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littlecloud
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posted April 18, 2011 12:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for littlecloud     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Winged Leo- Check out Health and Healing forum.

IQ- I saw Eyes Wide Shut when I was young and didn't like it because it really creeped me out. I think I had nightmares after that..
Nataly I have kaali opp moon exact. I almost got into the acting industry and once I found out what really goes on I decided that I didn't want to be involved. I still love the theatre though... I also sent you an email I'm not sure if you got it, hopefully it was sent to the correct email address.

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posted April 18, 2011 12:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mochai     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It's a trauma aspect.

Either way. Before you get all excited trying to defend politicians and masons, fluoride is a neurotoxin, and unless you're in a very specialized field, you won't know it's effects. There are many professionals including professors who have stepped forward saying it needs to be removed from the tap water immediately. Places like Japan will not put it in their water for these reasons. Knowingly putting neurotoxins into the water or food is a form of mind control if done purposefully. It is known that during WW2 the nazis envisioned and likely used fluroide to control the jews to make them more sedate and less prone to uprising. Note how we started fluroidating the water not too long after that, and with fluoride waste from power plants might I add. Should our tax dollars be funding that?

Other forms of control we could look at.. 9/11 and buildings falling like they were pulled (explosives). How we knew about those terrorists and continued to ignore them. How NORAD stepped down that day.. the first day it had in history. It correlates very nicely with the Reichstag fire that the Nazi's used to grab control of Germany. That is fear and population control at it's finest, not to mention 9/11's significance as a date in occult circles or the way disasters seem to line up in a grid pattern on specific occult dates.

The truth of the matter is being suppressed by the media in favor of fear and control. Things that are passing in congress right now that should have never seen the light of day. It should be obvious that every single politician out there votes not with his constituency but with the corporations who support him. Our government is not for the people and by the people. It is for the corporations, and maybe you haven't seen the bagel study, or seen the many ceo white collar criminals that have come to light over the last 10 years but there is an element here that you cannot remove from it's parts. There is a disease at the top echelons of all corporations and political groups in this world, profiting off war and disseminating half truths.and blatant lies. If that coupled with the media influence is not mind control, the suppression of truth, I don't know what is. They already arrested people without grounds who were speaking out against the government when the patriot act came out. Why you are defending these people should be raising eyebrows..

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posted April 18, 2011 08:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SunGlas$Hole     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I look all over for toothpaste without fluoride in it. It's impossible to find toothpaste that is fluoride free. IF a person has clean teeth it means that their pineal gland is destroyed. I always knew not to trust a dentist.

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posted April 18, 2011 08:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mochai     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Fluoride doesn't help that much if any at all. It frequently causes fluorosis which is detrimental. Tom's has fluoride free toothpaste and there are many other toothpaste brands like that but you typically have to go to a natural grocer. You can make your own toothpaste, just make sure it's using aluminum free baking soda unless you like dementia.

Using swanson because the site is just cheap.. but here is fluoride free Tom's. http://www.swansonvitamins.com/TSM006/ItemDetail?SourceCode=INTL405&CAWELAID=129500466[/ URL]

on fluorosis [URL=http://naturaldentistry.us/1406/example-of-fluorosis-symptoms-treatments-and-causes/]http://naturaldentistry.us/1406/example-of-fluorosis-symptoms-treatments-and-causes/

The carefully designed animal experiment which they report revealed subtle but very real changes in behavior patterns following fluoride ingestion: hyperactivity after prenatal exposure, and cognitive deficits after weanling and adult exposure. Fluoride accumulation in important regions of the rat brain, especially the hippocampus, was found to increase as the drinking water fluoride levels increased. These effects, and the sex differences observed, corresponded to those observed in other studies of hippocampal brain damage.

The authors point out that the plasma fluoride levels recorded in the rats were the same as those sometimes recorded in humans - for example, in children one hour after receiving topical fluoride treatment of their teeth. In their conclusion calling for further rat and human studies they state:

"Experience with other developmental neurotoxicants prompt expectations that changes in behavioral function will be comparable across species, especially humans and rats. Of course behaviors per se do not extrapolate, but a generic behavioral pattern disruption as found in this rat study can be indicative of a potential for motor dysfunction, IQ deficits and/or learning disabilities in humans."
The authors draw attention to reports from Chinese investigators that high levels of fluoride in drinking water (3-11 ppm) affect the central nervous system directly without first causing the physical deformations of skeletal fluorosis.2-4 Readers of Fluoride will recall the recent (November 1995) research report from China indicating adverse neurological effects on the brain from fluoride exposure.5 This work also suggested that children with dental fluorosis are at greater risk of decreased mental acuity. One can only wonder whether the effects of fluoridated water might extend beyond the appearance of the teeth and include neurotoxicity among children afflicted with dental fluorosis.

Some of our readers may recall also pertinent early clinical findings reported by our founding editor, Dr G L Waldbott, of which Dr Mullenix and her co-workers do not appear to have been aware. These involved a wide range of reversible toxic effects of fluoridated drinking water, including diminished mental acuity and impairment of memory.6-8 In a separate report, Dr Waldbott even gave an account, supported by laboratory data, of a case of tetaniform convulsions induced by drinking fluoridated drinking water.9 For decades proponents of water fluoridation have questioned the validity of these reports without, however, offering objective evidence to refute them. But in the light of the human research in China and now the animal research in the United States, these clinical observations by Dr Waldbott on the neurotoxicity of fluoride in drinking water clearly deserve greater attention and credence. [references not scanned]

Jaqueline Calderon, Machado Blenda, Navarro Marielena, Carrizales Leticia, Ortiz Maria Deogracias, Diaz-Barriga F. Influence of Fluoride Exposure on Reaction Time and Visuospatial Organization in Children, Epidemiology July 2000, Volume 11, Number 4 Supplement S153.

Fluoride exposure is an important public health problem in several Mexican states. In the city of San Luis Potosi, Mexico, above 90% of the children have some degree of dental fluorosis. The main source of exposure to fluoride is tap water. The objective of the study was to evaluate the influence of chronic exposure to fluoride on neuropsychological development in children. Sixty-one children aged 6 to 8 years were included. Fluoride concentration in tap water ranged from 1.2 to 3 mg/L. Fluoride exposure was measured in urine samples by electrothermal ion selective method. Blood lead (PbB) was measured as indicator of lead exposure by atomic absorption spectrophotometry. Height for age index (HAI) was calculated as indicator of past nutritional status. Three tests were used to evaluate the neuropsychological development: (1) Wechsler Intelligence Scale for Children Revisited version for Mexico (WISC-RM), (2) Rey Osterrelth-Complex Figure test and (3) Continuos Performance Test (CPT). Mean value of fluoride in urine was 4.3 mgF/g creatinine (1.6-10.8). Mean PhB value was 6.2 ug/dl (2.0-15.6). After controlling by significant confounders, urinary fluoride correlated positively with reaction time and inversely with the scores in visuospatial organization. IQ scores were not influenced by fluoride exposure. An increase in reaction time could affect the attention process, also the low scores in visuospatial organization could be affecting the reading and writing abilities in these children.

Guan ZZ, Wang YN, Xiao KQ, Dai DY, Chen YH, Liu JL, Sindelar P, Dallner G, Influence of chronic fluorosis on membrane lipids in rat brain. Neurotoxicol Teratol 1998 Sep-Oct;20(5):537-42

Brain membrane lipid in rats were analyzed after being fed either 30 or 100 ppm fluoride for 3, 5, and 7 months. The protein content of brain with fluorosis decreased, whereas the DNA content remained stable during the entire period of investigation. After 7 months of fluoride treatment, the total brain phospholipid content decreased by 10% and 20% in the 30 and 100 ppm fluoride groups, respectively. The main species of phospholipid influenced by fluorosis were phosphatidylethanolamine, phosphatidylcholine, and phosphatidylserine. The fatty acid and aldehyde compositions of individual phospholipid classes were unchanged. No modifications could be detected in the amounts of cholesterol and dolichol. After 3 months of fluoride treatment, ubiquinone contents in brain were lower; however, at 7 months they were obviously increased in both groups of fluoride treatment. The results demonstrate that the contents of phospholipid and ubiquinone are modified in brains affected by chronic fluorosis and these changes of membrane lipids could be involved in the pathogenesis of this disease.

Department of Pathology, Guiyang Medical College, Guizhou, China. jialiul@public.gy.gz.cn

http://www.pacc-news.com/12-15-10/fluoride12_15_10.html

http://www.pacc-news.com/12-15-10/fluoride12_15_10.html gotta love me some fluoirde induced osteosarcoma (that study from Harvard)

http://www.fluoridealert.org/50-reasons.htm
50 reasons to oppose fluoridation

Right.. and I'm the stupid paranoid person following pseudo-scientists? If fear is making anyone stupid it's not me.

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posted April 18, 2011 08:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by SunGlas$Hole:
I look all over for toothpaste without fluoride in it. It's impossible to find toothpaste that is fluoride free. IF a person has clean teeth it means that their pineal gland is destroyed. I always knew not to trust a dentist.

Get it in the Health food store , Val.

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posted April 18, 2011 08:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SunGlas$Hole     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted April 18, 2011 08:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by SunGlas$Hole:
thanks

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posted April 19, 2011 03:45 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for iQ     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I did not get your email LittleCloud. Are you on FB?

To detox from Fluoride, just consume organic Tamarind, made as a curry or soup. Why do Tamils from Southern India perform so well in intellectual pursuits? The secret is a daily diet of Tamarind Soup. There could be other solutions too but this is something I know for certain.
There is fluoride in water as well, a good water distiller will help plus a diet that includes Chelators like Fulvic Acid and Himalayan "Shilajit" for natural minerals will help so that minerals are not lost from drinking distilled water.

I just take plenty of Tamarind Soup and Blue Lotus Tea, easiest solution

We get fluroide free toothpaste in India plus there are variants that use the Neem Tree extract. People who just use twigs of the Neem Tree to brush have perfect teeth even in their 70s. Clove is another variant.
All are far better than harsh chemicals.

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posted April 19, 2011 04:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for iQ     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
WingedLeo:
"Dr MC conjunct natal KAALI
Dr LUCIFER oppose natal Ascendant"

IMHO, they indicate witnessing or knowing of a traumatic abuse in the past lifeline. The witness may have kept quiet for sake of his or her career.

Orgonite Info: http://www.orgonite.info/
You can make your own. I am waiting for Knowflake SunChild to start production


@Mochai:
"Why you are defending these people should be raising eyebrows.."
The documented evidence against Flouride is too strong but the financial stakes are too high. Same with any big pharma.

In the Hyperspace Cafe Forum, there was a huge churning this year when evidence of financial complaints against Stewart Swerdlow came out. Since then all of Stewart's closest contacts deserted him, and the so called aggrieved people worked very hard to discredit all his research, which is unfortunate because most of his research is excellent. Stewart was unprofessional with money in recent years and had these problems coming. But what happened after that was that the "crusaders" against Stewart have suddenly picked up cudgels to discredit David Icke, claiming that Icke works for the Dark Side. Icke has not made any money for himself and without him, millions would never have heard about Global Conspiracies/Cabals. His book "The Biggest Secret" to this day is the best eye opener of what is happening behind the scenes. Suddenly he is a villain simply because he has not been killed!

So forums have been hijacked to rail against whistle blowers and exposers like David Icke. I think Wiki Leaks stressed out the Dark Side. Julian Assange might have UFO Documents stashed and mirrored in his Servers. Just imagine, thousands of Diplomatic Cables have exposed lies of world governments, and some people still have the temerity to call Icke or Cathy O Brien or Billy Meier a liar and the government/politicians as honest. More than half the crime in India can be traced to political support. An "Egypt" is waiting to happen even in Delhi if the scamsters are not brought to book, they have looted more than trillion dollars of public money.

Thalidomide, Mercury in Vaccines, Aspartame, Operation paper Clip, Drug Testing done without knowledge of Soldiers/Civilians, HIV Infected Needles in African Immunization Programmes, 9-11 Conspiracies, Dirty Bombs, Davos, Bilderberg Meetings, Trilateral Commission, David Kelly's death, Scott Ritter/Hans Blix's testimony... so much evidence, documented and circumstantial, exists all around. And Wiki Leaks has proven that Governments lie far too often.

Any person who says there are no government conspiracies after seeing so much exhaustive documentation and after the testimony of so many sane witnesses is either:
1. A Disinfo Agent
2. Mindless


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posted April 19, 2011 04:32 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for SunGlas$Hole     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
excellent information IQ

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posted April 19, 2011 05:09 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for SunGlas$Hole     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
IQ, there is

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posted April 19, 2011 08:29 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for littlecloud     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
IQ- I sent it to the email that's on your links. I lost the paper I wrote the other one that you had posted on...I have fb but it's giving me problems so email is easier...

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posted April 19, 2011 08:36 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for littlecloud     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
also Neem Oil is awesome but tastes disgusting...note to anyone who uses it...do not put more than one drop it's also great for anti-bug spray for you and your pet.

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posted April 19, 2011 09:01 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for iQ     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
<< also Neem Oil is awesome but tastes disgusting...note to anyone who uses it. >>
Absolutely true but it is that bitterness that does the magic
Replied to your email as well.

@SunGlass, this seems to be because of emotional empathy from Psychic Cords, her Aura to yours and vice versa. Thoughts are also things in a higher dimension, my friend.
Your synastry will show the reasons for this empathy.

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posted April 19, 2011 04:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Winged Leo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
littlecloud and iQ, thanks!

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posted April 20, 2011 09:41 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for mochai     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nZBRBPgTOt0

One of the world's leading experts on fluoride discusses it's toxicity on an australian news program.

Normal filtration systems canot get fluoride out of the water.. You need a reverse osmosis distillation system, and even that is not enough to remove all of it.

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posted April 20, 2011 11:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Quinnie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What about bottled water? Is there high fluoride content in it?

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posted April 20, 2011 01:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mochai     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Bottle water isn't supposed to have any fluoride, although i've seen them sell fluoridated water marketed towards giving it to babies at my local grocery store. I know there are more chemicals in bottled water, but a lot of that's due to the plastic. Certain plastics are better than others too. It's best to get a glass container that's refillable. They're a little expensive though.
http://www.amazon.com/3-Gallon-Glass-Water-Bottle/dp/B001AWWZNW/ref=sr _1_5?ie=UTF8&qid=1303319472&sr=8-5

Here.. I found the brand that markets for fluoride in the water.. the amount of fluoride they recommend on the website is higher than my local city will put in it's water.. It's sickening.. http://www.nurserywater.com/nursery/fluoride.php

More on fluoride toxicity in babies.. http://www.fluoridealert.org/infant-warning.pdf

A petition to try to get wal-mart to stop selling it's fluoridated nursery water (they don't have teeth yet.. wtf!) http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/walmart/

A study on tooth decay in fluoridated vs unfluoridated countries.. http://www.fluoridealert.org/health/teeth/caries/

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"According to the current consensus view of the dental research community, fluoride's primary - if not sole - benefit to teeth comes from topical application to the surfaces of teeth (while in the mouth), and not from ingestion.

It is also acknowledged by dental researchers that fluoride has little effect on preventing cavities in the pits and fissures (chewing surfaces) of teeth - where the majority of tooth decay occurs.

Perhaps not surprisingly, therefore, tooth decay rates have declined at similar rates in all western countries in the latter half of the 20th century - irrespective of whether the country fluoridates its water or not. Today, tooth decay rates thoughout continental western Europe are as low as the tooth decay rates in the United States - despite a profound disparity in water fluoridation prevalence in the two regions."

On fluorosis.. (32% get it.. and yes.. it's bad for your teeth)

Excessive ingestion of fluoride during the early childhood years may damage the tooth-forming cells, leading to a defect in the enamel known as dental fluorosis.

Teeth impacted by fluorosis have visible discoloration, ranging from white spots to brown and black stains.

Teeth with fluorosis also have an increased porosity of the enamel. In the milder forms, the porosity is mostly limited to the sub-surface enamel, whereas in the more advanced forms, the porosity impacts the surface enamel as well, resulting in extensive pitting, chipping, fracturing, and decay of the teeth.

The discoloration induced by fluorosis - particularly in its advanced forms - can cause significant embarrassment and stress to the impacted child, resulting in adverse effects on esteem, emotional health, and career success.

According to the Centers for Disease Control, 32% of American children now have some form of dental fluorosis, with 2 to 4% of children having the moderate to severe stages (CDC 2005).

While proponents of water fluoridation dismiss dental fluorosis as being simply a "cosmetic effect," recent research indicates that the rate of bone fracture among children with fluorosis (even in the mild forms) is higher than the bone fracture rates among children with no fluorosis.

As noted by Dr. Hardy Limeback, Head of Preventive Dentistry at the University of Toronto, "it is illogical to assume that tooth enamel is the only tissue affected by low daily doses of fluoride ingestion." http://www.fluoridealert.org/health/teeth/fluorosis/index.html

1) Fluoride's ability to damage the brain represents one of the most active areas of research on fluoride toxicity today.

2) The research on fluoride and the brain has been fueled by 18 human studies from China, India, Iran, and Mexico finding elevated levels of fluoride exposure to be associated with IQ deficits in children. Fluoride's impact on IQ is exacerbated among children with low-iodine exposure.

3) The impact of fluoride on children's IQ has been documented even after controlling for children's lead exposure, iodine exposure, parental education and income status, and other known factors that might impact the results (Rocha-Amador 2007; Xiang 2003 a,b).

4) In addition to IQ studies, 3 studies (Yu 1996; Du 1992; Han 1989) have found that fluoride accumulates in the brain of the fetus, causing damage to cells and neurotransmitters and 1 study (Li 2004) has found a correlation between exposure to fluoride during fetal development and behavioral deficits among neonates.

5) Several recent studies have found that even adult exposures to fluoride may result in central nervous system disturbances, particularly among industrial workers.

5) The findings of neurological effects in fluoride-exposed humans is consistent with, and strengthened by, recent findings from over 40 animal studies published since 1992. As with the studies on humans, the studies on animals have reported an impairment in learning and memory prorcesses among the fluoride-treated groups.

6) The animal studies have also documented considerable evidence of direct toxic effects of fluoride on brain tissue, even at levels as low as 1 ppm fluoride in water (Varner 1998). These effects include:

-- reduction in nicotinic acetylcholine receptors;
-- reduction in lipid content;
-- impaired anti-oxidant defense systems;
-- damage to the hippocampus;
-- damage to the purkinje cells;
-- increased uptake of aluminum;
-- formation of beta-amyloid plaques (the classic brain abnormality in Alzheimer's disease);
-- exacerbation of lesions induced by iodine deficiency; and
-- accumulation of fluoride in the pineal gland.

(yes.. aluminum causes dementia)

Summation - Fluoride/Arthritis: (Click for more detail)

Excessive exposure to fluoride causes an arthritic disease called skeletal fluorosis.

Skeletal fluorosis, especially in its early stages, is a difficult disease to diagnose, and can be readily confused with various forms of arthritis including osteoarthritis and rheumatoid arthritis.

The arthritic symptoms of fluorosis can occur before the onset of bone changes detectable by x-ray, thereby making the early stages of fluorosis difficult to differentiate from arthritis.

In the advanced stages of skeletal fluorosis, the spine may closely resemble the appearance of spondylosis/spondylitis and DISH (Diffuse Idiopathic Skeletal Hyperostosis).

General Info - Arthritis:

"The word arthritis literally means joint inflammation, but it is often used to refer to a group of more than 100 rheumatic diseases that can cause pain, stiffness, and swelling in the joints."
SOURCE: National Institutes of Health
"Arthritis and chronic joint symptoms affect nearly 70 million Americans, or about one of every three adults, making it one of the most prevalent diseases in the United States. As the population ages, this number will increase dramatically."
SOURCE: Centers for Disease Control and Prevention

Summation - Fluoride & Pineal Gland:

Up until the 1990s, no research had ever been conducted to determine the impact of fluoride on the pineal gland - a small gland located between the two hemispheres of the brain that regulates the production of the hormone melatonin. Melatonin is a hormone that helps regulate the onset of puberty and helps protect the body from cell damage caused by free radicals.

It is now known - thanks to the meticulous research of Dr. Jennifer Luke from the University of Surrey in England - that the pineal gland is the primary target of fluoride accumulation within the body.

The soft tissue of the adult pineal gland contains more fluoride than any other soft tissue in the body - a level of fluoride (~300 ppm) capable of inhibiting enzymes.

The pineal gland also contains hard tissue (hyroxyapatite crystals), and this hard tissue accumulates more fluoride (up to 21,000 ppm) than any other hard tissue in the body (e.g. teeth and bone).

After finding that the pineal gland is a major target for fluoride accumulation in humans, Dr. Luke conducted animal experiments to determine if the accumulated fluoride could impact the functioning of the gland - particulalry the gland's regulation of melatonin.

Luke found that animals treated with fluoride had lower levels of circulating melatonin, as reflected by reduced levels of melatonin metabolites in the animals' urine. This reduced level of circulating melatonin was accompanied - as might be expected - by an earlier onset of puberty in the fluoride-treated female animals.

Luke summarized her human and animal findings as follows:

"In conclusion, the human pineal gland contains the highest concentration of fluoride in the body. Fluoride is associated with depressed pineal melatonin synthesis by prepubertal gerbils and an accelerated onset of sexual maturation in the female gerbil. The results strengthen the hypothesis that the pineal has a role in the timing of the onset of puberty. Whether or not fluoride interferes with pineal function in humans requires further investigation."

(now ask yourselves.. why are children growing breasts and reaching purity at a younger age in England and America?)

Summation - Fluoride & the Thyroid:

According to the US National Research Council, "several lines of information indicate an effect of fluoride exposure on thyroid function."

Fluoride's potential to impair thyroid function is perhaps best illustrated by the fact that -- up until the 1970s -- European doctors used fluoride as a thyroid-suppressing medication for patients with HYPER-thyroidism (over-active thyroid). Fluoride was utilized because it was found to be effective at reducing the activity of the thyroid gland - even at doses as low as 2 mg/day.

Today, many people living in fluoridated communities are ingesting doses of fluoride (1.6-6.6 mg/day) that fall within the range of doses (2 to 10 mg/day) once used by doctors to reduce thyroid activity in hyperthyroid patients.

While it may be that the thyroid in a patient with hyperthyroidism is particularly susceptible to the anti-thyroid actions of fluoride, there is concern that current fluoride exposures may be playing a role in the widespread incidence of HYPO-thyroidism (under-active thyroid) in the U.S.

Hypothyrodisim, most commonly diagnosed in women over 40, is a serious condition with a diverse range of symptoms including: fatigue, depression, weight gain, hair loss, muscle pains, increased levels of "bad" cholesterol (LDL), and heart disease.. The drug (Synthroid) used to treat hypothyroidism is now one of the top five prescribed drugs in the U.S.

As recommended by the US National Research Council: “The effects of fluoride on various aspects of endocrine function should be examined further, particularly with respect to a possible role in the development of several diseases or mental states in the United States.”

Fluoride & Bone - Skeletal Fluorosis: (Click for more detail)

Excessive exposure to fluoride causes an arthrtiic bone disease called skeletal fluorosis.

Skeletal fluorosis, especially in its early stages, is a difficult disease to diagnose, and can be readily confused with various forms of arthritis including osteoarthritis, and rheumatoid arthritis.

In the advanced stages, fluorosis can resemble a multitude of bone/joint diseases, including: osteosclerosis, renal osteodystrophy, DISH, spondylosis, osteomalacia, osteoporosis, and secondary hyperparathyroidism.

The risk of developing fluorosis, and the course the disease will take, is influenced by the presence of certain predisposing factors, including impaired kidney function; dietary deficiencies; gastric acidity; and repetitive stress.

While only a limited number of studies have documented the disease in the U.S., it is almost certain that other cases of the disease have occurred but escaped detection.

Fluoride & Bone - Bone Fracture: (Click for more detail)

1) The vast majority of animal studies investigating fluoride's effect on bone strength, have found fluoride to have either no effect or a negative effect on strength. Very few animal studies have found a beneficial effect.

2) Studies on human populations consuming fluoride in drinking water, have found an association between dental fluorosis and increased bone fracture in children; and between long-term consumption of fluoridated water and increased hip fracture in the elderly.

3) Carefully conducted human clinical trials - including two "double-blind trials" - have found that fluoride (at doses of 18-34 mg/day for just 1-4 years) increases the rate of bone fracture, particularly hip fracture, among osteoporosis patients.

4) Animal studies and human clinical trials indicate that fluoride can reduce bone strength before skeletal fluorosis is present.

Fluoride & Bone - Research Gaps:

1) No systematic research exploring the incidence of skeletal fluorosis among susceptible subsets of the population including heavy tea-drinkers and people with kidney disease.

2) Other than 3 small, limited studies from the 1950s-1960s (Steinberg 1955, 1958; Ansell 1965), no research exploring the relationship between fluoride exposure and arthritis in the general population.

3) No comprehensive research exploring the doses of fluoride capable of producing the early stages of skeletal fluorosis, and how such doses vary based on the presence or absence of predisposing factors.

4) No research exploring how genetics may influence the risk and nature of fluoride-induced bone effects in the general population.

5) No comprehensive data in the US on the levels of fluoride in the bone and blood of individuals in fluoridated communities and the relationship of these levels to bone changes.

Just please.. look around here. If you're not disgusted you're not paying attention.. http://www.fluoridealert.org/health/

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posted April 20, 2011 01:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mochai     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
http://www.thenhf.com/article.php?id=1993

Guess what chemical in your water was never approved for ingestion by the FDA??


The Truth About 'Fluoride'

(or what every Mother should know)

by A. True Ott
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Fluoride used by Nazis to sterilize inmates and make them docile. Fluoride a key dumbing down ingredient of Prozac and Sarin nerve gas -- poisons of choice for tyrant rats.

First of all, it needs to be stated that the 'substance' referred to as 'Fluoride' is a misnomer - there is no such substance listed in the periodic chart of the elements, nor in the prestigious CRC handbook, nor in the sacred 'bible' of the pharmaceutical industry - the illustrious 'Merck Index'. Instead, we find a GAS called Fluorine - and from the use of this gas in various industries such as aluminum manufacturing and the nuclear industry -certain toxic byproducts are created which have 'captured' fluorine molecules. One such toxic, poisonous 'byproduct' is called sodium Fluoride - which according to the Merck Index is primarily used as rat and cockroach poison and is also the active ingredient in most toothpastes and as an "additive to drinking water". But sadly, there is much more to this sordid tale.

Did you know that sodium Fluoride is also one of the basic ingredients in both PROZAC (FLUoxetene Hydrochloride) and Sarin Nerve Gas (Isopropyl-Methyl-Phosphoryl FLUORIDE) - (Yes, folks the same Sarin Nerve Gas that terrorists released on a crowded Japanese subway train!). Let me repeat: the truth the American public needs to understand is the fact that Sodium Fluoride is nothing more (or less) than a hazardous waste by-product of the nuclear and aluminum industries. In addition to being the primary ingredient in rat and cockroach poisons, it is also a main ingredient in anesthetic, hypnotic, and psychiatric drugs as well as military NERVE GAS! Why, oh why then is it allowed to be added to the toothpastes and drinking water of the American people?

Historically, this substance was quite expensive for the worlds' premier chemical companies to dispose of - but in the 50's and 60's - Alcoa and the entire aluminum industry - with a vast overabundance of the toxic waste - SOMEHOW sold the FDA and our government on the insane (but highly profitable) idea of buying this poison at a 20,000% markup and then injecting it into our water supply as well as into the nation's toothpastes and dental rinse. Yes that's right folks, a 20,000% markup. Consider also that when sodium Fluoride is injected into our drinking water, its level is approximately 1 part-per-million (ppm), but since we only drink ½ of one percent of the total water supply, the hazardous chemical literally 'goes down the drain' and voila - the chemical industry has not only a free hazardous waste disposal system - but we have also PAID them handsomely in the process!!

Independent scientific evidence over the past 50 plus years has shown that sodium fluoride shortens our life span, promotes various cancers and mental disturbances, and most importantly, makes humans stupid, docile, and subservient, all in one neat little package. There is increasing evidence that aluminum in the brain is a causative factor in Alzheimer's Disease, and evidence points towards sodium fluoride's strong affinity to 'bond' with this dangerous aluminum (remember it is a byproduct of aluminum manufacturing) and also it has the ability to 'trick' the blood-brain barrier by imitating the hydrogen ion thus allowing this chemical access to brain tissue.

Honest scientists who have attempted to blow the whistle on sodium fluoride's mega-bucks propaganda campaign have consistently been given a large dose of professional 'black-listing' and thus their valid points disputing the current vested interests never have received the ink they deserve in the national press. Just follow the money to find the 'control' and you will find prominent American families to be prominent 'players' in the scandal. In 1952 a slick PR campaign rammed the concept of 'fluoridation' through our Public Health departments and various dental organizations. This slick campaign was more akin to a highly emotional "beer salesman convention" instead of the objective, scientifically researched program that it should have been. It has continued in the same vein right up to the present day - and now sodium fluoride use has now become 'usual and customary'.

To illustrate the emotional vs. the scientific nature of this issue, just look at the response given by people (perhaps yourself included?) when the subject of fluoridation comes up. You need to ask yourself, "Is this particular response based on EMOTIONS born of TRADITION, or is it truly unbiased and based instead on thoroughly researched objectivity?" There is a tremendous amount of emotional, highly unscientific "know-it-all" emotions attached to the topic of 'sodium fluoride' usage -but I personally have yet to find even ONE objective, double blind study that even remotely links sodium fluoride to healthy teeth at ANY AGE. Instead, I hear and read such blather as "9 out of 10 DENTISTS recommend 'fluoride' toothpaste" etc. etc. etc. Let me reiterate: truly independent (unattached to moneyed vested interest groups) scientists who've spent a large portion of their lives studying and working with this subject have been hit with a surprising amount of unfair character assassinations from strong vested-interest groups who reap grand profits from the public's ignorance as well as from their illnesses. (Just follow the money!)

Do you have diabetes and/or kidney disease? There are reportedly more than 11 million Americans with diabetes. If it is true that diabetics drink more liquids than other people, then according to the Physicians Desk Reference these 11 million people are at much higher risk drinking fluoridated water because they will receive a much deadlier dose because of their need for higher than normal water consumption. Kidney disease, by definition, lowers the efficiency of the kidneys, which of course is the primary means in which fluoride (or any other toxic chemical) is eliminated from the body. Does it not make sense that these people shouldn't drink fluoridated water at all? Cases are on record (Annapolis, Maryland, 1979) where ill kidney patients on dialysis machines died because they ingested relatively small amounts of SODIUM FLUORIDE from unwittingly drinking the 'fluoridated' city water supply? Will adequate warnings be given to people with weak kidneys, or will the real cause of such deaths be 'covered up' in the name of 'domestic tranquility'?

Concerning the 'practice' of putting sodium fluoride into drinking water, where did this insanity begin and WHO tried it first? From personal research, the very first occurrence of purposefully putting sodium fluoride into drinking water was in the German ghettos and in Nazi Germany's infamous prison camps. The Gestapo you see had little concern about sodium fluoride's 'supposed' effect on children's teeth; instead, their reason for mass-medicating water with sodium fluoride was to STERILIZE HUMANS and force the people in their concentration camps into calm, bovine, submission. (See for reference: "The Crime and Punishment of I.G. Farben" written by Joseph Borkin.) Kind of shocking isn't it folks!! Ah, but it gets even better.

The following letter was received by the Lee Foundation for Nutritional Research, Milwaukee Wisconsin, on 2 October 1954, from a research chemist by the name of Charles Perkins. He writes:

"I have your letter of September 29 asking for further documentation regarding a statement made in my book, "The Truth about Water Fluoridation", to the effect that the idea of water fluoridation was brought to England from Russia by the Russian Communist Kreminoff. In the 1930's Hitler and the German Nazis envisioned a world to be dominated and controlled by a Nazi philosophy of pan-Germanism. The German chemists worked out a very ingenious and far-reaching plan of mass-control which was submitted to and adopted by the German General Staff. This plan was to control the population in any given area through mass medication of drinking water supplies. By this method they could control the population in whole areas, reduce population by water medication that would produce sterility in women, and so on. In this scheme of mass-control, sodium fluoride occupied a prominent place.

"Repeated doses of infinitesimal amounts of fluoride will in time reduce an individual's power to resist domination, by slowly poisoning and narcotizing a certain area of the brain, thus making him submissive to the will of those who wish to govern him. [A convenient and cost-effective light lobotomy? --- Ott].

"The real reason behind water fluoridation is not to benefit children's teeth. If this were the real reason there are many ways in which it could be done that are much easier, cheaper, and far more effective. The real purpose behind water fluoridation is to reduce the resistance of the masses to domination and control and loss of liberty."

"When the Nazis under Hitler decided to go to Poland, both the German General Staff and the Russian General Staff exchanged scientific and military ideas, plans, and personnel, and the scheme of mass control through water medication was seized upon by the Russian Communists because it fitted ideally into their plans to communize the world."

"I was told of this entire scheme by a German chemist who was an official of the great I.G. Farben chemical industries and was also prominent in the Nazi movement at the time. I say this with all the earnestness and sincerity of a scientist who has spent nearly 20 years' research into the chemistry, biochemistry, physiology and pathology of fluorine --- any person who drinks artificially fluorinated water for a period of one year or more will never again be the same person mentally or physically."

Signed: CHARLES E. PERKINS, Chemist, 2 October, 1954.

Another letter needs to be quoted at length as well to help corroborate Mr. Perkin's testimony. This letter was written by a brilliant (and objectively honest) scientist named Dr. E.H. Bronner. Dr. Bronner was a nephew of the great Albert Einstein, served time in a WWII prison camp and wrote the following letter printed in the Catholic Mirror, Springfield, MA, January 1952:

"It appears that the citizens of Massachusetts are among the 'next' on the agenda of the water poisoners.

"There is a sinister network of subversive agents, Godless intellectual parasites, working in our country today whose ramifications grow more extensive, more successful and more alarming each new year and whose true objective is to demoralize, paralyze and destroy our great Republic ---- from within if they can, according to their plan --- for their own possession."

"The tragic success they have already attained in their long siege to destroy the moral fiber of American life is now one of their most potent footholds towards their own ultimate victory over us."

"Fluoridation of our community water systems can well become their most subtle weapon for our sure physical and mental deterioration. As a research chemist of established standing, I built within the past 22 years 3 American chemical plants and licensed 6 of my 53 patents. Based on my years of practical experience in the health food and chemical field, let me warn: fluoridation of drinking water is criminal insanity, sure national suicide. DON'T DO IT!!"

"Even in very small quantities, sodium fluoride is a deadly poison to which no effective antidote has been found. Every exterminator knows that it is the most effective rat-killer. Sodium Fluoride is entirely different from organic calcium-fluoro-phosphate needed by our bodies and provided by nature, in God's great providence and love, to build and strengthen our bones and our teeth. This organic calcium-fluoro-phosphate, derived from proper foods, is an edible organic salt, insoluble in water and assimilable by the human body; whereas the non-organic sodium fluoride used in fluoridating water is instant poison to the body and fully water soluble. The body refuses to assimilate it."

"Careful, bonafide laboratory experimentation by conscientious, patriotic research chemists, and actual medical experience, have both revealed that instead of preserving or promoting 'dental health', fluoridated drinking water destroys teeth before adulthood and after, by the destructive mottling and other pathological conditions it actually causes in them, and also creates many other very grave pathological conditions in the internal organisms of bodies consuming it. How then can it be called a 'health plan'? What's behind it?"

"That any so-called 'Doctors' would persuade a civilized nation to add voluntarily a deadly poison to its drinking water systems is unbelievable. It is the height of criminal insanity!"

"No wonder Hitler and Stalin fully believed and agreed from 1939 to 1941 that, quoting from both Lenin's 'Last Will' and Hitler's Mein Kampf: "America we shall demoralize, divide, and destroy from within."

"Are our Civil Defense organizations and agencies awake to the perils of water poisoning by fluoridation? Its use has been recorded in other countries. Sodium Fluoride water solutions are the cheapest and most effective rat killers known to chemists: colorless, odorless, tasteless; no antidote, no remedy, no hope: Instant and complete extermination of rats."

"Fluoridation of water systems can be slow national suicide, or quick national liquidation. It is criminal insanity ------- treason!!"

Signed: Dr. E.H. Bronner, Research Chemist, Los Angeles

Apparently, the public outcry by Dr. Bronner and others precluded the fluoridation of public water systems for a season - but soon thereafter, the Food and Drug Administration allowed this deadly poison to be put in 'toothpaste', and our dentists were systematically brainwashed into providing 'fluoride treatments' to their many patients. Of course, today many major metropolitan areas have a minimum of 1 parts per million sodium fluoride systematically added to their water supply and more areas are seeking to add this poison every year. Add to this the fact that bottling companies (soft drinks, juices, etc.) use fluoridated water to make their products - is it any wonder that people can no longer think clearly and ask pertinent questions of their elected and ecclesiastical leaders? Is it also a mystery why so many top Nazi mind control scientists were brought to America by the CIA and their infamous 'Operation Paper Clip'?

If you believe all of this is 'just a coincidence' - go ahead and keep brushing your teeth with your 'fluoride' toothpaste and sucking on your sodium fluoride enhanced Coke or Pepsi product - for ignorance truly is bliss and you truly deserve what you get.

Mothers, if your little ones are having trouble concentrating at home or in school, or have been diagnosed as 'attention deficit' - perhaps you would be well advised to look for the culprit (and the solution to the problem) no further than your home medicine cabinet (your tube of toothpaste) and your friendly neighborhood school's water fountain!!

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Key Findings - Fluoride & the Reproductive System:

High doses of fluoride have repeatedly been found to interfere with the reproductive system of animals. Commonly observed effects in fluoride-exposed animals include: oxidative stress, damaged sperm, reduced sperm count, and reduced fertility.

According to the authors of a recent study in the journal Reproductive Toxicology:

"We conclude that fluoride treatment is associated with testicular disorders, which may be due to induction of oxidative stress in reproductive organs along with possible adverse effects of fluoride on pituitary testicular axis.The detailed mechanism of fluoride treatment on the male reproductive system has not been elucidated and will be the subject of future experiments " (Ghosh et al 2002).

Research on possible reproductive effects in humans is limited. Some recent research, however, indicates that fluoride exposure (at lower doses than given to animals) can cause toxic effects to human Sertoli cells and gonadotrophs, reduction in circulating testosterone, and reductions in total fertility rate. The dose at which fluoride can begin to cause these effects is not yet known.

Need for Research - Fluoride & the Reproductive System: (back to top)

“the relationship between fertility and fluoride requires additional study.”
SOURCE: National Research Council. (2006). Fluoride in Drinking Water: A Scientific Review of EPA's Standards. National Academies Press, Washington D.C. p161.

"The effects of fluoride on the reproductive system merit further investigation in animal and human studies."
SOURCE: Department of Health & Human Services. (U.S. DHHS) (1991). Review of Fluoride: Benefits and Risks. Department of Health and Human Services, USA. p. 88-89.

Human Studies - Fluoride & the Reproductive System: (back to top)

“A few human studies suggested that high concentrations of fluoride exposure might be associated with alterations in reproductive hormones, effects on fertility, and developmental outcomes, but design limitations make those studies insufficient for risk evaluation.”
SOURCE: National Research Council. (2006). Fluoride in Drinking Water: A Scientific Review of EPA's Standards. National Academies Press, Washington D.C. p 6.

"Fluoride-induced reproductive effects have been reported in experimental models and in humans. However, these effects were found in heavily exposed scenarios. Therefore, in this work our objective was to study reproductive parameters in a population exposed to fluoride at doses of 3-27 mg/day (high-fluoride-exposed group-HFEG). Urinary fluoride levels, semen parameters, and reproductive hormones in serum (LH, FSH, estradiol, prolactin, inhibin-B, free and total testosterone) were measured. Results were compared with a group of individuals exposed to fluoride at lower doses: 2-13 mg/day (low-fluoride-exposed group-LFEG). A significant increase in FSH (P<0.05) and a reduction of inhibin-B, free testosterone, and prolactin in serum (P<0.05) were noticed in the HFEG. When HFEG was compared to LFEG, a decreased sensitivity was found in the FSH response to inhibin-B (P<0.05). A significant negative partial correlation was observed between urinary fluoride and serum levels of inhibin-B (r=-0.333, P=0.028) in LFEG. Furthermore, a significant partial correlation was observed between a chronic exposure index for fluoride and the serum concentrations of inhibin-B (r=-0.163, P=0.037) in HFEG. No abnormalities were found in the semen parameters studied in the present work, neither in the HFEG, nor in the LFEG. The results obtained indicate that a fluoride exposure of 3-27 mg/day induces a subclinical reproductive effect that can be explained by a fluoride-induced toxic effect in both Sertoli cells and gonadotrophs."
SOURCE: Ortiz-Perez D, et al. (2003). Fluoride-induced disruption of reproductive hormones in men. Environmental Research 93:20-30.

"The first step in assessing a health risk by a substance to humans is the identification of its harmful effects on animals. A health risk to humans is assessed using results from human epidemiological studies in conjunction with results from animal studies. The Newburgh-Kingston Study (Schlesinger et al, 1956) showed an earlier age of first menarche in girls living in the fluoridated Newburgh than in unfluoridated Kingston. The current animal study indicates that fluoride is associated with an earlier onset of puberty in female gerbils. Furthermore, more research was recommended on the effects of fluoride on animal and human reproduction (USPHS, 1991). This project has contributed new knowledge in this area."
SOURCE: Luke J. (1997). The Effect of Fluoride on the Physiology of the Pineal Gland. Ph.D. Thesis. University of Surrey, Guildford. p. 177.

"OBJECTIVE: The present study focuses on serum testosterone concentrations in patients with skeletal fluorosis, in order to assess the hormonal status in fluoride toxicity... RESULTS: Circulating serum testosterones in skeletal fluorosis patients were significantly lower than those of Control 1 at p < 0.01. Testosterone concentrations of Control 2 were also lower than those of Control 1 at p < 0.05 but were higher than those of the patient group. CONCLUSIONS: Decreased testosterone concentrations in skeletal fluorosis patients and in males drinking the same water as the patients but with no clinical manifestations of the disease compared with those of normal, healthy males living in areas nonendemic for fluorosis suggest that fluoride toxicity may cause adverse effects in the reproductive system of males living in fluorosis endemic areas."
SOURCE: Susheela AK, Jethanandani P. (1996). Circulating testosterone levels in skeletal fluorosis patients. Journal of Toxicology and Clinical Toxicology 34(2):183-9.
"A review of fluoride toxicity showed decreased fertility in most animal species studied. The current study was to see whether fluoride would also affect human birth rates. A U.S. database of drinking water systems was used to identify index counties with water systems reporting fluoride levels of at least 3 ppm. These and adjacent counties were grouped in 30 regions spread over 9 states... Most regions showed an association of decreasing TFR [Total Fertility Rate] with increasing fluoride levels. Meta-analysis of the region-specific results confirmed that the combined result was a negative TFR/fluoride association with a consensus combined p value of .0002-.0004, depending on the analytical scenario. There is no evidence that this outcome resulted from selection bias, inaccurate data, or improper analytical methods. However, the study is one that used population means rather than data on individual women. Whether or not the fluoride effect on the fertility rate found at the county level also applies to individual women remains to be investigated."
SOURCE: Freni SC. (1994). Exposure to high fluoride concentrations in drinking water is associated with decreased birth rates. Journal of Toxicology and Environmental Health 42:109-121.

"There are no published reports in the literature on reproductive toxicity of fluoride in men. However, two Russian studies showed that chronic occupational exposure to fluoride-contaminated compounds might affect reproductive function. Men who had worked in the cryolite industry for 10-25 years and who demonstrated clinical skeletal fluorosis showed decreases in circulating testosterone and compensatory increases in follicle-stimulating hormone when compared with controls (Tokar and Savchenko, 1977). Of the exposed men, those exposed to cryolite for 16-25 years had increased luteinizing-hormone levels as compared with men exposed for 10-15 years. Women exposed occupationally to air heavily laden with superphosphates demonstrated increases in menstrual irregularities and genital irritations when compared with unexposed controls (Kuznetzova, 1969). However, occupational exposure to many other compounds in the cryolite and superphosphate industries makes it difficult to implicate any one substance, such as fluoride, in inducing these health effects. A recent study of women employed in silicon water manufacturing (fabrication room workers) showed a relative risk of spontaneous abortion of 1.45 times that of women (of the same ages) who worked in nonfabrication rooms (Schenker et al., 1992). The overall increase in risk ranged from about 20 to 40%. There was a dose-response relationship and a consistency of findings for persons exposed to on specific class of solvents. Spontaneous abortions were also associated with fluoride exposure but only in one work group, and a strong dose-response was not present. The authors characterized the fluoride-associated increase in relative risk of spontaneous abortions as 'less consistent' than the results of exposure to some solvents in this study and 'less consistent' with other research."
SOURCE: National Research Council. (1993). Health effects of ingested fluoride. Report of the Subcommittee on Health Effects of Ingested Fluoride. National Academy Press, Washington, DC. p. 73-74.

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More Astrological Indicators:
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Lennon's Assassin Marc Chapman has Dr Moon conj Natal Kaali and Sun conjunct Nessus exact.

Janis Joplin and Jim Morrison were both born in 1943, the year of the Philadelphia Experiment that laid the foundation of Project Montauk and the use of Music in Mind Control, MKUltra etc.
Jim has Dr Sun, Natal Pluto all oppose Natal Kaali. Natal South Node conjuncts Kaali exact.


Brian Jones has Dr KAALI conjunct Natal Sun exact. Dr Pluto and Dr HEKATE oppose Natal Kaali as well. He was a founding member of Rolling Stones.

Syd Barret of Pink Floyd had Dr Sun and Dr VESTA conjunct Natal Kaali. Dr Kaali opposed Natal Sun. Syd was heavily into drugs and had to be removed. He also has Karma conjunct Nemesis, indicating Self Sabotage in addition to programming. Interestingly, Pink Floyd recorded "Wish you were Here" on the year of Syd's Saturn Return. Pink Floyd's 1973 sensation "Dark Side of The Moon" has a direct synchronicity with Judy Garland starrer "Wizard of Oz". This may have been Roger Water's secret deprogramming effort.

The legendary Wrestling superstar Chris Benoit's life ended in a bizarre murder-tragedy during the peak of his career.
Chris Benoit has Sun conjunct Kaali with Dr Lucifer and Dr Pluto conjunct his natal Karma. Doctors said his brain was found to be severely damaged, like it was the brain of an 85 year old with Alzheimers but I do not know of any 85 year old with Alzheimers brutally killing a young woman and a child before committing suicide.

Vincent Kennedy McMahon, the shrewd wrestling magnate with a billion dollars plus the blood of more than two dozen wrestlers indirectly on his hands DOES NOT HAVE any Sun or Moon to Kaali aspects. He has Dr Neptune and Dr Chiron bang on his Natal Lucifer with PLuto and Kaali conjunct, squaring HEKATE. He serves his Master very well and reaps the rewards.


I seriously wonder why Pope RATzinger has Draconic Kaali conjunct Natal Sun exact and Dr Sun oppose Natal Kaali.
Who do you work for Mr. Pope?

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Some more findings:
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Mick Jagger:
Dr Asc conjunct Natal Kaali.
Dr Moon conjunct Natal Hekate.

James Dean: Weak Kaali aspect of Dr Kaali conjunct Natal Neptune with 3 degree orb.
LUCIFER conjunct Descendant and Sun conjunct NEMESIS exact. The heart throb actor died in a car crash at age 24.

Grace Kelly: Not known for being a monarch slave but married a Prince.
Dr ANUBIS conj Natal Ascendant.
Died in a car accident. KAALI conjuncts Uranus.

Bob Hope: Alleged to be a "programmer".
Born a New Moon with Dr Lucifer conjunct Natal Kaali, he also has Jupiter conjunct Kaali.

Frank Sinatra: Alleged to be a satanist and a programmer, he has Ascendant conjunct Hekate and Sun conjunct LILITH. Dr Nessus conjuncts Natal Lucifer.

Marilyn Monroe: Many Lucifer aspects, Draconic Sun squares Natal Kaali, and Natal Saturn and Kaali in opposition.

Justin Beiber: Sun conjunct Hekate, Venus opp Kaali, Dr Nessus opp Kaali.

Jessica Simpson: Sun conjunct Nessus is exactly opposed Kaali.

Jimi Hendrix: Sun, Kaali, DNA, Mercury in a stellium with Draconic Nessus conjuinct Natal Kaali exact. Hekate is conjunct Neptune.

Janis Joplin: Mars conjunct Kaali.
Nemesis square Dr Kaali, Nessus square Dr Kaali, Dr Lucifer opp Natal Kaali and Dr Aura square Natal Kaali. Whew....


Interesting that the "27 Club" musicians: Brian Jones, Jimi Hendrix, Janis Joplin and Jim Morrison were born between 1942-1943, the main year of the Philadelphia Experiment.

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Walt Disney: Was he a "puppet" of the Dark Cabal?
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His fame name is Walt Disney.

WALT = 14
DISNEY = 19

14 + 19 = 33.

He has Dr Lucifer conj Sun,
Dr Neptune conj Kaali and Vesta,
Dr Pluto conj Lilith and Karma,
Dr Nessus conj Natal Lucifer and
Dr Sun conj Natal Anubis.

Incidentally, his daughter Diane Disney has Dr Anubis conjunct her Natal Sun exact and Dr Lucifer conjunct her Natal Saturn.
She has Kaali oppose Vesta in exact contrast to her dad.

Adopted daughter Sharon's Draconic Kaali is exactly conjunct her natal Anubis. The Astral Pattern is perfectly locked in because her Dr Sun squares Natal Vesta.

Eerily, Diane's birthday is 13 days after Walt's birthday. And Sharon's birthday is 13 days after Diane's.

His dad Elias died on a 13th. Elias has Draconic Sun conjunct Natal Kaali and Natal Moon. Mom Flora was 22nd April 1868 and has Dr Nessus conj Moon, Dr Kaali conj Neptune and Dr Anubis opp Natal Lucifer. Was she a victim? She has Pluto sq Lucifer and Deajnira opp Hekate


Why did Walt marry Lillian on a 13th (July 13, 1925) ?

Was she in on the dark side or was she also a puppet?
She has Kaali, Lilith, Karma and Dejanira in a neat stellium, conjunct by none other than Draconic Anubis.
Why did Lilian's first pregnancy fail?

Who or "What" was controlling Walt Disney's life?

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Edit: Walt's brother Roy Disney opened the Magical Kingdom in 1971. Roy has Sun conjunct Kaali and Dr Lucifer conj Natal Anubis.


Enough of Disney and their dark side. More direct eviodence. A Book:
Psychiatry and Mind Control by Dr Weinstein
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http://www.amazon.com/Psychiatry-CIA-Victims-Mind-Control/dp/0880483636

Dr Weinstein chronicles how he spent eight years fighting to help obtain justice for his father, who, along with eight other Canadians, was suing the CIA for negligence in its sponsorship of Dr Ewen Cameron's mind control experiments. That programme included lengthy periods of multiple electroshocks, hallucinogenic drugs such as LSD, prolonged sensory deprivation, forced sleep, induced insulin comas, and psychic driving - an attempt to alter behaviour by forcing patients to listen to taped messages over and over again. In his book, Dr Weinstein describes his feelings of horror and helplessness while watching his father's health and personality be destroyed as he underwent Cameron's experimental protocol. "Psychiatry and the CIA: Victims of Mind Control" is Harvey Weinstein's personal account of the events at the Allan Memorial Institute. A chronicle of a medical scandal of horrific proportions, this book is also a story of government misconduct, deceit, and cover-ups. Dr Weinstein further raises questions about the vulnerability of contemporary medicine to the abuse of patients in the context of repeated episodes of ethical transgressions during this century.

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Hi IQ,

I'm in the process of compiling an email to you...sorry I'm taking my sweet time, just waiting for random thoughts to come to me. Funny you just posted about Disney, that was one I wrote on my list.

What does asteroid HEKATE do?
Since William is the Prince of Darkness, should the public be worried? Do you think Britain's royalty should be disbanded?

What would it mean if a female (not me), has Lucifer conjuct Karma exact, both sextiling their Sun & Venus? Their Kaali also square Neptune exact. Also throw in Pluto oppose Mars 3deg into the mix. Is this overall a pretty bad combo?

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