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blugrey
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posted April 13, 2011 01:38 AM
  
So how would experimentation with drugs work or non-addictive drug use. Such as medical marijuana show up in the chart? Pisces 6th house? IP: Logged |
Lonake
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posted April 13, 2011 02:06 AM
Hard to say. Drugs are just classically Neptunian, so I'd imagine similar dynamics at work. Maybe not as much h12 ruler involvement, or h6. The 5th house rules recreation so you may want to look more at what that's doing.
I'm thinking now of people I've known who are like this and their charts have emphasis on Pisces/Neptune dynamics, particularly with the personal planets. They're not addicts or self destructive with substances the way these celebs were.
The border is when it becomes an interference in daily activities and thoughts, interfering with the way the mind works and processes, decision making, etc. and it's a habit, something no longer wanted but now needed. That's the realm of the 6th/12th. I think when you can start tracing Neptune heavily back into the health axis (6/12) is when it starts reflecting strongly on their health. Some charts posted had afflictions to a Pisces planet in the 6th, or to Neptune in the 6th, or Neptune influencing the ruler of the 6th, along with a bit of Pisces or Neptune elsewhere and h12 involvement. So it wasn't just one sector.
I would think the more of these that there are, the more of an issue it may be for the native. But then again these same factors may also reflect working in a treatment facility, or taking spiritual retreats for medical purposes, or meditating on a daily basis. These are all possible interps when you interchange the 12th and the 6th. I'll post more charts of addicts for reference. I would put medical marijuana under Alternative Medicine, where you might find h6 and Aquarius principles interchanged. Or Aquarius/Uranus/h11 emphasis in general. Since it's not accepted in all states at least here in the U.S. it would fall under being something that is not traditional, so in this country anyway it would fall under a Uranian mode of thinking. These people are currently seen as going against convention. If it's legal all over 30 yrs from now and covered under insurance plans as common practice then I would class it under regular medicine as it would then be accepted and no longer breaking tradition. IP: Logged |
blugrey
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posted April 13, 2011 02:23 AM
 This is my friend's chart. He smokes weed to help with a health issue and severe allergies. We don't know a birth time, so I'm just wondering. At this point we have him at a Sag Asc based on just appearance and actions. He's also on the border of having a Sag moon - but he seems to have more of a Scorpio one IMO. He's very ambition - he's not just sitting around smoking pot all day, he simply does it for those reasons and he doesn't find drugs a bad thing at all. Could this be a 6th house thing or just a rebellious 11th house thing? He's always tend to be a little "above the law" if that makes sense. He wants to be a lawyer ironically, but he's always been super rebellious, including this. I'm just wondering if it could be uranus placed in the 6th or 11th? Since that is pretty close also to that neptune. IP: Logged |
Lonake
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posted April 13, 2011 02:32 AM
I want to add my chart as an example of looking at h12/h6 and Neptune dynamics, simplified.I have h12 ruler in the 6th and it's afflicted, so you may think "Hey, good potential chart for an addict," so let's see:
-Moon, h12 ruler, is in the 6th
-Capricorn Moon
-Capricorn Moon in the 6th
-Capricorn Moon in the 6th square Saturn
-Saturn rules the 6th
-Saturn is in the 3rd
-h6 ruler in the 3rd
-h12 ruler square h6 ruler
You can see there are a lot of interchanges there, between the house of the mind, habits and self undoing. That's what you want, repeating factors to even begin to make a plausible determination.
My interchanges are Moon/Saturn which point to depression, none of these touch Neptune and Neptune doesn't rule any of these houses, and no Pisces is involved. And maybe you think after seeing that, "Are there any Neptunian factors in the mix in the rest of the chart, is she a druggie or an alcoholic, after all, it's v.likely that she has depression?" So you look at what Neptune Pisces h12 are doing.
-Pisces Sun
-Asc ruler in Pisces is an indirect angle connection
And that's pretty much where that one ends as we looked at my h12 factors already and there were no Pisces or Neptune associations.
Here's what Neptune does in my chart:
-Placed in the 5th
-Rules the 9th
-generational sextile to Pluto
-weak sextile to Sun
-trine MC
That's hardly anything. I may be a Pisces Sun, but I'm far from being a person heavily influenced by Neptune. I can't fathom the mind of an addict, I do take pleasures at times in Neptunian pursuits, but I could never cross the realm into the loss of control that Neptune involves. Hopefully this makes more sense. I would class my chart, with a novel interest in drugs and alcohol (Pisces Sun which rules the Asc, Neptune in the 5th as dispositor of the Sun), but not as the chart of an addict. I have an interest in taking drugs, however all I've done was smoke marijuana maybe 3 times. I drink alcohol hardly ever, maybe a drink every 2 months. For the record I was diagnosed with major depression 15 yrs ago, and did have to be hospitalized as a result (that's the 12th house mixing with the 6th), but have never suffered through addiction. IP: Logged |
Lonake
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posted April 13, 2011 03:23 AM
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Originally posted by blugrey:
This is my friend's chart. He smokes weed to help with a health issue and severe allergies. We don't know a birth time
If you used this chart, you'd have:
-h6 ruler opposed Neptune
-Moon in the 12th
-Pisces Ic, with its ruler in the 1st
-Neptune in the 1st
-Mc in Virgo for emphasis on health concerns, and it's ruler is in the 6th house of health
-I can see the legal association here, with the lineup of Capricorn in the 1st, Sadge Asc, ruler Jupiter is conj the Sun in the house of mediation, and Sun would rule the 9th.
-The Pluto in 11th would stand out from groups.
-The Capricorn placements in the 1st along with Uranus could point to both an anxious and sensitive temperament, and could point to ambition as well as feeling slightly overwhelmed/misunderstood.However it doesn't compute for me as there are no clear cut associations reflecting what you describe. It goes on in a round about way but nothing direct.
The best would be to have it rectified if there's no birth time that he can find. If he could be classed as very rebellious, then this is not the right chart. There's no Aquarius & Uranus is not making enough aspects, so it would need to be emphasized as being on an angle, probably ruling an angle and being placed on an angle to make up for the lack. But even then it'd likely be a show, like a trademark sort of rebellion rather than something felt deeply. Personally I wouldn't class his behavior as you stated as being particularly rebellious. I see in the hyp. chart that Uranus would rule the 3rd and it would be placed in the 1st, so a different way of thinking about things that ties into his personal self expression, as if espousing Uranian ideas are his way of standing out and wanting to be seen as different from the herd. IP: Logged |
starfox
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posted April 13, 2011 11:24 AM
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Originally posted by Lonake:
Well weed isn't a hard drug. But I think the OP meant drug abuse in general..But I personally wouldn't include weed, but some people do use it in an addict form, with alcohol. Neptune's blurring the lines here, lol.
Its not a hard drug but it IS an insidious drug..
It seems so soft,harmless and pleasant that it takes over and I wanted it everyday. My Neptune is in Scorpio and 9th house.. IP: Logged |
blugrey
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posted April 13, 2011 12:36 PM
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Originally posted by Lonake:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by blugrey:
[b]This is my friend's chart. He smokes weed to help with a health issue and severe allergies. We don't know a birth time
If you used this chart, you'd have:
-h6 ruler opposed Neptune
-Moon in the 12th
-Pisces Ic, with its ruler in the 1st
-Neptune in the 1st
-Mc in Virgo for emphasis on health concerns, and it's ruler is in the 6th house of health
-I can see the legal association here, with the lineup of Capricorn in the 1st, Sadge Asc, ruler Jupiter is conj the Sun in the house of mediation, and Sun would rule the 9th.
-The Pluto in 11th would stand out from groups.
-The Capricorn placements in the 1st along with Uranus could point to both an anxious and sensitive temperament, and could point to ambition as well as feeling slightly overwhelmed/misunderstood.However it doesn't compute for me as there are no clear cut associations reflecting what you describe. It goes on in a round about way but nothing direct.
The best would be to have it rectified if there's no birth time that he can find. If he could be classed as very rebellious, then this is not the right chart. There's no Aquarius & Uranus is not making enough aspects, so it would need to be emphasized as being on an angle, probably ruling an angle and being placed on an angle to make up for the lack. But even then it'd likely be a show, like a trademark sort of rebellion rather than something felt deeply. Personally I wouldn't class his behavior as you stated as being particularly rebellious. I see in the hyp. chart that Uranus would rule the 3rd and it would be placed in the 1st, so a different way of thinking about things that ties into his personal self expression, as if espousing Uranian ideas are his way of standing out and wanting to be seen as different from the herd.[/B][/QUOTE] Hm... yeah, I suppose so. It couldn't be so much of rebellion as arrogance. How would I go about rectifying this chart? Does anyone provide a service for this? I've known him for 6 years so we do have some history. I can say for sure that he does tend to have that "above the law" thing going on he's very skilled at manipulating words and the like and he usually gets his way the easiest and most laziest way possible. I'm rather more strict so I tend to see it as rebellion. :P IP: Logged |
Lonake
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posted April 13, 2011 05:40 PM
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Originally posted by starfox:
Its not a hard drug but it IS an insidious drug..
It seems so soft,harmless and pleasant that it takes over and I wanted it everyday.My Neptune is in Scorpio and 9th house..
Post your chart for comparison so we can see.
Betty Ford apparently just popped a lot of pills, which apparently falls into this category. IP: Logged |
Lonake
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posted April 14, 2011 03:31 AM
Drew Barrymore,
"She entered her first rehab for alcohol abuse at 13, relating that she had been snorting coke since she was nine. The following year, in July 1989, she made a bungling attempt at suicide when she cut her wrists with a kitchen knife. While still a teenager she wrote a tell-all autobiography, "Little Girl Lost," relating a deep and overwhelming period of loneliness from 6 to 16."
 -Pisces Sun
-Pisces Sun Angular
-Pisces Sun sq NN
-Pisces Venus
-Pisces Jupiter
-Neptune conj NN
-Neptune in the 6th
-Neptune in the 6th sq Angular Pisces Sun
-h12 ruler is Venus in Pisces which opposes h6 ruler
-again an affliction coming out of the 6th related to Pisces/Neptune
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Kurt Cobain,
"Cobain's addiction to drugs fueled the fights between him and his wife and was difficult to conquer. He suffered chronic undiagnosed stomach pains that he believed were relieved by his heroin use. For years, he had a mysterious stomach ailment, a burning nauseous pain in his upper abdominal cavity. The distress was inexplicable and elusive to diagnosis, at times causing him to curl up in misery for days."  -Pisces Sun
-Pisces Sun is h12 ruler
-Pisces Sun is in the 6th sq Neptune
-Pisces Mercury Angular
-Pisces Venus
-Pisces Saturn
-h6 ruler is Uranus in Virgo at the Asc opposed Venus conj Saturn in Pisces, obvious connection to stomach here, nerves & drugs as Virgo rules stomach complaints
-again an affliction coming out of the 6th related to Pisces/Neptune
-there's a h7 emphasis here with Venus/Saturn showing the burden that he was to his mate, and possibly his mate to him as well, which was emphasized by the dysfunctional opp to his Uranus/Pluto at the Asc, it was obviously very difficult for him to get these dynamics under control. IP: Logged |
Lonake
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posted April 14, 2011 04:19 AM
Montgomery Clift,
"Clift suffered from deep emotional problems, was sexually ambivalent, an alcohol and drug abuser. (...) Diagnoses : Psychological : Abuse Drugs (Heavy)"  -Pisces Dsc
-Pisces Uranus
-Pisces Uranus Angular
-Pisces Uranus is h6 ruler, placed in the 6th
-Neptune in the 12th
-Neptune in the 12th square Mercury
-Neptune in the 12th square Asc ruler (Mercury)
-Neptune in the 12th sq nodal axis
Here there are h6 and h12 connections with Neptune and Pisces, however the main affliction is coming out of the 12th and squaring Merc (Asc Ruler). Clift is said to have grappled with his sexual identity, and became easily overwhelmed.
"On 5/12/1956, he was leaving the home of his friend, Elizabeth Taylor, high in Coldwater Canyon, Los Angeles, when his car crashed into a telephone pole. Taylor found him crushed under the steering wheel, his face a bloody pulp. When he began to choke she put her fingers down his throat and brought out two teeth that had lodged there. Taken to the hospital, he was operated on immediately for face lacerations, a broken nose and fractured jaw. After then, Clift's drinking increased heavily. He had a special "medicine cabinet" made in his New York duplex to hold the thousands of pills he stockpiled, some legitimate but mostly recreational."
Note the relation to his Mercury as chart ruler in the 3rd and squaring Netptune in the 12th. 3rd house rules autos and driving.
Synastry note: Elizabeth Taylor's Moon is 15' Scorpio.
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Dennis Hopper,
"Hopper's addictions started early: "I used women all my life, just as I used alcohol and drugs. The idea was to break through inhibitions in order to become a better artist."(...)His years of excess culminated in a psychotic breakdown and he was committed to a Los Angeles psychiatric ward.(...)After decades of legendary exploits with drugs and women, Hopper has stayed away from alcohol and mind altering chemicals since 1989"  -Pisces Saturn
-Pisces Saturn Angular
-Pisces Saturn Angular sq Mercury (MC ruler)
-Pisces Saturn Angular sq ASC ruler
-Pisces Saturn Angular opp Neptune (IC ruler)
-Pisces IC
-Neptune, IC ruler, sq Mercury (MC ruler)
-h6 and h12 rulers aren't in aspect, h12 ruler is not afflicted by Neptune or related to Pisces save for a trine to Pisces Saturn which is not a strong indicator, except to partially explain that rehab did work in his case, h6 ruler is not afflicted. A luminary is placed in the 6th for emphasis on health matters in the life, it's in Taurus which rules hedonism, and conj Mars which is a strong marker for accentuated male sexuality.
-instead of the h6/h12 relating to Neptune/Pisces we have an angle relating strongly to Pisces/Neptune principles, which is what other charts have shown, and that angle is throwing afflictions in this chart to Neptune which is that angle's ruler
-the breaking through of inhibitions to be a better artist can be seen in the stranglehold that the Pisces Saturn had on him, it's involved in the t-square opposed its dispositor Neptune and they both square his Mercury. Note that Neptune also rules the IC.
-Pisces Saturn in the 3rd + Pisces Saturn square Mercury place a double emphasis on mental inhibition in its negative manifestation, as he had. It could also be argued that it reflected a certain tough minded artistic temperament. IP: Logged |
Lonake
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posted April 14, 2011 05:37 AM
Larry Flynt,
"he and his fourth wife, Althea, a former go-go dancer, pursued their bawdy dreams and built up a publishing empire worth millions. They lived a lifestyle of drugs, sex and dissipation. (...) Diagnoses : Psychological : Abuse Drugs (Rehab)"  -Pisces MC
-Pisces SN
-Pisces SN conj MC
-Neptune in an angular house
-Uranus is the 9th house ruler of publishing and is placed in the 12th house of self undoing square to the nodal axis
-h12 ruler of self undoing placed in Scorpio in the 5th house of pleasure/creative pursuits squares h6 ruler Pluto
Here there is angle emphasis with Pisces on the MC and having significance as it's conj the SN. Neptune has no afflictions and isn't connected to the 6th or 12th house, neither is the sign of Pisces. The main thrust in this chart as it relates to his health is Pluto as h6 ruler square to his Sun/Venus in Scorpio. Venus rules the 5th house of pleasure, the 12th house of self undoing, Sun rules the 3rd house of writing and communications. There's drug influence in his life, but the main emphasis has been Scorpio related principles, such as pornography, depraved sexual acts (sex with a chicken), bereavement, AIDS, and incest.
Note the irony as well with being paralyzed from the waist down. Again, h6 ruler heavily afflicted. Also Sun/Venus in Scorpio is squared by their dispositor, Pluto. Also note that the 8th house ruler, Saturn, is placed in the 12th house of confinement. His Moon/Pluto in Leo is placed in the 3rd house of mobility and he prefers a gold-plated wheelchair, said to have an $80,000.00 price tag.
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Johnny Cash,
"Cash went on the road touring where he was soon washing down uppers and downers with alcohol to survive the grueling pace. (...) Cash finally won his legendary fight with drugs and alcohol in 1983 after the family confronted him and he checked himself in the Betty Ford Clinic for 44 days. (...) He is known for his concern for the abused and underprivileged, including those in prisons. "I don't see any good coming out of a prison. You put them in like animals and tear the souls and guts out of them, and let them out worse than they went in." (...) In 1997, at age 65, Cash was diagnosed with Shy-Drager syndrome, a degenerative nerve disease that can cause tremors and muscle stiffness. (...) Diagnoses : Psychological : Abuse Drugs (Rehab)"  -Pisces Asc
-Pisces NN
-Pisces Asc conj NN
-Neptune is Asc/NN ruler and is placed in the 6th
-Pisces Sun
-Pisces Sun in the 12th
-Pisces Sun in the 12th opp Neptune
-Pisces Sun in the 12th opp Neptune in the 6th
-Pisces Sun rules the 6th
-Pisces Mercury
-Pisces Mercury in the 12th
-Pisces Mercury in the 12th opp Neptune
-Pisces Mercury in the 12th opp Neptune in the 6th
-Pisces Mars
-Pisces Mars in the 12th
-Pisces Mars in the 12th opp Neptune
-Pisces Mars in the 12th opp Neptune in the 6th
Obvious emphasis in this chart. Neptune/Pisces combined with h6/12 principles, also Pisces involved with an angle. However, he was involved not only with drugs, but with music, religion and the prison system. The nervous system is ruled by Mercury/h6 principles.
"I always knew I was going to be a singer" he said, " from the age of four." His mother knew it too and managed singing lessons at 50 cents an hour, taking in washing to pay for them. Cash worked with the family in the fields picking cotton, but his younger sister Reba recalls, "It seemed like Daddy was always having to tell him to get with the work because he was staring off at a bird or an airplane or just leaning on his hoe." IP: Logged |
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posted April 14, 2011 09:19 AM
Lonake, thank you for taking the time and effort to post up charts, while looking for signatures. One question....Of the charts you have posted, how many do you think have accurate birth times? Nothing worse than doing lots of research only to find the information is wrong, thereby not proving or disproving your signatures. You should know better than that! Good effort though. p.s weed is very strong nowadays, and should be classed higher than it already is. When my 12th ruler returned, I found a new drug that I liked the most. IP: Logged |
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posted April 14, 2011 02:37 PM
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Originally posted by Lonake:
Post your chart for comparison so we can see.
Betty Ford apparently just popped a lot of pills, which apparently falls into this category.
My chart. (sorry I don't know how to post it as an image here) http://www.astro.com/tmpd/c486fileRkUABp-u1023114180/astro_w2at_01_ajm_hp.67050.7142.g if
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posted April 14, 2011 07:35 PM
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Originally posted by Coffee:
Lonake, thank you for taking the time and effort to post up charts, while looking for signatures. One question....Of the charts you have posted, how many do you think have accurate birth times?
You're welcome,
The charts posted are rated A or AA and all bio quotes are taken from Astrodatabank.IP: Logged |
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posted April 14, 2011 07:37 PM
Starfox,
 -Pisces intercepted in the 1st
-Neptune opp Moon
-Neptune opp Moon which rules the 6th
-Neptune sq Venus
-12th house Mercury square h12 ruler of self undoing Saturn which is placed in the 2nd house of self worth
-again Neptune involvement with the 6th house, this one involves a personal planet
-no afflictions coming out of the 6th only the 12th, Pisces being intercepted in the 1st is the only direct angle connection.
-an indirect angle connection is the IC ruler being placed in the 12th, also a planet at the ASC sq Neptune. IP: Logged |
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posted April 15, 2011 01:20 PM
Chart rectifications of these celebs are welcome.
Attacks without merit aren't encouraged.And if someone else wants to contribute what they see in the charts, that's good too  IP: Logged |
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posted April 15, 2011 02:08 PM
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Originally posted by Coffee:
House 12 for drug use (of all kinds) in aspect with 1st ruler. Stopping drugs is house 12, and house 11 (end of(drug)
It may be short and sweet but you have all the contribution you need for this. Now go learn some astrology, then rectify charts and see if this signature comes up with anything. Also, it's worth noting that to find a person who doesn't smoke, drink or take drugs (12th house subject) you would find people who are in the minority of the population. IP: Logged |
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posted April 15, 2011 02:13 PM
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Originally posted by Lonake:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Coffee:
[b]Lonake, thank you for taking the time and effort to post up charts, while looking for signatures. One question....Of the charts you have posted, how many do you think have accurate birth times?
You're welcome,
The charts posted are rated A or AA and all bio quotes are taken from Astrodatabank.[/B][/QUOTE]I know one of them that isn't true. Your source is a site for looking at birth times of celebrities. I'd imagine with the power these celebs have, some element of control will always be there  Lois Rodden has an excellent reputation. IP: Logged |
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posted April 15, 2011 02:16 PM
I've been known to have a drug or two, something which is easy to blame my problems on. Doing well in astrology is the other thing to blame I have 12th ruler, Saturn at 0 degrees Libra, the most apparent feature of a chart. Could that 12th house ruler Capricorn say something about my name COFFEE. This excellent commercial brand I have? Possible. 1st ruler Uranus is at 22 Scorpio, in sextile with that Saturn in Libra. IP: Logged |
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posted April 15, 2011 02:28 PM
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Originally posted by Lonake:
Starfox,
-Pisces intercepted in the 1st
-Neptune opp Moon
-Neptune opp Moon which rules the 6th
-Neptune sq Venus
-12th house Mercury square h12 ruler of self undoing Saturn which is placed in the 2nd house of self worth
-again Neptune involvement with the 6th house, this one involves a personal planet
-no afflictions coming out of the 6th only the 12th, Pisces being intercepted in the 1st is the only direct angle connection.
-an indirect angle connection is the IC ruler being placed in the 12th, also a planet at the ASC sq Neptune.
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posted April 15, 2011 02:30 PM
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Originally posted by Lonake:
Starfox,
-Pisces intercepted in the 1st
-Neptune opp Moon
-Neptune opp Moon which rules the 6th
-Neptune sq Venus
-12th house Mercury square h12 ruler of self undoing Saturn which is placed in the 2nd house of self worth
-again Neptune involvement with the 6th house, this one involves a personal planet
-no afflictions coming out of the 6th only the 12th, Pisces being intercepted in the 1st is the only direct angle connection.
-an indirect angle connection is the IC ruler being placed in the 12th, also a planet at the ASC sq Neptune.
Thanks, but I am quite a beginner to astrology, can you put it in more laymans terms? Also I've tried most of the 'other' drugs around,but thankfully never long enough to develop any addiction to them. IP: Logged |
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posted April 15, 2011 09:27 PM
Hi Starfox,
I put it more in a list so that it may be easier to read. You can research individual aspects at leisure. At the beginning of the thread people hypothesized Neptune/Pisces, and I had vaguely recalled Neptune being related to the 6th house (of health and habits), so decided to look at charts. When we talk about rulers, we look at the sign on the cusp of the house in question and once we have the planetary ruler we go in search of where it's placed and what it's doing. Angles are the 4 main axis points, ASC on the left, IC at the bottom, DSC on the right, MC at the top, these have prime importance in every chart. Anything else I can elaborate on let me know.IP: Logged |
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posted April 15, 2011 09:30 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Coffee:
I've been known to have a drug or two, something which is easy to blame my problems on. Doing well in astrology is the other thing to blame I have 12th ruler, Saturn at 0 degrees Libra, the most apparent feature of a chart. Could that 12th house ruler Capricorn say something about my name COFFEE. This excellent commercial brand I have? Possible. 1st ruler Uranus is at 22 Scorpio, in sextile with that Saturn in Libra.
I like coffee as well, tho have yet to settle on a preferred brand.IP: Logged |
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posted April 16, 2011 07:24 PM
I find this conversation interesting. Here are my Pisces/Neptune placements and aspects.Pisces moon in the 12th house.
Scorpio Neptune in the 7th The moon trines Neptune.
The moon opposes 6th house Mercury, Venus,(which are Libra) Uranus and Pluto (Virgo) Neptune squares 5th house Leo Mars.
Neptune sextiles Uranus, Midheaven (Capricorn) and Pluto. I'd much appreciate if someone could tell me, based on the information, why I've never had any drug/alcohol addictions-unless you count cigarettes. I'm not being snide, if that's how it comes across. I really want to know, because the way I'm reading it, I should be the poster child for drug addiction. Thanks. IP: Logged |
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posted April 16, 2011 08:13 PM
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Originally posted by pisces moon:
I find this conversation interesting. Here are my Pisces/Neptune placements and aspects.Pisces moon in the 12th house.
Scorpio Neptune in the 7th The moon trines Neptune.
The moon opposes 6th house Mercury, Venus,(which are Libra) Uranus and Pluto (Virgo) Neptune squares 5th house Leo Mars.
Neptune sextiles Uranus, Midheaven (Capricorn) and Pluto. I'd much appreciate if someone could tell me, based on the information, why I've never had any drug/alcohol addictions-unless you count cigarettes. I'm not being snide, if that's how it comes across. I really want to know, because the way I'm reading it, I should be the poster child for drug addiction. Thanks.
No, not the poster child, look at some of the other charts. Plus there's more to h12 matters than drugs  IP: Logged | |
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