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Topic: 'Really bitchy, really false'...what sign/natal chart aspects does she have?
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Astra Knowflake Posts: 741 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted March 23, 2011 11:18 PM
The bitchiest and most fake person I ever knew was a Sag Sun/Cancer Moon. She had venus in Scorpio and moon opposite neptune.I am NOT saying that anyone with these placements would be an automatic ***** , but I think her immaturity did not allow her to handle these placements well. She displayed nearly all of the negative traits of these signs and placements. IP: Logged |
KingTaurus2104 Knowflake Posts: 184 From: Registered: Oct 2010
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posted March 24, 2011 12:23 PM
quote: Originally posted by amowls**: Sounds like a synastry problem.For every person that you think is a b*tch, someone else thinks they're the best. "B*tchy and fake" are just very general insults, aimed anyone that you happen to dislike.
FFS, I DON'T DISLIKE THIS PERSON!! I DO LIKE THEM, I GET ON VERY WELL WITH THEM. HOWEVER, SOMEONE DESCRIBED THAT WAY!? Therefore I want to ask a question about it. So once again, don't judge my life!! IP: Logged |
crabbypatty Knowflake Posts: 822 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted March 24, 2011 02:27 PM
I second what amowls said, exactly, to the letter. That happens a lot on this forum!!!Bitchy and fake mean different things to different people, and different people respond differently to the same person. Having said that, I agree that it is in the aspects, and not the sun sign, that one would most likely find a tendency to be sharp-tongued, or conniving, or whatever. IP: Logged |
amowls** Knowflake Posts: 1948 From: Registered: Dec 2010
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posted March 24, 2011 02:58 PM
Lol I wasn't making a judgment on your life, I was merely answering your question. "You" = people in general not YOU personally.IP: Logged |
nordicsoul Knowflake Posts: 858 From: Registered: Oct 2010
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posted March 25, 2011 11:09 AM
quote: Originally posted by blugrey: The best way I can say it is that I always believe 100% whatever I'm saying at that moment. But the next moment I could 100% believe something totally opposite if I've embraced a new way of thinking. lol But I'm always sincere in the moment. People don't seem to get this about us though...
that means that you change your mind. it does not make you bitchy or any other qualities mentioned in the thread. IP: Logged |
feitlebaum Knowflake Posts: 113 From: AZ Registered: Jan 2011
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posted March 25, 2011 12:17 PM
Ummm... I have a couple ex friends like that... surprisingly not Geminis. Aires-Pisces cusp/Scorpio moon/Cancer and I don't really know about the other girl except that she is a Libra-Scorpio cusp/Virgo moon. Now this girl is messed up and I want to look at her chart, but I am not on good terms with her at all. There are so many Gemini's in my life, I wouldn't call them any of them fake. IP: Logged |
Betty Boop Knowflake Posts: 3377 From: Betty Boop Land Registered: Sep 2010
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posted March 25, 2011 04:31 PM
blugrey -- I get you. Do you have a Pisces Mercury -- or Mercury in aspect to Uranus?
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cupcakes Knowflake Posts: 78 From: USA Registered: Mar 2011
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posted March 27, 2011 02:52 PM
Gemini Moons. I know three people who have this placement and it includes myself. I think the stereotype about being a two face is true. We're not fake about it, but we'll have some crazy mood swings and a quick change of opinion. All the signs are different as well. Cap/Pieces/Gemini with a Gemini moon and we all have quite the bratty attitude. I wonder what that is, lol.IP: Logged |
teasel Knowflake Posts: 7613 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted March 27, 2011 03:49 PM
My opinion can fluctuate, based on what I learn/view, but this person meant two-faced as in backstabbing... not the case for me. I have trouble hiding what I'm feeling, and can't be nice to someone when I'm not feeling it. IP: Logged |
blugrey Knowflake Posts: 1006 From: Nowhere Registered: Nov 2010
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posted March 27, 2011 04:31 PM
quote: Originally posted by Betty Boop: blugrey -- I get you. Do you have a Pisces Mercury -- or Mercury in aspect to Uranus?
I have Merc in Gemini inconjunct Uranus in Capricorn in the 9th. It's also conjunct my sun in the 1st house. IP: Logged |
StJake Knowflake Posts: 48 From: Registered: Dec 2010
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posted March 28, 2011 01:58 AM
quote: Originally posted by KingTaurus2104: This is only your opinion, but when hearing of someone being 'really bitchy, false and trys to be like someone else' what signs/planetery aspects would you expect to see??
Poor aspects to Neptune (false, acting like someone else) - harsh angles between mercury and mars or mercury and Saturn in air signs - mercury combust sun/saturn with sun/saturn in harsh aspect to mars - planets lurking (slow/stationed/rx/recovering) in earth signs or transiting midpoints in fire signs - 2nd & 3rd house afflictions, keep an eye on reflected energies from the 8th & 9th houses - materialistic complaints can often manifest as mars or venus in harsh aspect or under attach from 10th house or Saturn - relationship complaints and fights with friends look at 1st, 7th and 11th house afflictions - bitchiness about work 6th and 10th - general complaints about bad luck or "No Fair!", 5th house - family complaints 4th house (parent of opposite gender 10th**) - perceived moral outrage could fall to 1st, 9th, 12th. North node can indicate specific stress points the client may react poorly too - nodes are karmic and touch some deep juju... depends on how far along their journey they are when you do the reading. If a transit is at a critical point, you may want to look at the return chart for that planet for additional information on the specific cycle. Remember when you look at houses, keep an eye on their rulers. Houses are where progressed and transit energies manifest. [if you are paying close attention, that's all the houses and every major planetary influence. *grin*] ** There's a lot of debate about which house rules which parent. I look at both of them then ask the client "Which parent best fits this description...?" IP: Logged |
Desiring Shadows Knowflake Posts: 3033 From: UNITED STATES, BABY Registered: Jan 2012
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posted December 04, 2015 02:10 PM
What I learned is; keep on your toes with a somewhat fake refined perfect personality to attract admirers.. Then when they become closer to you become your real self When you are your ugly self it's easier for people to understand and relate to youExcept for with looks,always be beautiful  IP: Logged |
Desiring Shadows Knowflake Posts: 3033 From: UNITED STATES, BABY Registered: Jan 2012
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posted December 04, 2015 02:13 PM
Gemini is changeable so they can come across falseVirgo with Leo planets is bitchy ans mean and rude !!! IP: Logged |
4lifephrases Knowflake Posts: 544 From: London, United Kingdom Registered: Nov 2010
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posted December 04, 2015 02:20 PM
Just from number of posts ...GEEEEMIIINNIII...Sorry ! there is no flames without some fire....2 Faced..My scoprio sun finds it annoying as hell as I also have Sag Asc. I am really not adding to this thread except bitchiness...lol... IP: Logged |
bananaz Knowflake Posts: 305 From: Orlando, FL USA Registered: Feb 2015
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posted December 04, 2015 03:00 PM
As one of the biggest Saggy lovers (my husband is a Sag) I have to admit some of the fakest people I knew (especially girls) were Sag dominated.It makes sense because the Sag part wants so much to be perfect, and sometimes that means altering reality. Interesting fact: Kim K has Sag rising. Bitchiest? Aries, hands down. I have Aries rising, so I feel like I'm safe here. Thankfully, I have more Pisces influences because I couldn't imagine having an Aries dominated chart. They can flip out at the drop of a hat. That angry Mars energy is just waiting there below the surface to explode. And they know how to press buttons better than anyone I know. Ever see someone throw a tantrum and break stuff? Probably an Aries. (Sorry, still love you all my Aries buddies!) Now if we're talking Bitchy as in Two-faced, yes we must give it up to Gemini. Lol. Bitchy as in conniving/ backstabbing? That one goes to Scorpio. Bitchy as in Moody? This is a Cancer.
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Spongebob Knowflake Posts: 49 From: Registered: Nov 2015
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posted December 04, 2015 03:01 PM
Could be a synastry thing too. Some peoples charts just don't mesh well. They may view the other person negatively then.IP: Logged |
hannaramaa Moderator Posts: 10728 From: Registered: Nov 2011
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posted December 04, 2015 03:14 PM
In addition to labeling whomever as bitchy, why noy post our sign placements so others can get an idea of how the "bitchy" one is being perceived? However...I'm a quadruple Aries with Gemini ASC and Mars in Gemini, and a Taurus moon. At my worst I start fights on purpose just to get rid of the energy that's culminating. Most of the time this just comes in annoyance to people I feel are manipulating me to get something be it sympathy or some kind of emotional response. Or their arguments are not concrete, even if those don't affect me. I've found by working on my communication skills and learning how to assert myself or be open about what bothers me (different than being simply opinionated) that there's not as much of that nagging to pick fights. I've been called wishy-washy by Sag and fire dominated people, and fake by Scorpio / Capricorn people. *shrug.* Not everyone gets me, and I think my Moon / Pluto is okay with that. 😊 IP: Logged |
bananaz Knowflake Posts: 305 From: Orlando, FL USA Registered: Feb 2015
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posted December 04, 2015 03:33 PM
quote: Originally posted by hannaramaa: In addition to labeling whomever as bitchy, why noy post our sign placements so others can get an idea of how the "bitchy" one is being perceived? However...I'm a quadruple Aries with Gemini ASC and Mars in Gemini, and a Taurus moon. At my worst I start fights on purpose just to get rid of the energy that's culminating. Most of the time this just comes in annoyance to people I feel are manipulating me to get something be it sympathy or some kind of emotional response. Or their arguments are not concrete, even if those don't affect me. I've found by working on my communication skills and learning how to assert myself or be open about what bothers me (different than being simply opinionated) that there's not as much of that nagging to pick fights. I've been called wishy-washy by Sag and fire dominated people, and fake by Scorpio / Capricorn people. *shrug.* Not everyone gets me, and I think my Moon / Pluto is okay with that. 😊
Totally get what you mean about needing to release the energy! You need some sort of outlet with all that Aries energy. I have a theory that Fire signs in general should cry more just to let it out, you know? My chart is about half fire/ half water, with just a smidge of Earth and there's something healing about a good cry followed by a cool glass of water. Weird right? I need to touch or drink something cold after crying and I think this has something to do with the fire energy building up/exploding and the water energy trying to drown it out. I also used to pick arguments until I noticed other people doing it to me. It's never fair to explode on someone else. Vent, yes. And I've noticed the best people for this are usually Earth signs because they're good at keeping you grounded. IP: Logged |
StubbornVirgo Knowflake Posts: 284 From: Sittin' on Mercury Registered: Jul 2015
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posted December 04, 2015 03:42 PM
quote: Originally posted by KingTaurus2104: This is only your opinion, but when hearing of someone being 'really bitchy, false and trys to be like someone else' what signs/planetery aspects would you expect to see??
I'm assuming we're talking about females here. Bitchy? Aquarius. I've met many Aquarius Suns who could not keep steady friends because of this. I know plenty of Aqua Suns who are not this way, so clearly there's probably something else at work in their chart. False and tries to be someone else? Sorry Libras, but your sign comes to mind. I've known many Libra Suns who had no idea who they were. Their opinion changed with the wind direction, but more likely than not, it changed depending on who was in their presence at the moment. They always seem to copy their partner's lifestyle/beliefs/whatever, even if contradicts who they really are. Come to think of it, the Libra Suns I haven't gotten along with have all been born around the same time as me, which would mean that their Libra placements might square their generational planets in Capricorn. Maybe Neptune squares could cause this? I knew a female Sag Sun/Libra Moon/Cancer rising who had no idea who she was, either. She could be sincere with a person in one moment, but then turn around and trash talk them the very next. I was never sure which side of her personality I was going to get. She also molded her personality to whoever was around her. Since it was suggested, my placements: Sun/Mercury/Venus in Virgo/7th house Moon/Mars in Gemini/4th house Aqua ASC IP: Logged |
Gemini Blues Knowflake Posts: 910 From: The future... or the past. I get them confused... Registered: May 2014
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posted December 04, 2015 04:04 PM
quote: Originally posted by Ami Anne: Gemini is a light sign .That is prolly where it gets it's bad rap. It does not have deep,heartfelt feelings. but is rather superficial. I am fortunate in that I have always been a deep person. I can seem superficial when you first meet me but you will be surprised by my depth within a short time. I have a Scorp ASC,Pluto on the MC and an 8th house stellium I have a Cancer moon and Saturn conjunct the ASCI would not want to be a Gemini without compensating placements for depth lol
Our charts have got to be close. I'm Scorp Asc, 8th house Gemini Sun and Mercury, 9th house Venus (early Cancer) Leo Moon too iirc yours... IP: Logged |
Selenite Knowflake Posts: 901 From: Lyra Registered: Aug 2013
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posted December 04, 2015 04:08 PM
quote: Originally posted by Astra: The bitchiest and most fake person I ever knew was a Sag Sun/Cancer Moon. She had venus in Scorpio and moon opposite neptune.I am NOT saying that anyone with these placements would be an automatic ***** , but I think her immaturity did not allow her to handle these placements well. She displayed nearly all of the negative traits of these signs and placements.
This would be me, except I have an Aries Moon squared to Neptune. I sort of sense this same perception coming from others sometimes. (Though I think people who call others fake and bitchy are usually projecting, themselves. ) It's true, I was a rampant psycho growing up. But I didn't take to lashing out against people or being outwardly bitchy.. most of the time. I was, however, focused intensely on myself and hurt people in the process with my insensitivity and with my impulsive decision-making. Also, I wouldn't say I was fake, because that would've made me less 'bitchy.' I might have seemed fake to some, because I can have fun and be sincere with anyone, but that doesn't mean I'm going to stick around or be there emotionally for them.. :v It doesn't mean I like or respect them, either. I'm good at compartmentalizing, when I have to be. Nowadays, I'm less destructively impulsive, and I care more about how I make others feel.. and by that I mean I just avoid engaging myself with especially sensitive people, or most people for that matter. *shrug* It seems to be working for me.  IP: Logged |
Gemini Blues Knowflake Posts: 910 From: The future... or the past. I get them confused... Registered: May 2014
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posted December 04, 2015 04:15 PM
As to the topic at hand, in a world full of brooding Scorpios, nagging Virgos, worrying Cancers, and self-doubting Capricorns, Gemini is a cool breeze of rational thought and an oasis of occasional whimsy.IP: Logged |