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starfox
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posted March 14, 2011 09:02 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for starfox     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
"This has been an ongoing theme in all of my relationships. My venus in aquarius often makes it hard for me to settle down. But when I do, my cancer moon and cappie sun makes me extremely loyal. I've literally stayed in relationships where I felt resentful and almost hating the person. But not wanting to leave because I didn't want them to think I gave up on "us" and because I didn't wanna have to admit to myself that it wasn't working."


Yep, Venus in Aquarius here too, with Taurus moon,I should have split with that person months ago & yet I kept holding on hoping it would improve one day. but it didn't.

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GrlyGirl20
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posted March 14, 2011 09:39 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for GrlyGirl20     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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This has been an ongoing theme in all of my relationships. My venus in aquarius often makes it hard for me to settle down. But when I do, my cancer moon and cappie sun makes me extremely loyal. I've literally stayed in relationships where I felt resentful and almost hating the person. But not wanting to leave because I didn't want them to think I gave up on "us" and because I didn't wanna have to admit to myself that it wasn't working

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Yep, Venus in Aquarius here too, with Taurus moon,I should have split with that person months ago & yet I kept holding on hoping it would improve one day. but it didn't

I'm a Taurus Venus in the 11th house (which is like a Square due to it being in its natural sign), and I'm more uranian than I want to admit. But my Venus in the 11th makes it VERY difficult for me to settle down. I have my Moon in the 7th so I'm in relationships ALL the time...however really falling for another is difficult. And then getting into the acutal relationship is hard. I'm uncomfortable with actually being someone's girlfriend. Anyway it is very rare that I am into someone...but when I am and I commit (at least truly commit rather than just date for the sake of it) its pretty permanent. I hate to give up...in fact I'll try to exhaust all possibilities before I give up (this is even in friendships). And I'll admit I've stayed with relationships (even friends) when I should have just given up and walked away. But I hate the idea of just bailing on something or someone, because I know at the end of the day I would want someone to keep trying with me.

I do agree that marriage for me will be horrible, in that I'll keep trying as much as possible to make things work but someone will just stop. And then it will take me FOREVER to get over someone. I have an Aqua ex who had a Venus in Cap and Cap Rising...and I used to tell him all the time that he was the one who stopped trying and caring. His Virgo Moon would see no point in trying if there is no end result.

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A close friend of mine is a Capricorn sun and what I notice is she tends to expect people to behave in a certain way and when they (eventually) don't, she becomes disappointed in them. It probably doesn't help that she can't read people well, she's stubborn and one of the most pessimistic people I know (she always insists she's a realist but I gotta lol). She expects too much of people, she forgets no one is infallible and, above of all, that she isn't infallible either.

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And that's one of the lessons in life I have learned. Not to have expectations or at least keep them to a minimum so that I can't be disappointed. I'll let you all know how that works out for me in the future...lol

I agree with these above comments as well. I will admit that I am pretty exacting about the types of behavior I expect from people. I hold others in high regard, but I also hold myself in high regard. And when I don't meet those expections (along with others) I get disappointed. I also am the queen of expecting the worst and hoping for the best. I've heard this mantra from quite a few Cappy influenced people (two Sun in Cap people, and one Venus in Cap person). I think for me it is easier because if I just expect the worst I'm never disappointed in how a situation or someone turns out if things go south. Plus I think its a honor thing...like if things go bad or someone hurts me...its like see you didn't prove me wrong and you ended up hurting me or bailing anyway.

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cappy1277
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posted March 14, 2011 10:43 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for cappy1277     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
well said grlygirl20...

thats my mantra as well. sounds so pessimistic but hey! that's how us cappies are...lol!

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shedevil77
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posted March 14, 2011 12:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for shedevil77     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by JohnFKennedy:
Whoa, shedevil77, would you mind expanding on your view of relationships a little bit more? I'm currently dating a Capricorn sun/Cancer moon/Venus in Aquarius.

He was in a relationship for 3 years, and EVERYONE thought they were going to get married, their families loved each other, they would throw parties for the couple together, etc. But one day he just brutually left her, and it was obvious that resentment had built up for the longest time that all that adoration turned into a long standing hatred, and he hasn't been in a relationship since!

I feel that being ruled by Saturn is such a burden for Capricorn folks. That is a planet with very little mercy and rarely does it offer any down time for some fun unless you got some significant fire in your chart. It really is a tireless sign in every sense of the word.


YES! I cant even begin to explain the fear i have that my next relationship will turn out this way!
Like i said the Capricorn Sun and Cancer Asc makes me an Extremely Loyal partner( Leo Moon, Scorpio Mars). Almost so loyal to the point where i change things about myself to please the other person and 90% of the time i dont even realize im doing it. Then All of a sudden out of nowhere it seems like my venus in aqua starts to resent being so constrained, i begin to resent the person for not accepting me as me, or not giving me enough freedom, etc. i literately feel as if the the relationship is suffocating me (i've almost had panic attacks bcuz of this, or maybe im just being dramatic lol leo moon ya kno). and i have to bail, right then and there, this is going to sound contradictory so try to understand: though i will stay committed for a very long time and try fix a relationship that is beyond repair, i am VERY impulsive when i have made the decision to leave. I Will 9 times out of ten leave that day. and once i have left it is impossible for me to go back. When my Aqua Venus wants to be heard SHE IS.

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RunAroundScreaming
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posted March 14, 2011 02:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for RunAroundScreaming     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I dont think it depends much on the synastry or composite. I think it depends on someone's natal chart, because if someone is loyal they will be loyal to everyone even if the relationship is not working out as planned. If they're not, they will find it difficult to be loyal to anyone just the same.

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GrlyGirl20
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posted March 14, 2011 04:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for GrlyGirl20     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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YES! I cant even begin to explain the fear i have that my next relationship will turn out this way!
Like i said the Capricorn Sun and Cancer Asc makes me an Extremely Loyal partner( Leo Moon, Scorpio Mars). Almost so loyal to the point where i change things about myself to please the other person and 90% of the time i dont even realize im doing it. Then All of a sudden out of nowhere it seems like my venus in aqua starts to resent being so constrained, i begin to resent the person for not accepting me as me, or not giving me enough freedom, etc. i literately feel as if the the relationship is suffocating me (i've almost had panic attacks bcuz of this, or maybe im just being dramatic lol leo moon ya kno). and i have to bail, right then and there, this is going to sound contradictory so try to understand: though i will stay committed for a very long time and try fix a relationship that is beyond repair, i am VERY impulsive when i have made the decision to leave. I Will 9 times out of ten leave that day. and once i have left it is impossible for me to go back. When my Aqua Venus wants to be heard SHE IS.

I am the same way...BUT I'm ONLY that way when I am working and trying at the relationship and being there...and the other person isn't appreciating me or trying anymore. I'll stay and try and try and try to fix things...but then I get to a point where I am just over it and I leave. I feel constrained early but I'll still stick with things. Being constrained isn't so much horrible as I express myself and tell the other whats wrong going on with me. I have had this happen to me a few times. Where the person just takes and takes and takes and they don't appreciate me or even really seem like they care (the Aqua did this). It also is very difficult if not downright impossible for me to go back either (blame that for my Venus in the 11th). However once my resentfulness is gone I can indeed be your friend lol.

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He was in a relationship for 3 years, and EVERYONE thought they were going to get married, their families loved each other, they would throw parties for the couple together, etc. But one day he just brutually left her, and it was obvious that resentment had built up for the longest time that all that adoration turned into a long standing hatred, and he hasn't been in a relationship since!

I'm willing to bet you he didn't brutally leave her. Caps don't do that...in fact I'm willing to bet you that he was straightforward with her and told her what was up and the problems he had with her and the relationship. I'm willing to bet that she didn't try and maybe treated him like she knew he wouldn't leave her. And so he left.

Shedevil...I saw your reply...you are straightforward with the people in your relationships right? I mean you just don't leave without telling them what they did wrong and the problems you had with the relationship prior right? As in you told them you had an issue and you wanted to work on it and you left because they didn't change and still treated you like crap...basically I'm asking if you do that.

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taurus77
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posted March 14, 2011 05:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for taurus77     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
once you are proven as a real friend they will never betray you
from my experience
cap moon here

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venuscorpio86
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posted March 16, 2011 05:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for venuscorpio86     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
wow all interesting insight...I was seeing a sun cap man, venus in aquarius and mars in pisces moon pisces and he was so hard to figure out, sometimes he made me feel like a queen, other times like I didn't matter. He was a complete gentleman but I felt his wasn't honest about his feelings since sometimes he was so detached. I pushed him away by being consuming digging for answers and no answer he gave me made me happy =( when he spoke it sounded like it did come from th heart though...I care for this man and hope one day we can find a way to reconcile...I mean we went 4 months without talking and then reunited only to have a fallout last week

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RunAroundScreaming
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posted March 16, 2011 05:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for RunAroundScreaming     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yeah earth signs are like that----hard for them to show their emotions, and you could many times, easily assume that they don't care about you at all. Even an earth sign could easily think a friend who is also an earth sign doesnt care much about them because that's how they act---they can even confuse each other amongst their own element cuz they're so good at it (running away from their emotions/detachment/denial whatever u wanna call it) Lol.

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