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Topic: Arrgghh What is Cancer all about??
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Joey123k Knowflake Posts: 56 From: Far And Beyond Registered: Apr 2011
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posted April 22, 2011 05:53 AM
@ runaround..i know its not all the girls but i did alot of searching and writing about the things which bother me... lol mind u it gets quite crowded in my head... i have only had 4 relationships and on 3 of them i have been cheated on...i realised that it wasnt them..it was me..im a was just too nice to them..here im being the best i can be..i love sports, i study hard, i suf, i play guitar, i spent all of last year working out so my body is muscled up, i even cook, im always loyal and nice to my partner and im always myself and real with them and yet i have come up short to guyz who smoke and drink all day..guys who have no respect for women in general and guys only looking for sex..i mean i know u dont think nice guys finish last but put try looking things from my persoective once,,how would you feel.....sorry i have to say that i meant all of this in the most nicest way possible  ------------------ For beautiful eyes, look for the good in others; for beautiful lips, speak only words of kindness; and for poise, walk with the knowledge that you are never alone. Audrey Hepburn IP: Logged |
RunAroundScreaming Knowflake Posts: 712 From: USA Registered: Oct 2010
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posted April 22, 2011 06:01 AM
Thanks for that last sentence. Lol. Aw. You really are nice!Dude. Being nice is a good thing. Don't let anyone ever tell you you're too nice. Anyone who does isn't evolved enough to be that nice themselves yet. Nice people make others feel good, not the opposite! Like that last statement you wrote That was nice. We need more nice people in the world. First of all, these girls cheated on you. That shows that they can't be loyal. That's their problem, not yours. Cheating has nothing to do with you. It's their fault. Why couldn't they talk to you about it rather than being retarded and cheating? Plus the second thing is that they went to guys who smoke and drink all day and soubd like total losers. Guy, what kind of girls are you getting involved with? ****** ? Slutty women? Lol. The solution is never for you become more of a jerk....but for you to find a nice girl....like yourself! And I mean that in the nicest way possible too. Haha. . Ps cant believe you're up at this time. I thought I was the only loony bird who was up at the wee hours of the night. Oh, also, as a fellow Cancer, I also went through these things at one point. I also thought that other people's mistreatment was a result of something I was doing wrong. But don't be fooled. A lot of people are just unevolved, honestly. So many people have issues. We water signs seem to be the ones who are most evolved and see above all that craziness to the enlightened way of being haha. IP: Logged |
Joey123k Knowflake Posts: 56 From: Far And Beyond Registered: Apr 2011
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posted April 22, 2011 06:17 AM
haha thanx yea i know that nice people make other people feel good it made sense to me because after cheating on me they come running back and beg me to take them back..and im just sitting there going what????are u serious??? being the stubborn cancer that im i never do..as far as getting involved with these girls go i guess that is partially my fault because i dont judge the girls i date...i mean if a girl comes and shows interest in me im never the person to say go away ur not good enough for me..( the nice guy thing again)..i just cant be rude to females at all..its against my nature..yea i really wished they wud have came and talked to me if they had a problem...i dont bite.....much..but i wud have happily let them go( yes im not clingy) ... sometimes i do feel that if i changed my self to be the jerk most girls go for ( im certain u r not one of them ) then i wouldnt have these problems... haha loony bird im afraid i only come out when its dark im nocturnal P.S excuse my spelling..im typing in the dark laying on bed and i have the habit of not proofreading!! ------------------ For beautiful eyes, look for the good in others; for beautiful lips, speak only words of kindness; and for poise, walk with the knowledge that you are never alone. Audrey Hepburn IP: Logged |
Benedict Moon* Knowflake Posts: 1996 From: Avendesora Registered: May 2009
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posted April 22, 2011 04:52 PM
quote: Originally posted by Joey123k: i must say benedict that that is a very loose intepretation...however there are somethings in there that do resonate with me..i wouldd say im a walking contradiction to cancer itself mostly
Yeah, I concurred after reading it over. I have a Steven Arroyo book that does better in depth. I'll post that in a minute (with your mars sign) if you want. Anyways, I think your Mars is what anchors you. Its in earthy-solid Taurus so you're probably much less volatile than say....me, LOL, with the Aries Mars. And my advice is that you don't have to be too nice, but you don't have to revamp yourself either. The most important thing is your integrity. IP: Logged |
Joey123k Knowflake Posts: 56 From: Far And Beyond Registered: Apr 2011
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posted April 22, 2011 05:13 PM
thanks benedict...i would very much appreciare that....how do you mean btw when you said i dont have to be too nice..because my best friend gave me that advice and said that being too nice makes it easy for other people to use u...god i miss her so much *sigh*------------------ For beautiful eyes, look for the good in others; for beautiful lips, speak only words of kindness; and for poise, walk with the knowledge that you are never alone. Audrey Hepburn IP: Logged |
Benedict Moon* Knowflake Posts: 1996 From: Avendesora Registered: May 2009
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posted April 22, 2011 05:25 PM
Well IMO, being too nice is just as bad as being too mean because no one benefits. The person using you sure doesn't learn, and you the person being used just ends up...being used. Its important to stand up for yourself and whats right, and you can't always be nice when you do that. IP: Logged |
Joey123k Knowflake Posts: 56 From: Far And Beyond Registered: Apr 2011
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posted April 22, 2011 05:35 PM
hmmm i see what you are saying..very knowledgeable..jus sayin that i do stand up 4 whats right i cant bear to see see something wrong. however even with the standing up somehow i can easily change a persons opinion without even arguing with them or hurting their feelings..i would try to get angry but people are so easily convinced that im right it never gets anything but nice..cancer cancer cancer!!what shall i do with you!! ------------------ For beautiful eyes, look for the good in others; for beautiful lips, speak only words of kindness; and for poise, walk with the knowledge that you are never alone. Audrey Hepburn IP: Logged |
Artemis Newflake Posts: 7 From: Registered: Apr 2011
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posted April 23, 2011 01:30 AM
I'd like to suggest a couple sites to help you get a better understanding of your whole chart. Though you have a lot in Cancer (my Cancer Moon feels for you), you've got other planets in other signs in various houses and of course, some fun and not so fun aspects going on between them.The chart Lonake put up for you was from Astro.com. I suggest going there yourself because they have a handy dandy way to see your full chart descriptions for free. If this link doesn't take you to it straight away, click Free horoscopes in the left side menu, then Interactive Horoscopes, then Astroclick Portrait (and Astroclick Love later ). Put in your birth info and you should see a simplified version of your chart (you can register if you want it to remember your chart and others you add). You click on a planet (such as the circle with the dot that represents the sun) or on a sign or one of the lines which represent the aspects (relationships) between the planets, or anything really. And you'll get a few paragraphs describing such and such with such and such. They're not always the most accurate or in depth of descriptions but brevity is useful when you're first learning astrology. The other site I go back to a lot and that has some good introductory articles is CafeAstrology. Especially for the astrology of love  IP: Logged |
4lifephrases Knowflake Posts: 53 From: Registered: Nov 2010
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posted April 23, 2011 01:45 AM
Hi Joey!First of all I should say lots of people have already answered on this La La Land. Not always that happens but that's a good start.I am actually envious ;-) I was going to start a thread on Cancer Man and maybe something related OK...I am going to tell you from my real life experience why I haven't ended up with Cancer Man.I am married to someone who is Aries. I had a choice to choose between a good looking young Cancerian struggling to make big and somebody who was successful, older and Libran.Coincidentally they both had same name.This had nothing to do with money but Libran was the difficult lesson I had to learn. I can see how I couldn't have lived same life with my Aries now if I hadn't chosen Libra. I didn't see future with Cancer. I had also suspected that Cancer really wanted to be successful and wanted to be around lots of woman. It was his Dream so I leave it there. So sometimes woman or people wouldn't want to be with you not because it is your problem.It isn't what they are ready for.I can say I wouldn't have been able to appreciate Cancer as despite being Water Sign. That is one thing but some of the reasons why it is difficult to date Cancer are : 1) I have found that Cancer communicates very little to the person they love. When people are in love they want to be courted and communicated LOTS. Not always when women says No is No.Sometimes women are scared as well and needs reassurance.I am not saying being pushy here. 2)Cancers are too busy to prove that they can get another girl and lots of them.Giving mixed signal or well saying "I need you although I can have several girls" is according to me is lame. If you love someone prove your love don't try to save your ego. 3)They take slight negative comments as big rejections and brood over it rather then trying to understand other person. 4)They Stalk and do insane things in the end. Joey: Have you been that honest about your feelings to your girl? Because most of the time I have seen Cancer getting obsess in their head but are unable to SHOW their love and then suddenly would be doing all silly things which would scare someone.
Have you tried to reassure her or question why she thinks cancer is a bad sign? Try to know her past like a friend. The question is are you on girl count or in love with her seriously? Do you think she is a nice person? Is the rejection bothering you again? OR are you too tired to try after 3 failed relationship? Not everything happens the way it did in past. If she gives you enough reasons and if you think she really doesn't want you great.Move on.Don't brood. --------------------------------------------- I have seen many guys asking me out and seriously I didn't have time but that didn't mean I wanted to blew them out.They thought or they weren't keen. Good Luck !Joey IP: Logged |
Joey123k Knowflake Posts: 56 From: Far And Beyond Registered: Apr 2011
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posted April 23, 2011 05:42 AM
@ Atermis thank you i will check it out after i get sum sleep...had a long day...@ 4life as i have said im a walking contradiction to my cancer...you see im not the guy i once was...if i get critisised it bounces off me now...once upon a time it didnt...however this girl who shot me down i feel nothing from her but my main concern for this was wat is cancer and why do women take it as a bad thing...u see i have never had problem of expressing my attraction to anyone as far as love goes my so called partners never let our relationship to develop to that stage..its not complicated u see...they cheated on me coz im sweet n senstive but they want bad boy types..the moment i understood this i let go...it must have been like 2 weeks maybe after breaking up..so im not clingy and desperate....when i like someone i dont go around trying to show them i can get several girls..its more the other way round....another contradiction here i dont get jealous because i always see thru the attempts....the relationships normally start out with amazing communication but once the girls cheated they began to distant themselves from me...i have said this before that if they were looking for someone else i would kindly let them go because i did this with my fourth relationship...she told me that we were great together but she cant see a future for us so i let her go...never felt better in my life before that moment..there is nothing quite like an honest girl.. i think stalking and being clingy is just creepy..however there is one thing i have to say ...as far as reassuring the girl who rejected me just because i was born on june 30th goes im no girls doormat...she rejected me end of story..im not going to stick around to make sure she is reassured...i have my self respect and im not willing to sell my soul to the devil........my apologise if u think im being rude i meant not disrepect to you at all ------------------ For beautiful eyes, look for the good in others; for beautiful lips, speak only words of kindness; and for poise, walk with the knowledge that you are never alone. Audrey Hepburn IP: Logged |
Benedict Moon* Knowflake Posts: 1996 From: Avendesora Registered: May 2009
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posted April 23, 2011 03:04 PM
^^^Totally agree with this. . It really sounds like taurus mars-jupiter virgo trine is your anchor for all that water. And while you do have alot of Cancer, I see your Taurus Mars as your anchor. Its a very straightfoward placement and that's perfect for someone with a Cancer stellium, because we lose the passive agressiveness. Artemis gave you some good sites there, you should use them to understand your chart better.  Anywho, I'll have Steven Arroyo posted up tonight, things have just been crazy. IP: Logged |
RunAroundScreaming Knowflake Posts: 712 From: USA Registered: Oct 2010
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posted April 23, 2011 07:52 PM
No offense, but Artemis you must be an air or fire sign because an earth or water sign would understand where the cancer man is coming from since they are the same way.IP: Logged |
Joey123k Knowflake Posts: 56 From: Far And Beyond Registered: Apr 2011
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posted April 23, 2011 08:15 PM
thanks benedict....no pressure..btw thanx runaround i had to read all ur post twice to get it thru the thick skull of mine.. ..i think as far as looking for a nice girl like myself goes i think that is a war lost before started but im not the one to quit!! ------------------ For beautiful eyes, look for the good in others; for beautiful lips, speak only words of kindness; and for poise, walk with the knowledge that you are never alone. Audrey Hepburn IP: Logged |
Benedict Moon* Knowflake Posts: 1996 From: Avendesora Registered: May 2009
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posted April 24, 2011 12:14 AM
Okay, this book has Mars/Venus/Moon interps and Im going to start with mars so you can get a better idea of something else in your chart (and because the Cancer placement interps are a bit eye-roll-inducing...yet again). Mars in Taurus
When Mars is found in the sign Taurus, the aggressive urges are held under control but should never be underestimated, for they are stubbornly powerful and persistent. In fact, although Taurus is rarely described as "aggressive" in astrological literature, those with Mars (or Sun) in the sign of the bull are among the most willful, purposeful, obstinate beings in the world in terms of unrelentingly pursuing their own desires and goals. At best, they are great builders or creators, industrious but also often with artistic flair. Mars' position always shows the modus operandi (method of operation), and in slow, deliberate Taurus the pace is never hurried and there is a love of routine that can be seen as (and sometimes is) lethargy. However, to the surprise of many onlookers, their steady persistence of effort over a number of years quite often yields considerable accomplishments. They are living examples of the old adage "slow and steady wins the race." There is a streak of complacency, smug self-satisfaction, and even debilitating laziness in many of these people, but it's usually periodic and dominant in only a few of these individuals. And in my experience, those people are then extremely unhappy as they get older if they did not exert themselves to achieve something concrete in life. In a few cases, I have seen severe self-hatred and bitterness develop as the substantial anger of Taurus is turned inwards. The unapologetic love of and indulgence in all sorts of pleasures of the senses are characteristic of Taurus, and those with with Mars here pursue pleasure, and often luxury and possessions, with great fervor. They often crave "the finer things of life" and feel that they indeed deserve them because they are obviously special and merit the best (okay, thats kind of stretching it). They exhibit a great pride about adornments, clothes, money, and possessions; and they act childishly temperamental if their possessions are threatened. This sense of deserving abundance that seems innate in Mars in Taurus (and Taurean planets in general) also leads to a chronic wastefulness that creates conflicts in relationships with those attuned to more frugal signs, such as Scorpio, Cancer, and Aquarius.
Essence of Mars in Taurus
-Asserts self steadily, retentively, conservatively, and stubbornly. -Initiative and drive directed towards consolidation, productivity, comfort, and enjoyment of life's simple pleasures; often a creative and/or artistic flair. -Physical energy and sexual drive are influenced by a deep appreciation of the physical senses. IP: Logged |
Joey123k Knowflake Posts: 56 From: Far And Beyond Registered: Apr 2011
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posted April 24, 2011 12:29 AM
hmm i appreciate ur efforts benedict thank you some of the stuff do resonate with me...haha i get a bit lazy sum days but i guess most guys do that...guys love their lazy days.....so do you think that despite all the cancer i have do you think the mars in taurus dominates?? is this why there are so many contradictions?? once again thank you!!you have put in alot of effort to educate me on my lil confusion...very much appreciated  ------------------ For beautiful eyes, look for the good in others; for beautiful lips, speak only words of kindness; and for poise, walk with the knowledge that you are never alone. Audrey Hepburn IP: Logged |
4lifephrases Knowflake Posts: 53 From: Registered: Nov 2010
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posted April 24, 2011 04:12 AM
Joey: Thanks for spelling out as it is difficult to know on forums what people think & want to do. Some people come here not knowing what to do but I guess you already knew that. You were just not sure why? Atleast one good thing happened after that girl is that you are getting interested in astrology.lol...I was unsure about your situation, maybe bit uncalled for but you get the idea about Cancer and woman.Why woman try to run away? Sometimes not their fault & sometimes is. You have got all the ideas from Beneddict I guess.You are enjoying knowing about yourself. IP: Logged |
Joey123k Knowflake Posts: 56 From: Far And Beyond Registered: Apr 2011
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posted April 24, 2011 04:43 AM
@ 4life..yea well i came here very confused about this cancer thing...lol yea thanx to the girl i have a new found interest in astrology...well you see im only trying to see if i really should be the nice guy or just be some kind of a jerk because being sweet n senstive has screwd with my love life...lol i even got told by a girl that im not the type she will date but the type she would marry...what do you think that said to me...i was always confused as to what, where or how i became like this...and then i was introduced to linda land...all confusions BAM!!! gone.. ------------------ For beautiful eyes, look for the good in others; for beautiful lips, speak only words of kindness; and for poise, walk with the knowledge that you are never alone. Audrey Hepburn IP: Logged |
4lifephrases Knowflake Posts: 53 From: Registered: Nov 2010
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posted April 24, 2011 04:47 AM
The post wasn't for you but my experiences and how I saw some people who were Cancer and made those respective mistakes. Some things were common and lots were not. No 2 Cancers were exactly same.Astrology helps to generalize people and understand them but there is always danger of not being open to know someone unless read their charts. Half knowledge of astrology can be dangerous and majority of people are like that by reading newspaper horoscopes. I am a Scorpio and first thing I have to deal with is oh ! you are scary and secretive...lol...Such is life! IP: Logged |
Joey123k Knowflake Posts: 56 From: Far And Beyond Registered: Apr 2011
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posted April 24, 2011 04:55 AM
hahahah im ashamed to say..my friends who im living with right now are scopios and thats what my reaction was when i found out...sorry i had read way too much internet junk that day------------------ For beautiful eyes, look for the good in others; for beautiful lips, speak only words of kindness; and for poise, walk with the knowledge that you are never alone. Audrey Hepburn IP: Logged |
Benedict Moon* Knowflake Posts: 1996 From: Avendesora Registered: May 2009
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posted April 24, 2011 02:47 PM
quote: Originally posted by Joey123k: hmm i appreciate ur efforts benedict thank you some of the stuff do resonate with me...haha i get a bit lazy sum days but i guess most guys do that...guys love their lazy days.....so do you think that despite all the cancer i have do you think the mars in taurus dominates?? is this why there are so many contradictions?? once again thank you!!you have put in alot of effort to educate me on my lil confusion...very much appreciated 
I think the Taurus Mars helps to assert the Cancer energy in a much more straightfoward manner than it would otherwise be expressed. The contradictions in you feel in your personality are probably coming from the major oppositions between your Cancer stellium and the Uranus/Neptune in Cap.
I also want to say you have a Fixed T-Square (an configuration in which an opposition is squared by another planet--the focal point) but the Orb is a bit too wide for my tastes. I will say though that your issues with being too nice sounds to me like classic male with Mars square Saturn. Saturn is *training* your mars here, meaning you're workrate is great, but your ability to express anger...not so great. In other words, you probably hold things in until you explode (which is actually typical of most Taurean Mars anyways since they're very peace-loving).
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Joey123k Knowflake Posts: 56 From: Far And Beyond Registered: Apr 2011
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posted April 24, 2011 06:47 PM
now that sounds more like me...i did have that problem..alot of trouble expressing my anger..i did explode time to time..i actually knew this about me so i acted on it...taking all the anger and frustration out in the gym its really helpful------------------ For beautiful eyes, look for the good in others; for beautiful lips, speak only words of kindness; and for poise, walk with the knowledge that you are never alone. Audrey Hepburn IP: Logged |
Artemis Newflake Posts: 7 From: Registered: Apr 2011
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posted April 24, 2011 10:15 PM
quote: Originally posted by RunAroundScreaming: No offense, but Artemis you must be an air or fire sign because an earth or water sign would understand where the cancer man is coming from since they are the same way.
When did I ever say I didn't understand where he was coming from? I simply suggested sites he could go to to learn more about astrology. IP: Logged |