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cooljen
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posted May 17, 2011 10:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for cooljen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Horary question...your thoughts are appreciated!

Will me and X date?

(I thought this was a more specific question to ask than 'will we have a relationship?' since that could probably be any kind of relationship.)

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posted May 17, 2011 11:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hmm     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
how possible is it that he has a gf, or some other girl he's chasing after, or a girl chasing after him?

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posted May 17, 2011 11:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for cooljen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
more possible than not, unfortunately

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posted May 17, 2011 11:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lioness     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I dont know hardly anything about horary.. But I really like to try..

So please take my interpretations with a grain of salt.. K..

I think its good practice...
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You are Jupiter he is Mercury.

He is the same house,but out of sign, and moving away from you..
Also Venus is in between you two, makes me think there is another women standing in the way.. Is he married??

Any chance you guys work together?? Or meet in a business way??????

The ruler of his 5th is Mars.. You dont aspect mars.

Your co ruler is moon..
Does not aspect Mercury.

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Let me ask you this...
Have you guys been flirting for a while, but nothings happened?

I think (maybe) he thinks your not interested and hes moving on..


Now on the other side

Your 5th is ruled by venus
Which is conjunct him, but again its moving away from you..

Are you having doubts about this??

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posted May 17, 2011 11:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for cooljen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm amazed you can see all of that in the horary. He is a coworker. He's not married, but I believe there's someone else.

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posted May 17, 2011 11:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lioness     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Either there is someone else.. Or he's about to meet someone..

Either way, he's pulling away from you..

Sorry

I think he thinks your not interested...

Maybe you can change that if you make it known your interested...

but you have doubts yourself.. Your not sure if you really even want to?
No???

You would want to keep everything a secret??

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posted May 17, 2011 11:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for cooljen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I just dont want to be put in a situation where I'm in a vulnerable spot.

I don't feel he is trustworthy yet. I dont get him.

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posted May 17, 2011 11:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lioness     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think he's picked up on that...
He figured you arent interested.. So he's moving on...

Do you have a composite with him?
I wanna see something..
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SO Im right?????

YIPPY YIPPY!!!

Im Learning

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posted May 17, 2011 11:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lioness     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I just noticed something else...

He's confused about you also..

IDK for sure something like he doesnt know what to make of you..

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posted May 17, 2011 11:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for cooljen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

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posted May 17, 2011 11:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for cooljen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Davidson composite

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posted May 17, 2011 11:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lioness     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Good Lord woman.. Dont do it! lol

(i dont mean that in a bad way.. lol)

I knew it... Your in the same boat as me...

Sigh...

I think its a fated meeting... but if you guys get involved, it will end fast, and then one or both of you will get obsessed..

Its very draining experience....

Trust me..

You have doubts because you just "know" something about him.. But cant put your finger on it???? You always have????

Im wondering did you keep your distance for a long period of time, and then one day you guys just started talking, and ever since, you cant stop thinking about him????????

Im asking these questions, to help me learn..
Hope u dont mind?

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posted May 18, 2011 12:01 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for cooljen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I dont know...but the fated feeling - yeah, but that could be from me seeing all the conjunctions in the synastry.

Sun - North Node
Sun - Vertex
Sun - Sun/Moon Midpoint
Venus/Mars midpoint - North Node...

We dont really talk much, its just a few sentences here and there, except for one night when we were out with a group after work. There was intense flirting there. We were sitting at a table with about 8 and we were at opposite ends. Everyone was talking but it was as if it was just us. Even one of the guys there made a joke about us getting rid of the tension that was between us. He's very flirtatious though. I guess the Mars in Gemini lends to him using his hands a lot, (like him putting his hand on my stomach).

Anyway, I certainly feel a bit drained at this moment because of the back and forth emotion.

oh and I dont mind the questions You're helping me out a lot! I'm not too skilled at reading horaries and such!

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posted May 18, 2011 12:08 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lioness     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes its very draining... Ive been dealing with my thing for 17months now.. (yikes)

Its very hard to let it go...

Do you really want to get into this with a co-worker?

Trust me I wish someone asked me that 17 years ago... But I probably wouldnt have listened any ways... lol

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posted May 18, 2011 12:13 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for cooljen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
well thats the thing...Its kind of hard to ignore anyway, at least for me it is. I can't speak for him. I feel like there is a lot of 'game playing' and testing going on between the both of us. Not that I play games...its just that, I dont know, maybe thats just the only interaction between us.

I get annoyed and then I feel like 'well I'll do the same thing right back at you (minus the constant flirting...I'm not a flirtatious person)...so it leads to a competition of sorts (for me at least) but then in the end, he's still on my mind.

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posted May 18, 2011 12:18 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lioness     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by cooljen:
well thats the thing...Its kind of hard to ignore anyway, at least for me it is. I can't speak for him. I feel like there is a lot of 'game playing' and testing going on between the both of us. Not that I play games...its just that, I dont know, maybe thats just the only interaction between us.


Oh yeah thats the moon/pluto at work...

Google it.. You will understand it better..

Yeah we do the same...

Hey I think you guys will get together after someone goes through something... IDK what.. but it will then bring you together...

Your about to go through your saturn return.
Maybe then.. If so it may be a lesson.. idk..

I was able to avoid my guy for 5 years before we got together.. But I did watch him.. I know there was something about him...

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posted May 18, 2011 12:20 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for cooljen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think he watches me...well we both probably do!

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posted May 18, 2011 12:31 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lioness     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by cooljen:
I think he watches me...well we both probably do!

I know honey... Its a mess... lol

Here is a thread I did a while back ago on moon/pluto.. Its long.. but you can skim it, if you want..
http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum24/HTML/206863.html


Let me ask you this?? Have you some how been blocked from your own feelings? You havent really discovered what its like to feel?

Or you got hurt at some point, that you have swore off having feelings... Your kinda numb..

If this is the case this moon/pluto will bring it all up front and out.. You will have to figure out, what and why your feeling things... Its very hard at times...
I was a mess... I was in an emotional spiral.. I could barely function..

Ask any one here on LL!! lol


Anyways.. thats my take on moon/pluto..

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posted May 18, 2011 12:38 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for cooljen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
well one of the reasons why I'm wary of him is that he reminds me of another guy from a couple of years ago. Actually at times I've felt like its the same situation popping up again, and I wonder why.

I certainly didnt think I wasnt over that situation. I have no feeling at all for that other guy. At the time though, it was a mess...I had intense feelings for him - it was a love/hate thing. Eventually we got together and then that was it. I was done, didnt want anything to do with him anymore.

With this guy though, even though he gives me the same feeling, I want to believe that its not the same situation (probably because of the fated feeling), because I just dont see why I would have to go through this again. I actually cried about it a couple of weeks ago, because I felt like this was some kind of messed up karma and I don't know why. Like I said, I have no feelings for that guy from a couple of years ago. I feel like that whole thing was resolved, so why now do I almost feel like this current situation is part 2?

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posted May 18, 2011 12:54 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lioness     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Idk... but I think you have blocked your feelings.. Not about guy 1 just your feelings in general... You wont "allow" yourself to feel for a guy..

If you do that you wont really mentally commit to any relationship. If if your in one.. You wont give yourself, because of fear...
This is to teach you to feel again... Your meant to feel this.. So you can dig deep inside your self and see what your missing out on.. When a real relationship does come around...
Let the feelings come and accept them for what they are.. Dont fight them...
Once you accept your feelings and figure out, what you want/need in a relationship, it gets better...

I say this, because this took me this long to figure all this out...
The emotions were so bad for me, I was having a period every 2 weeks..
It really had a deep effect on me..

As I assume its doing to you...

Dig deep and figure out what your feeling and why... The universe wants you to feel... Its time!!

Why have you blocked your emotions?
What are you afraid of?
What do you want/need/expect.. Know that and dont accept anything else... Hold out for your true happiness...

I have to go to bed now, but I can reply tomorrow..

Good Luck
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posted May 18, 2011 11:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lioness     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Did any of this make sense of fit for you?

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posted May 19, 2011 04:18 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for cooljen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Oh no, it did.

Actually I decided to change my actions towards him. I don't want the game play. Hopefully that moon/pluto energy will end up being expressed differently.

I tried talking with him today, nothing serious, but he seemed to do the same back to me. Its not much, but its a start. At least I think he doesn't think I'm not interested. So, hopefully it will continue.

What you said about this coming back to me because I need to 'feel' makes sense. After that guy that I mentioned earlier, I was involved with a guy that I really didnt have interest in. He was a friend and he later let me know how he felt. I kind of went along because I figured 'what could it hurt?' At least I knew he cared. I guess it seemed safe. I made sure he knew I wasn't interested in the same way though. After that, there was another one, similar situation, but not exactly the same. But once again, it was kind of like a matter of convenience. We were already good friends so that made it seem 'safe' I guess. Anyway, so basically I've had involvement with guys that I really didnt have 'feeling' for. I guess I've been avoiding it. So at least it makes sense to me now, why this situation would present itself. Its kind of like a 'do over'. This time make it right (hopefully). (edit: that guy was a real a--hole, I dont know anyone who thinks otherwise. Its just at that time there was so much 'tension' between us. It wasn't me who messed things up. He was a player) Anyway, So I'm trying now, at least, not to dismiss or ignore my feelings. Hopefully this won't bring a lot of bad feelings, because I don't want to go through the mess of negative emotions that that other guy brought a few years ago, again.

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posted May 19, 2011 09:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lioness     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Good Im glad it made sense... All I can suggest is do what you can do to stop the mind games... It makes everything worse.. Try to be aware when this is happening.. Sometimes its just so much instinct. I have been going through this now, for so long... I think MAYBE I finally trying to understand...
We we also playing the games with each other, but IDK it got to the point that all we did was hurt each others feelings..
He actually called me out on it.. Boy did he open my eyes to it.. I guess I went to far.. lol

Anyways...
As for the feelings.. Its time to learn about your feelings.. You can no longer block your feelings.. Its all going to come out...
Think of it this way.. Your lucky that its happening early..
I got married,and remained married for over 10 years with blocked feelings..
I promised myself no one will ever get over on me again, and I would never let anyone get that close to me.. (another guy..lol)
So I never truly gave myself... Even though I was faithfully and loyal and I committed, I never gave my heart...

When we separated, it literally didnt effect me as in a loss... I was secretly relieved.. It was so easy for me to walk away..

Then bam!!! I go and hook up with this guy!

fliping A!! hahahah

Now I can give myself again... I can let someone it... If I meet the right person, if I have "those" feelings...
I will never confuse those feelings again..

There truly is no mistaken with those feelings....

I now know what its like to feel unconditional respect, love (so to speak) I understand "how" Im suppose to feel...

How special that is!!

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posted May 20, 2011 07:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for cooljen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
thank you so much Lioness for sharing your thoughts and experience with similar situation.


Currently: I am confused and sad. Because now I'm here questioning everything. Now I feel like again, does he even care? and if he doesn't then why go through all the crap he's done previously? Am I just some ego boost to him? I have no idea. I wish I knew.

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posted May 20, 2011 08:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lioness     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by cooljen:
thank you so much Lioness for sharing your thoughts and experience with similar situation.


Currently: I am confused and sad. Because now I'm here questioning everything. Now I feel like again, does he even care? and if he doesn't then why go through all the crap he's done previously? Am I just some ego boost to him? I have no idea. I wish I knew.



LOL...

Well in the Hoary your Jupiter...Be Jupiter.. read up on it..

My suggestion is continue with your life, and just be friends and have fun.. Even at work.... If its meant to be it will be!

Ive trying to take my own advice..
I called my guy, I talked to him, I told him hey we are doing the games things, and its awful of both of us...
Lets just squash all the games and go back to really being friends...
To break the ice lets play a game.

He got scared... lol...

I told him we each have 3 dares for the other... The other person must do.. Of course in good taste, and nothing that would get either of us fired... (work dares)

He laughed and he said OK... You dare me first! lol

So I thought about it for a while and then I texted him.. I dare you to page yourself over the intercom... You have to say it loud and clear and you have to say it 2x...

HE laughed.. He said ok be out side in 2 mins...

I went out side... I hear the intercom come on, then he doesnt say anything he hangs up.. I laughed..

(lets say his name is John..not but well u know)

Then I hear the intercom come on, he says JOHN REPORT TO THE OFFICE... JOHN REPORT TO THE OFFICE!!! It was so loud and clear... I couldnt stop laughing...

Everyone then looked at him, and said WTF!! whats your problem you just paged your self!! Everyone was laughing at him..
hahahahahaha

Now its his turn to dare me... scary!! He hasnt said anything.. I bet he's thinking it all over through the weekend...

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