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Lucia23
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posted March 28, 2011 08:46 PM
  
Do you use Lunar Returns to predict what will happen each month? Do you use them to strategize, or just to feel prepared?What are some of your favourite secrets for accurately reading a Lunar Return chart? IP: Logged |
Lucia23
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posted March 29, 2011 01:01 AM
I've been trying to practice by keeping a file with notes on what I think might happen during the month, based on transits + L.R. Last month was very accurate, this month not so much, so far.IP: Logged |
staborgi
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posted March 29, 2011 01:19 AM
actually I've been using them a lot with name asteroids. I find this tends to help "locate" things in my lunar chart. It can get a little murky though because as I understand, Lunar returns are primarily reflective of your emotional state that month, so I've found that house placements don't necessarily indicate or translate to concrete events. Using name asteroids does kind of help though if you're trying to figure out maybe how your boss or significant other is gonna make you feel that month, for example. I'd like to hear people's thoughts on this, so far its been pretty accurate (looking back in retrospect anyway) for me and I wanna learn more!IP: Logged |
Lucia23
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posted March 29, 2011 01:54 AM
Staborgi, do you use Mars Returns to get a handle on more concrete/external events?I'm going to try this with name asteroids--what a great idea!! IP: Logged |
bonadea33
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posted March 29, 2011 05:11 AM
I print every month my Lunar Return just to see, what will go on: the next month. Until now, nothing was right. Maybe I am not good enough to explain LR. From other side I believe in Solar, Mercury and Venus Return. B. ------------------
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Lucia23
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posted March 29, 2011 11:42 AM
Bonadea, do you use Solar, Mercury, and Venus return each for something different?I'm looking for ways to start learning to predict external events more than internal/emotional. Last night I started trying to look over my Mars return (mixed with transits and progressions), but I didn't get too far. What are some tricks and secrets for reading Mercury or Venus returns? IP: Logged |
staborgi
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posted March 30, 2011 03:44 PM
I haven't used Mars returns no....the only I've really used were Venus returns and I honestly don't get much out of them unless something is going on on the angles- this seems to translate into a concrete event...probably true for Lunars too although I haven't really confirmed that. Progressions I think are probably the best indicator of events from what I've read. I once did a reading with someone of my progressed chart and she told me I'd have two opportunities for romance and she told me exactly when and both came true! She also was able to tell me that I'd get involved with someone erratic by looking at my progressed Sun which is currently conjunct prog. Uranus and also conjunct my own Venus/Uranus when overlayed onto my natal. I'm much less experienced with those- but I do remember reading that quincunxes particularly involving Chiron (this was in the context of progressions though, but it might be interesting to check with Lunars) can be indicators of actual events. Chiron is supposed to be a bridge to the real world and quincunxes are an aspect of adjustment so I guess it makes sense!IP: Logged |
vertiver
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posted March 31, 2011 02:21 AM
Lunar Returns only reflect emotional states, but I've noticed that the ASC. of every LR sets the theme of the month. Also planets that are conjunct the Moon, reflect the emotional state even more. My Lunar Return is happening in about 30 min. at the moment and T. Venus is conjunct the Moon along with Chiron and Neptune once it moves into Pisces... IP: Logged |
vertiver
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posted March 31, 2011 02:30 AM
Ex. Last LR on 3/3, the ASC. was Virgo, I became a full-on vegan around then, and LR Moon was conjunct the DESC. and the guy I was seeing offically asked me to be his girlfriend. Also T. Mars was conjunct LR Moon, which meant that I was spending more time with men and just being more active and going out almost every night.  IP: Logged |
Lucia23
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posted March 31, 2011 03:30 AM
Was it a very happily romantic month in terms of your mood, Vertiver? The bf who asked you to be 'official' is someone you like too?IP: Logged |
bonadea33
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posted March 31, 2011 05:31 AM
Lucia23,Sorry, I didn't see your question. What about Mercury and Venus Return? Mercury is more about learning something new, moving somewhere, getting new job or starting new hobby. By Mercury Return is important, where Mercury ASC falls (in Natal Chart house); ruler of Mercury ASC; ruler of MR MC, where it falls and Mercury aspects. (I have explanation of my Mercury Return in this Forum). Venus Return is the same, only Venus is important for the love (maybe for the money, I didn't look). I have seen in Cafe Astrology that you have to put Vertex in Venus Return. Here are also important:
Venus ASC: in what Natal house is;
Ruler of ASC: in what house is;
Venus Return MC and its ruler;
Aspects to the VR ASC ruler, to VR MC Ruler and also to Venus (this is most important). It is all like Natal Chart, only that here are most important Mercury (MR) and Venus (VR). Bobbie
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bonadea33
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posted March 31, 2011 05:39 AM
Vertiver,I have paid to Venus Group certain sum of the money (as a FEE) and can get Lunar Return explanation (also other explanation, if I want). Nothing works. Even, Moon aspects and Moon house position don't work. I have checked myself and I see nothing at all. There were only my two Lunar Returns right (very similar to Solar Return). In contrary: with Solar Return is totally different. There is a lot to see, but I have to study my SR from the Past and then see, what is right and what is not. B.
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Coffee
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posted March 31, 2011 09:40 AM
I SHALL SAY THIS ONLY ONCE.You look at astrology from a house point of view, rather than a planet point of view. From a house point of view, look to which house cusp Cancer is on. Your lunar return will tell you all about the issues involving that house for the next cycle of the Moon. Not a general prediction tool, a specific prediction tool. IP: Logged |
vertiver
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posted March 31, 2011 03:19 PM
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Originally posted by Lucia23:
Was it a very happily romantic month in terms of your mood, Vertiver? The bf who asked you to be 'official' is someone you like too?
Yes of course I like him too! But using Coffee's technique the Cancer cusp was over the 11th house and I had many group activities and outings/things to do. IP: Logged |
bonadea33
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posted April 04, 2011 07:04 AM
Here is more about Lunar Return:
http://www.astrococktail.com/lunar_sample.html My Lunar Return this month has ASC Capricorn in Natal 4th, ruler Saturn in 8th (with hard aspects, only).
Cancer is on the cusp of 7th and the Moon in 1st: no aspects at all! My Sun is in 2nd. All planets are in 4 houses: five planets are in 2nd house. Poor Lunar Return! B. ------------------
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Melinn
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posted August 24, 2018 02:37 PM
Does somebody here know which DATE to set when looking at a Lunar return chart?I'm born 1 May. So should I when I choose "lunar return" chart at astro.com as a date every month set the date as 1 June, 1 August 1 september etc? How does it work really? Have googled the net but did not find anything about this! IP: Logged |
Kannon McAfee
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posted August 24, 2018 08:08 PM
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Originally posted by Lucia23:
Do you use Lunar Returns to predict what will happen each month?
No. I don't practice astrology that way. No need to try to predict what will happen. That's not really what astrology is anyway, and is a reactive rather than proactive posture. Know your windows of opportunity and put them to (electional) use that is way better than the predictive mindset. Neither solar or lunar returns are necessary in a complete astrology practice. I use neither and believe their importance is overestimated. ------------------
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Melinn
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posted August 25, 2018 04:23 AM
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Originally posted by Kannon McAfee:
No. I don't practice astrology that way. No need to try to predict what will happen. That's not really what astrology is anyway, and is a reactive rather than proactive posture. Know your windows of opportunity and put them to (electional) use that is way better than the predictive mindset.Neither solar or lunar returns are necessary in a complete astrology practice. I use neither and believe their importance is overestimated.
I am a bit wary with predictions too, especially horary seems, a bit out there.
How do you think this solar return and also Horary astrology came to life Kannon? Do you think people always have used astrology to predict things with the help of retun charts and horary?
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Melinn
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posted August 25, 2018 04:25 AM
With that said, I really wonder how to set the date for a lunar haha! I maybe should hav started a new thread but, did not wanna crowd the forum with a thread just for one question lol!IP: Logged |
kaktuzz
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posted September 01, 2018 08:37 AM
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Originally posted by Melinn:
With that said, I really wonder how to set the date for a lunar haha! I maybe should hav started a new thread but, did not wanna crowd the forum with a thread just for one question lol!
Hi Melinn, check this Lunar return calculator: https://horoscopes.astro-seek.com/lunar-return-revolution It will help you to calculate all (cca 14) dates (during some particular year) when Moon returns on yours birth position. IP: Logged |
Kannon McAfee
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posted September 01, 2018 08:25 PM
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Originally posted by Melinn:
How do you think this solar return and also Horary astrology came to life Kannon?
Horary astrology shows its usefulness for some people in questions for finding lost items, etc. Not really sure how it came into being, but William Lilly popularized it hundreds of years ago. As I see it, finding lost items is a bit of detective work. It's practical, not predictive. quote:
Do you think people always have used astrology to predict things with the help of retun charts and horary?
The use of prediction most likely dates back to astrologers being in service to monarchs and being put upon by them to do such things. Since monarchy has faded, so should this old employment of predictive tools. I use them to understand and describe the windows of opportunity, not 'predict' outcomes or events. We may at times discuss such possibilities, but without understanding the window of opportunity inherent within any given transit/forecast picture, it isn't of much use. It takes emphasis away from the free will and constructive creative power of the individual in their own lives. ------------------
"Drift like a cloud and flow like water, seeing that all life is a magnificent illusion, a playing of energy, and there is absolutely nothing fundamentally to be afraid of." -- Alan Watts Soul Stars Astrology by The Declinations Guy
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Randall
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posted September 06, 2018 02:17 PM
Thanks, Kannon!IP: Logged |
Melinn
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posted September 15, 2018 05:26 AM
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Originally posted by kaktuzz:
Hi Melinn, check this Lunar return calculator: https://horoscopes.astro-seek.com/lunar-return-revolution It will help you to calculate all (cca 14) dates (during some particular year) when Moon returns on yours birth position.
Thank you very much Kaktuzz! Will look it up!
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Melinn
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posted September 15, 2018 05:36 AM
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Originally posted by Kannon McAfee:
The use of prediction most likely dates back to astrologers being in service to monarchs and being put upon by them to do such things. Since monarchy has faded, so should this old employment of predictive tools. I use them to understand and describe the windows of opportunity, not 'predict' outcomes or events. We may at times discuss such possibilities, but without understanding the window of opportunity inherent within any given transit/forecast picture, it isn't of much use. It takes emphasis away from the free will and constructive creative power of the individual in their own lives.
Thank you very much Kannon! I'm sorry for my delayed reply. Yes I understand how you mean. Also makes sense monarch wanted to use astrology that way, but as you said or mean, what I can understand, why not just look at the transit planets and size what themes and energies are in work and go after that? But one other thing horary is used for is, love matters. I have tryed to use it for questions like "Does he like me?" or "what does he feel?" or "is this going anywhere" etc. When hanging on horary forums for relationship questions, the interpretations often are (if not always) turned out to be correct. Like some posted "are we gonna marry" or somethink like that, and the astrologers there looked at the chart and commented, something like "no I can see this ad that planet with his signifactor blablabla, he has an affair" etc. And turns out its correct. Anyways not wanna bother you with details  What I mean is, I agree, free will should always be the prio. I should not let a horary chart "decide" if our relationship will work out or not. Also, hearing such negative things, would only create negative vibes and self prophecy so to speak? I still hang out on those forums, because I'm so fascinated by the techniques used by horary knowers. Yes i think thats it, being fascinated by it is what makes it so alluring to me... but I'm still sceptical
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MillyX
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posted September 15, 2018 11:32 PM
I check my LR out of curiosity just to have a feel of what my month would look like. Towards the end of that lunar month, I compare and see if what happened in real life was accurate to the LR chart. Most of the time, it isn't. IP: Logged |
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