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Sweeter_Than_Apple_Pie
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posted March 02, 2011 12:16 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Sweeter_Than_Apple_Pie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What can one do to overcome Saturn in the 11th house ?

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posted March 02, 2011 12:40 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for CosmicKarma360     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted March 02, 2011 12:49 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lioness     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I dont have Saturn in my 11th but Cap rules my 11h house.. So its similar to having Saturn in the 11th. I also have my NN in the 11th so Im "suppose" to be part of some group (shrug)

I dont make friends easily either, finding it hard to connect with people.. I've isolated myself also..

IDK how to overcome it.. I guess you just have to force yourself via will power to get out and meet people.. Socialize more...

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posted March 02, 2011 02:41 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for staborgi     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Saturn isn't the worst thing in the world. I've learned that it just doesn't allow for superficiality. I have Capricorn on my 11th house cusp and conjunct my Venus in the 9th. I've never had a huge number of friends, true. When I was very young this used to make me very insecure, sometimes it still does. And I felt really insecure "socializing." With age I realized there was a reason I feel insecure socializing- it's because I get so much more real, grounded satisfaction out of connecting with a single person in a profound way. Because of this I get along with Saturn types and older people quite well. I'd keep a look out for solid grounded people, maybe even older ones, I have a feeling they are what you need in a friend!

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posted March 02, 2011 02:44 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for staborgi     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted March 02, 2011 04:36 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for racole12     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by CosmicKarma360:
Oh gosh!

Hope others have insight on this. I have Saturn in the 11th, and it hasn't been a summer's breeze, that's for sure. The most I've been able to come up with is accept that group are simply not me. I'm never going to be one of those people who will be involved in organizations and clubs. Instead, I try hard to find people that I 'click' with, and just steadily work on that.

Lately, I'm working very hard on not isolating myself. For the past six years, I've spent way too much time alone. Now I make it a point to at least do *something* twice a week. Like movies, hiking, that sort of thing.


I feel like this and I also have been isolating myself a lot since 2005 but I don't have Saturn in the 11th. My Saturn is in the 4th.

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posted March 02, 2011 11:56 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for CosmicKarma360     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted March 02, 2011 11:59 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for CosmicKarma360     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted March 02, 2011 02:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Doux Rêve     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I can relate to everything you guys said.
Saturn in the 11th is a real pain in the a$$.
I hate socializing. I almost never go out.
People find it weird, because I don't like clubs or whatever.
I can be anxious even with friends.
I like to be only with one person at a time, usually indoors.

I don't know if I'll ever be able to enjoy myself with others.
It seems like I'll always be a lone wolf.

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posted March 02, 2011 02:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Sweeter_Than_Apple_Pie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I do like going out but I'm embarrassed to say this but it's like I don't fit in people think I'm stuck up but I'm not

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posted March 02, 2011 03:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for CosmicKarma360     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted March 03, 2011 01:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Astra     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Quality, not quantity is important. It doesn't matter if you have 200 "friends" when you can't count on any of them to truly be there for you. Having just one friend who will stand by you no matter what is worth so much more than having hundreds of superficial friendships.

I like the suggestion about making friends with older people. They're usually not as superficial and will better match your maturity level. The key is to look for depth in friendships.

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posted March 03, 2011 04:06 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Sweeter_Than_Apple_Pie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Quality, not quantity is important. It doesn't matter if you have 200 "friends" when you can't count on any of them to truly be there for you. Having just one friend who will stand by you no matter what is worth so much more than having hundreds of superficial friendships.



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posted March 03, 2011 04:11 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you so much for being honest.Honesty does something to my soul like fresh clean hair after you have been in a smoky room.
I want to think about the thread and the posts and be back.
I have Saturn in Scorpio conjunct my ASC
Saturn messes with my Scorpio energy making it very hard to access.
Hence,my thread on Scorpio---Loved or hated

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He who controls his Spirit is greater than he who controls a city
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posted March 03, 2011 04:47 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for kama     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think the 11th house tells us something about our feeling how lovable we feel we are. Therefore it also has something to do with selfacceptance and faith. Having an issue with not feeling lovable comes from childhood of course and might influence our sociability.
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posted March 04, 2011 02:35 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Sweeter_Than_Apple_Pie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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I think the 11th house tells us something about our feeling how lovable we feel we are. Therefore it also has something to do with selfacceptance and faith. Having an issue with not feeling lovable comes from childhood of course and might influence our sociability.
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I never felt loved or wanted when I was a kid I'm an only child was always alone the only person who looked after me was my grand mother My mother never cared maybe it was her Sagittarius moon

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posted March 04, 2011 06:43 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for kama     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well, as you are sweeter than apple pie - you must really be sweet!!!! The trouble is that saturn is just your feeling about yourself, - maybe one issue could be to find friends you respect or who are authorities and through being accepted by them you get a feeling of selfvalue? Or maybe you should be a teacher to your friends? Maybe YOU are the authority?
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posted March 04, 2011 11:40 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Sweeter_Than_Apple_Pie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Capricorn on the 4th House Cusp makes it worse I guess

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posted March 04, 2011 12:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I really want to come back and write on this thread--pain about my Saturn in Scorpio conjunct my ASC.
I keep looking at the thread and walking away.
I guess,I write this as a way of getting up courage lol

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posted March 04, 2011 01:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for woodenrosary     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It breaks my heart reading all this stuff about issues with childhood, mothers, etc. Even though I myself sort of had these problems as well.

Sweeter Than Apple Pie ,
I have Venus Square Saturn(trouble giving/receiving love) and Saturn Trine Ascendant(super-isolationist aspect) so I can relate completely. I know it may feel like a curse, but there are actually TONS of people with unfavorable Saturn placements. Is it me or does Saturn in the chart never mean anything good? haha. I really like what staborgi said about just being on the look out for people like yourself, and people who are older than you. I'm still a teen but I can see that generations keep getting more and more... how do I say this... shallow? Superficial? It's hard enough to find people you click with when you're socially "normal", but when you're not the social type at all... oof. Indeed, it is tough.

Hang in there xox

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posted March 04, 2011 02:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 4lifephrases     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

Hi !

I had posted in this thread
http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum24/HTML/207382.html

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posted March 04, 2011 03:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 4lifephrases     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Kama: Thanks for what you said.

I know it is difficult guys but I think it can be done.

My childhood friends weren't many or let me say I had one close friend. My parents for long believed that they weren't good at socializing.They haven't got many family friends.So I had to encourage them to do same and make them understand necessity of it.

Yes, I taught as a teacher and it was a thrilling experience of lifetime.I do extremely good in
interactive seminars, classroom environments,office meetings,etc.My humor is
good in this environments. I have been told I can very easily be a stand up comedian.I look forward to networking sessions which is informative.I do event management and have to talk to people. Thus wedding celebration. It was daunting but then it is easy now.

Guys ! I really think that Saturn in 11th isn't where you say I suck at socializing so I am not going to do it. I don't like socializing. This is placement where I accept " Yes ! I would socialize so that I can find people who are reliable."
"OK! I am going to do smart socializing."
" I would love myself and I wouldn't compare how many friends I have."
"Developing relationships and friendships is hard work and I wouldn't expect instant results or would judge people so quickly."

I read some self help books and in fact gave it to people who felt same.I love socializing at this moment.Sometimes it is energy sucking experience but still I have been associated to some association and I look forward to see them now every month so that I can do my bit of "karma".

As I understand Saturn in 11th is that it is your duty to help others.I am doing it and I get immense satisfaction.Especially people in 11th house Saturn I feel we really need to start taking others help. You have no idea what groups can do for whatever you want to do.

I still have a difficulty in sustaining many friends but I guess so does everyone else considering present age lifestyles and less time.I am giving myself time to see who are my reliable friends- the people I can count on and if I can do my bit.

I am reconnecting with even my old school bullies or people who had groups.Facing fears.

I also believe where Saturn is where your money is as well. Or let's say I was tempting myself by it. I purposely was thrown into or was choosing Sales job where you have to be a people's person.

I had also spent time to know myself. I feel all the internal work has been done so I can do some external work.To be yourself despite getting pressure from the group is difficult.
It is still a challenge. But I guess different opinions are there anyways.

I feel there is so much more to do overall though.

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posted March 05, 2011 01:52 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Sweeter_Than_Apple_Pie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Kama: Thanks for what you said.

I know it is difficult guys but I think it can be done.

My childhood friends weren't many or let me say I had one close friend. My parents for long believed that they weren't good at socializing.They haven't got many family friends.So I had to encourage them to do same and make them understand necessity of it.


My parents were the opposite parties everyday going out everyday my mother talks to any one and everyone but I'm sure they only like her because of her money her fathers wealth and not for the person she is

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posted March 05, 2011 06:18 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Anemone     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Try Saturn on the 5th along with Neptune and Uranus - insane!! On the House of Romance nonetheless...
I guess its the same with Saturn on the 11th, only 11th house is relating to friendships/social interaction and 5th to personal relationships...I felt 'restricted'and guarded in those, and my Neptunian romanticism along with Uranian detachment - THE pain...do you have major aspects to Saturn????

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