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saquariogoces
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posted March 30, 2011 03:43 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for saquariogoces     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
i need something to look forward to. could anyone determine when i might finally just die? my life is **** , it has always been **** , and it feels like i will live forever. i would love it if someone would gimme the real deal, i can take it. words like "challenging" and "opportunity for growth" are a bunch of crap. i 'm not suicidal, i just morbid. thanks


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Ami Anne
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posted March 30, 2011 05:27 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Dear Alice
I know this is LITTLE consolation but KEEP writing.
I answered you in Sweet Peas. Let's talk and write every day,if you would.
I would like to talk and get to know each other.
I am not very good with the charts but I will look
I will check out Sweet Peas to see if you wrote on my thread>

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posted March 30, 2011 05:34 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I see some things. A better astrologer ,please correct me,if I am wrong.
When I talked to you in Sweet Peas, I felt Neptune.I felt you were seeing a lot of distortions.
We ALL do. That is ,prolly,our biggest problem.
We cannot see ourselves ,clearly.
Usually ,we think we are worthless and no good.
Neptune is SOOO amazing for distortions. I am coming out of some ,now.
I cannot believe HOW much Neptune lies to you.
You swore you saw things right and you were 100% wrong.

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Ami Anne
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posted March 30, 2011 05:38 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Chart wise,this is what I see.
You have your Pmoon moving to conjunct Neptune. Your emotions/heart/sense of yourself in the deepest way is NOT seeing right.
I could see that in your Sweet Peas post ,as I said.
Again ,you have transiting Chiron conjunct Neptune in the 4th house, the house of your childhood.
You may be returning to your past and it's wounds . I think you are

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Ami Anne
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posted March 30, 2011 05:42 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Again,you have T Uranus in the 4th,shaking up the 4th in a strong and sudden way.
Perhaps, your past is coming up ,before your eyes, so fast and so suddenly that you are overwhelmed.
You have PSun conjunct Jupiter in the 4th. This would be good except Chiron is there,again,too.
You have PChiron in the 4th,again, thrusting your 4th house/childhood wounds in to the forefront.
You have PSat conj Pluto. Saturn dampens what it touches.
This may bring a down sense to your deepest feeling of your own power and ability to move forward using your own force and strength.
Again, someone chime in if I am off on anything.

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bethcarliseh
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posted March 30, 2011 05:44 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for bethcarliseh     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
If we tell him the exact date that he will die isn't that against forum rules?

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Ami Anne
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posted March 30, 2011 05:58 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Natal Neptune is on your ASC,too, Alice.
You are a Neptunian person like I am.
You are more so,even.
Trust me that it is hard for you to see clearly.
I think your goal has to be to SEE through the fog to what is REAL.
Who are you,for real,not the old ideas you were told in your past,the REAL you.

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Lyra
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posted March 30, 2011 06:15 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lyra     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Actually, d'you know what, I think you're kinda better off not knowing when you're gonna die - I know Moon in Leo *can* suffer from depression & feeling static, and I am an Aries with a lot of Pisces, so in terms of your Pisces point of view I do understand where you are coming from.

I think (from a non-astrological point of view) you need to identify exactly WHO you are and HOW you are fulfilling it in your life at this present time. For example, I have been going through a lot of soul-searching recently, because, well - my job sucks, and I cannot find longterm work that I enjoy doing. Then I found that there are plenty of other people who ALSO hate work - and I have to some extent managed to rig my work and social life so that I do the minimum of work possible whilst still managing to make ends meet. I intend to pare it down even more - because I am so fed up with modern living, I think this is something that gets a lot of us down, that make us feel we can't measure up in some way. (What b*ll&cks).

Thinking about my life recently, I cast my mind back to when I was about 14, 15, 16. I remembered my parents' excessive focus on materialism, the endless boringness of school and uni, the life in the suburbs, the emphasis on external appearances and stupid rules. I saw my peers at school buying into all this rubbish, as if it was supposed to be something wonderful. I looked at it all and thought, what a pile of sh*t, this is not what I want at all (and still isn't). Casting my mind back to that time, what I wanted to be was a creative genius. To some degree, I have fulfilled that, as creativity to me is as necessary as air to breathe. If I didn't have my music I'd be in a straitjacket by now, or at the bottom of the sea. Maybe with that Pisces/ Leo influence you'd be good with something altruistic/ creative too? Just an idea - with the general vibes I'm getting from your chart...

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Ami Anne
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posted March 30, 2011 06:18 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Dear Lyra
How/why is Moon in Leo prone to depression?
Thank you so much !

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Lyra
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posted March 30, 2011 06:19 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lyra     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Source:

Ex husband. Note, I said *can* be

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fairaqua
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posted March 30, 2011 07:05 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for fairaqua     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Ami Anne:
Dear Lyra
How/why is Moon in Leo prone to depression?
Thank you so much !


I know a moon Leo. He goes through bouts. Of depression. I hate it for him and just want to wrap him in my arms and hold him but he's too proud for that.

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Ami Anne
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posted March 30, 2011 08:19 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you,Friends
I was just wondering WHAT about moon in Leo makes them prone to depression.
I am trying to feel out that placement so I can have an emotional understanding of it .

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posted March 30, 2011 09:56 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Scorpionic_Web     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This must be a Pisces woman thing. My Pisces mom and my Pisces ex-girlfriend talk about their own death all the time.

Neither are remotely suicidal, either.

They are always talking about how they are spiritually and physically tired, they've "had enough of life" and are always convinced death is knocking at their door.

My Pisces ex-girlfriend sleeps way too much and is convinced she doesn't have the strength to breathe or keep a pulse, and constantly believes her body is shutting down. She's been like this for the entire 2 years I've known her. In reality she is a hypochondriac and is doing just fine.

My mom wants me to have children just because she feels old, and believes she needs to be a grandmother to support her perceived decline towards death.

Very morbid, indeed.

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StJake
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posted March 30, 2011 11:15 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for StJake     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Supposedly it's "unethical" to tell someone when they are going to die. Something about putting negativity into their life or whatever. I don't subscribe to that, but I don't post that kind of stuff in a public forum either... it tends to get you booted. That said, if you want a no-BS look into the question, get in touch with me directly: wjstroup@gmail.com

What I *will* post publicly -

I've taken the liberty of recasting your chart to look more closely at progressions and transits. This has your progressions:

What I see here is an overwhelming feeling of being a victim:

1. Sun is exactly opposite Dejanira (representing victimization in this particular instance.) This is a major theme in your life.

2. Mars and Nessus are functionally conjunct and Nessus (toxicity/victimizer) is in a critical degree - the meaning is clear: cruelly treated at the hands of men.

3. It turns out Nessus is also square to your midheaven (MC), adding to the victim theme. This is reinforced on a personal level because (what most astrologers fail to mention) is this also aspects your IC - the cusp of your 4th house, which represents home, family, and the foundation of personal security. Overall, this reads as you being ill-at-ease with yourself. [This means we look at your 2nd house as well - see item 6.]

4. The MC/IC fall in a critical degree as well. The MC indicates materialism, trying to compensate for emotional lack through accumulation of "stuff". On the up-side, you're most likely very thrifty, and can make a dollar stretch further than most people can stretch a $20. Anyway, these bad-boys are sometimes called the "angles" and represent very intense turning points in your life when you have planets cross over them. Combined with the Nessus/Mars square I mentioned, it sets up a very rough dynamic. Here's what it looks like:

4a. It takes the sun 365 days to go around your whole chart, so it hits every point in your chart during the year. In predictive astrology the sun acts like a spotlight of intense proportions, and casts a wide field of influence (the "orb".) Most other planets only get a couple of degrees for their orb, but the sun gets 3-10 (depending on who you ask.) Think of those as days of influence, both before and after the MC/IC. Those are also squares to Nessus/Mars, so they are points you can make needed changes to shed those energies - but they will tend to be decisions/actions that are forced on you. (With the victim theme already set in motion, this will feel like more of the same.)

This transit times roughly 16-26 March and 19-29 September.

4b. Roughly 90 days after the sun transits these points, it hits conjunctions and oppositions with the Nessus/Mars thing. In a conjunction those influences are highlighted, meaning they are most directly under your control, but it also means they are going to be at their strongest influence.

This transit hits roughly 17-27 June

4c. In the opposition you have your greatest chance to break the victim pattern. Your personal energies and sense of self are at their strongest (as long as you have hospital corners on your bed.) Physical fitness and exercise are keys at this point as well, and allow you to channel energy quite well.

This transit occurs roughly 18-28 December.

4d. Overall, the key to watching these transits is the times the sun goes into Aries, Cancer, Libra and Capricorn. The day prior to the cross-over will be the day of strongest influence. Keep in mind that these are also the points where you can exercise your will on events with greatest influence.

5. A second dynamic emerges with Jupiter (expansion/greater benefic) conjunct Chiron (healing/wounded healer) in your 4th house. Jupiter has a very pleasant sextile with Mars who we've already discussed. They are also in mutual reception, reinforcing the bond between your ability to direct yourself and spot relationships that will suit your energy level.

5a. Jupiter/Chiron are also sextile Venus (love & money.) This also puts Venus in a trine with Mars. The overall dynamic indicates you can find decent partners in life, and have a pleasant flowing of energies between your heart and body. (That tells me you were able to deal with that unpleasantness from your childhood, which in turn says you are a survivor.) But -

6. Jupiter/Chiron are squared with Saturn (boundaries/time & patience) in your 8th house. This deals on one level with other people's resources & money, but on the more personal level it makes you prone to capitalize on the sexual aspects of Mars to draw affection and emotional support. This points to the 2nd house (possessions/self-esteem) emphatically because Saturn rules your 2nd house.

7. Your 2nd house is even more critical now because your ascendant (AC) is now progressed to the cusp of your 2nd house. On the one hand, this is a strong point for you now, since it puts you in very direct charge of your life (finally.) But over your life you've likely used these energies in more manipulative ways to get what you wanted, only to have things backfire in your face. Your heart is strong and fierce, but she has plenty of scars.

8. Most astrologers will probably tell you that Jupiter rules your chart. He has a strong influence, but the real dominant force in your life is Neptune. He rules your birth sign, sits on your ascendant (AC) and is the final dispositor of your sun, moon and saturn. (These 3 are key players, so his influence is greatly enhanced.) On the up-side, he gives you a psychic strength which is indicated elsewhere in your chart. For you that manifests as being able to think through things quickly to reach a logical conclusion, even though others won't be able to follow your logic, and you won't be able to explain it. You usually just end up shrugging and calling it a "gut instinct" or intuition. But you are very rarely wrong when you rely on this instinct.

Final note:There is plenty more in your chart to look at, and again, I won't get into the whole "When will I die?" thing in a public forum. But if you choose not to get in direct contact, keep this in mind: Your morbid bent won't serve you very well anymore. The progressed AC moving into your 2nd house this year is revising the victim role you've been cast in all your life. You have the will, strength, and authority to turn it all around now, and the energies in the heavens are pushing you that direction.

There are other influences I haven't mentioned that are positively lining up for you right now (not in the near future, today.) I hope this helps. Maybe I'll hear from you...

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Ami Anne
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posted March 30, 2011 11:39 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I didn't know you were THAT good,Jake

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posted March 30, 2011 01:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for StJake     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
I didn't know you were THAT good,Jake


Unfortunate that you wanted to be cagey with me instead of trusting. *shrug* But I'm getting that a lot lately.

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Ami Anne
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posted March 30, 2011 01:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I am a triple Gemini,Darlink

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posted March 30, 2011 01:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LoVeLy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi saquariogoces
If you want to talk you can add me on yahoo messenger I'll ask a mod to send you my id if you say you would like it here
xoxo

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posted March 30, 2011 01:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for StJake     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
I am a triple Gemini,Darlink


*smirk* And you said everything was impossible between us? You either used bum information on me, or you're reading the wrong stuff...

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saquariogoces
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posted March 30, 2011 02:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for saquariogoces     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
HAHAHA!! WOOO-HOOOOOO!!

MOST would find such a reading HORRIFIC but i think it's FAB-TASTIC!! it feels SO F-ING GREAT to know REAL reasons for my ****** turd of a life, YAY!! wow! "...cruelty from men..." HAHA! I'LL SAY! i'm lucky i haven't had a humiliating lifetime movie made in my 'honor' or a special 2-hour episode of SNAPPED! hell, i could have my own SERIES, LOL! it would be called, "IT WAS BOUND TO HAPPEN..." however, the WORLD is unlucky i didn't take a few muthafcka's out when i was crazed and could have...BUT THAT'S ALL OVER NOW!

BOING....BOING.....BOING.....BOING.... (happy bounce dance)

so, is there a difference between FEELING like a victim and BEING a victim, lol? actually, i don't care anymore. oh wait, i guess since one chooses what their life experiences should entail before they incarnate (i believe),the state of victim-hood is ridiculous past a reasonable age. i'm too old for that crap anyway. i'm so tired of it, haha! i'm also tired of feeling righteous indignation!! how obnoxious. i even annoyed the hell outta myself! i've felt like such a damn fool picturing myself in the cosmic waiting room picking and choosing the disasters i thought i could handle in one lifetime, lol! who the HELL did i think i was?? this actually made me deeply ashamed of myself even though i knew it was ridiculous....!!..? weird.

scorpoiness, THANK YOU! i contacted you to get the rest of the scoop. and you are right about things lining up for change, i can feel it! i just didn't know whether more disaster was coming, what kind of disaster, if i could change things, OR WHAT! and also, ami anne, you are absolutely right about me seeing SERIOUS distortions!! good GAWD on a holy cracker!! you cannot imagine how TWISTED the perceptions of myself have become. i know i still look like iggy pop after my heinous anorexic depression, but that's ok, i don't want to date ever again anyway, lol! the distortions having to do with my inner self are where the real problems lie. "...real problems LIE" about sums THAT up! i've never been afraid to take those long hard looks at my own self and accept (for the most part) my crappy attributes, but when you are probing from a totally corrupted view point... WOWZERS CAN THINGS GET UGLY!!! oh, jeeeez, i just started bawling and laughing at the same time, haha! how strange...tears of relief and joy don't burn the **** out of your skin like the acid anger tears i'm used to!

BOING....BOING....BOING....BOING... !!

THANK YOU ALL SO MUCH!! i honestly cannot remember the last time i felt GREAT! my "good" days have been "not stupendously horrid days i didn't want to slam my head in the sliding glass door just to knock myself out for a few hours of unconscious relief" for so long i forgot what real "good" was like!

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posted March 30, 2011 02:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for RunAroundScreaming     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Dear Alice,


Life sucks. It does. That is just something you're going to have to accept sooner or later. Now go out there and do what you like whatever you like....and eventually you will meet someone who makes you laugh your socks off, or someone who is so kind that it makes your heart melt, or someone who is so SO unafraid to live life to the fullest, that every single night they do. Almost every moment of their lives they do something outrageous and convince people to think out of the box. Life sucks. But a lot of people don't. Go out and volunteer and play with children, go see animals in nature, connect yourself with the innocent beings of the world who have no ulterior motives---but just are themselves. If you get a job you hate---well, all jobs suck. Stick through it. What will give you happiness is sticking through it---and everybody else at the job suffers like you do---become their friends. Try to make people laugh every moment of your life. Try to make every moment special and larger than life. You are not a victim. Everyone thinks life sucks, they do. They just don't show it. There are good people out there, people who just want to help, they'll approach you themselves and offer their kindness multiple times. Accept it. Don't worry, everything will be okay. Just make sure to have a rich inner life because that is the most importabt cure against loneliness. I write in my private tumblr diary every day. And when I read back on each entry I see how many different things I realize each day, and how much I've and my life has changed in just a week.

"Listen to the mustn'ts, child. Listen to the don'ts. Listen to the shouldn'ts, the impossibles, the won'ts. Listen to the never-haves, then listen close to me... Anything can happen, child. Anything can be." -Shel Silverstein

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posted March 30, 2011 02:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You fit in THIS group

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posted March 30, 2011 02:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by StJake:
*smirk* And you said everything was impossible between us? You either used bum information on me, or you're reading the wrong stuff...

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posted March 30, 2011 03:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lonake     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hmm, You know what, You're lacking a lot of Earth in your chart, and you have 3 very sensitive placements (at least): Sun Pisces Moon Leo and Neptune Asc. So I can see how you might feel a lil out of control and wish others were more generous and sensitive like you. I would say to try to incorporate more routine in your life and ground yourself by attending to practical matters and see if that helps any. Our Ami (Moderator) has I believe a lack of Earth as well (?) so she can explain this more to you from her perspective. You have a lot of creativity in your chart, but you just may feel out of control. Don't know if you wanna hear bad things or good things but this is what I'm going to mention after checking out the chart for a bit. That's all.

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posted March 30, 2011 03:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for saquariogoces     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
it's good to fit in SOMEWHERE, hee hee!

yes, LACKING EARTH. totally ungrounded. i drive people nuts with that! i'm like the plastic grocery bag on the side of the road in the movie "american beauty" except it's soggy, haha...sniff, :P

i wanna hear the good the bad and the ugly! i can assure you, there ain't nuthin' that will freak me out or make me too horrified to go on. there is nothing in my chart that could possibly top the frightfully bizarre distortions in personal insight that i have already tried to deal with, and if they do, well, i would be preternatural hell spawn that is actually suffering so much because i'm trying to be "good"...and upon the realization of my magical creatureness, i'll stop fighting my true nature, will sprout black leathery wings, and hunt mexican non-smokers for lunch. either way, i'm not scared :F

who was it that addressed my creativity? i just looked...CRAP! I MEANT THANK YOU JAKE!!!!! (not that scorpioness didn't add to the rich tapestry-thank you) IT'S HARD WHEN THERE ARE NO FACES WITH NAMES - SORRY..woops ...

lonake! yes, i'm creative all right. i could also have my own reality show, "when good creativity goes bad". my plastic garbage bag can really zing out to the stratosphere....disturbing....eeek!

wow...all of you are so kind! i have been coming to this sight for years and never once thought to join until the other day. i guess i was saving it for a weighty entrance, haha! i just embarrassed the hell outta myself with that silly imaginative thought. see? when creativity goes bad...

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