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Topic: Do you all believe in destiny?
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RunAroundScreaming
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posted April 16, 2011 09:26 PM
  
Yes or no?I think after finding outabout astrology, it is much easier to believe in destiny, don't you think? But I dunno of I completely believe in it or not IP: Logged |
blugrey
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posted April 16, 2011 09:31 PM
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CrazyAquarian
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posted April 16, 2011 09:38 PM
I may not be old and wise but I've been through enough to see and believe that everything happens for a reason. I think most people who don't believe it is because its not what THEY wanted.IP: Logged |
blugrey
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posted April 16, 2011 09:50 PM
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RunAroundScreaming
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posted April 16, 2011 10:00 PM
CrazyAquarian, my heart agrees with you, but my mind says "No, that's not rational. That's impossible. We have free will, and life is what you make it!"IP: Logged |
CrazyAquarian
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posted April 16, 2011 10:20 PM
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Originally posted by RunAroundScreaming:
CrazyAquarian, my heart agrees with you, but my mind says "No, that's not rational. That's impossible. We have free will, and life is what you make it!"
lol Air Water fight?  IP: Logged |
RunAroundScreaming
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posted April 16, 2011 10:36 PM
Lol I'm a cancer.IP: Logged |
CrazyAquarian
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posted April 16, 2011 10:55 PM
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Lol I'm a cancer.
All cancer? O_o
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RunAroundScreaming
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posted April 16, 2011 11:05 PM
Oh, I see what you're saying, haha. Actually, my chart is deflated..it has no air.IP: Logged |
RunAroundScreaming
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posted April 16, 2011 11:12 PM
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hannarama
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posted April 17, 2011 01:42 AM
I'm torn on this. On one hand (and that's a very large hand) I believe everything happens for a reason our destiny is fulfilled when we die. On the other hand, destiny somewhat restricts our free will by implying that everything was planned from the start. However, my free will disagrees with that idea. Therefore, it's fair to say I believe for every action there's a consequence...IP: Logged |
rajji
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posted April 17, 2011 01:52 AM
I do believe that everything is predestined..in the sense that the actions for your curent free will, will give results in the next life.
So Karma has a life span of one or many life times. Thus a person's actions in the past exert an influence on their present life; while a person's actions in the present shape the future.If one commits exceptionally grave offences, that karma may carry over, causing that person to suffer in another lifetime, three lifetimes or even more.Good karma, will also carry over far beyond this lifetime.IP: Logged |
Yrone
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posted April 17, 2011 01:55 AM
Hmmm, I think some things/encounters that happen in your life are ment to happen, but it is what you make out of them where the free will comes into play.Like, there is a "possible destiny" instead of a "definite destiny". IP: Logged |
RunAroundScreaming
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posted April 17, 2011 04:28 AM
Ah, Yrone. Bingo. You nailed it. ! Now I know what my opinion on destiny has been all along. lol.IP: Logged |
maira
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posted April 17, 2011 05:32 AM
I also agree with Yrone, I think of these events as milestones (I told you about a computer generated report which stated "she will be married at 23", and marry she did  ).I also believe that our free will is stronger or lesser based on our charts. For instance, someone with a lot of retrogrades, who supposedly made a lot of mistakes in prior lives may find that his reactions are almost an automated response instead of true free will. Same goes for children, I think the rougher the chart - the harder they will come into their own free will.
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VenusDiSirius
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posted April 17, 2011 05:45 AM
I believe in dreams,and the energy of pursuit.
If sth was meant to happen,it was because of constant feelings/desires that lead to one,the only option,end. Therefore,sense and idea of determinalism.IP: Logged |
abcd efg
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posted April 17, 2011 06:12 AM
I think its both destiny and little choice. Like in Harry Potter (1) when the hat decides to put him in one house he chooses the other. And then there is a very important dialogue between Dumbledoor and Harry towards the end, if i recollect correctly,when he states that what matters finally is what you choose.IP: Logged |
dysfunctionalmystic
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posted April 17, 2011 07:28 AM
Destiny cannot exist without freedom and freedom cannot exist without destiny. It is one of the paradoxes of human existence.Rollo May wrote an excellent book called freedom and destiny that is well worth a read. Even using astrology...we still have a choice as to how we direct our behaviour. IP: Logged |
VenusDiSirius
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posted April 17, 2011 08:09 AM
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Originally posted by abcd efg:
I think its both destiny and little choice. Like in Harry Potter (1) when the hat decides to put him in one house he chooses the other. And then there is a very important dialogue between Dumbledoor and Harry towards the end, if i recollect correctly,when he states that what matters finally is what you choose.
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abcd efg
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posted April 17, 2011 10:36 AM
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Originally posted by dysfunctionalmystic:
Destiny cannot exist without freedom and freedom cannot exist without destiny. It is one of the paradoxes of human existence.Rollo May wrote an excellent book called freedom and destiny that is well worth a read. Even using astrology...we still have a choice as to how we direct our behaviour.
Well said. After all what is destiny? Its only what we chose in earlier lives. And even now as we live our destiny how we react to it is more or less upto us. IP: Logged |
Ami Anne
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posted April 17, 2011 12:12 PM
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Originally posted by blugrey:
I'm a Christian... so I believe that everything happens for a reason.
I am too  ------------------
Life is lived in the sand box.
He who controls his Spirit is greater than he who controls a city
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Ami Anne
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posted April 17, 2011 12:14 PM
This is my philosophy of destiny gotten from my own life and,particularly ,my own mistakes. I think God will allow you to go off your best course. Your free will allows for that. However,if you veer greatly ,you will suffer,often greatly.
For me ,NOW,if God does not open a door,I will not walk through. I do beg him,though. I ask for what I want. I cry and sob but if He doesn't give it to me,I know it is out of love cuz God is love . ------------------
Life is lived in the sand box.
He who controls his Spirit is greater than he who controls a city
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maira
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posted April 17, 2011 03:21 PM
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
I do beg him,though. I ask for what I want. I cry and sob but if He doesn't give it to me,I know it is out of love cuz God is love .
Hey Ami! Do not ask, thank 
If you're asking, the universe gives you that experience, of not having, of wanting. Have faith that the experience will happen and it will. Be thankful, for it will happen. 'He replied, "Because you have so little faith. I tell you the truth, if you have faith as small as a mustard seed, you can say to this mountain, 'Move from here to there' and it will move. Nothing will be impossible for you."'
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starfox
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posted April 17, 2011 04:00 PM
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Originally posted by Yrone:
Hmmm, I think some things/encounters that happen in your life are ment to happen, but it is what you make out of them where the free will comes into play.Like, there is a "possible destiny" instead of a "definite destiny".
I agree with this. IP: Logged |
RMChex
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posted April 17, 2011 04:06 PM
Yes.I've had way too many co-incidences in my life to not believe in it. I believe that we can go with destiny, or go against it - or a mixture of both (which is what 99% of people probably do). The times that I have a bad feeling about something I'm doing, or I know I probably shouldn't but go ahead and do it anyway - are the times I am probably going against destiny, and I usually come to regret my actions. I can usually feel when I'm doing what the stars think I should be, it feels 'right' and I'm at one with myself. For me, destiny and intuition are linked. Regards
Rachel ------------------
"Vision without Action is a daydream... Action without Vision is a nightmare." IP: Logged |
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