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Topic: PLEASE help figure out cancer EX
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taru11 Newflake Posts: 22 From: Registered: Mar 2011
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posted March 16, 2011 11:59 AM
quote: Originally posted by RunAroundScreaming: I'm a cancer and cancers try to be good people and more than anything want to be considerate of other people's feelings. I think if she were done with you she would've told you straight out. The thing is even if we SAY we are done with you, that may not be for sure. Cancers always want to be friends with others and be on good terms. Even if it seems like she is abandoning you right now, trust me, give it a few years, she will come back. You must've done something to really hurt her. Just make sure to say sorry a looot when she decides to talk to you again. Also, that's not necessarily true about the sag mooners bc my best friend is a capricorn with a sag moon and aqua venus and mercury and she would never abandon me. And capricorns are just as loyal as cancers.
Thanks! See is abandoning me though. In the hardest time of me life she mad it harder for me when it didnt have to be like that. She not only ditched me, in a way, but she did so without even saying goodbye. Thats not caring about someone, thats selfish and immature. Thats why its so hard for me to figure out. Im happy that you keep saying that you think she will be back in due time though! But what is she going to just call me out of the blue after a few years? Is this something you cancers have done before?
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taru11 Newflake Posts: 22 From: Registered: Mar 2011
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posted March 16, 2011 12:08 PM
quote: Originally posted by JohnFKennedy: Maybe I'm being harsh - but it's so blatant that no matter how much she may or may not continue to love you, she does NOT want to talk to you right now. It sucks that she had to be so underhanded about it and not blatant with you, and I'm sorry you didn't receive the closure any person rightfully deserves when a relationship ends, but clearly the girl needs her space right now and does not want to think about the relationship - not only did she block you from seeing her wall and eventually unadd you, not only did her good friends unadd you, as well as her FAMILY members, but she's not responding to your emails. She is hurt and wants to be left alone, clearly.I feel for you dude, I really do. But you have to take a step back from the situation and your own feelings and realize that the situation is done for right now, and continuing to push when it's blatant she wants her space is only going to further ruin her opinion of you, in my opinion. I'm coming from a basic psychological/woman stand point right now and not an astrological one - however, if we must get into that - yeah, if she has a Sag moon, trust me. Once they've made their decision, there's no bringing them back until they feel like it again on their own accord, and that can take a while.
Thanks! You are not being harsh at all, i appreciate your sincerity. Thats why im hear. When she told me not to call her i never did again. I did happen to run into her and a bar about a month or so ago, and ago 3 months after we last spoke. She was coming of the dance from with a guy (i know its a good friend of hers but who knows if there are more now). She was shocked to see me and was kinda nervous (not in a bad way, like butterfly's). She kept repeating "so how are you how are you". Then she asked if a knew if she was going to be there. I just said no i had to idea. That seemed kind of arrogant on her part but who knows how she meant it. Then she asked who i was there with. I asked her if this was akward but her and she said no she was just hammered. I mean i guess it was good.I also said "OK, keep in touch". my friend said it looked very cordial. I dont know if is was a good thing that i went up to her or not but it happend so...just dont know what to make of it.... Again, 2 weeks after we officially ended things she deleted me from facebook and blocked me. So at that point i could still see pictures she was tagged in but i just could not click on her name. NOW, i cant even see her name. So, she did something else. I dont know knew but i think she did. I mean, is going up to an ex and saying hi weird? Like what does that do, me not seeing what picures she is tagged in? i can still she her face. I think she is going a bit to far and making me feel bad. She also could be trying to get a reaction out of me and testing me like you said. The girl is clearly has some type of feelings good or bad) becasue she is still reacting to everything soo...If she didnt she prob wouldnt do anything and wouldnt care. wtf?
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taru11 Newflake Posts: 22 From: Registered: Mar 2011
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posted March 16, 2011 12:21 PM
I know i have bigger fish to fry, and in regards to her there is simply nothing I can do, but id like to at least try to wrap my head around why she is still doing **** and where her heads at. IP: Logged |
taru11 Newflake Posts: 22 From: Registered: Mar 2011
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posted March 19, 2011 06:10 PM
whered you all go!IP: Logged |
RunAroundScreaming Knowflake Posts: 680 From: USA Registered: Oct 2010
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posted March 20, 2011 04:51 AM
I know right. I think everyone is away for spring break. I noticed people havent been on the forum as much. Did she look really sad and hurt when you saw her? Avoiding eye contact...and looking longingly or sadly into ur eye when she did make eye contact?IP: Logged |
taru11 Newflake Posts: 22 From: Registered: Mar 2011
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posted March 21, 2011 09:28 PM
yeah that sounds about right. I mean, she wasnt toooo sad. she was pretty upbeat. but the eye contact stuff yeah for sure. IP: Logged |
RunAroundScreaming Knowflake Posts: 680 From: USA Registered: Oct 2010
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posted March 22, 2011 01:08 AM
Yeah, she still cares about you. That's what I do try to seem upbeat but cant make eye contact when somebody has hurt me and I still care about them. Give her time. She'll come back in time.IP: Logged |
RunAroundScreaming Knowflake Posts: 680 From: USA Registered: Oct 2010
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posted March 22, 2011 03:20 AM
And yes i have texted or facebook messaged someone a long time after i was mad at them lolLike...3 years after IP: Logged |
taru11 Newflake Posts: 22 From: Registered: Mar 2011
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posted March 22, 2011 11:12 PM
WOW. I cant even imagine that. What did he/they do. So what and what happened during all that time of did you still wondering, care, or thing about him. That seems hard to connect with someone the same after so long. I suppose that you cancer folks can just bury and dig up feelings though huh.IP: Logged |
RunAroundScreaming Knowflake Posts: 680 From: USA Registered: Oct 2010
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posted March 23, 2011 12:05 AM
It was an aries guy friend of mine. He --edited-- so I just didn't talk to him again. We have really great chemistry ... like really great.... our conversations go at lightning pace because anything funny I say he easily has something funny to say in response and vice versa. After 3 years I felt bad and thought maybe he just has issues lol... Plus yes I did miss being his friend...he was so nice, such a good friend, and we got along so well, so I texted him. And i explained why i'd stopped talking to him all this time and he explained the reason he had done that was because he has a big crush on me and that after 3 years he now realizes he used to be really stupid with women, and he admits he is really shy so that's why he never said anything before. No, our conversations weren't awkward at all after 3 years, actually if anything, they are more entertaining now than before since both our senses of humor have gotten wittier throughout the years.IP: Logged |
taru11 Newflake Posts: 22 From: Registered: Mar 2011
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posted March 23, 2011 12:23 AM
well thats good to hear. I'm glad things worked out for you guys in the end. I guess my situation im a tad different though. Both of our first real relationship and first loves. Plus pretty much no real closure. A total mind fck for me at least. Thats why i was curious, to get somewhat of a feel of how you crabs/girls operate, and if im a fool for thinking there is still hope. IP: Logged |
RunAroundScreaming Knowflake Posts: 680 From: USA Registered: Oct 2010
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posted March 23, 2011 04:05 AM
Yeah yeah, of course. Well, no. It didn't work out too well for him unfortunately, since I don't like him in that way lol. But I don't think that ur being a fool for thinking she will come back. =0) If you really hurt her it will be hard for her to give you closureIP: Logged |
taru11 Newflake Posts: 22 From: Registered: Mar 2011
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posted March 24, 2011 01:00 PM
if she still cares about me or has feelings for me then why do you think she still continues to do weird useless things on facebook 3 months after we closed things off(see above posts). her insecurity's are making me insecure and idk what why she continues.IP: Logged |
taru11 Newflake Posts: 22 From: Registered: Mar 2011
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posted March 24, 2011 10:45 PM
also you think she will come back (if) with the same feelings or more of a friend like thing?IP: Logged |
RunAroundScreaming Knowflake Posts: 680 From: USA Registered: Oct 2010
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posted March 25, 2011 12:29 AM
She wants to show you how much you hurt her......If she didnt care about u she wouldnt care if u stared at her pics all day or not The fact that she tried to act happy when you said hi to her means she does want remain friendly towards you in her heart. Otherwise, she would've been very rude to you because cancers have difficulty being fake and if we're mad at you we cant hide it. The fact she thinks ur stalking her, since she asked if u followed her there also shows why she blocked u on fb. She thinks u will not leave her in peace if u werent blocked and she thinks this will hurt her more. To answer ur other question she will probably start out wabting to be friends first, and then she will slowly let things turn into dating since she was hurt. Cancers are needy and have passionate feelings and always wabt to forgive and keep the harmony and get along with everyone so i highly doubt she will ever truly get over you....
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taru11 Newflake Posts: 22 From: Registered: Mar 2011
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posted March 29, 2011 11:09 PM
quote: Originally posted by RunAroundScreaming: She wants to show you how much you hurt her......If she didnt care about u she wouldnt care if u stared at her pics all day or not The fact that she tried to act happy when you said hi to her means she does want remain friendly towards you in her heart. Otherwise, she would've been very rude to you because cancers have difficulty being fake and if we're mad at you we cant hide it. The fact she thinks ur stalking her, since she asked if u followed her there also shows why she blocked u on fb. She thinks u will not leave her in peace if u werent blocked and she thinks this will hurt her more. To answer ur other question she will probably start out wabting to be friends first, and then she will slowly let things turn into dating since she was hurt. Cancers are needy and have passionate feelings and always wabt to forgive and keep the harmony and get along with everyone so i highly doubt she will ever truly get over you....
Thanks again for keep helping me with this. I sort of dont get it though. If she wanted to show me how much she hurt me wouldn't she want me to see pics of her with other guys? Also, she didnt ask if I followed her there, she asked if i knew she would be there. She may be projecting. Because before that I did not see the girl for 5 months so she has no reason to think that I want anything to do with her. Also, if she happen to meet a guy this year that she liked would that pretty much take me right out of her mind and kill her feelings for me. IP: Logged |
RunAroundScreaming Knowflake Posts: 680 From: USA Registered: Oct 2010
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posted March 30, 2011 12:35 AM
depends on how good a synastry you had. Did u have good synastry and sun conjunct jupiter, sun conjunct or opposite venus, sun square opposite or conjunct pluto, venus trine pluto and/or venus and/or moon in the 1st with you in the composite? What did that look like. If u have a strong composite and she was with you i doubt she'd get over u that quickly.It does sound like she was projecting. But the fact that she made u sound like a stalker shows she thinks of u that way. As in she thinks you are a stalker and does not want u around right now. She is also totally rejecting you in telling u this---no regard for your feelings. But that doesnt mean that she will want nothing to do with u in the future. She thinks you are evil for now. She is probably going to talk to 30,000 people about this urging them to help her decide whether u really are evil or not, because like i said cancers cling to the past. And then once somebody convinces her that u are not she will come back lol. Or if u hurt her too much she will hope thay u say something first and try to get over you and maybe look lile she has gotten over you. So u should probably text her or something again in a year. Lol. IP: Logged |
littlecloud Moderator Posts: 856 From: Registered: Nov 2010
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posted April 03, 2011 12:21 PM
Dude. You are scaring her. You are stalking her and she wants you out of her life. That is why she deleted you of fb and why you can't even see tagged images of her. She asked if you knew she would be there because for some reason she thought you followed her. For her to think that YOU gave her some reason to, like stalking her fb. This is unhealthy behavior for both you and her. IP: Logged |
Geri Newflake Posts: 20 From: United Kingdom Registered: Jan 2011
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posted April 05, 2011 10:16 PM
I am sorry for bringing back this post again, even though it was by the past month but I felt strongly about responding to it because I am a Taurus myself and I really like a Cancer guy who does not feel the same way apparently so I just felt a bit sad reading that story. As for my opinion you are both young people and probably it is too hard for that girl to be with you since the arresting situation if it was really about something very serious. I do not think that she doesn't love you or doesn't care about you any more since she was the one to come to you and want to be with you for 6 months without giving up, so that tells me clearly she choose to be with you and she must have had strong feelings for you. deleting you off facebook and her friends deleting you too probably is to isolated herself from you because she is scared of what has happened and is self-protecting herself and the feeling of her being insecure about you is strong into her. I know that as a Taurus you must be a very loyal person and I think there is something emotionally special between a Taurus and a Cancer, we understand how each of us feel without saying it and it is what connects us I believe. I am really sorry that she is trying to cut you off her life. I feel sad about it. My advice is because I can sense you have strong feelings for her too, is just send her one last e-mail and write to her that you would not disturb her if her decision was to leave but that one last thing you wanted to tell her is that you are really sorry for what has happened and that you know you can not change things and that you would always remember that connection you had because it was something special and even if it ended you would always be thankful that it happened between the two of you as it was a great relationship and that you hope both of you would be happy in life. I think if it was me, I would do that and then I would try to move on. I am really sorry for that, I can feel you need time to move on, we Taurus are slow and take time, I liked one Scorpio guy and it took 3 years to move on but believe me once we do, we do not hold any strong feelings any more for the past, it remains just a memory and we never blame on anyone things didn't work out, so that time would come and you would be able to meet other nice girls I am sure. I am sorry if I made you feel sad, I feel sad myself a bit because I really like a Cancer guy I mentioned, he is really kind and polite to me but I sense he is not feeling the same way, even though I just try to enjoy the present and the time when I see him, talk to him and joke because I know that one day I am going to change the environment and it all would just remain a nice memory. I wish you all the best. IP: Logged |
RunAroundScreaming Knowflake Posts: 680 From: USA Registered: Oct 2010
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posted April 06, 2011 11:25 PM
I will say again that I think right now she definitely perceives you as a stalker. She thinks you will go psycho and try to stalk her. Have you done something stalkerish to make her think that? I say this bc the most obvious indication that she thinks that is not only that she had her family members delete you, but that she actually ASKED you if you were following her when you ran inti each other. She doesn't want you to think about her right now. So the worst thing you could do is make her think you're going psycho and stalkerish and holding grudges and trying to contact her. Act like you're completely fine with the situation and have moved on. This is how she feels right now, but that doesn't mean she wouldn't want to talk to you in the future. Like i said, you would have to wait at least 2 years. Wait for her to contact you, though. She will pull away if you contact her first. I think it will be a lot more consoling for you at this time to think that she hasn't completely abandoned you. Just give her time. Love is patient, love is kind
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taru11 Newflake Posts: 22 From: Registered: Mar 2011
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posted April 06, 2011 11:56 PM
Sorry kind of longish...This is the way I see it. The first mistake a made was getting in trouble. This only affected ME and the people who care about me. She is/was one of them. I broke her heart, I understand that. She was there for me for a bit and on a good page as far as being civil and mature. Like I said, when we went our “separate ways.” I did not know we would not talk every now and then. She did not hint at that nor set any grounds rules. I never called her and only sent two e-mails. One of which did not necessitate a response. The other did. I asked for her to simply please let me know what the deal is and what’s going on, and that I support her decision no matter what it is, just please make it clear (far longer). Her response was blocking her wall on facebook. This was a huge slap in the face to me after me being so understanding and asking one simple thing. To you, and others, this seemed clear that she was not ready/did not want to talk. Does that say you have no place in my life, that we are done? I didn’t think so. And even if that was the case, then that’s how you say goodbye? That’s closure? That was the first thing she did that portrayed the maturity of a middle school girl. HER INSECURETY. From there I made the mistake and trying to call her and figure out what that meant. I wrongly did not take the hint. I did not know that there was hostility to come. Then, she called back and essentially said that I have no place in her life and not to call her anymore. She did not say if I see you don’t say hi I don’t like you and don’t want to see you around. OK, so after that in my head I thought it was over. Unfortunately ready to move on. Then 2 weeks later all the deleting. This is when I start to get confused. What did I do wrong? Why so far after? What does that mean? If she did it the night of the break up I wouldn’t have thought twice. Why is she still doing weird stuff? 3 months later I see her at a bar and walk by her so I say HI. What would have been immature would be to walk but her and acted like a 10 year old. Are brains are clearly wired different in terms of time. To me, I have not spoken to her in 3 months or seen her in 6. So, how am I scary or being pushy? What bothers me is the she is assuming that I am still chasing her and doing things? On what basis does she have to think that? Because I said HI? And she is arrogant enough to ask if I knew she would be there? How? She is acted like I am a creep or a stalker for absolutely NO REASON. I simply said HI to a girl that I dated for a year, after I thought everything was over with. Then she does some other weird thing on facebook that really doesn’t make sense. Why? We have the same mutual friends, who go to the same parties, bars, events, and clubs. So now I have to feel like if I can’t go somewhere because if she is there she is going to think it is because of her? To me, it seems like she is the one not over it. Even me saying HI to her at the bar without mentioning her being weird with all the facebook stuff would indicate to her that It didn’t care and im over it. Seeing her coming off the dance floor with another guy and me not caring at all should say that im over it. I asked for no response. you feel me? ahaha IP: Logged |
RunAroundScreaming Knowflake Posts: 680 From: USA Registered: Oct 2010
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posted April 07, 2011 12:33 AM
I will say again that I think right now she definitely perceives you as a stalker. She thinks you will go psycho and try to stalk her. Have you done something stalkerish to make her think that? I say this bc the most obvious indication that she thinks that is not only that she had her family members delete you, but that she actually ASKED you if you were following her when you ran inti each other. She doesn't want you to think about her right now. So the worst thing you could do is make her think you're going psycho and stalkerish and holding grudges and trying to contact her. Act like you're completely fine with the situation and have moved on. This is how she feels right now, but that doesn't mean she wouldn't want to talk to you in the future. Like i said, you would have to wait at least 2 years. Wait for her to contact you, though. She will pull away if you contact her first. I think it will be a lot more consoling for you at this time to think that she hasn't completely abandoned you. Just give her time. Love is patient, love is kind
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taru11 Newflake Posts: 22 From: Registered: Mar 2011
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posted April 07, 2011 12:39 AM
i understand that. and I responded.IP: Logged |
bethcarliseh Knowflake Posts: 52 From: Ontario Canada Registered: Mar 2011
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posted April 07, 2011 01:04 AM
shes scared of you now. It won't leave her mind but I don't know important staying with you is over her anxiety. IP: Logged |
taru11 Newflake Posts: 22 From: Registered: Mar 2011
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posted April 07, 2011 10:37 PM
yeah, i get it i just have no idea why. have not spoken to her in 5 months and have not seen her in 7 months (aside from when i saw her) how the **** could she first off think that I am into her and how the F could she think i am keeping tabs on her. Cancers, make things up in there heads?IP: Logged |