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Topic: Is this Aqua-Venus, just humiliating, simply a 'man'.. or what?
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mir
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posted May 03, 2011 01:42 PM
  
(thanks to 'love being aries' I'm aware now my post is REALLY too long .. ) I'm sorry!
I will trim it if I have the energy..
Although I know what I feel with blasts, I don't know exactly what to think about it, so I would be very happy if you give your honest opinion about what I'm going to tell now...
This isn't my mother language so if something isn't clear enough please ask. We are together for 15 months now, me & pisces.
His best Aqua-friend invited him this weekend (a birthday-present) for a few hours wind surfing on sunday. I wasn't suppose to see him this weekend but when I heard his friend was going to pick him up on saturday around 10 pm and that he would spend the night with him I was like.. ok, I don't want to miss you that long, maybe I can go with you? Well, he wasn't that sure because he had no money, his friend would pay everything and.. there isn't place for three in his friends car so his reply wasn't very clear. He was also a bit angry with me (which he told me later) as I didn't want to see him this weekend because he had no money while he was looking forward to see me. I also didn't want to lend him some... So he was glad his friend called and invited him. Ok, so I decided to go to his friends house (an hour drive) on my own because I HAD to see him, maybe I also felt a little guilty.. I didn't say anything so it had to be a surprise. He seemed glad when I arrived and he said he'd already expected me to come. Ok, it was nice, fun... he was a little drunk, blabla...
Then his friend went outside with his dog for a while.. so we were alone.
I felt pisces was pretty horny and in a playful way he told me that I was his lust-object, and I answered playfully back; no I'm not.. how can you say I'm an object? etc. Ok, when his friend was back.,
Nice, fun, relaxed,
and suddenly pisces asked me (in front of his friend); Are you horny?
(his friend looking at the laptop screen this whole way)
Leo-me (in shock!): what? are you asking ME to tell you in public if I'm horny?
Pisces: yes..
Leo-me (in shock!): ok, so you want me to tell the both of you if I'm horny or not..
Pisces (a little bit smiling): yes... Ok, inside I became more & more angry (Scorp-Moon square Aqua-Mars?) .. and I decided to play a role, to sublimate my anger AND .. to see if he wanted to share *ME* with his best friend?? Did he really.... ? Did I see ghosts or what? Damn! Also no limits when it comes to *us*? I had to find out! So, driven by *anger* (Scorp-Moon square Mars?) I went on to play my role.. I rose up (his friend still in his laptop-screen), stood there, looked Pisces in the eyes and said; okay.. so then you will get it and I pulled down my shirt to uncover my breasts (with one eye I could see his friend still staring at the lap-screen)
Pisces: don't do it.. don't..
Leo-me: well, that's what you want, isn't it?
Pisces: don't.
After a few naked seconds I pulled my shirt back up and went so sit next to him.
Pisces: you want to *do* (make 'love') it with him (his friend)?
Me (in my role): yes I want it..
Pisces: Really?
Me: yes really..
Pisces: okay so you want it..
Me: yes.
Pisces: okay, P. (my friend) hasn't had sex in more than ten years (which I ofcourse already knew as I know this guy from *our* start) and if you want it also.. than ok, but.. it must be a TRIO, *I* want to be a part of it and can't allow only the two of you being together.
Me (in role): Hm.. I think I want to do it alone with him, without you.
He (smile): No.. a trio and it's pretty exciting to me if you're holding two ***** (!!).
Me thinking; aaauww.. jeez.. he really means it but.. I want to be more sure of it!
Me: if it happens once I'm almost sure it'll happen twenty times after that.
Pisces: no, just once and *I* want to be part of it.
Me: but how can you allow this, your g-f sleeping with your best friend or with anyone?
Pisces: I don't allow you to sleep with others and I definitely don't want to lose you and well, it's just once and as I care a lot for you and I care a lot for him (his best friend for many many years, standing 'dry' sexually for soo long) ... and because you want it so badly ... you can/may have it.. (including himself ofcourse)
I asked his friend (still staring lap..); what do you think about all this? About what he's saying? Do you 'believe' him?
Friend: well yes, I do believe him but I don't believe you, I know how 'women' can be..
I know Pisces totally believed me, but I think his friend didn't so much...
Suddenly his friend went upstairs (I didn't know how much he was playing a *role*) and I went after him (in my role, still trying to find the truth and nothing but the truth! still couldn't believe pisces would allow this all) while suggesting I wanted to **** with him or something.. Pisces following us..
His friend jumped on his bed and I jumped after him, lying against him/half on..
I tried to push Pisces away when he caressed my naked back under my shirt .. and said: go! I want to be alone with him, GOgo! GogoGogoGo!!
He went away .. downstairs.
I said to his friend that I was playing a game and that he had to play with me.. and when he heard that he also went downstairs saying to Pisces: She doesn't want it. Sitting on the sofa near pisces then.
Pisces to friend: why don't you want to satisfy my girl?
(my anger almost culminated... he just went on!! .. a matter of seconds before I...)
a few words in the same context .. and BAM!!!! I stood up, walked to another part of the room and yelled, I'M GOING HOME RIGHT NOW!!!!
Pisces came to me..
ME: *^&*()*( you want to SHARE *ME*!!! YOU WANT TO SHARE *ME* ???!!!!!!!!!!! etc.
I hit him in the face really hard while yelling .. he was trying to defend himself but I hit again & again.. four times I must have hit the mark I guess. He didn't say very much after that.. he seemed angry and said that I blamed him but that I had nothing to blame him for as *I* was the one who was playing false..
I said that I played my role just to see if he wanted to *share* me.. yes indeed!
I tried go get more words out of him.. he said again that he cared for me AND him.. we both wanted *IT*.. so?
My conclusion; he was able to SHARE me! I wanted to tell more but well, this was the heart of the matter.. and it's taking too much time & energy to write more at the moment..
Pisces has Aqua-Mercury/Venus TRINE Gem-Mars.
And ofcourse that terrible Sun/Neptune(5th) square.
His friend is an Aqua with Sag-Moon/Aries-Venus and an Aqua-Mars/Mercury conjunction.
(no water in chart). I have an Aqua-Mars/NN square Scorp-Moon/ Cancer-Venus (Sun-Leo). synastry;
-Pisces' VENUS
-Friends SUN
-My MARS
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CONJUNCT!
PFFFFT I'm tired.. really tired..
Okay, say whatever you think.. astrologically speaking or NOT.. every kind of reply is welcome!
I'm open to receive anything. I don't even know if I had a question.. ps; the three of us planned a holiday (a few months ago) together in sept this year. IP: Logged |
love being Aries
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posted May 03, 2011 01:55 PM
i just want to say that its a REALLY long post, i read all of it and i don't think anyone else will because this could have been easily summarized in two lines. and do you want an opinion or what? leave astrology aside, if he can share you with someone he is not even worth it. You are a leo and you don't like sharing or being shared right? today he will do it with his friend, tomorrow he would want it with one of your friends, then what? can you bother with the mess?
if you want an opinion, cut the story short and people might respond then------------------
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mir
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posted May 03, 2011 02:18 PM
Anyway.. thanks for taking the time to read & answer!
For now I'm taking the risk that nobody will read..  IP: Logged |
RMChex
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posted May 03, 2011 02:47 PM
Okay I've just read it all, I don't honestly think that you can deduce much about his astrology from this. To my knowledge there's no one sign that is more likely to indulge in a menage-a-trois than another.What bothers me most, is the friend. If he was feeling crap about himself to start with because he hasn't been sexually active for a while, then goodness knows how he must feel now... Wouldn't it have been simpler to just ask your Pisces straight out how he felt? The fact that he said he loved you, didn't want to lose you and wouldn't let you sleep with his friend without him shows me that however twisted he is, he does actually care about you in some way. In his mind, he was willing to go to some great lengths to ensure his friend's and your happiness. At the end of the day, does it matter what anyone here feels about this? What do YOU think about it? ------------------
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JohnFKennedy
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posted May 03, 2011 04:26 PM
I mean, I can't help but admire your audacity in a way in this situation but I really think you were highly dramatic about the situation at a certain point. Yeah, he was definitely extremely douchey in trying to get you to admit you were horny in front of his friend, but I honestly think you took it too far when you should have pulled him aside and had a stern talk with him over how hurt and embarrassed you are, because acting like that was just so counter-productive to communicating and having a healthy relationship with your partner, if you want my opinion on that. As Chex said, there's not much you can deduce astrologically on this. I know plenty of staunchly monogamist Venus in Aquarius people - it absolutely sounds like he was being a typical, run of the mill dude in this regard. He did disrespect you and if I were you I would question why both of you were not on the same page of sexual communication to the point where you were both blatantly playing games with each other and dragged another person into it who was completely neutral on the matter. "ME: *^&*()*( you want to SHARE *ME*!!! YOU WANT TO SHARE *ME* ???!!!!!!!!!!! etc.
I hit him in the face really hard while yelling .. he was trying to defend himself but I hit again & again.. four times I must have hit the mark I guess." Like, seriously.. what was the point of that? You lied to him and said you wanted to have a threesome. He asked you multiple times if you were sure and you said YES. In a way I get where you were coming from as I guess I would have done the same thing if I was sixteen at the most, but yeah, you made a verbal contract at that point and he was following through on it. Some guys are just into that - it doesn't mean they value you any less. Anyway, it's pointless for me to go on as I don't know this man and you're in a relationship with him and you should be the one probing his mind instead of acting out in a play and further complicating the situation. IP: Logged |
mir
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posted May 04, 2011 09:13 AM
Many thanks for taking the time.. !
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Wouldn't it have been simpler to just ask your Pisces straight out how he felt?
I think it was pretty obvious how Pisces felt.. he really seemed to like the idea of a trio if that's what you mean? And after the explosion and the awareness that I was just pretending.. *I* was the rogue.
If you mean asking how his friend felt.. hm.. if you ask me, pisces was purely driven by his own lusts while pretending he cared for our *happiness*.. it also wouldn't surprise me if he isn't as heterosexual as he would like. At the end of the day.. hm it doesn't matter I guess but if there's not one single vibe in you that can imagine to share your partner with someone else,.. really I've tried to imagine it but when I do so I seem to lose every control about myself in a way.. so the unimaginableness is what has driven me to share it here I guess. And well, if you feel that 'lust' is the one & only reason for someone to allow it .. frightening! ** quote:
it absolutely sounds like he was being a typical, run of the mill dude in this regard. He did disrespect you and if I were you I would question why both of you were not on the same page of sexual communication ......
Run of the mill, exactly! I have to admit that it's not only in this regard.. unfortunately.
So indeed, we aren't on the same page of many things and I'm aware of it but well, it's not something you have in mind every minute of the day. In a certain way he's on a page where I was 15 years ago, a mind being distracted with meaningless 'lusts' and I'm very aware that the fact that I AM with him drags me into these sort of situations... but I really had not expected this one, not at all! IP: Logged |
stillatlarge
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posted May 04, 2011 10:34 AM
There was nothing whatsoever too long about that post. The detail and nuance was needed and if people have the attention span and brains of gnats, that's their problem.
I'm Leo sun/Aqua moon, Asc/Mars/Venus in Cancer and I would have handled it the same way. Not sure about hitting him in front of a witness though here in the U.S.  I have to say, with all that Aries, Sag, Gem in there, it was to be expected. One look at the chart and it should have smacked yousquare between the eyes. But as painful as it might be now, you are still much better off for finding out when you did before you went a few thousand miles down a dead-end road. I agree about the orientation. In my experience, most guys who would do that actually are as interested in the other guy as they are you.
I hope you find something better and this is all something you will laugh about later. IP: Logged |
RMChex
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posted May 04, 2011 12:24 PM
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Originally posted by mir:
I think it was pretty obvious how Pisces felt.. he really seemed to like the idea of a trio if that's what you mean? And after the explosion and the awareness that I was just pretending.. *I* was the rogue.
What I don't get, not that its my place to say, is that - if it was obvious how Pisces felt, why there was a need to test him? ------------------
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starfox
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posted May 04, 2011 01:05 PM
Its your body and your choice what you do with it..I don't think I would share my gf's with anyone though, good/best friends or not and I am aqua-venus too. IP: Logged |
Ami Anne
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posted May 04, 2011 01:45 PM
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Originally posted by starfox:
Its your body and your choice what you do with it..I don't think I would share my gf's with anyone though, good/best friends or not and I am aqua-venus too.
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stillatlarge
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posted May 04, 2011 02:47 PM
Why would she NOT test him? Who wouldn't want to know if that was how he really felt before investing any more into a relationship? It's a given that if he is willing to do that and sees her that way that it's deal breaker. There's no point in continuing to bond or get further enmeshed with someone who fails you like that right up front. That, IMO, is why there are so many divorces today-that nobody tests the person before they're married. You just can't learn that much about a person in pleasant surroundings with small talk and that's what most dating consists of unfortunately. You need to see the person in their true colors unmasked before you make such a major decision.IP: Logged |
JohnFKennedy
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posted May 04, 2011 03:30 PM
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Originally posted by stillatlarge:
Why would she NOT test him? Who wouldn't want to know if that was how he really felt before investing any more into a relationship? It's a given that if he is willing to do that and sees her that way that it's deal breaker. There's no point in continuing to bond or get further enmeshed with someone who fails you like that right up front. That, IMO, is why there are so many divorces today-that nobody tests the person before they're married. You just can't learn that much about a person in pleasant surroundings with small talk and that's what most dating consists of unfortunately. You need to see the person in their true colors unmasked before you make such a major decision.
Dude, she blatantly lied about her intentions and then got mad when he agreed with her - had she been upfront and said, "hey, this really, really offends me" then the problem would have (hopefully) been solved and never been brought up again - she even said she knew how he felt before she did all of that. Regardless, I made my post under the impression these two have been together for a long time and are not casually dating. Mind games are not cute when you're in a long term relationship.
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posted May 04, 2011 04:29 PM
Not a long post and I agree about the comments with the brain of a gnat thing...Scorpio moon people. That's why she did it. Had to be certain and then exact revenge on him. I feel bad for the friend. He knew that she didn't really want to. I say go out with him and dump the Pisces. IP: Logged |
mir
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posted May 04, 2011 04:56 PM
I almost couldn't believe that HE was like that.. and if you almost can't believe your eyes, then you need more 'situation' to be absolutely sure of it. At least, I do.
(the same clue for the lenght of my post )
And lol yes... the revenge will be next (true).Thanks all for your time ... ! L o v e l y first post Stillatlarge. IP: Logged |
stillatlarge
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posted May 04, 2011 07:01 PM
Uh, no, Dude  , had she "been upfront" he would have crawfished and she would have been left to wonder from now on. There would have been that constant nagging doubt so she had to seize the moment when it presented itself. After 'that moment' his guard would have been up and with that Gemini he would lied as usual. She KNOWS now so his mind game was blown. IP: Logged |
Betty Boop
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posted May 04, 2011 07:14 PM
I MISS EUROPE!This could never happen with an Aussie Pisces. IP: Logged |
Betty Boop
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posted May 04, 2011 07:25 PM
On a more serious note.. quote:
a little drunk
Are you sure he was a "little" drunk? Not *very* drunk and not *high* on anything? I can't imagine a fully sober Pisces guy (and even a slightly drunk Pisces guy) saying everything he said. I don't find it unusual that he hinted at this or *tried* to have a threesome... because it's a common Neptunian fantasy. But there's a difference between fantasy and reality.
I doubt that this is a fantasy he actually wanted to *make* real... but because he was drunk maybe he didn't realise exactly what he was doing. PS. If you want to be with a possessive man - a Scorpio would be a better match!
Pisceans are not generally possessive or jealous.
I have Mars conj Neptune - and I've told my ex that it was ok for him to have sex with other women. If there is no love involved - I find the sex meaningless ( It's obviously enjoyable on a physical level, but no more meaningful than having sex with a blow up doll or a vibrator) so I don't feel jealous.
I don't down-play sex for the sake of sex either. It's all good... like having a nice lunch or something.
But it doesn't run *deep*. IP: Logged |
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posted May 04, 2011 07:27 PM
Are you in kindergarten or something? Instead of being upfront and telling the pisces how embarrased this made you feel, you went along with it and played the game, and the game played you. The only victim I see here is Mr.Aquarius who you pretty much lead on. And for the record, the Pisces-Aqua mix is not always the most staunchly monogamist, so this probably says nothing about how he feels about you. He may be perfectly in love with you, but have no problem sharing you with the whole damn neighborhood. I'm sorry if this hurts, but that could be the fact of the matter. Of course I'm not saying every Pisces with an Aqua Venus is like this, just for the disclaimer. IP: Logged |
Betty Boop
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posted May 04, 2011 07:31 PM
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He may be perfectly in love with you, but have no problem sharing you with the whole damn neighbourhood.
I agree.
There is very little emphasis on physical things (when you have strong Pisces in your chart). Now if you fell head over heels - in love - with his best friend, that *would* probably upset him.
He would still leave you both alone and wish you all the best.
He would cry about it though and distance himself ^ IP: Logged |
JohnFKennedy
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posted May 04, 2011 11:10 PM
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Originally posted by stillatlarge:
Uh, no, Dude , had she "been upfront" he would have crawfished and she would have been left to wonder from now on. There would have been that constant nagging doubt so she had to seize the moment when it presented itself. After 'that moment' his guard would have been up and with that Gemini he would lied as usual. She KNOWS now so his mind game was blown.
Seize the moment when it presented itself equals taking her top off in front of his friend and then attempting to get him to play petty mind games when she entered a bedroom with him after insisting she wanted to have a threesome? Yeah, if seizing the moment requires putting on a spectacle instead of calling out my partner on asking me if I'm horny in front of company, then I think I'll just pass and continue to hone my conversational skills instead like someone that belongs in healthy relationships and knows how to spot them out tends to. IP: Logged |
Betty Boop
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posted May 04, 2011 11:45 PM
Oh I have a question -Is Aqua guy financially well-off in comparison to Pisces guy? IP: Logged |
stillatlarge
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posted May 05, 2011 12:18 AM
What kind of douche would ask that in the first place in front of anybody or not?! He's the one that starts the game. She just beats him at it. It's completely beyond you. There's one born every minute. You'll be seeing one the next time you look in the mirror. LMAO. So you just stay on your high horse. It's a long way to the ground. IP: Logged |
JohnFKennedy
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posted May 05, 2011 12:33 AM
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Originally posted by stillatlarge:
What kind of douche would ask that in the first place in front of anybody or not?! He's the one that starts the game. She just beats him at it. It's completely beyond you. There's one born every minute. You'll be seeing one the next time you look in the mirror. LMAO. So you just stay on your high horse. It's a long way to the ground.
... That.. is my point? He is a douchebag, she should have told him he was being one, and if he continued being a douchebag she should have.. left him..? I'm definitely not the one that has information skirting past their head. Really though, I literally cannot imagine having so much damn energy where I'm just going to mess around with two peoples sexual feelings and then get mad at them for it when they decide to go along, as I'm the one the leaves with less dignity. You'd like to think that's common sense, but apparently not! Given how offended you got at my post when I wasn't even referencing you completely emphasizes my point that when you take things too vengefully you're the one that comes out looking way worse for wear at the end of a situation. IP: Logged |
Quinnie
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posted May 05, 2011 03:20 AM
I think it's the result of Pisces Sun, Venus Aquarius...
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RMChex
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posted May 05, 2011 03:45 AM
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Originally posted by JohnFKennedy:
Dude, she blatantly lied about her intentions and then got mad when he agreed with her - had she been upfront and said, "hey, this really, really offends me" then the problem would have (hopefully) been solved and never been brought up again - she even said she knew how he felt before she did all of that. Regardless, I made my post under the impression these two have been together for a long time and are not casually dating. Mind games are not cute when you're in a long term relationship.
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