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BeholdAstarte
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posted May 29, 2011 10:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for BeholdAstarte     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
hey ya'll. ive read several times that taurus rising is a rather moody rising. and when to the point can even have a more explosive temper and rage than the sun sign taurus. i find this rather intriguing becuase venus signs are always known for being rather placid and easy going.

venus is correlated with the emotions as well as the moon, so its influence on taurus and libra gives a much higher state of emotion than whats usually led on to be. ive noticed a lot of libra's, particularly the first decan libras, to be extremely sensitive and particularly moody as well. but libra is always mentioned to be an air sign being more mental and "balanced" emotions which is probably just said from the basics instead of a more observational view.

maybe since venus is such a peace loving planet that expressing such tender emotions and the darker side of emotions will knock its equilibrium off, which venus tries so hard to keep in check. being a planet of beauty and aesthetic tastes its emotional level would be high.

another thing i find interesting is that in some older studies its considered a water planet, but taurus and libra are earth and air and not really mentioned of their emotions. the first decan of libra, before the newer decan rulers was by the moon as well.. i think that the elements are taken too literally in discription and sometimes the observational part of astrology is lacking somewhat. like for example when reading on the houses its always the same basic interpretations. like the 6th house is always "health, service, work" but its lacking in its other effects too. im not saying that the basics arent valid becuase they totally are, but i think that observing and adding in own experieences is crucial too, like the 6th house also is seen as the house of alchemy, intense introspection of perfection that the self is constantly transforming. its also the house of hobbies and being good with crafts with the hands. i always love reading and seeing the more detailed researches of astrology that other people have discovered

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cappy1277
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posted May 29, 2011 11:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for cappy1277     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
taurus is a very sensitive sign so while they may be a slow burner, the emotions are intense. I have a taurus rising, I can definitely relate to what you were saying. I am moody, but I always attributed that to the moon in the 1st house too. My friend is an aries with a taurus & boy is she moody! I have an explosive temper which I have kept in check since I have become older. Its hard sometimes because when I feel something, i feel it passionately, whether its anger or love.

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posted May 29, 2011 11:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for cappy1277     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Meant to say with taurus moon

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BeholdAstarte
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posted May 30, 2011 02:35 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for BeholdAstarte     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
i have a taurus rising too i feel ya. im also a libra sun conjunct my mars/merc. my venus is in scorpio conjunct pluto.

my temper is sepressive in ways but once im angry, its relentless. you know i was reading that since aries is in the 12th house with taurus rising that the ego that aries is associated with is hidden in the 12th house making taurus rising a lot more secretive and unreveiling than whats presented also making the feelings very strong but hidden. i feel like i can relate to that a lot. i am very sensitive, sometimes too much so.

my uncle is a taurus and he reacts pretty passionately to things, almost a really resentful and grudging way about his feels too. its almost like the memory still has the same feelings from when it was experieces.

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posted May 30, 2011 02:42 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for blugrey     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I don't feel like my Taurus Rising is moody - in fact I feel like it stabilizes my moods - but if you push a Taurus Rising too far, we can be explosive in anger. But this requires a lot of effort into making us mad. haha

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posted May 30, 2011 02:54 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for BeholdAstarte     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
interesting. whats your venus sign and house placement?

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posted May 30, 2011 09:21 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I always thought like Blugray that Taurus was stable in moods as well as in general.

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posted May 30, 2011 09:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Coffee     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Taurus rising always has CANCER on the 3rd. With your brain function ruled by the third, this can add moodyness to your replies.

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posted May 30, 2011 03:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for BeholdAstarte     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
maybe it looks stable on the surface but theres deffinately deep set feelings. every taurus i know ( and i also work at a preschool) is a bit moody at times or has a really strong reaction to whatever moves them. and a lot of libras that i know have a very placid appearance, but have some complex feelings not shown

ive read cancer on the 3rd cusp before and i relate to it a lot. i remember the mood, feelings, movements, everything of a memory and ill feel how i felt when i experienced it.

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posted May 30, 2011 10:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for blugrey     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by BeholdAstarte:
interesting. whats your venus sign and house placement?

I'm a Gemini Venus 2nd house

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posted May 30, 2011 10:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for blugrey     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Coffee:
Taurus rising always has CANCER on the 3rd. With your brain function ruled by the third, this can add moodyness to your replies.

Well... not if you have intercepted houses.

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posted May 30, 2011 10:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for blugrey     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think the reason Taurus Risings can seem moody is simply because we need our surroundings to be comfortable. We are hard workers and this can sometimes wear us out. Or I guess Taurus Risings can be moody - but since I have so much Gemini + Cancer I feel those give me my moodiness more than the Taurus Rising. Taurus is a fixed sign - so it's moods are not going to swing back and forth like lightening like a Mutable or Cardinal sign. If a Taurus is in a Good mood - it will take a while to bring them down. The same in reverse. I know that I hate public scenes of emotion - this could be Gemini, but I feel that Taurus is very much like that too.

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posted May 30, 2011 10:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for CosmicKarma360     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Taurus rising here... Definitely when I was younger, my Aries side ruled my emotions. Quick to anger, quick to get over it,and reacting all over the map to whatever situation. Over time, the Taurus side has become more prominent, and I'm definitely much more patient, and slower to anger. However, Taurus does hold a grudge. Try as I may, I can't seem to totally shake off when someone does me wrong. I just can't trust that person again. I've tried, but I can only do it in small ways. Definitely, I feel the hurt that they've done to me like it was happening at that instant, and it's just so hard to "forgive" someone abusing you in the moment. If someone hurt me long enough and hard enough, I can feel it all again years later, like it was happening right then and there. It hurts. A lot.

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posted May 31, 2011 11:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for BeholdAstarte     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
blue/coffe-yeah my 3rd house is at 1 degree cancer.. so it might be cusped. but i have jupiter in cancer in the 3rd house. i have an intercepted aries/libra in my 12th/6th

and to u blue ha, venus in gemini i think deffinately makes a big difference with your taurus rising. my venus is in scorpio conjunct pluto close to the descendent and i think that my venus has a lot to contribute to my moodiness, or just brings out the moodiness in taurus more. since you have cancer too i would look towards that more than taurus for moodiness.

although its a fixed sign i noticed that even aquarius and leo are somewhat moody. i went out with an aquarius for 3 years and he would get so cranky at times and ive read that aquarius and uranus can get cranky. and leo's can be pretty moody at times, dramaticlly so hehe. maybe the emotions are just more stubborn. but i deffinately need to feel my surroundings and people out...

ive noticed a lot that imagined insecurities can make me pretty moody as well.

cosmic- whats your venus in?
i hold grudges too, especially if its the same wrong doings. actually.. if someone ever does me wrong, it doesnt matter how long i will remember and i might get the person back years down the road. im loyal to the core to the people i love and the most relentless enemy... more so when i was younger. im trying to forgive and forget more now.

its funny how you described your ariesness too, ive noticed the combo can be pretty smoldering at times.

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posted June 01, 2011 12:06 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for CosmicKarma360     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by BeholdAstarte:

cosmic- whats your venus in?
i hold grudges too, especially if its the same wrong doings. actually.. if someone ever does me wrong, it doesnt matter how long i will remember and i might get the person back years down the road. im loyal to the core to the people i love and the most relentless enemy... more so when i was younger. im trying to forgive and forget more now.

its funny how you described your ariesness too, ive noticed the combo can be pretty smoldering at times.


Actually, I have Venus in Gemini, and to tell you the truth, I absolutely never, ever seek revenge. I just walk away, and leave it at that. Mind you, when I cut someone off, they are gone for GOOD. Seriously gone. Like, I wouldn't even say hello if I saw them walk directly towards me down the street! I know plenty of Taurus people who go for the revenge route though, but I can't go there. For me personally, that's a serious Bad Karma violation. Plus emotions like revenge and jealousy are just so petty and small to me (must be the air sign side coming out)

I do understand what you mean by the whole getting even bit. I *do* want to do that to some people, too. Even years later, but I don't know... In my case, it doesn't work.

With you totally about the loyalty thing. So long as someone sticks by me, I'll stick by them to the ends of the earth.

Yeah, my anger can smolder. That's a good way to put it, but as I've been getting older, it's much easier to be less touchy, and sometimes even laugh it off.

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posted June 01, 2011 12:48 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for BeholdAstarte     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
yeah it must be my scorpio venus conjunct pluto.. i have a very hard time controlling my jealousy. but ive heard the combo of libra/taurus is possesive. i dont strike back unless someone does something to me, which is the hard part of letting it go. i do it a lot but sometimes its hard when theres an opportunity to get back. i dont really have any enemies or people i dont like.. except for people who have done me wrong or my family and i wouldnt mind giving them a taste of their own medicine. but i guess just telling myself they'll get their energy back that they created is satisfying enough.

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posted June 01, 2011 01:32 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Yrone     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have taurus rising, venus in cap, I am moody oh dang.

I am also vacillating between "oh my gosh I love you, I'd never want to harm you" and planning the most devious revenge to crush feelings, ripping out hearts with the look of "gee you are so pathetic /spit" on my face.

Hmmm on a second thought, I am not sure this comes from my rising sign or Venus.

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posted June 01, 2011 01:34 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lonake     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Scorpio DSC

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posted June 01, 2011 09:44 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Coffee     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by blugrey:
Well... not if you have intercepted houses.


You never have interceptions if you use the correct house system, which WHOLE SIGN. Equal is just as good. Take it from someone who has researched this, it's the correct house system.

Well.....you're doing it wrong! HA HA HA

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posted June 01, 2011 01:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for blugrey     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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You never have interceptions if you use the correct house system, which WHOLE SIGN. Equal is just as good. Take it from someone who has researched this, it's the correct house system.

Well.....you're doing it wrong! HA HA HA


Well, you can use that method. I can use mine. Nothing "wrong" with that.

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posted June 01, 2011 01:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Coffee     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by blugrey:
Well, you can use that method. I can use mine. Nothing "wrong" with that.

I will explain how it can be wrong. Let's say you look at house rulers 1 and 6 in relation to each other to find when an athlete performs well (scores a goal)

In another house system, the Scorpio riser would have PLUTO ruling the 1st and VENUS ruling the 6th.
In equal or WHOLE SIGN, PLUTO would ruler the 1st, while MARS would rule the 6th house.

With another house system you look at PLUTO and VENUS.
With equal or WHOLE SIGN you look at PLUTO and MARS.

Both do not give the same interpretation of what you are after. It does matter which house system you use.

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posted June 01, 2011 02:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lalalinda     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have always found Taurus Sun, Moon, and Rising to be even tempered. You rarely catch them off guard because they are slow and steady.
I don't see a Taurus Moon being moody at all. This is why the Moon is exalted in Taurus, because it doesn't fluctuate.

Your Sun is conjunct Mars/Mercury?
This will make you more direct and somewhat hyper active.
Mars is firing up Mercury.

Venus conjunct Pluto for you is a good aspect because with Taurus rising, you have Scorpio on the Descendant and the conjunction between Venus/Pluto shows how these relationships play out, for you, it's on the same page.

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posted June 02, 2011 10:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for BeholdAstarte     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
ive noticed that taurus moon peoples are very even emotionally, but i was mainly talking about what ive read through reading about my taurus rising. and ive read several times that taurus rising is emotional, sensitive towards other people, and when the temper explodes its even more rageful than the sun signs. so i was considering that since taurus rising could extend to the sun.. or just to venus in general since thats its ruling planet and venus is an emotional planet, that that could be why and an underplayed factor.

maybe considering that scorpio is the descendent and i think as a whole it blends with the ascendent as well, that could be it also.

lalalalinda----ive read that sun/mars/merc conjunction can heighten the emotions as well. i could see that cause it makes sense. that conjunction is the squaring to my t-square as well.. squaring my saturn/uranus/neptune conjunction opposing jupiter/chiron conjunction. soooo theres a lota tension! id say im a pretty energetic person...or i guess "wirey"

and my venus/pluto conjunction in scorpio is conjunct my descendent. what did you mean by how it plays out or whatever? i think that conjunction plus the fact its in scorpio contributes to my moodiness a lot.. and that its in the 7th house.

theres some funny key words ive read to venus/pluto conjunction: suggests deep, intense, and inflexible emotions, a need for passionate, emotional, and sexual commitment. these people are fiercely jealous and no not take kindly to rejection. they are secretive and bottle up their feelings.

ME IN A NUTSHELL. muahahah. but really, i think that since my venus is my ruling planet and my rising, sun, mars and merc are all ruled by it and its in the 7th house conjunct my descendent that its a crucial part of me

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posted June 02, 2011 10:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for BeholdAstarte     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
coffee- why is it that if someone scores well it makes more sense to consider pluto/venus instead of pluto/mars? venus usually is associated with artistic talent so why not athletic talent with the drive of pluto..

ive worked with placidus for a while too and i can see the accuracy in it enough to not fully shun it out for another house system.. i mean its popular for a reason and so is the whole house system.

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posted June 02, 2011 10:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Coffee     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by BeholdAstarte:
coffee- why is it that if someone scores well it makes more sense to consider pluto/venus instead of pluto/mars? venus usually is associated with artistic talent so why not athletic talent with the drive of pluto..

ive worked with placidus for a while too and i can see the accuracy in it enough to not fully shun it out for another house system.. i mean its popular for a reason and so is the whole house system.


I work on a HOUSE based method of predicting, not a PLANET based one.

Mercury rules Gemini (and Virgo) and is said to be about communication. The third house is also about communication. Just so happens that Mercury rules communication, just like the 3rd house.

So, if I wanted to look how someone does at work, I would not look at Mercury, as Mercury has rulership over Virgo.
I would look at a persons 6th house ruler.
Hope I explained that well.

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