to you because you were so clingy. IP: Logged |
Lucia23
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posted February 21, 2011 02:07 PM
Yes, it's a horrible feeling to completely lose someone you love! Uggghhhh.I have Capricorn rising. IP: Logged |
Ami Anne
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posted February 21, 2011 02:11 PM
Dear Lucia
I think your hardship is with the Saturn conjunct the Cancer moon more than the Cancer moon, per se
Saturn messes up everything .
It is supposed to get better as we age.
I suppose it brings wisdom but not without tremendous struggle lol------------------
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Lucia23
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posted February 21, 2011 03:16 PM
It's complicated though, because Saturn is my chart ruler and I really LOVED my Saturn Return...I changed my life for the better in so many ways at that time.I can't tell whether my romantic trouble now is natal, or transits...I've had lots of tPluto-square-Pluto, tSaturn square Saturn, tPluto opposite Saturn, tSaturn conjunct Pluto sort of stuff going on too. IP: Logged |
EverEvolvingSpirit
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posted February 21, 2011 07:25 PM
I wish I understood about the transits and all that stuff  Great thread, Lucia! I can only say that 90% of what you put about your relationship experiences are mine also. Maybe it's a matter of quieting the Cancer moon with the Leo sun? After all, our sun is supposed to be strongest, no?
Sure doesn't feel like it :/ IP: Logged |
Lucia23
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posted February 21, 2011 07:33 PM
I'm 100% prime Leo in some areas of life, though.The Moon hits mostly in 7th house areas, where it lives in my chart (with Venus and Saturn). I wish I could make peace with it! IP: Logged |
EverEvolvingSpirit
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posted February 21, 2011 08:14 PM
Well, Linda says the more aware you are of you astrological make up, the easier it is to break from it's stereo types which is why non believers are always amazed when they read certain aspects of their chart.You are on your way, baby! I have to read up more on this stuff, really! I wish I was more knowledgable. Will start going to basic astro more often. IP: Logged |
rajji
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posted February 21, 2011 11:33 PM
Hello Lucia,
Strange im a cancer moon with a leo ascendant.
Moon is all about deep emotions which can help us to transform into a better person.
And Moon in cancer is exalted.
I dont consider Frivolity to be a part of mature relationships.
one should never stay in any situation just because you are afraid of being alone and missing out all the fun and frolic.
There are times in our life where you find in a situation that's a little bit different. There is no cheating; there are no drug dealers, no bruises, jealousy or rage.
What it is can best be categorized as what it's not: a relationship with any substance whatsoever.
A relationship without any substance is
Where you go day after day, saying I love you, cooking dinner together, watching movies together and going out to candlelit dinners on Valentines Day just because it's what you're supposed to do. You return to the spot you first met, or perhaps the place you went on your first date, hoping, expecting, or perhaps forcing feelings of romance, truth and deeper meaning into a situation that has none.
All im trying say is that you may need something more, something deeper and meaningful. Sometimes you may need to step out of your comfort zone to actually live. You need to be able to feel pain and discomfort to truly appreciate and value the good in your life.
So this cancer moon helps to figure out what is life in true sense and strips us of the state where happiness is illusionary.
And yes thats why i like this placement. IP: Logged |
EverEvolvingSpirit
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posted February 22, 2011 02:22 AM
Nicely stated, Rajjii!IP: Logged |
VenusDiSirius
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posted February 22, 2011 04:19 AM
Cancer Moon= Shakira & her lyrics.IP: Logged |
GrlyGirl20
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posted February 22, 2011 08:33 AM
"Great thread, Lucia! I can only say that 90% of what you put about your relationship experiences are mine also. Maybe it's a matter of quieting the Cancer moon with the Leo sun? After all, our sun is supposed to be strongest, no?
Sure doesn't feel like it :/"Well this is a yes and no...you're Sun in theory is the strongest Planet...HOWEVER the Moon is ALL unconscious and instinctual. We have no control over it. So basically anything that evokes an emotional response (and this varies depending on the Moon sign) is triggered by the Moon sign. This will often explain why you have someone like Lucia or me (I have a Cancer Sun and Cap Moon) where it seems like there are two entirely different people when it comes to some things. That's because in a sense there is. This is communicated by Mercury and acted upon or towards Mars. IP: Logged |
Ami Anne
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posted February 22, 2011 08:53 AM
Dear Lucia
I wrote a post in the thread in Soul Unions,too.
I think that this puzzle of Cancer moon conjunct Saturn in the 7th house has to be unraveled, by you .
That is what you are trying to do ,here.IP: Logged |
Ami Anne
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posted February 22, 2011 08:56 AM
If you look at the energies in this aspect,Lucia,I think you can find your answer.
The moon has Saturn on top of it making it feel burdened with weight and "heaviness"
It is not "free" to be the moon, our deepest heart.
It has a rock on top of it,if you will,in the form of Saturn.------------------
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Ami Anne
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posted February 22, 2011 08:59 AM
I have Saturn conj the ASC. Saturn REALLY pushes you down.I will say that.
It is a long climb to get any traction against Saturn.
However,with time, Saturn does relent. You find that all your struggles were not for naught.
You got wisdom along the way.
Keep looking in to this aspect,Lucia.
Keep trying to unravel the yarn that is this aspect.
You will find that you have gold hidden away under it,in time  ------------------
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Lucia23
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posted February 22, 2011 11:36 AM
I hope so, Ami!I loved my Saturn Return...I made all sorts of hard, important changes and my life is a lot better now because of them. And I like Saturn energy sometimes in my houses. I guess Saturn is just especially harsh and serious against a delicate, gentle water Moon. IP: Logged |
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