posted April 16, 2011 07:19 PM            

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Originally posted by Tyranny:
Mochai-All that site told me was that you're some wack job who thinks Lady GaGa is part of the occult.

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posted April 16, 2011 07:34 PM            

Did you think Lady Gaga was just some crazy celeb that the elite figured they could make money off of? Her actions would make any sane person doubt her sanity. I certainly wouldn't promote her and would go with another talent. There are many more beautiful than her..

Also tyranny I don't mean any of this offensively. I really don't. Your beliefs are very similar to mine a few years ago, albeit our approach is different in some ways.

Please excuse the vulgarness of this picture..

I'm shocked you're into astrology. Perhaps you'll like the zodiac wheel at the hoover damn. It shouldn't be there. http://www.flickr.com/photos/mdv_graupe/3451118621/

I'm sure you think there was nothing to britney spears going crazy, shaving her hair, writing 666 on her forehead and saying she was the anti-christ right before she was checked into Promises rehab center. No. That doesn't mean I think she's the one proverbial anti-christ figure.

posted April 16, 2011 07:51 PM            

Anyways, THANKS FOR SHARING COFFEE, & THANKS to everyone contributing towards the subject matter.

IQ,
I'm really getting the feeling, you might have some answers that I'm maybe consciously or unconsciously seeking??
So if you dont mind further explaining...please?

["33 refers to End of a Cycle in Occult Numerology.......Many Celebrity Slaves and Programming Icons are "finished off" on or before their 33rd birthday..............Britney Spears is a target."]
~ Why is it the end of cycle? cuz Jesus died at 33? Why & how are these, "slaves," chosen? genetic makeup? What exactly do they want these slaves like Britney Spears to do? Why even kill off someone (Heath Ledger) if they're under your control?

["JFK killed on 22-11-1963. 22+11= 33, 1+9+6+3 = 19, the other Ritual Number referring to Mother of Darkness Programming."]
~ Could you explain why 19? but it's supposed to be the prince of heaven # & very fortunate. Also, is there anything significant about the number 36 then? (Diana & Marilyn Monroe died at age 36).

IQ, if your answers to my Q's above feels synchronizing,...then I will email you & try to explain whatever the heck I've been experiencing. I feel like something is subconsciously trying to break loose, & I need answers. However, I dont know where or what to exactly search for...& it bothers me.

posted April 17, 2011 03:42 AM            

@WingedLeo, very useful links, thanks!

@Agent,
Every number has a frequency and it can used either positively or negatively. 19 is an excellent number mathematically and even in terms of luck but unfortunately the dark side occultists use it for Mother of Darkness programming. It is their choice, they do not want to leave the comforts of Ego based existence and enter the Angelic Levels. Like Aleister Crowley, they just wish to "Do as they Will", no matter what other people suffer because of their megalomania.
Yes, there is a connection to Jesus at 33, and also the the 33 Vertebrae in our Spine. There is a connection to Kundalini, perhaps premature in the case of celebs who cannot take the energy and commit suicide. If anyone breaks free, they would kick Astral a&s like Neo. Maybe after 2012

Heath's case was horrible, they used him to portray the Darkness of Joker and then sacrificed him ahead of schedule. I still do not know why, maybe he latched onto their Astral Plans in his drugged state? Diana and Monroe were killed so that do not spill the beans. Why 36? One theory is that 9 also refers to an ending. Jim Morrison was finished off at 27, I think Janis Joplin also at 27. This 27 presents an exit point due to Progressed Moon return. The immature celebs are given enough drugs to kill themselves.
Do email me, if I have any answers in my archived notes, I can help.

@Pire, there is minimal disagreement between us. Your approach is to ensure there are no flawed assumptions, and it is laudable.
The thing is my background research has been exhaustive in this matter because of interacting with witnesses. Like a Jury, I give credence to ordinary people's testimony, those who have no interest in making money out of wild revelations. And when two unrelated eye witnesses who are not insane describe the exact same thing, it is valid in a Court of Law. Why not for making a valid Hypothesis?
When N number of people under hypnotic regression describe an empire that a Clairvoyant has described as Lyran exactly the same way, and have described an invasion by a harmful species in exactly the same way, that too before the internet boom, then it is food for thought. When Genetic Engineering for the missing link is virtually documented, when literal translations of Ancient Texts across so many civilizations speak of winged serpents as gods who fashioned mankind, then it ensures the Draco theory has validity.
When the Dogon tribe has so clearly testified to Sirian beings, when Abductees have testified to beings described as Sirians by Calirviyants as being high tech Sirians, we can safely include Sirians.

Proof of Sirius: Clairvoyants consitently speak of Sirians controlling the Hebrew Race, choosing them to succeed for their Agenda. The Holy Quran confirms this by saying the Lord of the Israelites is the Lord of Sirius. The Quran has been proven by Rashad Khalifa in 1980s as to being mathematically impossible to create by an Arab in the 7th century without computers because of a numerical code covering digits that run into thousands. Arabs did not know division/multiplication till they conquered India.

I hope you see how I piece my research.

Draco and Sirian are confirmed.

The biggest flaw is how do I know the main forefathers of Humanity were Lyran only and not Arcturan or Antari?

Enter LSD, the code drug for consciousness manipulation. To the outside world it is Lysergic Acid. But Occultists always maintain two meanings, one for their initiates.

S = Sirius
D = Draco.
L = ?

Ok, if this is far fetched, let us enter the dark side of Hollywood. Who are shown as the coolest and sophisticated in hit cult movies? Vampires. Hollywood is alleged to be under the Draco Bloodlines who like Dracula love energy of human blood.

Who are shown as their enemies? Werewolves. What are the werewolves called? WHy are they simply not called wolves? They are called LYCANS.

An occult secret is to jumble a word by changing one letter. MABUS mentioned by Nostradamus for instance is USAMA [ or even OBAMA if you are conservative ]

So LYCANS are blatantly LYRANS, the enemy of Hollywood Controllers and Vampires.

Does the equation fit? L= ? L = Lyrans. You could fit Lions or Leo as well, for not less than 7 contactees report assistance from Lion Beings, captured in Ancient Egyptian Art as Sekhmet, the Lion goddess.

I could go on and on. I have not even started about Freemasonry's dark side after they got compromised nor Hitlers role nor the Nazi UFO contacts nor Inner Earth Reptilians nor Moon Child rituals, Goetia, Child Sacrifice like Waco [ April 19th is coming], ELF Waves, HAARP, Davos, Manchurian Candidates, Jim Keith, Phil Schneider, Chemtrails, 12 murdered microbiologists prior to these new Bird FLu/Swine Flu alarms to force vaccinations, etc etc. Every hypothesis has some confirmed jigsaw piece, some pieces are missing but that is where we have to apply testimony of uncompromised Human Witnesses. Like Patricia Doyle who explained why those 12 microbiologists had to die. Each knew a certain DNA chain used in bio warfare. She barely escaped, I have her email testimony and know how she escaped. They did not know her genetic origin, hence she could develop immunity

I am not forcibly fitting data for my own agenda, just piecing together many jigsaw pieces. We also have Astrology to know whether we are being fooled by a transit or not. A study of Billy Meiers chart [and the fact that he has just one hand] proves that he was not fibbing about his ET Contact in 1963. An elaborate cover up took place after Col Wendell supported him, and now enough doubt has been planted on Meier's revelations.

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posted April 17, 2011 05:10 AM            

The word lycan does not come from Lyra or whatever else you claimed...whoever it was that claimed. Though Apollo was the god of the lycans, the werewolf is the symbolic "proof" of how the body is both feared and denied. It is emotion (genuine and heartfelt) that kills the beast within (shown when the silver bullet pierces the heart), the lycan is not some evil entity but that part of us that is primal.

The problem here is not closed minds but unhealthy ones.

All new age belief and talk of alien races is just another way to find yet another god to hand power over to. You talk of 4 and 5d beings who are all powerful over humans. This is fear based and it is a direct denial of the divinity within each and every human that has the power to take full responsibility for their own life.

Myths, stories, beliefs..whatever you choose to call them are no more than symbolic representations of the battles that take place within the individual. They serve as a means to understand oneself so that we may find living a little easier.

4D is the collective unconscious and not some mythical, alien vibration.

The old myth of dying at 33 is fear...if it was such an important number to "them" then "they" wouldn't choose to take someone out at the age of 32.

I am not a difficult skeptic - it is YOUR ego IQ that says "When my soul is ready" that I'll know the truth. Since when did you become omipresent? You wrap half truth with lies and continue the spread of the virus that has infected mankind, you are a perpetuator of the disease that STOPS people from finding the truth. You have based half your research on films not fact. And you have obviously not studied philosophy or psychology or even some genuine myth.

The number of times I have heard someone talk about "waking up" and yet it is these people who are in need of removing the veil from their eyes.

Of course the astrological symbols can be found everywhere...but how does this mean were under the control of some evil entity?

Britney had a breakdown...lots of people who have breakdowns say they are the devil or even god himself...it's all SYMBOLIC...but it doesn't mean it's real. Lady gaga is a performer...who can act out what is in the collective unconscious...like any writer, musician, actor. It doesn't make her a puppet of the illuminati.

Ernest Becker
Rollo May
C J Jung
Nietzsche
even Clarissa Pinkola Estes and Liz Greene... all of these people have answers, genuine answers that help ease the human suffering and point to the roots of this infection in the collective psyche. The same infection that "you" continue to spread.

posted April 17, 2011 07:53 AM            

Your hate has got the better of you and exposed you in front of everybody here as one who makes false accusations against senior members.

I forgive you though, but please stop stalking me henceforth.

Best of luck.

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posted April 17, 2011 08:39 AM            

Are you trying to pull rank over a "junior" member or was this just an attempt at making me shut up? Did you add the stalking comment to throw me off even further? You forgive me ? For what? Having an informed opinion?

So it's okay for you to make claims in a public forum and not okay for me to respond?

posted April 17, 2011 08:47 AM            

Even though I disagree with you on many spiritual topics, I cannot find any fault in your reasons for disagreement. It helps me refine many topics, plug gaps etc.

Constructive Criticism is the Vitamin C for genuine research.

Edit: I will try to collect some links from my archives and post in the Universal Codes forum, as this topic on the Astrology Forum should be more about the Astrology of Mind Control. The links will span the evidence/ testimonies of decorated officers like Gordon Cooper, ex-Nasa employees etc etc etc. Hopefully WikiLeaks will also shed some light next year.

posted April 17, 2011 10:28 AM            

I'm wasting my time and energy because on a deeper scale we are one and my happiness depends on everyone's happiness. Things have to change on this planet and consciousness has to expand. Commercials make you buy more of the product. That is a fact. Seeing violence on tv activates your mirror neurons, predisposing you to the same acts. An actor sets up the cirucuits of the character he is playing within his brain every time he acts. We are an interpersonal species. Without even going into the metaphysical energies, we literally take a piece of very individual we interact with with us through the process of mirroring and communication. Our brains are set up to attune and hardwire into the people we talk to. It's not about control, it's about awareness. We are not separate on the most subtle level nor can we ever ultimately be. The more we are concious of that the better off we will be as a species. The elements I'm talking about play a role in that and it is all connected. The elements involved are not superfluous.

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What hate?

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Originally posted by dysfunctionalmystic: You wrap half truth with lies and continue the spread of the virus that has infected mankind, you are a perpetuator of the disease that STOPS people from finding the truth. You have based half your research on films not fact. And you have obviously not studied philosophy or psychology or even some genuine myth.

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This should be obvious. I'm not surprised your daughter has moon opposite pluto, but that has more to say about your choice in women than anything else. Not to mention, going by this I don't know how well you know iq or his posts.

I'd like to know what your truth is seeing as you imply that it has to be searched for.

I know you know from researching as a mystic that certain symbols carry importance to certain people in certain rituals. There are power numbers or manifestation etc. This should be fact for you if you have any experience there. When these crop up all over the media or thematically in movies, that should seem odd knowing the masonic dominance in America. That's precluding it's themes in architecture or dates that show a reucrring importance for large scale matters. We should be so foolish as to stick our heads in the sand and claim that the world is chaotic and full of bloodlust and that war is unavoidable. If you look at the brain, we were not designed to function well under such parameters. Perhaps there is a greater design?

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Originally posted by dysfunctionalmystic: The number of times I have heard someone talk about "waking up" and yet it is these people who are in need of removing the veil from their eyes.

Of course the astrological symbols can be found everywhere...but how does this mean were under the control of some evil entity?

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I was trying to point out the larger picture. If you haven't noticed astrology and psychic phenomena and people who believe in it are made to look stupid on sitcoms and in the mass media. Heaven forbid someone looks at the actual studies on the matter. It's the suppression of spiritual truths in the media along with the astrological and occultic symbolism in plain site that should be showing something is amiss.

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Originally posted by dysfunctionalmystic: Britney had a breakdown...lots of people who have breakdowns say they are the devil or even god himself...it's all SYMBOLIC...but it doesn't mean it's real. Lady gaga is a performer...who can act out what is in the collective unconscious...like any writer, musician, actor. It doesn't make her a puppet of the illuminati.

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I'm very glad you're recognizing symbolism. I feel sorry for all the mk-ultra victims you invalidate. Perhaps mind control is a part of the collective unconciousness. It plays a huge theme in lady gaga's symbolism as does violence and abusive relationships with overt sexual overtones detached from emotion and any form of attachment and love. So collectively we are looking for shallow destructive relationships that she is mirroring? Collectively human sacrifice is cool? If you don't believe me look at the 2009 vma's as that was a strong theme in her performance there. Perhaps we should be changing the format of match.com to something akin to Hey, I'm looking for a guy with lots of money that I can fight with and use! I'm very sexy and fake and superficial because I know that gets me guys and it's sexy. I'm very egocentric and like to go against god's will because we're all here for the games and the materialism and that's where true fulfillment comes from. It's all about me! I'm looking for the same! It would be meeting the markets need if it were designed more towards that spectrum of the unconcious. I'm trying to illustrate a point here. If you've studied interpersonal neuroscience and attachment and attunement you'd know how wrong this is on a fundamentally biological level.

If you think right brain symbolisms in dreams or archetypes don't mean anything why are you citing Jung as someone you admire as a harbringer of truth?

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posted April 17, 2011 01:18 PM            

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Originally posted by iQ:
Mochai, if your post was a symphony, Mozart would be proud. Sheer brilliance.

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bah, Mozart.

posted April 17, 2011 01:18 PM            

"A genuine leader is not a searcher for consensus but a molder of consensus."
Dr. Martin Luther King Jr.

posted April 18, 2011 05:19 AM            

ABout Brittany Murphy, see even the wrestler "Test" was not up to anything against the system. It is as if some kids are chosen based on their genetics to act as programming icons [Zac Effron, Mandy Moore most Disney stars], to set trends, have an emotional impact. Tavistock Organization used to do this in the 1960s, the Montauk Project is related to this as well. How can an emotional craze like Rock and Roll occur without some subliminal hanky panky?
Chubby Chucker also did rock and roll. Jazz was, is and will always be better than Rock and Roll. But Rock n Roll after 1960s becomes a craze with silly Beetles songs with inane lyrics driving girls to tears.

If the icons fail to perform or have outlived their usefulness in enticing trends for the youth, the "Satanic System" disengages. Notice that these icons are not explicitly murdered, they end up killing themselves. The reason is that a "Self Sabotage" or "Suicide Program" kicks in when these youngsters are left without the support of "Handlers". And hence, excessive drugs, overdose, and exit. Some icons like Lennon who want to fight the system after having eaten of its fruit, they are finished off with MK Ultra assassins. The original Mk Ultra Chemist named Olsen was also brutally killed. Timothy Leary lived, he got too much fame but they tried their best to silence him. They can never harm an honest man who does not take their money. To this day some people blame David Icke as being part of the agenda just because he has not been killed but the bloke has not taken their money, hence he cannot be assassinated. Call it "Angelic Interference" or "Psychic Shields from Higher Self" or simply not dirtying the Aura with dirty money, but it works. Carl Payne Tobey was threatened by dark side occultists for years, nobody could put a bullet through him.

On a side note, a link to a professional astrologer's page where he carefully words what we honest researchers know as standard Mind Control using trauma at childhood endured by Britney Spears: http://www.cainer.com/celebs/091108/index.html
I used to think that Kaali conj Sun, Asc, Moon or Neptune was very dangerous for Mind Control victims but suddenly there have been a spate of cases where there is an exact conjunction of Draconic Kaali on Natal Sun, Moon or Neptune or Dr Sun on natal Kaali.
Very conveniently, her dad Jame's birthdate is unknown so I cannot astrologically nail the abusing b**tard.
Her mom's Dr Karma exactly conjuncts Britney's Sun but no abuse signatures.
Incidentally, top ranking programmed slave Mandy Moore has Draconic Sun exact on her Natal Kaali. Judy Garland though has Dr Hekate conj Sun and not Kaali. And poor Chandra Levy had Dr Lucifer conju Natal Kaali + Moon and Dr Sun conj Natal Lucifer. Ouch. Keep those eyes wide shut dear skeptics and tie a yellow ribbon round it for even an old oak tree has more awareness.

Back to my views,
Some slaves are purely used for sexual ritual. Their genetics allow reality manifestation when they hold thoughts in an altered state. The sexual rituals mimic Sacred Geometry shapes like pentagrams but in inverted forms. The Master of Ceremonies will even wear grotesque masks to play out Satan/Baphomet. This is what Kubrick showed in "Eyes Wide Shut".
The victims will not recall the sexual ritual when they snap out. They might just think it was a dream. These rituals can also occur in the Astral State, as reported by many of my contacts. They wake up feeling totally drained.

Even the great Jiddu Krishnamurti told about astral entities having sex with real world women. I will never doubt Jiddu's word, he was a man who gave up the glory of Theosophical leadership once he got his Kundalini Awareness. His testimony is written in the book: "1001 Lunches with Krishnamurti".

Sexual Energy from masturbation on seeing "hot" programming icons is collected on the Astral and used for "arranging" global events. A contact reported such rituals near the Bay of Bengal a month before the Tsunami of 2004.

This is also one of the main reasons for PornStars having strong Astral Energy Aspects in their charts. They can easily act as energy conduits.

The increase of sodomy in pornography is to encourage more Lower Astral Energy to be utilized.

These things are not new, they have been occurring since the times of Atlantis, then Babylon, Rome etc. They are cleverly hidden from the masses using harsh religious doctrines that force "sex is dirty" on the minds of good people.

The thing is a couple in love who are emotionally bonded, if they start manifesting the same positive thoughts, then they can annihilate negativity. Hence this information is suppressed.

The great Napoleon Hill leaked out this information in "Think and Grow Rich with Peace of Mind" but God knows how many people paid attention, most people just skim through such books. Hill was also telepathically contacted by a Tibetan Group who taught him to release 26 negative emotions to attract positive abundance.

I wonder why none of the Self Help Gurus these days mention this fact. Hill, Haanel, Schinn, Troward, Emerson, Velikovsky, Buckminster Fuller, Gurdjieff, Jung, Herman Hesse... they all cracked different pieces of the puzzle. Had Tesla worked with Haanel instead of Edison and the other oil barons, the world would have been vastly different.

Plato is the original genius who spoke of human entrapment in the "Allegory of the Cave". Newton knew too, he wrote over 10000 pages on the occult which are in Latin, and are stubbornly not released to public to this day. So much for the yokels who still believe the official government sources.

The overall thing is that the dark side needs sophisticated techniques and too much effort to accomplish their control agenda, and they still struggle for centuries but individuals who connect to their Higher Self automatically surpass even ETs and become akin to 5th D Light beings. They will always be happy in any state of existence.

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posted April 18, 2011 06:43 AM            

Many things has rang a bell inside me.

posted April 18, 2011 06:47 AM            

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I'm not surprised your daughter has moon opposite pluto, but that has more to say about your choice in women than anything else.

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Why are you not surprised? What choice in women do you refer to?

IQ
Littlecloud
Mochai
Agent009
Sunglasshole

posted April 18, 2011 07:01 AM            

! ! !

posted April 18, 2011 07:08 AM            

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Lewinsky: Dr Asc conjunct Natal Lucifer.
She survived because LOGOS and TYCHE conjunct her Sun. The Force was strong in this one

Laci Peterson: Like Judy Garland, she has KAALi conj KARMA exact. Laci's Dr LUCIFER was exact on Natal Pluto. Ritually killed.
Scott has Dr LUCIFER conj Natal True Node and Dr ANUBIS conj Natal KAALI.

Jon Benet Ramsey: Dr Ascendant conj Natal LUCIFER, HEKATE and Chiron. Dr LUCIFER, HEKATE and Chiron conj Natal Kaali.
Any doubts that this was a satanic ritual killing?

Classical MK Ultra Mind Control victim: Cathy O Brien.
If my theory is false, she should not have any Kaali or Hekate aspects.
Look what she has:
1. Sun and Saturn conjunct KAALI
2. Dr Sun, Saturn and KAALI conj Natal Moon
3. Dr HEKATE conj Natal KAALI
4. Dr Sun square Natal HEKATE
She is a frank and honest Sagittarius Sun.

I must remind readers that most MKULTRA records were deliberately destroyed in 1973 by order of then CIA Director Richard Helms.
They forgot about Astrology. You can't shred away natal chart aspects Mr. Helms.

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posted April 18, 2011 11:04 AM            

Dr MC conjunct natal KAALI
Dr LUCIFER oppose natal Ascendant