posted May 06, 2011 02:16 PM            

Here is not going about any square, but here is his Saturn square your Moon. In the book about love between two people there is also explanation: if his malefic planet has square to our Venus or Moon, we are going to suffer. Here is most important just Saturn, because Saturn is the planet of evil.

Since two years I am reading one Esoteric Magazine, where Astrologer writes about his clients (all women). Almost all have Saturn (from men) square their Moon. Astrologer explains this aspect as aspect connected with Past Life. He gave advice to one woman: if she marries this man she is going to suffer very much. That was three years before she came again to the Astrologer. She told him, she married that man and after marriage her husband changed totally. From very gentle and loving man he became a monster. Of course by second visit by Astrologer, she was divorced.

I can give you my example:
It was some special love (my Karma), but we didn't stay together. In my case were circumstances the reason, not to stay together. After looking our Synastry, I have seen his Uranus square my Moon. I didn't see that my Saturn squares his Moon. I have seen that, after reading the stories of those women. This man was really my husband in Past life (Regression). As I came in contact with him second time, he told me, how he felt then. Here, we both have suffered.

Second example:
I met one man, where wasn't love at the first sight (in my case only this love exists). I was his patient for 20 days. During therapy we were talking a lot (our Mercury's in good aspect). He was charming man (Ascendant Scorpio) but I didn't think about him, as a man. Later, when all was over, I fell in love with him (a bit strange, even for me). We were in contact per phone, but we didn't see each other, again. I have suffered a lot because of him (and I had no idea, why). Looking at our Synastry there were his Sun, Mars and Saturn in exact square with my Venus.
As he is in Health magazine, writing about Acupuncture, I am asking myself today, how come that happened to me, as he is not my type of man, at all?

Bobbie

posted May 06, 2011 08:58 PM            

I suppose I tend to take the view that it would be rather silly to turn our backs on people and relationships based on astrology.
I have heard of people with bad synastry who have remained married for decades, and people with very good synastry who separated after short periods of time.
I also was of the belief that although challenging, squares can be overcome if both parties are mature enough to face and deal with the issues they bring up ?

There are a few really bad squares, but also some very positive aspects there.

I am fully aware of the issues we are hitting, but I would not quit after 8 weeks on the basis we have poor synastry. However, if things became more negative than positive, and it was clear that one, other or both were unwilling or unable to adapt and overcome the obstacles, that is when I would admit defeat and walk away.

I have researched the squares and can certainly see the effects on us, but then again, I can also see both of us have already adapted to a degree to these energies. Fortunately, he has looked into astrology as well, and might be receptive to listening to this information and what it means at some point when we are both relaxed. He is also very aware he can be boring, over critical and difficult to be with, not that he seems to have made much headway yet in adapting it a bit around me, lol. But self awareness is always a good thing.

Anyway, thankyou those who responded and advised. I am certainly bearing it all in mind, and although I would be very disappoiinted and saddened if, after such an intense draw between us and such an unlikely story, I had to walk away, I would not remain if it became unhealthy for one or both of us.

At the moment, we are beneficial to one another in many ways, in spite of the difficulties, and have had some wonderful times and a lot of laughter and conversation. He has admitted that he is changing and that he is now more careful to not criticise everything on his job course, and I am learning to find my esteem from within myself, and to not be so badly affected by what others say or think about me. And yes, both of those changes are coming from those nasty squares, lol, and it is not comfortable for either of us, from what I can see. But hey hum.

posted May 07, 2011 05:49 AM            

Can you post your composite?

Bobbie I shared a Moon trine Saturn with my ex...would that be included?

posted May 07, 2011 07:58 PM            

Planets 1 Longitude 1
Sun 14 Tau 56' 29"
Moon 16 Pis 02' 44"
Mercury 02 Gem 44' 39"
Venus 25 Gem 44' 05"
Mars 18 Pis 28' 18"
Jupiter 11 Ari 23' 46"
Saturn 14 Can 22' 05"
Uranus 29 Lib 49' 14" R
Neptune 11 Sag 06' 32" R
Pluto 06 Lib 56' 15" R
Chiron 25 Ari 14' 11"
Lilith 10 Pis 02' 32"
Node 01 Sag 02' 14" R
P. of Fortune 18 Ari 08' 33"
Vertex 15 Vir 49' 43"

Name Longitude 1
Ascendant 19 Aqu 14' 49"
House 2 22 Ari 18' 29"
House 3 24 Tau 10' 47"
House 4 14 Gem 06' 40"
House 5 00 Can 51' 49"
House 6 19 Can 16' 59"
House 7 19 Leo 14' 49"
House 8 22 Lib 18' 29"
House 9 24 Sco 10' 47"
MC (Midheaven) 14 Sag 06' 40"
House 11 00 Cap 51' 49"
House 12 19 Cap 16' 59"

Planets 2 Longitude 2
Sun 08 Vir 09' 21"
Moon 09 Ari 53' 06"
Mercury 24 Leo 46' 53" R
Venus 19 Leo 37' 37"
Mars 22 Tau 57' 29"
Jupiter 28 Lib 53' 36"
Saturn 19 Sag 08' 55"
Uranus 13 Leo 37' 32"
Neptune 02 Sco 37' 38"
Pluto 02 Vir 14' 15"
Chiron 19 Aqu 12' 07" R
Lilith 21 Ari 27' 47"
Node 22 Lib 56' 34" R
P. of Fortune 05 Cap 58' 51"
Vertex 25 Sag 51' 15"

Longitude 2
Ascendant 07 Leo 42' 36"
House 2 24 Leo 58' 03"
House 3 17 Vir 08' 47"
House 4 17 Lib 27' 02"
House 5 26 Sco 57' 59"
House 6 06 Cap 44' 43"
House 7 07 Aqu 42' 36"
House 8 24 Aqu 58' 03"
House 9 17 Pis 08' 47"
MC(Midheaven) 17 Ari 27' 02"
House 11 26 Tau 57' 59"
House 12 06 Can 44' 43"

And the Composite:

Composite Comp. Long.
Sun 11 Can 32' 56"
Moon 27 Pis 57' 54"
Mercury 13 Can 45' 47"
Venus 22 Can 40' 52"
Mars 20 Ari 42' 54"
Jupiter 20 Cap 08' 42"
Saturn 01 Lib 45' 29"
Uranus 21 Vir 43' 23"
Neptune 21 Sco 52' 05"
Pluto 19 Vir 35' 13"
Chiron 22 Pis 13' 08"
Lilith 00 Ari 45' 11"
Node 11 Sco 59' 24"
P. of Fortune 27 Aqu 03' 43"
Vertex 05 Sco 50' 28"

Comp. Long.
Ascendant 13 Tau 28' 41"
House 2 23 Gem 38' 17"
House 3 20 Can 39' 47"
House 4 15 Leo 46' 52"
House 5 13 Vir 54' 54"
House 6 13 Lib 00' 50"
House 7 13 Sco 28' 41"
House 8 23 Sag 38' 17"
House 9 20 Cap 39' 47"
MC(Midheaven) 15 Aqu 46' 52"
House 11 13 Pis 54' 54"
House 12 13 Ari 00' 50"

The Aspects :

Planet Aspect Planet Orb

Sun Conjunction Mercury 2.21
Sun Trine Node 0.44
Sun Sextile Ascendant 1.93
Sun Quincunx Midheaven 4.23

Moon Trine Venus 5.28
Moon Sextile Jupiter 7.82
Moon Opposition Saturn 3.79
Moon Opposition Uranus 6.24
Moon Trine Neptune 6.10
Moon Conjunction Chiron 5.75
Moon Conjunction Lilith 2.79

Mercury Conjunction Sun 2.21
Mercury Sextile Pluto 5.82
Mercury Trine Node 1.77
Mercury Sextile Ascendant 0.29
Mercury Quincunx Midheaven 2.02

Venus Trine Moon 5.28
Venus Square Mars 1.97
Venus Opposition Jupiter 2.54
Venus Sextile Uranus 0.96
Venus Trine Neptune 0.81
Venus Sextile Pluto 3.09
Venus Trine Chiron 0.46

Mars Square Venus 1.97
Mars Square Jupiter 0.57
Mars Quincunx Uranus 1.01
Mars Quincunx Neptune 1.15
Mars Quincunx Pluto 1.13
Mars Sextile Midheaven 4.93

Jupiter Sextile Moon 7.82
Jupiter Opposition Venus 2.54
Jupiter Square Mars 0.57
Jupiter Trine Uranus 1.58
Jupiter Sextile Neptune 1.72
Jupiter Trine Pluto 0.56
Jupiter Sextile Chiron 2.07

Saturn Opposition Moon 3.79
Saturn Opposition Lilith 1.01

Uranus Opposition Moon 6.24
Uranus Sextile Venus 0.96
Uranus Quincunx Mars 1.01
Uranus Trine Jupiter 1.58
Uranus Sextile Neptune 0.14
Uranus Conjunction Pluto 2.14
Uranus Opposition Chiron 0.50
Uranus Quincunx Midheaven 5.94

Neptune Trine Moon 6.10
Neptune Trine Venus 0.81
Neptune Quincunx Mars 1.15
Neptune Sextile Jupiter 1.72
Neptune Sextile Uranus 0.14
Neptune Sextile Pluto 2.28
Neptune Trine Chiron 0.35

Pluto Sextile Mercury 5.82
Pluto Sextile Venus 3.09
Pluto Quincunx Mars 1.13
Pluto Trine Jupiter 0.56
Pluto Conjunction Uranus 2.14
Pluto Sextile Neptune 2.28
Pluto Opposition Chiron 2.63
Pluto Quincunx Midheaven 3.81

Chiron Conjunction Moon 5.75
Chiron Trine Venus 0.46
Chiron Sextile Jupiter 2.07
Chiron Opposition Uranus 0.50
Chiron Trine Neptune 0.35
Chiron Opposition Pluto 2.63

Lilith Conjunction Moon 2.79
Lilith Opposition Saturn 1.01

Node Trine Sun 0.44
Node Trine Mercury 1.77
Node Opposition Ascendant 1.49



Ascendant Sextile Sun 1.93
Ascendant Sextile Mercury 0.29
Ascendant Opposition Node 1.49
Ascendant Square Midheaven 2.30

Midheaven Quincunx Sun 4.23
Midheaven Quincunx Mercury 2.02
Midheaven Sextile Mars 4.93
Midheaven Quincunx Uranus 5.94
Midheaven Quincunx Pluto 3.81
Midheaven Square Ascendant 2.30

posted May 08, 2011 05:00 AM            

Saturn trine Moon is a very good aspect. Here is great difference between square and trine.
I have got once analysis about my Karma and there is explanation about my Moon.

You have probably DESC in double sign, or your Uranus (and Venus) is not well aspected. There are more reasons that two people don't stay together.

Bobbie

posted May 08, 2011 05:14 AM            

It happens to me that I find something very interesting, don't save it and then I have "headache". What is bad: to search again for the same link, I can't find it.

About your Synastry and Composite: if you don't know exact birth data's, you better leave it. For Synastry (as also Solar Return), must be exact data's.

If you are sure he loves you, in that case, don't think too much. Time will show, were you right or not?
Remember: even, if you go apart, you will know that you have tried all to be with him.

There are great loves they last short time;
There are two people (without great love) they stay together, forever.

C’est la vie!

Good luck, Bobbie

posted May 08, 2011 07:29 AM            

Also in comparing composite the composite to the synastry....
his
Venus
Mars
Saturn
Uranus
n node
are all activated...He says the relationship between you as long-lasting...He is sexually satisfied but he likes perhaps provoke answers, feelings, change and excitement.

Your
Sun
Saturn
Pluto
N node are being activated...

Do not worry this relationship is just as important to him as it is to you!

posted May 08, 2011 02:57 PM            

quote:

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Originally posted by Quinnie:
Absolutely Bobbie!

Also in comparing composite the composite to the synastry....
his
Venus
Mars
Saturn
Uranus
n node
are all activated...He says the relationship between you as long-lasting...He is sexually satisfied but he likes perhaps provoke answers, feelings, change and excitement.

Your
Sun
Saturn
Pluto
N node are being activated...

Do not worry this relationship is just as important to him as it is to you!

Any advice that I could give is to be assertive, work on communication...Do not go silent, tell him your feelings...he can handle it...which is why I think he provokes you to.

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Is this in regards to myself or to Bonadea...getting a lil confusing here, lol.

posted May 08, 2011 04:49 PM            

quote:

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Originally posted by Quinnie:
Graelwyn

Yes the synastry/Composite aspects are for you

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Ah ok, thankyou I wish I had the patience to cultivate skills in comparing and reading charts. I find it very interesting.