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Topic: Post the synastry of your worst relationship
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featherlightly
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posted May 22, 2011 09:39 AM
  
Traumatizing, abusive, painful, constant arguing, worried about killing each other in your sleep -- however you define "worst." Why was the relationship so rough? What aspects were at play?I'm curious to see how many hard Saturn or Mars aspects pop up. IP: Logged |
Saraintheski
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posted May 22, 2011 11:27 AM
Not traumatizing or abusive but he was just lame , neglectful , creepy , liar , forgot about me called me clingy , used me in the end but oh how we had "chemistry" in the begining actually he enjoyed my brain but he wasn't attracted to me I wasn't "hot" he told me this , One time I thought he was dead I saw rip josh on all his friends profiles mind you I havent heard from him for a week and he laughed when I was asking for him like wtf and he was bony as hell too the only thing we ever did was lay down and watch a movie I had a calming effect on him but it was awkward I was hurt when we broke up I felt like wtf was that how could someone be really cold like that now I look at his chart and ugh I don't know his exact birth time but just blegh..
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Saraintheski
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posted May 22, 2011 11:30 AM
oh and btw my best relationship has a hard mars saturn aspect .. who knew IP: Logged |
amowls**
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posted May 22, 2011 12:19 PM
He'd always put me down and call me "childish" for dumb things like playing Dream Phone with my friend at a party? He'd also say things like "I can never take you seriously" because I'm a generally lighthearted individual who jokes around in the right situations and isn't a f*cking downer. He'd also basically call me a sl*t because I had sex with more people than him and just generally make me feel bad about things that I shouldn't feel bad about. If we were out in public or something and a dude walked by and I glance at him or he just happened to me in my line of sight, he'd go NUTS and say "YOU WANT TO F*CK HIM, DON'T YOU. WELL WHY DON'T YOU F*CK HIM?!" He'd also flirt with other girls in front of me and was just generally disrespectful. Oh and last week, he was at my friend's birthday party and made it a point to sit me down and tell me that he never respected me and THAT'S why he treated me so poorly. Well gee wiz, glad we cleared that up, I'm so happy to know this even though it's been a year and a half since we broke up and this information is not relevant whatsoever! He just makes it a point to make me feel miserable and worthless. I can't believe I dated him for a year, I should've dumped his ass the first time he ever said mean, unnecessary sh*t to me.  I'm not 100% certain of his birth time. But notice the exact Mars/Saturn conjunction, as well as his Mars squaring my Sun. I honestly hate him because of the way he treated me. I feel disgusted thinking about him and I'm disappointed in myself because I basically only stayed with him because he was good looking. His looks were his only redeeming quality. I feel like I should've said that to him when he told me he never respected me, but I'm not HIM so I would never say something like that just to hurt somebody. I'm still so mad about that incident. IP: Logged |
woah cakes
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posted May 22, 2011 12:25 PM
hey amowls, that's weird; your ex sounds a LOT like my dad (who was kind and loving probably a fifth of the time, but he was a nasty alcoholic, so). i knew knew knew he was a pisces as i read your post. yep, everything you wrote, my dad has said and done to me and/or women in his life.re your edit: he was probably severely abused in his childhood. just a guess. IP: Logged |
Saraintheski
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posted May 22, 2011 12:28 PM
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Originally posted by woah cakes:
hey amwols, that's weird; your ex sounds a LOT like my dad (who was kind and loving probably a fifth of the time, but he was a nasty alcoholic, so). i knew knew knew he was a pisces as i read your post. yep, everything you wrote, my dad has said and done to me and/or women in his life.re your edit: he was probably severely abused in his childhood. just a guess.
I think a lot of water sign guys do that theyre so bitter towards women who love them and put up with them . IP: Logged |
BeeCalliope
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posted May 22, 2011 12:39 PM
I have to learn to post charts one of these days but I'll say that the worst aspect I ever experienced in synastry was saturn(him, cancer)squaring my hyper-afflicted aries mercury. Awful, terrible.
Throw in his already suspicious pluto in libra too. The man hates my guts! Name calling, cruel. What had been the loveliest flow of communication early on, fell into absolute ruin. Didn't help that neptune trined my mercury and asc. either, I was accused of being "fake" which was an accusation I had never had tossed at me before. My capricorn moon (ours were conjunct) is usually felt (by friends) to have a great deal of integrity but I think that these merc aspects were more apparent. He was an insecure person anyway, didn't help that our mercurys were also squared and his is in his 12th house and its ruler. Loved him to bits but in the end we became enemies. My moon conjunct his desc., his 12th house sun in my 12th house. I want to add too, that trines and sextiles can be worse than squares in my opinion. Though the energy flows without tension, this does not mean that it works FOR you. I have never had hard saturn/mars aspects in synastry. I'm very uranian/stubborn and do not like hard saturn aspects, too much saturn in my own chart and I don't want more! IP: Logged |
BeeCalliope
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posted May 22, 2011 12:48 PM
@amowlsI bet he actually sorta worships you. I have mixed feelings about Saturn, the cruelty of saturn arises from its insecurity. He was likely envious of your martial energy and mars can make saturn look so bad! It may explain why he was still bothered enough to say something to you after all of that time. My 2 cents. edit- Saturn square sun for him it appears and that makes sense to me from what you've said. Saturn can be so damning and it can ruin pisces energy. I have a question about saturn/mars conjunctions or hard aspects- do they imply sexual drought? Anybody know? IP: Logged |
woah cakes
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posted May 22, 2011 01:23 PM
i dunno many water sign guys but i do know that they can go into a tizzy pretty darn quickly and say very emotional and even insulting things, thats true. but outright persistent abuse is a different thing. it's weird too cuz my dad was like Mr. Cool and all the girls wanted him (both my mom and his ex told me this, and that they couldn't believe he chose them, with this weird swooning look in their eyes, i guess he was major hot stuff), so it's like this weird combo of ego and piscean lack of grounding (which i find is the case with most pisces i know- there is major ego but they are also sponges, etc). my dad is a cancer moon, so extra emotional. he was probably really insecure even though he was so 'hot' and projected that on you. my dad, though he'd beat his gfs on occasion, the only time he tried to hit me, and he lunged, and was a VERY strong man, was when i was 13 and three guys called me in one day. he screamed that i was a **** and tried to hit me across the face. he has some major issues with women and very much has the madonna/***** complex/split thing. it's sad cuz underneath all that has a really good heart. IP: Logged |
amowls**
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posted May 22, 2011 01:25 PM
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re your edit: he was probably severely abused in his childhood. just a guess.
I don't think he was abused... his parents divorced when he was little but kept an amicable relationship, and his dad moved to America (he's originally from Lithuania) and I think he followed him when he turned 14. His mom met an American dude and they got married and she moved to America a year or two later, and he started to live with his mom when he was 16 because his dad couldn't really take care of him as a parent. I don't think he was physically abused, maybe a little neglected by his dad? Idk as far as I know there was no abuse. quote:
I think a lot of water sign guys do that theyre so bitter towards women who love them and put up with them .
I don't think it's a water sign thing. I think it's just a guy thing, or even a human thing. I'm dating a Cancer now and he's just peachy. quote:
I bet he actually sorta worships you. I have mixed feelings about Saturn, the cruelty of saturn arises from its insecurity. He was likely envious of your martial energy and mars can make saturn look so bad! It may explain why he was still bothered enough to say something to you after all of that time. My 2 cents.
He did try to "take care" of me I guess. He was definitely affectionate and we had good times but then some days he would be just absolutely horrible. He treated me as if I were a prized possession, not as a human being with feelings. quote:
I have a question about saturn/mars conjunctions or hard aspects- do they imply sexual drought? Anybody know?
Well, I've had quite the opposite experience with the two guys who have their Saturn on my Mars. I'm usually never in the mood to have sex in relationships, but that was never an issue with Paul. And the guy that I've had the best sex ever with also has his Saturn conjunct my Mars. Although, those two things can be explained by Paul's Venus and Mars opposing and squaring my Pluto and me having Moon/Mars hard aspect DW with the other guy to balance out the "drought" maybe? IP: Logged |
woah cakes
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posted May 22, 2011 01:37 PM
amowls, we cross posted. hmm, i wonder then if it was just more along the lines of what i was saying about him being so good looking and having that split. i dunno, pisces guys i tend to GET, maybe cuz i have pisces SN, but they always seem troubled to me :/ always overboard in some area.haha, the best sex i've ever had is with my current partner who has mars opposite saturn and he's no cold fish. my saturn also conjuncts his mars. IP: Logged |
BeeCalliope
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posted May 22, 2011 01:49 PM
amowls-In the synastrys I've looked at I think it's interesting that more often than not, when a hard mars/saturn aspect shows up there is usually a counter balance like venus/mars. I wonder still if hard mars/saturn can or will become sexual inhibition in long term relationships. How long were the relationships that you mention? I have to say mars/pluto and moon/mars are absolutely awesome as far as sex goes, imho. Forget venus/mars! IP: Logged |
featherlightly
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posted May 22, 2011 03:31 PM
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Originally posted by Saraintheski:
Not traumatizing or abusive but he was just lame , neglectful , creepy , liar , forgot about me called me clingy , used me in the end but oh how we had "chemistry" in the begining actually he enjoyed my brain but he wasn't attracted to me I wasn't "hot" he told me this , One time I thought he was dead I saw rip josh on all his friends profiles mind you I havent heard from him for a week and he laughed when I was asking for him like wtf and he was bony as hell too the only thing we ever did was lay down and watch a movie I had a calming effect on him but it was awkward I was hurt when we broke up I felt like wtf was that how could someone be really cold like that now I look at his chart and ugh I don't know his exact birth time but just blegh..
http://www.astro.com/cgi/showgif.cgi ?lang=e&gif=astro_61gw_01_32_sara_a_shithead.56193.14348.gif&res=100&va=&cid=ej4fileGBA3O8-u1286242690
Oh gosh, that's terrible 
Interesting you have a moon/Saturn conjunct and moon/Saturn opposition in synastry. A lot of emotional hurt is possible with that. I'm glad you're not with him anymore! IP: Logged |
featherlightly
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posted May 22, 2011 03:36 PM
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Originally posted by amowls**:
I'm not 100% certain of his birth time. But notice the exact Mars/Saturn conjunction, as well as his Mars squaring my Sun.I honestly hate him because of the way he treated me. I feel disgusted thinking about him and I'm disappointed in myself because I basically only stayed with him because he was good looking. His looks were his only redeeming quality. I feel like I should've said that to him when he told me he never respected me, but I'm not HIM so I would never say something like that just to hurt somebody. I'm still so mad about that incident.
Incredible! I can't believe some people act that way. Wow. That's an amazingly tight Saturn/Mars conjunction. I've also noticed in relationships with north node conjunctions, especially for the north node person, the relationship has the potential to be extremely difficult and challenging. Sometimes it is lovely and the people help each other grow in positive ways, but sometimes the planet person really abuses their role in the north node person's life. IP: Logged |
Stawr
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posted May 22, 2011 05:49 PM
"209 Conjunction Mercury - VenusPositive aspect: A relationship which will be agreeable, they will like to speak to each other, have a good intellectual understanding, their tastes will be very similar, they will like to share their feelings with each other."
(I think that was part of what attracted us in the first place we had alot of the same taste in music) "152 Sextile Mercury - Mercury Positive aspect: Favorable for all types of communication."
(When I didn't live with him we would be on the phone with eachother almost 24/7. Two years ago I was younger and more naive, and thought the more a guy calls you the more into you he is...that may be so...but it could also indicate that he mentally unstable lol) "108 Conjunction Mars - Jupiter Positive aspect: The couple will be in harmony, even if they are different they complement each other perfectly and understand each other very well. They go well together."
(we did seem to understand eather, even though he is white trash and I'm a suburbanite girl...we really got to know like everything about eachother and could understand why we have a hard time with certain things) "-106 Square Mars - Saturn Negative aspect: It is impossible for such a union to happen but, if it does, it will be unbearable."
(It didn't take long for it to get to that point, if my tounge was too sharp...he would blow up! He's bi-polar and refused to take medication...and thinks he fine with out it...sometimes people are after a while, but no not him) "101 Trine Venus - Mars Positive aspect: This is a union that is particularly based on physical understanding, passionate love."
(hes the only person I've had sex with so I can't really compare) "-93 Square Jupiter - Pluto Negative aspect: A union to be avoided at all costs, it can only be destructive and dangerous."
(yep, he broke things when he got mad...he even thretend to kill himself one time, so I would come home. And acording to his sister he hasn't done that in a very long time. I'm his 2nd longest realationship. His longest relationship was when he was in highschool) "-62 Opposition Mercury - Uranus Negative aspect: There is no intellectual understanding, these two people do not understand each other. If they insist on living together, there will be disputes and insupportable tension."
(yeah...I lived with him he is uneducated but minipulative...OUR MONEY VALUES CLASHED, he wanted my money, he treated me like an atm machine...and would threten me with his temper tantrums until I forked over cash.) "-53 Opposition Mercury - Neptune Negative aspect: This relationship can only bring illusions, and therefore also disappointments will follow. These two people can never understand each other and if they insist on living together, it will be with lies and deception."
(yeah he had a job when I first got with him. and I had no idea how bad his bipolar was, now I know why people take meds for that...and he really thought he could use me, cause I'm nice most of the time, but he learned that I have a mouth on me and I would call him out in front of people) "-50 Opposition Jupiter - Neptune Negative aspect: Unlucky union."
(It's not only me, he deserves no one, cause he's mentally unstable and wants to stay that way) "49 Trine Venus - Neptune Positive aspect: Favorable union, they have the same artistic tastes in common, their life will sometimes be full of fantasy."
(yeah we where both really into ICP music...he is the one that taught me not to automaticly respect/be cool with someone just cause they have the same taste in music.) "-47 Opposition Mars - Uranus Negative aspect: It is impossible for such a union to happen but, if it does, it will only lead to violence and extreme aggression."
(Yeah they say people are on their best behavior for the first year in a half. I was only with him for 10 months and seeling him a few months after...and look at all the sh!t he was allready pulling) "40 Trine Venus - Uranus Positive aspect: Union or love will be very strong, not at all intellectual, but sensual and full of romanticism and originality."
(yeah we where pretty clingy to eacother. but I was fresh out of highschool when I met him. And he is a highschool drop out. and hes 5 years older than me) "39 Trine Jupiter - Pluto Positive aspect: A possible union. Look at the other aspects to interpret exactly."
(yeah other aspects show that it sucks, and it did lol) And I'll admit I wasn't all that mature in the relationship, cause if I was...I wouldn't even talk to him in the first place. But nothing I did compared to what he did. Or maybe I only say that cause if I called him out he would get really defensive and try to point it back at me and make me feel bad about myself. Like sometimes I felt like he was telling me that I should just kill myself.
This is why I say feel like swaring off Cancer guys with mommy issues.
(I knew another Cancer guy and his real mom did crack. And he was prision or jail for breaking into peoples cars. Is there such thing as a Cancer guy with mommy issues ending up okay? I donno...)
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lechien
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posted May 22, 2011 06:27 PM
amowls, Saturn/Mars cj!!i had this one with my worst relationship. he was a hopeless dreamer (Pisces!), who was really book-smart and good-looking, but had some stupid fantasies about himself being like a James Bond or some international detective or anarchist or whatever... i didn't care for his looks or anything and liked him for who he was, but he never got it and cheated and lied and all that, he was NOT wise, at all. this is one relationship i really regret wasting my time with. but i felt Mars/Saturn cj. very hard. it was just a futile attempt to understand where each other was coming from. IP: Logged |
Lioness
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posted May 22, 2011 06:30 PM
Here's mine.. He was abusive and controlling.. Just an awful experience.  IP: Logged |
Still_Hopeful
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posted May 22, 2011 06:31 PM
Mine is
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I am inside
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Stawr
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posted May 22, 2011 06:31 PM
wait, naw not only Cancer guys...but any guys with serious mom issues. Just like how guys look out for girls with daddy issues.IP: Logged |
lunatic
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posted May 22, 2011 08:56 PM
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Originally posted by amowls**:
He'd always put me down and call me "childish" for dumb things like playing Dream Phone with my friend at a party? He'd also say things like "I can never take you seriously" because I'm a generally lighthearted individual who jokes around in the right situations and isn't a f*cking downer. He'd also basically call me a sl*t because I had sex with more people than him and just generally make me feel bad about things that I shouldn't feel bad about. If we were out in public or something and a dude walked by and I glance at him or he just happened to me in my line of sight, he'd go NUTS and say "YOU WANT TO F*CK HIM, DON'T YOU. WELL WHY DON'T YOU F*CK HIM?!" He'd also flirt with other girls in front of me and was just generally disrespectful. Oh and last week, he was at my friend's birthday party and made it a point to sit me down and tell me that he never respected me and THAT'S why he treated me so poorly. Well gee wiz, glad we cleared that up, I'm so happy to know this even though it's been a year and a half since we broke up and this information is not relevant whatsoever! He just makes it a point to make me feel miserable and worthless. I can't believe I dated him for a year, I should've dumped his ass the first time he ever said mean, unnecessary sh*t to me. I'm not 100% certain of his birth time. But notice the exact Mars/Saturn conjunction, as well as his Mars squaring my Sun. I honestly hate him because of the way he treated me. I feel disgusted thinking about him and I'm disappointed in myself because I basically only stayed with him because he was good looking. His looks were his only redeeming quality. I feel like I should've said that to him when he told me he never respected me, but I'm not HIM so I would never say something like that just to hurt somebody. I'm still so mad about that incident.
You have a Mars Opposition Pluto, that's like; let's fight! lol
Tell me, please, the great trine is your Jupiter and Uranus with his Moon? IP: Logged |
Saraintheski
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posted May 22, 2011 11:19 PM
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Originally posted by Stawr:
wait, naw not only Cancer guys...but any guys with serious mom issues. Just like how guys look out for girls with daddy issues.
Well this guy is a cancer with sort of mommy issues he blames his mother for him not being successful and how she babied him too much truth is he's just stubborn and lazy and probably had a great mother but apparently he knows how all "women " are .. w.e that means.
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Stawr
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posted May 23, 2011 08:34 AM
okay my ex was a Gemini Sun but had Cancer Moon, Mercury, and Mars.His mom had depression, and his ADD and Bipolar and depression was too much for her to handle so he lived away in institutions for alot of his childhood.
Thats gotta be tough when your own mom would send you away. But now I see why! And when he was 16 his mom died of cancer. So I can understand finishing highschool being hard. But then I know a girl whos mom passed in her teens and she was still like Miss perfect smarty pants in school. Yeah he always pulled the baggage card so he wouldn't have to do anything. And that right there p!sses me off. One day I said to him there are people that have been through worse things, and they got their life together. (Like Oprah, hollocaust survivors, ect.)
That made him shut up for a while. lol IP: Logged |
amowls**
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posted May 23, 2011 04:31 PM
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You have a Mars Opposition Pluto, that's like; let's fight! lol
Tell me, please, the great trine is your Jupiter and Uranus with his Moon?
Well, I currently have Mars square Pluto with my boyfriend and we don't fight at all. And yeah, the grand trine is between those but my Mercury opposes his Moon. IP: Logged |
Got Gemini??
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posted June 05, 2011 01:11 PM
I'll post the chart later today. Her Saturn is on my ASC, and not too far from my Mars. Uuuuuuuuggggggghhhhhh!------------------
Gemini Sun
Libra Moon
Gemini Mercury
Cancer Venus
Virgo Mars
Virgo Asc And yes, I'm a guy! IP: Logged |
Got Gemini??
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posted June 05, 2011 03:14 PM
Synastry
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 Cafeastrology Compatibility Report with birth times
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Inter-planetary aspectsThe following aspects between planets concern the possible relationships between two charts: especially the emotional and romantic relationship, but also aspects on social, intellectual and spiritual levels. -587 Square Sun - Sun Negative aspect: A lot of energy is wasted in having to explain yourselves to each other. Misunderstandings are frequent, and they are draining. Alternate Interpretation: Certainly enough conflict to ruin a whole day, if not a whole life. If at first the relationship is charming and agreeable, it will quickly end up disharmonious and life together will become unbearable. If one of the two does not make an effort, or does not find a compromise, it leads irrevocably to a breakup. 160 Conjunction Venus - Jupiter Positive aspect: This union is likely to be completely successful. A couple that is happy to be alive, and to live together, with a pleasant family and home, total confidence in each other (and with reason), intellectual understanding, similar tastes. There is a strong desire to make each other happy. You enjoy each other's company immensely and you put each other in a happy mood. You make each other laugh and you feel very open, loose, and jovial around each other. Forgiveness and graciousness characterizes your partnership. 110 Trine Moon - Venus Positive aspect: They get on together very well, be it on the intellectual or the emotional level. They love to be together and appreciate each other's company. -110 Square Venus - Uranus Negative aspect: A meeting that could be passing and highly disappointing in the end. The attraction is strong, but there is something inconstant in this partnership. It may be that the feelings run hot and cold, or that circumstances are such that their romantic feelings for one another are interrupted often. 76 Conjunction Moon - Pluto Positive aspect: An uncontrollable great passion which might be a nuisance, as it sometimes lacks thought or control. Jealousy, possessiveness, absolute need of the other's presence 24 hours out of 24 can be issues. However, when trust is in place, they both will appreciate that their relationship is growth-oriented and far from a lifeless routine. Their feelings for each other evolve over time, and they learn from each other on an emotional level at every twist and turn. This fact is a treasure. The love they share is transforming in nature, so that they both feel renewed - almost like they are "new" people - through the relationship. 73 Trine Mars - Jupiter Positive aspect: This is an excellent aspect. They boost each other's confidence and fill each other with enthusiasm. They make plans together, and they are realistic enough to fulfill. 57 Trine Mars - Uranus Positive aspect: Favorable for union, linking originality to initiative and decision-making. -52 Opposition Sun - Neptune Negative aspect: The Sun will probably suffer in this relationship. Neptune may deceive the other, lie, will promise a fantastic future that only exists in the imagination. Neptune will not be able to live up to these dreams. 50 Trine Venus - Pluto Positive aspect: Great passionate affair, very intense and transforming. They feel that the relationship forces them to grow.
Married for almost 10 years. Divorce can't come fast enough. Horrible relationship. Just horrible. Only here for my children. ------------------
Gemini Sun
Libra Moon
Gemini Mercury
Cancer Venus
Virgo Mars
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